Flashback to the day Clueless declared victory

“I pledge to be a president who seeks not to divide, but to unify; who doesn't see red states and blue states, only sees the United States,”
To Trump supporters he said
"We are not enemies. We are Americans," ....I will work as hard for those who didn't vote for me — as those who did. Let this grim era of demonisation in America begin to end — here and now.

Well that was then .

Fast forward

First he demonized Trump voters calling them Mega-Maga . Well that did not work because Trump voters embraced the label.
So now he has called some 74 million Americans they edged toward "semi-fascism".

Hmm and here I thought government by unconstitutional executive fiat that even Madam Mimi ;the speaker of the House last year said was an abuse of executive authority ;was edging towards fascism.

He not only hates Trump .He hates all his voters .

Trump and the extreme MAGA Republicans have made their choice -- to go backwards full of anger, violence, hate and division, while Democrats have chosen to be a nation of unity and hope.

He did not suggest that a debate of ideas should be engaged. He did not suggest he was willing to listen to and understand the issues that led people to support Trump. In the name of unity they must be crushed , He sees that as necessary for democracy to survive.

It’s not hyperbole now you need to vote to literally save democracy.

btw ,this hatred in up and down the Dem ticket.

Here is Dem nominee for Guv in Florida Charlie Crist

"Those who support DeSantis should stay with him and vote for him and I don't want your vote."

Quid pro Joe is going to lecture us tonight on restoring the soul of the nation. It will be another opportunity for a hate fest . He will say the country must unite against those evil MAGA semi-fascists . You see ;going into the fall campaign season ,the Dems can't point to their accomplishments . Inflation ,recession and crime dominates his reign. So instead he will use the bully pulpit to demonize .

It's a brilliant strategery . All he needs to do is to incite one person to violence and he can broad brush paint all his opponents as violent insurrectionist domestic terrorists .

And unfortunately the lame brained Senator from my state already fell into his trap. Lindsey Graham said there would be riots in the streets if Trump were indicted .

Clueless was quick to jump on that mistake yesterday.

“No one expects politics to be patty cake. Hey, sometimes it gets mean as hell. But the idea you turn on a television and see senior senators and congressmen saying, ‘If such and such happens, there’ll be blood in the street.’ Where the hell are we?”

I don't recall his saying such things in the summer of 2020 when Democrats across the nation supported riots all over the nation.

His address today will be a blatant political campaign address . The GOP should demand equal time from any network that broadcasts it .

so before his address tonight Clueless went to Pa to warm up his racist act.

There's a place where I was the only white guy that worked as a lifeguard down in that area, on the East side. And you know, you could always tell where the best basketball in the state is, where the best basketball in the city is. It's where everybody shows up."

When speaking about college loans last week he said
Black and Hispanic borrowers...they don't own their homes to borrow against to be able to pay for college.

Not to be outdone ; Dem Senate candidate John Fetterman(who decided to not bother attending Cluless' event ) came up with a racist reason why voting ID should not be allowed ..because poor people and "people of color" are "less likely to have their ID at any one given time."
He thinks they are too stupid to have their id's when they vote ?

The only way the dems can be this unhinged from the truth is for the left-wing media, which is to say nearly all of the media, to choose to ignore it and even participate in it.

this is the most hateful speech i have ever heard a President make

this is the most hateful speech i have ever heard a President make
Trump was giving a speech too?!

word to clueless

there is nothing wrong with America's soul It is your polices that are screwed up

word to clueless

there is nothing wrong with America's soul It is your polices that are screwed up
And what is your plan to improve those policies?

Did you miss Biden's response to the heckler?

what I saw was a man behind a blood red backround condemn half the country

I'm sure those Marines in the backround really enjoyed being props in his hate-fest

I'm sure those Marines in the backround really enjoyed being props in his hate-fest
And how did Biden respond?

He did a campaign speech in Prime time on the American people's dime . The Repubs should demand equal time . It was the most disgusting speech I have ever heard a President deliver . Evita's basket of deplorables comment was tame in comparison .

The Repubs HAVE gotten equal time, between 2016 and 2020. You musta heerded a diffrunt speach. The one I heard was "What is a democracy?"

He talks about Republicans the way Bush talked about al Qaeda .

First he called Republicans a threat to democracy then he spewed this pablum

“empathy is the fuel of democracy-the willingness to see each other not as enemies but as fellow Americans…”

He did not. The ones he is not happy with are the MAGA Republicans.

yes about half the country

Hardly!!! Many Republicans have working brains.

the great unifier

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbncOuuXgAc9A_6?format=jpg&name=small

Like Trump pumping his arms in the air? Must be a man thing.

Clueless declared anyone who opposes his policies as enemies of the state .

The difference between Trump and Biden is that Trump had a working, efficient economy unlike what we have now.

All it takes is one trip to the grocery store to see the difference. Prices grow higher by the day and shelves are frequently empty. And then when you put some gas in your car, you see the difference again. How anyone could vote dem is just beyond me. Trump is a loud-mouthed bore, but at least he was an efficient loud-mouthed bore. People who vote dem want more unborn babies killed, foolish energy policies, and a racial fairyland.

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ngDgt0FdyiM/maxresdefault.jpg

The Great Unifier? Biden's insults of MAGA voters is curious. Is there something wrong with making America great again? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall Trump insulting segments of the American voting public. Anyone remember any specific instance of him doing so?

Biden's motto should be "MAMA". Make America Mediocre Again.

Always good to be consistent.


President Biden on Friday said he does not consider any Donald Trump supporters to be a "threat" to the U.S., though he said the failure to condemn violence for political gains was "inappropriate."

The president’s comments were in answer to a question from Fox News’ Peter Doocy who asked if Biden considered all Trump supporters to be a threat to the country less than a day after he blasted "MAGA Republicans" in a speech Thursday.



he said the failure to condemn violence for political gains was "inappropriate."Perhaps he is referring to his utter failure to condemn the BLM rioters???

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall Trump insulting segments of the American voting public. Anyone remember any specific instance of him doing so?

I'll start with this one when he was campaigning in 2016.
https://heavy.com/news/2016/09/donald-trump-mocks-disabled-reporter-serge-kovaleski-denies-mocking-reporter/

today Cluless said

'I Don't Consider Any Trump Supporter to Be a Threat'


Obviously the over the top message yesterday did not play well today .

OK, Let's see. The question was, "I don't recall Trump insulting segments of the American voting public. Anyone remember any specific instance of him doing so?" And you come up with a story about Trump and one man? Really??? Even your article would go no further than saying, "Last November, at a rally in South Carolina, Donald Trump appeared to openly mock a disabled man, a reporter for The New York Times." His beef with the reporter concerned an article the man had written, and not something political. Now I have said before that Trump is a loud-mouthed bore, just as Biden is proving to be, but I don't recall him insulting an entire segment of the American voting public as Biden did last night, and evidently neither do you.

You must work much, much harder...MUCH harder.

Of course Biden is just following in the grand tradition of HC and BO.

HC. "But what the map doesn’t show you is that I won the places that represent two-thirds of America’s gross domestic product. So I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward."

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”


BO. "And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

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OK, Let's see. The question was, "I don't recall Trump insulting segments of the American voting public. Anyone remember any specific instance of him doing so?"
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/19/upshot/trump-complete-insult-list.html

You watch that video of Trump twitching and jerking and don't think he was mocking the disabled reporter??? Shame on you!

I didn’t say he wasn’t mocking the man. I said you came up blank in answering a very plain question. No wonder you hate answering questions. You’re not good at it at all.

I didn’t say he wasn’t mocking the man. I said you came up blank in answering a very plain question. No wonder you hate answering questions. You’re not good at it at all.
Segments of the voting public? You didn't open my link. Tons of "segments"!

The first link was a complete blank about one man. The second link was to the Times which requires a paid subscription.

Still blank. Now it might be that Trump, as pres, did insult some segments of the voting public, but I don't know of them and, evidently, neither do you. We'll see. So far you're "segment" is one man.

The first link was a complete blank about one man. The second link was to the Times which requires a paid subscription.
Why didn't you say that instead of insulting me!

Still blank. Now it might be that Trump, as pres, did insult some segments of the voting public, but I don't know of them and, evidently, neither do you. We'll see. So far you're "segment" is one man.
Twitter. A VERY long list, A to Z, of people and groups he insulted on Twitter. You could use good keywords and google the loooooong list on your own.

Must be why he was kicked off.

Why didn't you say that instead of insulting me!No one insulted you. I did point out that you don't like to answer questions which is unquestionably correct.

No, I will not do your searching for you. You claim to have an answer for my question. If so, then simply describe it in your own words, speaking of specific, clear instances of Trump insulting segments of the voting populace.

No one insulted you. I did point out that you don't like to answer questions which is unquestionably correct.
That is a big fat lie and you know it! I may not give the answers YOU want -- an entirely different thing. And I have fenced with you to try to get to the sense of what you're asking.

No, I will not do your searching for you. You claim to have an answer for my question. If so, then simply describe it in your own words, speaking of specific, clear instances of Trump insulting segments of the voting populace.
I will try to c/p. I doubt this website can handle all the citations.

Try this site. Not as complete as Trump's tweets but they had even hit the news.

https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/249102-trumps-most-notable-insults/

That is a big fat lie and you know it! I may not give the answers YOU want -- an entirely different thing. And I have fenced with you to try to get to the sense of what you're asking.Oh my. I wonder if a site admin is supposed to go off on a wild tantrum like that, especially when she knows full well her little accusation is completely false?

I asked, "If so, then simply describe it in your own words, speaking of specific, clear instances of Trump insulting segments of the voting populace." You replied, "I will try to c/p. I doubt this website can handle all the citations."

Then, instead of doing what you just said you would do (c/p), you instead provide another link that I am to "try". Well, rather than waste my time on another wild goose chase, I'll wait for the c/p version you just said you would provide.

Oh my. I wonder if a site admin is supposed to go off on a wild tantrum like that, especially when she knows full well her little accusation is completely false?
Sorry to disappoint you. I am not a site admin.

I asked, "If so, then simply describe it in your own words, speaking of specific, clear instances of Trump insulting segments of the voting populace." You replied, "I will try to c/p. I doubt this website can handle all the citations."
Then, instead of doing what you just said you would do (c/p), you instead provide another link that I am to "try". Do you even realize what you are writing??? Rather than waste my time on another wild goose chase, I'll wait for the c/p version you just said you would provide.
When I went back to that NYPost site, I could no longer access anything because I dont have a subscription. (I had been allowed two free visits apparently.) Thus, I put on my librarian hat, googled with good key words, and found the Hill site that is quite interesting and offered examples. I was still searching to find more examples, but because of your um unhappiness toward me, decided to watch the season finale of "American Ninja Warrior" instead.

I went on the wild goose chase anyway. The list was Pres. Bush, Gov. Bush, Hillary Clinton, Anderson Cooper, Bill Cosby, a newspaper, a magazine, Sen. Graham, Jonah Goldberg, a Mexican drug lord (Yes, they really included that!), Arianna Huffington, and so on and so forth. Could you kindly identify the one which is a "segment of the voting population"?

Still sitting on blank. Again, you have no answer at all for a plain, clear question. See what I mean??? Either one does not exist, or you don't know how to locate it.

I have tried to block you before and always get this message. "Sorry Wondergirl is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her." Maybe you should let AMHD know you are not an admin.


Thus, I put on my librarian hat, googled with good key words, and found the Hill site that is quite interesting and offered examples.Good examples for a question not asked by anyone. You MUST try MUCH harder. I'll be glad to tell you how to c/p if needed.

To be clear, I would not be surprised to find that Trump DID insult a segment of the voting pop. I'm just saying I'm not aware of it.

To be clear, I would not be surprised to find that Trump DID insult a segment of the voting pop. I'm just saying I'm not aware of it.
Anyone who does not kiss his um backside is worth insulting.


I have tried to block you before
Okay. You want me gone? I won't interact with you any longer.

Okay. You want me gone? I won't interact with you any longer.I would have been happy if you had simply agreed to answer questions, or at least admit when, as is the case now, you have no answer. But do as you please. It's your decision.

I would have been happy if you had simply agreed to answer questions, or at least admit when, as is the case now, you have no answer. But do as you please. It's your decision.
Nope, not my decision. You want to block me but can't. So I'll take the bull by the horns.

I tried to block you recently but couldn't. I don't think I would choose to do so now even though you are enormously frustrating due to your refusal to simply answer direct questions. At any rate, it's your choice. Do with the bull's horns as you please. Just don't blame it on me. Take responsibility for your own actions.

And I thought we were agreeing more and more. Silly me!

We had been agreeing some! It's seemed to show some promise for sure. But really, let's try a simple exercise here. Did you provide a single example of Trump insulting a segment of the voting pop? If "yes", then please identify the example.

I will say that I appreciate your willingness to engage some. The other libs left the stage and threw it all in your lap. At least you are still working at it.

Trump insults a lot of people . He does not insult "groups " and more often than not he does it after he has been attacked . He's a New Yorker ;a place where the middle finger is the standard greeting .

I think Trump has more sense than to insult a significant group of voters. The closest time I can think of was when he made the poor decision to accuse Mexico of sending many rapists across the border. "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you…They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists." That could certainly have been insulting to Latino voters in the U.S. Still, it was a far cry from Biden's latest effort, and it was not a direct insult to voters in America.

yeah not all illegal border crossers are rapists and druggies .

He insulted a significant group of voters -- all women of any party and no party -- when a tape emerged from when he was a Republican candidate, that he had earlier bragged about using his fame to try and “****” women and grope them without waiting for their consent.

He insulted a significant group of voters -- all women of any party and no party -- when a tape emerged when he was a Republican candidate, that he had earlier bragged about using his fame to try and “****” women and grope them without waiting for their consent.Nah. That was directed at a few women he had been with. It was indeed a dumb comment, but not a direct insult at all women. It merely put him on the same vulgar level as Bill Clinton, and granted that is a pretty low level, but it was hardly a direct insult at women as a voting group.

But it was closer than your other efforts. I'll grant you that.

You really need material like this. These are negative remarks directly aimed at a significant voting group.


HC. "But what the map doesn’t show you is that I won the places that represent two-thirds of America’s gross domestic product. So I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward."

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”


BO. "And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

it was hardly a direct insult at women as a voting group.
He lost me and my church women friends with that remark and with his mocking of the disabled reporter. "How cruel this man is! We do not want him as our president!"

it was a juvenile locker room comment between 2 people that was captured on a hot mike . The comments jl posted were meant for public consumption by candidates .

it was a juvenile locker room comment between 2 people that was captured on a hot mike . The comments jl posted were meant for public consumption by candidates .
It showed who he is. And still is. I would not ever ever be alone with that man.

as opposed to Creepy Peda - Joe . His daughter Ashley's diary says that he showered with her when she was a child . She wrote in the diary that that was “probably not appropriate”

This is not an isolated incident . There have been multiple cases of inappropriate touching witnessed by many He caresses the faces, heads, necks, shoulders, arms, and hair of women and girls often in plain view, in front of cameras
Touching allegations have been made by former Nevada state assemblywoman Lucy Flores. His former senate staffer, Tara Reade, has claimed that he sexually assaulted her.

This is what bothers me about WG. If it's Trump, then she goes off the deep end with criticism. If it's Biden or another liberal dem, then it's crickets. Selective outrage is never a good idea.

This is what bothers me about WG. If it's Trump, then she goes off the deep end with criticism. If it's Biden or another liberal dem, then it's crickets. Selective outrage is never a good idea.
The topic of conversation was Trump. I didn't throw in my opinion of Al Franken or George H.W. or Santa Claus.

Look at your own post 12 to see how you just told a wild tale.

Look at your own post 12 to see how you just told a wild tale.
Speak English please. My Post #12: "And how did Biden respond?"

The entire thread was about Biden’s controversial speech.

So you told a wild tale.

The entire thread was about Biden’s controversial speech.

So you told a wild tale.
Not in Post #12.

Even worse, look at what you said in post 9.


Did you miss Biden's response to the heckler?

So when you try to suggest the thread, or even just your involvement in the thread, was only about Trump ("The topic of conversation was Trump."), then you are telling a wild tale. Amazing how often you forget that these posts stick around after you make them.

But already I know you will not be honest and simply admit to it. It's just not what you do. I keep hoping that one day I might see a hopeful ray of honesty from you, but so far it's not been good. Still, I keep hope alive!!

The topic of conversation (the side road) AT THAT TIME*, not the thread's topic. I was responding to tomder.

*Tom's post just before mine: "I'm sure those Marines in the backround really enjoyed being props in his hate-fest."

Me: "And how did Biden respond?"

And we were talking about Trump in another side-road conversation:


it was a juvenile locker room comment between 2 people that was captured on a hot mike . The comments jl posted were meant for public consumption by candidates .
Me: It showed who he is. And still is. I would not ever ever be alone with that man.

You mentioned Biden yourself and then tried to claim the thread was about Trump. Bad, bad.

You mentioned Biden yourself and then tried to claim the thread was about Trump. Bad, bad.
Your Post #44 is a diatribe against me. You were definitely off the Biden topic.

And your post 66 is a vain attempt at deflection.

Diatribe? Here's a "diatribe". "That is a big fat lie and you know it! I may not give the answers YOU want -- an entirely different thing. And I have fenced with you to try to get to the sense of what you're asking." It was especially disturbing considering the fact that your refusal to answer questions is practically legendary.

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btw I see scores of people wearing MAGA (Make America Great Again ) hats . I have not seen anyone wearing a Build Back Better hat . just saying .

Donald Trump and Clueless both held rallies in Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania this week. Trump packed an arena . Clueless could not fill the fold up bleachers of a high school gymnasium

I really wonder if Biden's hot rhetoric is not working to Trump's advantage. I don't think he can "out-Trump" Trump.

especially since he cut a clear dividing line between what he and the semi socialist Dems stand for and the Trump MAGA

Meanwhile maybe the Dems should concern themselves with the fact that so far with more than a day left of the holiday weekend there have been 5 dead and 33 wounded on the streets of Chi-town.

Meanwhile maybe the Dems should concern themselves with the fact that so far with more than a day left of the holiday weekend there have been 5 dead and 33 wounded on the streets of Chi-town.It's OK so long as they were not killed/wounded with an AR-15.

The Dems ,as expected , keep on expanding the ranks of who they think are radical 'Maga Republicans' . By election time half of the country will be smeared with the label

“MAGA Republican” Is a Distinction Without a Difference | The Nation (https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/maga-republican-trump/)


How's this for a window into their thinking ?

The only way to fix the opposing party in American politics is to give them such an electoral drubbing that they will have no choice but to behave differently.
Alarmingly, the country may not have the time to spare to allow that uncertain prospect to play out. Unelected right-wing judges and safely gerrymandered Republican state legislative majorities are already in place and getting increasingly comfortable with doing away with the messy inconveniences of democracy when it suits their goals. If Democrats are fortunate enough to retain their hold on one or both chambers of Congress after the upcoming midterms, the only viable strategy to preclude the right’s plans for an American politics resembling those of Viktor Orbán’s Hungary or Vladimir Putin’s Russia will be an aggressive program of limiting the powers of the federal courts (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/09/trump-judge-aileen-cannon-court-reform.html) stuffed with Trump appointees happy to rubber-stamp anything that will enable right-wing minority rule for the foreseeable future.

There are two kinds of liars. There are those who speak lies because they are convinced they are actually telling the truth. They can be called, I suppose, "deceived liars". Then there are those who lie knowingly with a purpose in mind. Think Goebbels of the Nazis. I am convinced that many in the left-wing media and many liberal dems are in the second category, so the question becomes this. What purpose do they have in mind?