Yep. The Biden admin has admitted, finally, that the border agents did not whip the immigrants. However, they are still being punished because...well, because. What a pathetic administration this has turned out to be. Thankfully, the border patrol agents have a union which has vowed to fight this idiotic garbage.


The head of Customs and Border Protection (https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/immigration/border-security) (CBP) on Friday said there was "no evidence" that Border Patrol struck Haitian migrants with their reins or used whips in Del Rio, Texas, last year, implicitly rebuking the false claim made by President Biden and other top Democrats — even as the agency recommended punishment for the agents for infractions such as "offensive" language and unnecessary force.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cbp-finds-no-evidence-border-patrol-agents-whipped-haitian-migrants

Why anyone would want to become a member of any law enforcement agency in this country is beyond me .It is an absolute no win choice. Staffing of the Border Patrol is no exception . It is at critically low levels and demonizing them by the Administration will not fix it .

I really wonder what the true agenda of the left is. They have to know that reducing the number of policemen is going to lead to some level of chaos. The ones who suffer the most will be the poor. What do they want to gain from that? Perhaps stepping into the "breach" and exerting even more authority than government has now is the plan. That would allow them to shove aside opposition and exert more power. Plausible?

Thank you, Mr. Biden. Note the amount of Fentanyl pouring across our border. Trump's wall would have prevented most of that. I wonder if our pres will accept the responsibility for the thousands of Fentanyl deaths which are resulting from his inept and pathetic mismanagement of our southern border?

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Trump had four years to build a wall along the southern border -- a wall that would be climbed over and burrowed under and traveled around. And now we need a wall at our northern border. Canada's opioid problem is moving into our country.

you do not discard the good for the exception . Most of the Canadian border is controlled . Smuggling is occurring in the tribal lands of New York, Quebec, and Ontario .

Over the Horseshoe Falls!!!

in a barrel .

In a barrel with a cute cat (like Annie did) plus a fannypack full of fentanyl.

https://www.historicmysteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Annie-1.jpg

The Akwesasne Mohawk reservation crosses the US Canada border multiple times .There are jurisdictional issues up the kazoo because not only does the tribal area cross over the border at various points ;but it is also right at the border of NY, Quebec and Ontario .The border itself is a poorly drawn line in the middle of the St Lawrence River . The border runs across unmarked and poorly marked roads ;through people's property and sometimes right through people's homes.

Crime syndicates such as the Russian and the Mafia have taken advantage of the jumble for a long time now. This is not recent news . The Mohawks are an independent minded people and recognize US and Canadian sovereignty only as much as they are forced to do so. It is fairly easy for drug runners to hire locals to move product.

Even so the amount of drugs crossing the US Canada border is spit in the ocean compared to what moves across the southern border .

In a barrel with a cute cat (like Annie did) plus a fannypack full of fentanyl. lethal doses comes in very small packages. The best place to stop it would be to stop it at the ports of departure from China ;and the ports of entry in Canada and throughout Latin America.

Trump had four years to build a wall along the southern border -- a wall that would be climbed over and burrowed under and traveled around. If we applied that same silly thinking to our homes, we would never lock a door since, after all, the locks can be picked, or the door broken down, or a chair tossed through a window, and on and on it goes. But we recognize those to be very much the exceptions, so we lock our doors and we should finish the southern wall. Trump managed to get over 450 miles in place. Then Biden came in and stopped all construction. Thank you, Mr. Biden.

Everyone knows why the dems are leaving the border wide open. They view the illegals as future dem voters.

FOUR YEARS!!! and only 450 miles!

Hey, turn that around and make those refugees and immigrants and illegals future Repub voters!

They will be after they first learn the Dem plantation aint all that

FOUR YEARS!!! and only 450 miles! A little shrill, are you not?? Well, 450 miles would 450 miles more than Biden. And he had to contend with a liberal dem Congress in the last two of those four years. Every try to build a border wall that is too tall to climb over and makes tunneling under very difficult?


Hey, turn that around and make those refugees and immigrants and illegals future Repub voters! That's exactly what repubs should do. It is possible.

Trump's wall

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.silnBlBCk03kblDYd-hwzwHaE4?pid=ImgDet&rs=1

Biden's wall.

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As it turns out, not even the Biden admin is foolish enough to completely dismiss a border wall.


But on Thursday, the Biden administration approved a plan to complete a section of the border wall near Yuma, Arizona. The plan includes filling four major gaps in the wall that continue to allow the Yuma area to be one of the busiest corridors for illegal immigration crossings.

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas authorized the new plan, which was started by the Trump administration, (https://www.foxnews.com/person/t/donald-j-trump) in an effort to "deploy modern, effective border measures" and improve "safety and security along the Southwest Border," the agency said.Note that the traffic is not going under or over the existing wall. They are pouring through the gaps in wall. A first grader can easily understand this. It's why people go through doors rather than through windows. Path of least resistance.

Biden admin quietly approves construction of U.S.-Mexico border wall near Yuma, Arizona | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-quietly-approves-construction-us-mexico-border-wall-near-yuma-arizona)

and the Mayor of DC ,Muriel Bowser ,who never found a reason to use National Guard troops to protect the city before , has requested the deployment of the Guard to protect the city against illegal aliens that are pouring univited into the city.



And the Compost is advocating for it !!!

Opinion | Bowser must take action on migrant buses coming to Washington D.C. - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/26/migrant-buses-washington-dc-bowser/)

The city council says they are "burned out " having to deal with it .

Letter to the Mayor Regarding Migrant Arrivals | Office of DC Councilmember Brianne K. Nadeau (brianneknadeau.com) (https://brianneknadeau.com/updates/press-release/letter-mayor-regarding-migrant-arrivals)

NYC Mayor Eric Adams complained dealing with illegals is a "real burden " on NYers .

Mayor Adams: Influx of Illegal Aliens a ‘Real Burden’ on New Yorkers (yahoo.com) (https://news.yahoo.com/mayor-adams-influx-illegal-aliens-010151691.html)


DUHHHH Ya THINK !!! ??

Guv Abbott of Texas is just sharing the burden that his state and Arizona have had to deal with for years .

Hey Blue state Mayors and Guvs ..... suckes being you !

Abbott's strategy is having the desired effect. It's sad that this administration's inaction is allowing these illegals to be used in this way.

Here is a classic exchange between Peter Doocy and KJP

Q One more quick one, if I could. Just off topic a little bit, what’s the difference between Texas bussing migrants to D.C. and the federal government flying migrants to, say, New York in the middle of the night and other cities?MS. JEAN-PIERRE: It’s very different because we’re not doing it as a — using migrants as a political pawn.


Press Briefing by Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, July 29, 2022 | The White House (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2022/07/29/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-july-29-2022/)

what’s the difference between Texas bussing migrants to D.C. and the federal government flying migrants to, say, New York in the middle of the night and other cities?MS. JEAN-PIERRE: It’s very different because we’re not doing it as a — using migrants as a political pawn.It makes you wonder how much longer it will be before people get tired of this kind of blatant lying. It's just stunning how stupid they seem to think we are.

Now Mayor Bettlejuice ;who runs a sanctuary city is complaining because Abbott is sending illegals her way

Chicago welcomed 75 Venezuelan immigrants last night. The city “will respond with essential services while these individuals navigate the next steps of their journey and our community partners have been working diligently to provide a safety net.”

"The migrants will 'receive health care screenings, the offer of COVID-19 vaccines and emergency housing, along with additional legal resettlement assistance,' said Emily Bittner, a spokesperson for Illinois Democratic Gov. J.B. Pritzker, who also welcomed the group." (Chicago Tribune)

so she will not object to welcoming the hundreds of thousands that border states have had to absorb since Clueless ' reign

so she will not object to welcoming the hundreds of thousands that border states have had to absorb since Clueless ' reign
More will be arriving and will be welcomed. Mayor Lightfoot said, “Folks, these are human beings — moms and dads, young children, elders — who deserve our respect and dignity. They are not cargo. They are not chattel. They are human beings just like you and me."

until like Mayor Adams in NYC ,he sees services being overwhelmed by illegal immigrants . Then she will have to choose between these illegals and the legitimate residents of the city

Mayor Lightfoot said Chicago-area governments and community groups have been preparing for weeks in case Abbott sent immigrants here. "He is manufacturing a crisis,” Lightfoot said. “If it continues, we will be ready.”

Mayor Beetlejuice can't effectively run the city now. As it is now the Magnificent Mile is a killing zone The new benchmark is that anyone can go into a store and plunder goods as long as the total is below $1000 and slash the throats of innocents in the parking lots .

Chicago police say man fatally stabbed in neck in River North near Michigan Avenue - ABC7 Chicago (https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-stabbing-michigan-avenue-mag-mile-crime/12159365/)

Then SC will be the place they'll be sent to, in a climate they're used to, with vegetation they like.

Amazing how generous and magnanimous liberal mayors can be with other people’s money. Bless their hearts. Anyone want to take a wild guess as to how many of those migrants will be bedding down at the mayor’s house??

I hear that Clueless secretly sends them here after midnight. I have heard planes flying late at night at our local yokel airport that has not service at night

Trump is looking more and more acceptable all the time.

Trump is looking more and more acceptable all the time.
Those federal inmates are licking their lips.


I hear that Clueless secretly sends them here after midnight. I have heard planes flying late at night at our local yokel airport that has not service at night
Parachutes. Quick! Learn Spanish!

Those federal inmates are licking their lips.Yep, waiting on Hunter.

DC's non-voting delegate to Congress & other Dems are requesting $50 million in humanitarian assistance to deal with migrants being bused to other cities from the border. How have the Dems aided the border towns that get invaded every day by the illegal hordes ?

And now the news from Martha's Vineyard.

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is that the emperor's new fence line ? Hundreds of people were invited to attend his 60th birthday party . He was shamed into scaling it back . But ok .... if hundreds were invited then surely he can house some of the illegals who were sent to Martha's Vinyard .. He should do it in the name of diversity . The island is way too white .


https://cdn.wionews.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/Untitled%20design%20-%202021-08-08T235938.701.jpg

Diversity, like helping illegal immigrants, is something for other people to do.

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“When we got on the plane, [DeSantis] told us they would give us jobs, a place to live, everything,” Dela Hoz said through a translator. “The whole group is pretty upset. But they did take us to a nice place.”

Rachel Self, an immigration attorney who lives on Martha’s Vineyard said the migrants were set up to fail. No advance notice was given so Martha's Vineyard could be ready and waiting.

DeSantis is a total jerk.

If DeSantis is a jerk, what are the people who have stupidly allowed our southern border to become basically wide open to illegal immigration?

If DeSantis is a jerk, what are the people who have stupidly allowed our southern border to become basically wide open to illegal immigration?
Leviticus 19:33-34 -- When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

Matthew 25:35 -- For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me.

Hebrews 13:2 -- Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

Galatians 5:14 -- For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Hundreds of thousands of illegals bum rush the border daily based on the lies of the Dem jerks . The Dems love it because it is mostly Republican states that have to foot the bill for their policies


As far as the biblical verses ;they are meaningless and especially so for people who dispute the contention that this is a 'Christian nation' . The fact is that they have no business in American policy or jurisprudence.

But since (groan) the Bible was brought up;.The Bible assumes a respect and defense of national borders .Many passages details Isreal;s borders

As far as immigration goes ;countries have the right and responsibility to determine who can enter their land and under what circumstances. In Numbers 20, the Israelites asked for permission to pass through the land of Edom. The Edomites refused so the Israelis went another way. In Genesis 12 Abraham traveled into Egypt and was seeking to become a resident there. At one of the border check points he lied about the fact that Sarah was his wife. When the Pharoah found out that Abraham had lied,t Abraham was deported and had to return to Canaan.

Hundreds of thousands of illegals bum rush the border daily
Where should they go, tomder?

Have you volunteered to take any, WG? Have you written to the gov of Texas and told him you'd take some? Have you written to the people of MV and told them of the scriptures you quoted? How about the mayors of Chicago and D.C.? Why don't they take these people into their own homes?

It's like I said earlier. It's always a good idea for someone else to do.

Where should they go??? How about staying in their own countries or trying LEGAL immigration?

Have you volunteered to take any, WG?
When we were swamped by Vietnamese after the Tet Offensive and war -- I helped house them, taught them English, tutored their kids, contributed money for their welfare, befriended them, and watched them eventually become productive U.S. citizens. If I were younger and healthy, I'd eagerly do it again for these new immigrants.

Where should they go ? They should apply to legally enter the country . When they cross the border without visas they are breaking our laws . I can sympatise with their life circumstance .I am a strong advocate for America accepting huge amounts of legal visa applicants . There are apx 66,000 new visas issued each year and I would entertain increasing that significantly .

That being said ;I have no sympathy for those who's first act in the nation they wish to reside is to break the law at the onset . Almost 5 million illegals have entered since Clueless took office . You and I ,law abiding citizens ,are paying for it against our will .

Where should they go??? How about staying in their own countries or trying LEGAL immigration?
Juan didn't wake up one morning and say to his wife Consuela, "Gosh darn! I keep hearing about delicious Italian subway sandwiches in a city called Chicago and white hots in Rochester, New York. Get the kids up and dressed, so we can start heading north after breakfast. This will be a fun trip! Think of all the sights we'll see along the way!"

When we were swamped by Vietnamese after the Tet Offensive and war -- I helped house them, taught them English, tutored their kids, contributed money for their welfare, befriended them, and watched them eventually become productive U.S. citizens. If I were younger and healthy, I'd eagerly do it again for these new immigrants.Then why haven't you? Why haven't the liberal dems in Chicago, D.C., and MV?

Talk.

Where should they go ? They should apply to legally enter the country . When they cross the border without visas they are breaking our laws .
Why aren't there points of entry all along the southern border? And housing for the migrants/refugees to stay in and food pantries/diners for them while they're being processed?


Then why haven't you?
I answered that.

Why haven't the liberal dems in Chicago, D.C., and MV?
Ask them. From what I've read and heard, they are.

I answered that.

Being old is not an excuse, is it?


Why haven't the liberal dems in Chicago, D.C., and MV?


Ask them. From what I've read and heard, they are.They have immigrants in their own homes??? You, I, and everyone else here knows that is not true.

Being old is not an excuse, is it?
Being old and unhealthy is.

They have immigrants in their own homes??? You, I, and everyone else here knows that is not true.
Cherry picking again, I see.

Cherry picking? No one believes that.

Cherry picking? No one believes that.
Which verb phrases did you leave out?

Why aren't there points of entry all along the southern border? And housing for the migrants/refugees to stay in and food pantries/diners for them while they're being processed? why should there be ? The legal process is to apply for a visa and get granted one BEFORE they make the journey .

need I remind everyone that Clueless has been secretly flying illegal immigrants to undisclosed locations in the US interior since he assumed office. But a busload of illegals to Martha's Vinyard was cause for mobilization of the National Guard ;and 'deporting ' them to a military complex on Cape Cod .

Migrants sent to Martha's Vineyard are being rehoused on a base in Cape Cod : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2022/09/16/1123521033/marthas-vineyard-migrants-sent-to-cape-cod)


Biden administration secretly flying underage migrants into New York at night: Report (yahoo.com) (https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/biden-administration-secretly-flying-underage-144100737.html)

Biden secretly flying underage migrants into NY in dead of night (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2021/10/18/biden-secretly-flying-underage-migrants-into-ny-in-dead-of-night/)


Biden Admin Stonewalls on Release of Thousands of Illegal Immigrants Into New York (freebeacon.com) (https://freebeacon.com/national-security/biden-admin-stonewalls-on-release-of-thousands-of-illegal-immigrants-into-new-york/)


So why shouldn't Martha's Vinyard with an average annual household income of $132,657 absorb some of the pain that border towns have had to deal with for decades ?

Meanwhile in Martha’s Vineyard - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5N7fuLxaTA)

Which verb phrases did you leave out?Oh please. Stop. The uncomfortable (for you) fact remains that the lady posting the scripture verses, like most liberal dems, is doing nothing to help these illegals. That's a whole plateful of cherries!

To be clear, I love those verses and realize there is a point to be made there, but nowhere did God command Israel to just open up their borders and let anyone and everyone come walking across.


So why shouldn't Martha's Vinyard with an average annual household income of $132,657 absorb some of the pain that border towns have had to deal with for decades ?That's the question of the day. It just again illustrates how liberal dems love to talk the talk but hate to walk the walk. "Someone else needs to house these people." "We need to raise taxes on other people."

Martha's Vineyard approach to illegal immigrants. "Adios! You are not welcome here. Stay in Florida and be someone else's problem." If those people were genuinely concerned about the plight of illegal immigrants, they would have rejoiced at the opportunity to accept them and integrate them into the MV society. What a great testimony that would have been! Instead, their true beliefs were expressed.


Busses arrived in Edgartown, Mass., Friday morning to ship out the 50 illegal migrants who arrived at the New England destination at Martha’s Vineyard Wednesday night courtesy of Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

Martha's Vineyard Elites Deport Illegal Immigrants After 24 Hours (thefederalist.com) (https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/16/left-wing-marthas-vineyard-elites-deport-illegal-immigrants-after-just-24-hours/)

They are going into an internment camp on Cape Cod .

Chad and CJaye: The Martha’s Vineyard Invasion Song - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t11GUt85mU)

When we were swamped by Vietnamese after the Tet Offensive and warWe were never "swamped" by Vietnamese immigrants. There were a lot of them for sure, but nothing at all to be compared with what we are experiencing now at the southern border. Not even close. And I should add that they were all LEGAL immigrants coming from a country which we had tried to help and yet failed, and their lives were absolutely in danger. That is not the case now.

I do commend you for your work in the 70's with the Vietnamese. Still, it's one thing for you to offer your own help. It's an entirely different matter for you to offer someone else's help.

LOL in total about 120,000 Vietnam refugees resettled in the US. That is less than 1 month of illegal crossings according to the latest CBP data

CBP Releases July 2022 Monthly Operational Update | U.S. Customs and Border Protection (https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-releases-july-2022-monthly-operational-update)


Resettling Vietnamese Refugees in the United States | National Geographic Society (https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/resettling-vietnamese-refugees-united-states)

Former pres Obama could take them all by himself. With all of his rich neighbors, it would have been but very little trouble. They could have given them jobs as maids and gardeners!!


Former President Barack Obama (https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/barack-obama) and several other high-profile Democrats who own homes on Martha’s Vineyard have remained silent on whether they will open up their homes to provide comfort to any illegal immigrants sent to the island by Republican governors.
Representatives for the former president did not respond to multiple requests for comment from Fox News Digital on whether he has considered opening up his sprawling 29-acre estate on Martha’s Vineyard to illegal immigrants who have been sent to the island or may be in the future.


A person's true colors will usually come shining through.

I do commend you for your work in the 70's with the Vietnamese. Still, it's one thing for you to offer your own help. It's an entirely different matter for you to offer someone else's help.
So many churches of all denominations had wiillingly, even eagerly, jumped into the effort to provide safe housing, food, education, jobs for the Vietnamese immigrants. Like the Vietnamese, the immigrants at the southern border are not welfare cases in their own countries but are solid citizens with families and meaningful jobs that will benefit our country. Of course, the world/US population, like the immigration population, is much greater than it was in the '70s, so that's part of the problem. We are too conflicted now regarding "welcoming the stranger into our midst".

They could have given them jobs as maids and gardeners!!
They had meaninful jobs in their own countries, so let's take hold of those skills and apply them in our own country!

A person's true colors will usually come shining through.
Too true....

They had meaninful jobs in their own countriesHow do you know that? Besides, when did you decide that being a maid or a gardener is not a meaningful job?


We are too conflicted now regarding "welcoming the stranger into our midst".I don't think so. I think there are many liberal dems who view these people as future dem voters, many big businesses who view them as cheap labor, and many others who believe we should have secure borders and some control over who enters our country.

How do you know that? Besides, when did you decide that being a maid or a gardener is not a meaningful job?
You, with all your knowledge and experience, would be happy being a gardener in another country if you were forced to emigrate there?

In this morning's newspaper: "And those supposedly spoiled Vineyard liberals did a lot more to help the migrants on this occasion than DeSantis did.

Instead of grandstanding, they went to work. They found temporary shelter for their unexpected guests in a local church. They gathered food and supplies. In short, they showed virtue, not just signaling, in response to the unnecessary emergency."

Viewing them as future dem voters??? How about dems having a lot more heart than repubs do!!!

we should have secure borders and some control over who enters our country.
Then, like I posted earlier, add more border checkpoints, temporary housing, food sources in order to gain control over the immigration flood.

Why not just expect people to obey our laws?

Why not just expect people to obey our laws?
That has nothing to do with the lack of border checkpoints!

Of course it does. We have x number of checkpoints. By law they must go through one. End of story.

Of course it does. We have x number of checkpoints. By law they must go through one. End of story.
We don't have ENOUGH checkpoints. More need to be established.

We don't have ENOUGH checkpoints. More need to be established.How many do we have?

Besides, why would an illegal immigrant be interested in a checkpoint? Their goal is to AVOID checkpoints.

How many do we have?
The United States Border Patrol operates 71 traffic checkpoints, including 33 permanent traffic checkpoints, near the Mexico–United States border. The stated primary purpose of these inspection stations is to deter illegal immigration and smuggling activities. (Wikipedia)

The United States’ southern border with Mexico is 1,933 miles long, stretching from the Pacific Ocean to the tip of South Texas.

Now figure out how far apart on average the checkpoints are.


Besides, why would an illegal immigrant be interested in a checkpoint? Their goal is to AVOID checkpoints.
Not all are illegal. Many are looking for a refuge from war and the resulting poverty.

So how many highways cross the border that need a checkpoint?

How will more checkpoints aid those crossing illegally, bearing in mind that we are talking well in excess of two million a year?

How will more checkpoints aid those crossing illegally, bearing in mind that we are talking well in excess of two million a year?
Who crosses illegally -- and why?

How many cross legally?

Do immigrants know where the checkpoints are?

Since you plainly have no idea how to find material on the internet, I'll supply that answer. It is around a half million, though not all come across the southern border.

How many checkpoints would it take to make you happy? How many highways cross the southern border which don't currently have a checkpoint? lf the answer iS zero, then why are you calling for more checkpoints? PLEASE DON'T DODGE THESE QUESTIONS. ANSWER THEM.


Who crosses illegallyYou want the names of two million people? Many cross for the purpose of sex-trafficking, gang transactions, or drug trafficking. Happy with that???

Since you plainly have no idea how to find material on the internet, I'll supply that answer. It is around a half million, though not all come across the southern border.
Stop with the putdowns! You are throwing out vague comments. I was hoping my questions would help you add a bit of flesh to them.

How many checkpoints would it take to make you happy? How many highways cross the southern border which don't currently have a checkpoint? lf the answer if zero, then why are you calling for more checkpoints? PLEASE DON'T DODGE THIS QUESTION. ANSWER IT.
Obviously there aren't enough. Do the immigrants have maps or have been told where the checkpoints are?

You want the names of two million people? Many cross for the purpose of sex-trafficking, gang transactions, or drug trafficking. Happy with that???
You are so wrong! Please do some honest research!

Obviously there aren't enough. Do the immigrants have maps or have been told where the checkpoints are?More question dodging, which is your usual MO. You always run away from questions you find threatening. It's why I hate trying to discuss anything with you. And to be clear, these are the questions you chose to just ignore. "How many checkpoints would it take to make you happy? How many highways cross the southern border which don't currently have a checkpoint? lf the answer if zero, then why are you calling for more checkpoints?"


You are so wrong!So now you are denying that sex-trafficking, gang transactions, or drug trafficking happen on the southern border? Really??? Surely that was not your intention, because that would betray an absolutely agonizing level of, shall we say, lack of knowledge.

Talk to someone else. Hopefully, wait until you have some idea of what you're talking about. I can't handle this evasiveness. You cannot have a discussion with someone who is afraid of answers.

You cannot have a discussion with someone who is afraid [to give] answers.
Yeah, I know that now. Thus, I won't ask you any more questions.

In short, they showed virtue, not just signaling, in response to the unnecessary emergency."

Viewing them as future dem voters??? How about dems having a lot more heart than repubs do!!!

Guess so ;I would deport their a$$ back to where they came from. That would be a better deterrence than a thousand border check points .

How about dems having a lot more heart than repubs do!!!We saw how much heart the dems in MV (think "Obama") have. We could also mention D.C. and Chicago. And then there is the disaster of San Fran where human feces and drug needles litter many areas of downtown. You call it heart. I call it hypocritical and stupid. Advocating that someone else do something is not heart. It's cowardice.

Still wonder why we would want border checkpoints in areas where there is no highway or road. Where are we to build them, alongside rattlesnake trails?

Advocating that someone else do something is not heart. It's cowardice.
Definitely! DeSantis and Abbott are beyond being cowards by sending migrants north without giving advance notice!

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What happened to all of the "bleeding heart, pinko commie libtards" in Chicago, D.C., and MV? For that matter, what has happened with you? None of you have been good "libtards" for these people. It's just the same ole effort to compel others to do what none of you are doing yourselves. The best evidence I have for that, and it is conclusive, is the fact that not a single "libtard" on Martha's Vineyard had one ounce of interest in housing or employing any of those people.

As to Abbott and DeSantis, they have been "volunteered" by people like you to take care of people they never asked for. They have sent a relative handful of them to places that claimed to be in support of them. In support, that is, until they started to arrive. Since that time, their tune has changed. So no, it's not Abbott or DeSantis, but rather the usual "holier than thou" crowd who want to come off looking heroic for basically doing nothing.

The City of Chicago and numerous immigrant-serving nonprofit organizations, such as the Resurrection Project, are coordinating with other agencies to provide migrants with immediate shelter and in-depth case management.

Mayor Lightfoot and other Chicago officials have been greeting the busloads of immigrants, connecting them with shelters and agencies that can help the refugees find homes, jobs, and resources.
Erie Neighborhood House
The nonprofit with locations in West Town, Near West Side and Little Village provides mental health care, adult education and training, legal services and other services for low-income and immigrant families.
“Erie and other community organizations have been doing this kind of work for years,” said Isaias Solis, the group’s senior director of programs. “Every time we have migrants that arrive — whether it be from Latin America, Central America, most recently Ukraine and Afghanistan — we’ve been providing a lot of support.”
Anyone interested in volunteering with or donating to Erie can go to its website (https://eriehouse.org/) or call 312-563-5800. The organization works with hundreds of volunteers every year, Solis said.
“We love that the city of Chicago is a welcoming city, a sanctuary city,” Solis said. “We’re here to help. We’re here to support. Our doors are open. And we want to make sure that we’re part of the solution.”
CommunityHealth
CommunityHealth is one of the largest volunteer-based health centers in the United States, offering free services to low-income, uninsured Chicagoans, which is primarily an immigrant population, external affairs director Laura Ciresi Starr said.
The group has been in close contact with the Mayor’s Office and other local groups to help the migrants, and many staff members and volunteers are bilingual, Starr said. Migrants are welcome whether they are only stopping in Chicago for a short period or if they plan to stay long-term, Starr said.
“We really strongly believe that everybody should have access to essential health care at no cost if they need it,” Starr said. “We want to make sure they know we are available to be a welcoming place. That we can be their doctor’s office, their yoga studio, their pharmacy — all of these things all in one place.”
CommunityHealth has three clinics: 2611 W. Chicago Ave., 5413 W. Diversey Ave. and 2759 S. Harding Ave.
Anyone interested in learning more or becoming a volunteer can find more information in English, Spanish and Polish on the CommunityHealth website (https://communityhealth.org/). CommunityHealth has a huge volunteer base that provides many of the organization’s services, with roles for medical providers, interpreters, health educators and more, Starr said.
Southwest Collective
The Southwest Collective (https://www.swcollective.org/) is a group of neighbors and activists who have organized food giveaways and other services for residents in need throughout the pandemic. The group also offers an open forum for Southwest Side residents to voice their concerns, and it launches economic, educational and recreational initiatives to bring the community together.
Board member and volunteer Adriana Vargas said the group can help the migrants through its food equity initiatives and monthly Freebies for Families events, at which parents can pick up or drop off gently used baby and children’s items.
https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/09/02/heres-how-you-can-help-migrants-arriving-in-chicago-from-texas/

The City of Chicago and numerous immigrant-serving nonprofit organizations, such as the Resurrection Project, are coordinating with other agencies to provide migrants with immediate shelter and in-depth case management.

Mayor Lightfoot and other Chicago officials have been greeting the busloads of immigrants, connecting them with shelters and agencies that can help the refugees find homes, jobs, and resources.So is that what the Good Samaritan did? He loaded the man on his horse and took him into town to connect him to an "agency" where other people's money could be used to take care of him? "Good luck, Mr. Jewish man. Other people will take care of you!"

Wow. How heroic. As to the rest of the organizations you listed, it was just a listing of those who help out in one way or another to a lot of people in need. That, of course, was not our discussion. Our discussion involved the illegal immigrants, none of whom the mayor or those other good folks took in. So you have given a perfect example of what I said above. "So no, it's not Abbott or DeSantis, but rather the usual "holier than thou" crowd who want to come off looking heroic for basically doing nothing."

Those agencies and organizations are providing food and shelter and citizenship info and job opportunities to the immigrants. We in Chicago and the suburbs are pitching in money to help fund them. That's how it works.

Eventually, the immigrants will be settling in not only Chicago but also the suburbs, where churches and various social service agencies and county health departments will be surround them with aid and opportunities. At least one busload has already been immediately taken to an upper-class suburb where they were welcomed and temporary housing set up.

the good folks at Martha's Vinyard were full of compassion and empathy for a full 24 hours before they loaded the illegals in a bus and shipped them out . It is just like their view about renewables . They are all well and good . Just NIMBY !!!!!

Celebrities Protest Proposed Wind Farm | IATP (https://www.iatp.org/news/celebrities-protest-proposed-wind-farm)

Those agencies and organizationsYep. They dump em off on those "agencies and organizations" so they can go home and feel good about their willingness to help the poor illegals. So the anti-Christian parable you quoted should have read, "A pinko, commie libtard saw him and, anxious to get on with his own life, drove him to some organization or agency and dumped him off there, telling the director that he would vote for pols who would force other people to help the agency with its expenses. He then went about the community bragging endlessly about his own humanitarian impulses."

Yep. They dump em off on those "agencies and organizations" so they can go home and feel good about their willingness to help the poor illegals.

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The people that libs have no time for, meaning hard-working, honest Americans.


EAGLE PASS, Texas – A business owner near the U.S. southern border said she was forced to sell her family honky-tonk after the venue was broken into on five separate occasions since February.
"I worked alongside my father for 19 years," said Selena Buentello Price, the former second-generation owner of The Wagon Wheel, a local barbeque joint. "One break-in in 25 years."
"From February to now, I've had five," Price said. "Not only has my business been broken into and ransacked—it's just the insecurity now, you don't feel safe at home anymore."
Texas border town business owner sells family BBQ restaurant after multiple migrant break ins | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-border-town-business-owner-sells-family-bbq-restaurant-multiple-migrant-break-ins)

Keep sending them to Chicago and MV until they wake up and start to smell the coffee.

“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” (Alinsky 'Rules for Radicals ')
Loving the way DeSantis and Abbott are dealing with Dem hypocrisy. Kam the Sham and KJP say the borders are secure ? Send some to Kam's VP home at the Naval Observatory .

Second busload of migrants arrives outside Kamala Harris’ residence | The Texas Tribune (https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/17/greg-abbott-migrant-busing/)

Keep on sending the illegals to 'sanctuary 'cities and states . They are the ones who have declared that they will not enforce Federal laws . They should be sent there with at least the same frequency as Clueless sends planes full of illegals in the dead of night to Republican districts like Westchester County NY .

Biden resumes 'air illegal' into Westchester as migrant tide grows worse (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2022/04/18/biden-resumes-air-illegal-into-westchester-as-migrant-tide-grows-worse/)[FONT=times new roman, times, serif

Good ole Martha's Vineyard.


Real estate data and Massachusetts state resources (https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/us-regions/northeast/massachusetts) show otherwise. Island towns are flush with cash and plenty of extra beds to help needy people. Edgartown, for example, boasts $9.8 million in free cash — budget surplus — according to the Massachusetts Department of Revenue. It would have cost only $9.1 million to give all 50 migrants their own room for an entire year at Edgartown’s swanky $500-per-night Harbor View Hotel.

Martha's Vineyard residents lament lack of resources, even as island is flush with cash and beds | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/marthas-vineyard-residents-lament-lack-resources-island-flush-cash-beds#spark_wn=1)


Clueless sends planes full of illegals in the dead of night to Republican districts like Westchester County NY .It will be interesting to see if WG refers to Biden in the same way she referred to Abbott and DeSantis.

Newsom challenged DeSantis to a debate . DeSantis should avoid falling into the trap.

Don't debate an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and win because he has more practice at it .

I'll throw this out again. Keep hope alive!!

How many checkpoints would it take to make you happy? How many highways cross the southern border which don't currently have a checkpoint? lf the answer iS zero, then why are you calling for more checkpoints? PLEASE DON'T DODGE THESE QUESTIONS. ANSWER THEM.

Both legal and illegal immigrants don't know where checkpoints are, don't always follow roads -- or avoid them for various reasons. (Mexico has built roads to each checkpoint?!)

The currents checkpoints are far enough apart that it would be easy to bypass/avoid them. Perhaps drones can be sent between checkpoints to assess how many immigrants are deliberately or unknowingly bypassing the checkpoints. Is there U.S. communication between checkpoints? As for how many highways that cross the border that don't have a checkpoint? Probably none. But the border can be crossed without going on a highway.

Apparently, according to Wikipedia: Checkpoints are located between 25 and 75 miles (40 and 121 km) of the Mexico–United States border along major U.S. highways (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highways); near the southern border of the contiguous United States (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contiguous_United_States). Their situation at interior locations allow them to deter illegal activities that may have bypassed official border crossings along the frontier.

So if indeed there are currently no highways crossing the border that don't already have a checkpoint, there where would you put the new ones? Would you just build them basically in the middle of nowhere? And even if we did, do you really think that illegal aliens would be sure to locate one of those checkpoints so that they would be stopped and turned back?

I mentioned drones and also communication between border crossing stations and checkpoints.

To repeat -- These checkpoints are located ... along major U.S. highways [north of] the southern border of the contiguous United States. Their situation at interior [U.S.] locations allow them to deter illegal activities that may have bypassed official border crossings along the frontier.

Thus, I'd add more border crossings because it's "in the middle of nowhere" where both legal and illegal immigrants cross into the U.S. It wouldn't totally solve the problem but would definitely improve things.

What point is there in putting checkpoints in the middle of nowhere? Wouldn't the illegals just go around them. What if we used mobile patrols instead, going in jeeps and on horseback? Wouldn't their mobility be better than a static, largely useless checkpoint?

The checkpoints are on American soil, usually in civilized areas. Actually, I originally misspoke and should have said "border stations", not checkpoints. Each has its own function.

We need more border stations along the southern border with good communication between stations plus drones flying back and forth to record and report human activity.

Well, they are using drones, men on horseback, and men in jeeps, and communication is, I feel certain, very good. So other than recording and reporting human activity, what should these people do? In other words, once the recording and reporting has taken place, then what, especially bearing in mind that illegals are pouring across the border at a rate of several thousand every single day?

You would be, I think, much better served to simply be honest and say that you really don't care if they come across or not, illegal or otherwise. It is simply not an issue with liberal dems.

check points are not relevant . As has been mentioned ;the illegals are not looking for check points to cross . The illegals are looking to avoid them. What they should have before approaching the border is proper visas that say they are permitted to cross the border .

Border stations is semantics for border check points . They are at points of entry to inspect travelers and goods to prevent unauthorized goods and people from entering the country .

The checkpoints are on the U.S. side, so immigrants who stop at them are already in this country and are responsibly seeking the legal way to become citizens. There are also border stations that are *cough* on the border.

Again, paraphrasing Wikipedia: Checkpoints are located between 25 and 75 miles [north] of the Mexico–United States border along major U.S. highways. Their interior locations allow them to deter illegal activities that may have bypassed official border crossings along the frontier.

deport them if they don't have visas .... that is my position .

These turds are not seeking legal ways to enter the country

In the case of the dregs that were sent to Martha's Vinyards ;they are Venezuelan. The commie dictator there is emptying the jails and sending their worse on these caravans . This is very similar to the 1980s Castro ploy of sending Mariolita criminals and mental patients to the US .

When they landed ;they were detained until they could be sorted out . But we had completely different set of rules for Cubans .

There is no reason to not deport these Venezuelan criminal thugs immediately . These riff raff are under no restraint by the Clueless regime . His VEEP and press secretary say the border is secure . So Clueless instead allows DHS to extend Temporary Protected Status to these criminals

I sponsor a child in Colombia and know that Venezuela is having an ongoing socioeconomic and political crisis.
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An immigration lawyer says the almost 50 migrants who were flown in to Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts, on Wednesday under a program sponsored by Florida Governor DeSantis can be considered victims of kidnapping.

Rachel Self, who has an immigration law firm in Boston, Massachusetts, said accounts from the migrants "make it clear that they were lied to again and again and fraudulently induced to board the planes. Most of the migrants, including children, have fled from crisis-torn Venezuela."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/migrants-flown-to-marthas-vineyard-were-kidnapped-e2- 80-94immigration-attorney/ar-AA11TH4s (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/migrants-flown-to-marthas-vineyard-were-kidnapped-e2-80-94immigration-attorney/ar-AA11TH4s)

A letter to the editor in this morning's Chicago Tribune --

Immigrants used as fodder

What a sad commentary on the state of our political and social ethics that the governors of Florida, Texas and Arizona feel empowered to literally deposit hundreds of traumatized fellow human beings on the doorsteps of communities in other jurisdictions with apparently no warning or provision for their care in place.

Without a doubt, the issue of the orderly regulation of migration into our country by people whose only desire is to live in a free society with prospects of bettering their lives is an important one. It is not solved, however, by the “gotcha” mentality exhibited by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott or Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. Using travel-weary, confused and easily manipulated men, women and children as human fodder to make a political statement is beyond despicable.

It was not long ago that significant immigration reform was on the congressional agenda with bipartisan support. Those days are now a distant memory.

Perhaps this latest display of mean spirit will lead some of our leaders back to considering real solutions and eschewing such sophomoric stunts.

Once again, the great unanswered question.
Well, they are using drones, men on horseback, and men in jeeps, and communication is, I feel certain, very good. So other than recording and reporting human activity, what should these people do? In other words, once the recording and reporting has taken place, then what, especially bearing in mind that illegals are pouring across the border at a rate of several thousand every single day?

I just don't get your point about checkpoints. Are you saying that more checkpoints would impede illegal immigration, and putting checkpoints just out in desert areas with no roads, which seems foolish beyond belief, would do likewise? Does that mean that you are against illegal immigration now? If not, then what on earth is your point?

Why do you suppose this idiot did not bother to mention what the president has been doing, which is flying illegals by the multiple thousands around the country in the dead of night? Come to think of it, why have you been so quiet about it?
the governors of Florida, Texas and Arizona feel empowered to literally deposit hundreds of traumatized fellow human beings on the doorsteps of communities in other jurisdictions with apparently no warning or provision for their care in place.

Biden Administration Quietly Flies Illegal Immigrants to New York in Middle of Night: Report (yahoo.com) (https://news.yahoo.com/biden-administration-quietly-flies-illegal-140450591.html)

Are these things, in your view, only wrong when done by repubs?

Did you read the ENTIRE linked article you posted?


Are these things, in your view, only wrong when done by repubs?
What things?

So when you are just trying to reunite families, you need to do that only late at night???


What things?Never mind. You are running away from questions again anyway. It's pointless. Your approach is simple. It's wrong when repubs do it, and fine when Biden does it. So plain.

Ah, you didn't read it all!

I have NO idea what specific things you are talking about. A lot of "things" have been posted in this thread.

Migrants Get the Last Laugh After Being Bused to D.C. (NYT, 09/19/22)

[Earlier immigrants who were bused to D.C. are calling] the free transportation a blessing. They are already employed and achieving some measure of stability. They have found jobs in construction, hospitality, retail, trucking and other sectors facing worker shortages in an economy still recovering from the impact of the pandemic.

“In most big cities, including the ones where governors are shipping migrants, employers are scrambling to find workers,” said Chris Tilly, a labor economist at UCLA. “They are meeting a need.”

Martha's Vinyard exposed the true nature of Dem elite's polices . They want immigrants to come to America for the sole reason of affecting the voting demographics .However ,they don't want them in their neighborhood

Advocate /talk show host personality, Charlamagne tha God, exposed their hypocrisy . He called the DeSantis and Abbott moves 'genius' pointing out the fact noted above.
It is not just immigrants either . Dem politicians ship out the homeless when it is convenient to them.

Bussed out: how America moves thousands of homeless people around the country | Homelessness | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/20/bussed-out-america-moves-homeless-people-country-study)

What Charlamagne knows is that when these immigrants come here they are not competing for the Dem elite jobs . They are competing for gardener, construction worker, childcare provider, food preparation worker, home and office cleaner, etc. They also compete for low income housing ,and their children are filling up chairs in already poorly run classrooms. In other words they compete with American Blacks in the Democrat plantation.

Martha's Vinyard exposed the true nature of Dem elite's polices . They want immigrants to come to America for the sole reason of affecting the voting demographics .However ,they don't want them in their neighborhood.Exactly correct. And all the talk about checkpoints is just nonsense. A fifth grader could figure out that illegal immigrants are not going to go through checkpoints. "We would've gone through a checkpoint and bought a Dr. Pepper, but we didn't know where they were, so instead we just snuck across unseen in the dead of night through a wilderness area." Huh???

It never ceases to amaze.

Martha's Vinyard exposed the true nature of Dem elite's polices . They want immigrants to come to America for the sole reason of affecting the voting demographics .However ,they don't want them in their neighborhood.
Then, why don't the Republicans turn the tables on the Dems by welcoming the immigrants into their communities, find housing for them, and introduce them to various services -- and thereby swing the voting demographics their way?

The issue is the fact that we have no control at all of our own southern border. These people are crossing illegally and thus are law-breakers. They need to enter the legal way. And despite your foolish denials to the contrary, drugs are being brought in, sex trafficking is taking place, gang transactions are taking place, and all because our president has no interest in enforcing the law.

The issue is the fact that we have no control at all of our own southern border. These people are crossing illegally and thus are law-breakers.
Not all of them. What percentage are lawbreakers? And, do they know they need permission to enter another country? If you're from rural Venezuela, would you know?


And despite your foolish denials to the contrary, drugs are being brought in, sex trafficking is taking place, gang transactions are taking place
I have not denied that.

Not all of them. What percentage are lawbreakers? And, do they know they need permission to enter another country? If you're from rural Venezuela, would you know?100% of illegal immigrants are lawbreakers by definition. Yes, they need permission to enter practically any other country. Try flying into those countries without a passport and see what happens.

You have not denied that? Oh yes, you did. Post 78. I had said, "Many cross for the purpose of sex-trafficking, gang transactions, or drug trafficking. Happy with that???" You replied, "You are so wrong! Please do some honest research!" Note the exclamation marks, added for emphasis!!

Perhaps "honest research" is what is needed in your replies?

Why is there no Dem outrage over the number of illegals who die at the border ?

DeSantis made an important point :

"Immigrants have been more than willing to leave Bexar County after being abandoned, homeless, and 'left to fend for themselves.' (by the administration)

Florida gave them an opportunity to seek greener pastures in a sanctuary jurisdiction that offered greater resources for them, as we expected. U​nless the MA national guard has abandoned these individuals, they have been provided accommodations, sustenance, clothing and more options to succeed following their unfair enticement into the United States, unlike the 53 immigrants who died in a truck found abandoned in Bexar County this June."

He mentions that Texas county because the Sheriff there is trying to make a name for himself by accusing DeSantis and Abbott of human trafficking .

The truth is that the Clueless Administration is complicit with cartels of being probably the largest human trafficking operation in the world .

So what is worse ;50 illegals being shipped to an alleged sanctuary region ;or 50 humans suffocating in a truck at the border ?

Clueless policies have prompted the largest number of unaccompanied minors crossing the border in history, many of whom are under the control of human traffickers, child smugglers, and cartels
.U.S. shelters received a record 122,000 unaccompanied migrant children in 2021 - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-122000-unaccompanied-migrant-children-us-shelters-2021/)

Why will Charles reign be called the Carolean era ? Is it just because of the name Charles ?

Madam Mimi direct from the Democrat plantation ...

"We have a shortage of workers in our country. In Florida, some of the farmers and the growers are saying 'why are you shipping these immigrants up North? We need them to pick the crops down here.'"

" old times they are not forgotten ;look away look away look away Dixieland "

Pelosi: Florida farmers need immigrants to 'pick the crops' | WCIV (abcnews4.com) (https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/pelosi-florida-farmers-need-immigrants-to-pick-the-crops)

We need these illegal immigrants to come in here and pick our crops. Or so say Ms. Pelosi.


Responding to a question about the topic during the press conference, Pelosi began by admitting that there needs to be both border security and openness to migrants. She said, "The fact is, is that, uh, we have a responsibility to secure our border. We also have a responsibility to recognize the importance of newcomers to our nation. Right now the best thing we can do for our economy is have comprehensive immigration reform."
She then added, "We have a shortage of workers in our country, and you see even in Florida some of the farmers and the growers saying, ‘Why are you shipping these immigrants up north? We need them to pick the crops down here.’"

She has had a Dem majority in the House since 2006 more or less . At any time she could've taken the necessary steps to secure the border .

Her message really is that they need illegal aliens to replace the antebellum slaves and to bring new voters in ;dependent on the Dem's largess and compassion.

But she can't speak of that in so many words . So she says Florida agriculture needs cheap labor citrus pickers . Much better . She get's a dig at DeSantis for moving the illegals to the Dem "sanctuary" cities and states .

The Dems really fear DeSantis . Give them a day or 2 to start attacking him for hurricane response . It worked for them in 2006 . It worked for them in 2012 .

I can predict now that the Dems will start a campaign to install drop off mail boxes and permit unprecedented levels of ballot harvesting in Fla.; and maybe SC and NC .

I think DeSantis is a legit possibility. Trump has likely crested and his big mouth shows no signs of slowing down which many people find irritating. DeSantis seems to have the ability to take tough stands without being off-putting. We'll see.

it took less time than I thought .The pit bulls at the Slimes are on the attack

Facing a Dire Storm Forecast in Florida, Officials Delayed Evacuation (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/facing-a-dire-storm-forecast-in-florida-officials-delayed-evacuation/ar-AA12sq4i?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=67d195ea799048f8912011d5d1973f27)

(I linked to MSN because Slimes makes you pay for the birdcage liner )

NYC Mayor is begging Clueless Joe for relief . NYC has had an influx of illegals. They are not coming from Texas or Florida . They are being transported by midnight flights and bus rides provided by Clueless .

Friday Mayor Adams official invoked a state of emergency and is asking for Federal and State assistance.

NYC mayor declares state of emergency amid migrant busing crisis | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nyc-mayor-declares-state-emergency-amid-migrant-busing-crisis-2022-10-07/)


But Mayor Adams called NYC a sanctuary city only 2 weeks ago .

Dem New York City Mayor Eric Adams: NYC Will Continue To Be "Sanctuary City" For Illegal Immigrants - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwDdEDV-rJU)

Perspectives change when the rubber meets the road.

The continuous disregard for the truth by the Biden admin has become tiresome.


Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas was told that the photographer who captured a clash between Border Patrol agents and Haitian migrants in Del Rio had said that the incident was being misconstrued -- hours before Mayorkas joined a White House press conference where he didn’t challenge the false narrative.
The Sept. 24, 2021 email, obtained by the Heritage Foundation via a Freedom of Information Act request (FOIA), shines light onto internal deliberations surrounding the controversy in Del Rio, Texas, where Democrats and the White House pushed a narrative that migrants had been "whipped" or "strapped" by Border Patrol agents despite it being quickly debunked.
In fact, agents were using split reins to control their houses as migrants rushed across the river. But a narrative, based on a misinterpretation of photographs, was running and on Sept. 24 was further fueled by President Biden.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mayorkas-alerted-haitian-migrants-whipped-hours-wh-press-conference

Biden's response was the typical anti-law enforcement narrative we have come to expect from democrats. "To see people treated like they did, horses barely running over, people being strapped — it's outrageous. I promise you, those people will pay. There will be an investigation underway now, and there will be consequences. There will be consequences."

There were consequences alright, in spite of the fact that it soon became obvious that Biden had no idea of what he was talking about, and that the investigation would show the that no one was whipped or run over. How much longer must we endure this person???

the agents still face adminstrative disciplinary action even though DHS knew hours before the presser that the narrative was a blatant lie.

Clueless Joe is getting desperate . He adopted Trump's send them back to Mexico policy that he had originally reversed by EO and had created the hordes of illegals migration after they correctly concluded that he was an open border Dem.

But he is getting hammered politically . So he spoke to Dem mayor of El Paso Oscar Leeser and told him to NOT declare a state of emergency over the invasion.

Rep Tony Gonzales confirmed the report .

update .

Poland began construction of a razor wire wall across it's entire border with the Russian exclave Kaliningrad ;about 130 miles . This is in response to the Russian regional airport ,Khrabrovo Airport, that will begin to accept flights from the Middle East.
The concern is that Russia will direct "asylum seekers " aka llegal immigrants to the Polish border for entry ino the EU.

The razor wire is temporary . A more permanent wall will be built similar to the one Poland has with Russia's puppet colony state Belarus. Poland was swarmed with so called asylum seekers from Belarus .In that case Belarus was forcing them to cross the border .Poland in turn was forcing them back to Belarus . The wall is an 18 feet steel wall with electronic monitors .

Poland is the last of the EU countries to erect a barrier with it's Russian border .Finland, Estonia, and Latvia are all constructing fencing along their Russian borders; with some stretches already complete.

Hmmm. "Build a wall." Now that's a novel idea. It certainly seems better than just casting off all restraints and allowing a tidal wave of who knows who to just come rolling across.

DHS data for the end of the fiscal year are out . It don't look good .

CBP Enforcement Statistics Fiscal Year 2022 | U.S. Customs and Border Protection (https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics)

Clueless Joe's administration shattered a US record by apprehending nearly 2.4 million illegal aliens along the Mexican border(227,547 illegals in September alone).

Border Patrol agents arrested hundreds of gang members—mostly from Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13). 751 gang members compared to 348 in 2021. 312 of those belong to the MS-13. More than 145 members of Paisas, a prison gang from Mexico, were also apprehended.... 146 from the 18th Street LA gang.



98 people on the national terrorist watchlist were arrested ;compared to 16 in 2021 . This is a growing trend . A man from Bangladesh was running a human smuggling operation on the Mexican border with Guatemala ,and was sentenced last year .

Man Sentenced for Role in International Human Smuggling Conspiracy | OPA | Department of Justice (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/man-sentenced-role-international-human-smuggling-conspiracy)

This reflects a growing demographic of illegal aliens from terrorist nations entering the U.S. through Mexico. The government classifies them as Special Interest Aliens (SIA) .Tens of thousands of SIAs entered Panama and Colombia in recent years mostly from Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Bangladesh, and India.

One can only imagine how many of the list above escaped capture and infiltrated into the US.

The Del Rio sector in Texas saw the most traffic with 480,930 illegals , an increase of 85% over 2021. The Rio Grande Valley sector ,468,124 encounters...Yuma in Arizona (310,094), El Paso (307,884) and Tucson (251,984).

The Scmuckster weighed in on amnesty . This clown who advocates for infanticide is saying Americans don't make enough babies and that is why we need to legalize the illegal aliens pouring into the country .

Chuck Schumer Calls for Citizenship for All Illegal Aliens - The Maine Wire (https://www.themainewire.com/2022/11/chuck-schumer-calls-for-citizenship-for-all-illegal-aliens/)

remember when it was a racist conspiracy theory to suggest the Great Replacement Theory ?



United StatesMain article: Great replacement in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_replacement_in_the_United_States)
The Great replacement in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_replacement_in_the_United_States) is the American version of a white nationalist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalist) far-right conspiracy theory that racial minorities are displacing the traditional white American population and taking control of the nation. Versions of the theory "have become commonplace" in the Republican Party of the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_of_the_United_States), and have become a major issue of political debate. It also has stimulated violent responses including mass murders





Great Replacement - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement)


Well that was then . This is now .


"Now more than ever we're short of workers. We have a population that is not reproducing on its own with the same level that it used to. The only way we’re going to have a great future in America is if we welcome and embrace immigrants -- the DREAMers and all of them -- because our ultimate goal is to help the DREAMers -- but get a path to citizenship for all 11 million, or however many undocumented, there are here."

Schumer Calls For Path To Citizenship For "All 11 Million, Or However Many" Illegal Immigrants There Are | Video | RealClearPolitics (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/11/16/schumer_calls_for_path_to_citizenship_for_all_11_m illion_or_however_many_illegal_immigrants_there_ar e.html)

remember when it was a racist conspiracy theory to suggest the Great Replacement Theory ?

Ergo, you now support the racist theory, and are against immigration? Where did your forefathers emigrate from, Tomder?

Schmuck Schumer appears to be all in for it . So do most of the Dems who speak honestly about it .

I am against ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION I am against open borders . I am against immigrants cutting the line to come here before people who have properly filled for entry . My ancestors followed the law their first act in their new adopted country was not breaking the law.

Ergo, you now support the racist theory, and are against immigration?So supporting the rule of law is now being a "racist"? Hmm.


Where did your forefathers emigrate from, Tomder?This is the type of question that liberals consider to be of the "gotcha" variety. You answered it well. Practically all immigration into our country prior to the past 20 years or so was of the legal variety. Strange how this business of honoring the concept of law seems to be so foreign to liberals.

My ancestors followed the law their first act in their new adopted country was not breaking the law.

Your ancestor's first act doing something was NOT doing something? Hmmm...

NYC mayor Eric Adams on the influx of illegal aliens into the city

Our shelter system is full, and we are nearly out of money, staff, and space. Truth be told, if corrective measures are not taken soon, we may very well be forced to cut or curtail programs New Yorkers rely on


“We’ve asked both the state and federal government for funding, for space to house asylum seekers, for staff, for workforce authorizations and, most importantly, a long-term strategy to ensure asylum seekers are sent to other cities,” he said. “Our requests for assistance have been mostly ignored.”

Mayor Adams says NYC is not prepared for influx of migrants as federal rule expires - Gothamist (https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-adams-says-nyc-is-not-prepared-for-influx-of-migrants-as-federal-rule-expires)

Asking the Guv ;asking Clueless will get him nowhere. NYC is not even close to experiencing what the border cities have endured with this open border policy of the Dems .

“We’ve asked both the state and federal government for fundingSo they are asking the feds for money? Interesting.

This is what Mayor Adams should remember

Candidate Biden Calls On Illegal Immigrants to Surge the Border - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYwLYMPLYbo)

He can do those things because he knows the liberal media has his back. That include Martha Raddatz making this insane claim.


ABC News Chief Global Affairs Correspondent Martha Raddatz pressed Texas Governor Greg Abbott (R) on his criticisms for President Joe Biden's handling of the border crisis because she has never heard Biden say "'we have an open border.'"

Here's Who Martha Raddatz Thinks Is to Blame for America's 'Open Border' (townhall.com) (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2022/12/19/martha-raddatz-blames-open-border-on-republican-leaders-n2617295)

Remember when the Dems pretended to be concerned about the fate of the illegal aliens ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fk_Rr_SXkAAgUs_?format=jpg&name=small

This is El Paso now because of the heartless Dem policies

https://images.dailycaller.com/image/width=960,height=411,fit=cover,f=auto/https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Fc5aQRPWIAAy_Xj-e1663598852923.jpeg

Any comment on the heartless moving of migrants, including young children and babies, being shipped to a destination and not being told of the destination which was the home of VP Harris? Transported without winter clothing in 18 degree temps? Some wearing only t-shirts disembarking to the cold streets from the bus?

ON CHRISTMAS EVE!!!!!!

Do you remember the story of the baby Jesus being born in a manger because there was no room at the inn? Do you think Texas Governor Abbot enjoys playing Herod? Do YOU enjoy that role?

Let the little ones come unto me, said Jesus. Not, send them out in the cold to make a political statement.

The Republican Parry and their silent witnesses have reached a new low.

So Abbot is to blame for the border crisis . I get it . Kam the Sham is the border czar . Maybe she should 'let them have a room at the Inn'. The streets of El Paso were in the 30 degree range Christmas weekend . Thousands of illegals slept on the streets 'without winter clothing' because Dems let hundreds of thousands and many busloads enter without legal places in the Inn .

When All Out Crazy did her act at the detention center the illegals had a bed ;a blanket ,and were fed .

When Joseph traveled with his family to Bethlehem ;he was moving his family legally due to a government decree . He was not attempting to violate the law and enter Bethlehem illegally .

Many of these illegals paid $ thousands to smugglers to help them invade. Did they forget to buy coats ?

If Trump was presiding over this lunacy, the liberal dems on this board would have their hair on fire, but since it's Biden at the wheel, we just get platitudes about Joseph and Mary. It never changes.

So Abbot is to blame for the border crisis . I get it

No Tom, you don't get it. I never blamed Abbot for the border crisis. I blame Abbot for his incredible insensitivity and downright cruelty for what he did on CHRISTMAS EVE - OF ALL DAYS.

Your Joseph story couldn't be more inappropriate, as is your sarcastic tone!

When Republicans stoop so low, I wonder if there is any hope left for the Grand Old Party.

I get a kick when people who don't respect Christianity and call the Bible fables run to cite it when it serves their purpose.

On Christmas Eve; across Texas and all the border states ,thousands of illegals slept on the streets in cities and towns because Clueless Joe's "SURGE " encouraged them to take a perilous journey and hire human trafficers to help them illegally cross the border . El Paso does not have room "at the Inn" to service the residence of El Paso who need assistance . So spare me the fake tears and faux outrage about Abbott. If anyone is to blame it is the man who said .


Candidate Biden Calls On Illegal Immigrants to Surge the Border - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYwLYMPLYbo)

I get a kick when people who don't respect Christianity and call the Bible fables run to cite it when it serves their purpose.

Where in the world did you ever get the idea that I don't respect Christianity? Hopefully, not from any fundamentalists you pal around with. Now, THAT branch of Christianity I oppose, but even there do not disrespect. I DO disrespect some adherents of fundamentalism, but that's due to the person - not the belief.

December 22 ICE sent a letter to Syracuse U 'Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse' (TRAC)that it had no records of 377,980 illegals it had released into the country wearing tracking devices in an' Alternatives to Detention' (ATD) program.

ICE Admits It Has ‘No Records’ For Hundreds Of Thousands Of Illegal Immigrants Released With Electronic Monitors | The Daily Caller (https://dailycaller.com/2022/12/28/immigration-and-customs-enforcement-illegal-immigration/)

According to ICE the ATD
“allows for closer monitoring of non-detained noncitizens at varying levels of supervision, using several different monitoring technologies. ATD effectively increases court appearance rates, compliance with release conditions, and helps the participants meet basic needs and understand immigration obligations.”

yeah right .

ICE hosts Alternatives to Detention program symposium | ICE (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-hosts-alternatives-detention-program-symposium)

I get a kick when people who don't respect Christianity and call the Bible fables run to cite it when it serves their purpose.Well said. Christianity is a pretty easy religion when a person can simply ignore the parts of the Bible that don't agree with his or her preconceived ideas.

Losing track of nearly four hundred thousand illegals is probably a fairly simple proposition when you don't really care about keeping up with them to begin with.

December 22 ICE sent a letter to Syracuse U 'Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse' (TRAC)that it had no records of 377,980 illegals it had released into the country wearin..........

According to ICE the ATD
“allows for closer monitoring of non-detained noncitizens at varying levels of sies. ATD effectively increases court appearance rates, compliance with release conditions, and helps the participants meet basic needs and understand immigration obligations.”

yeah right .
The above is a reply to my post here ??


Where in the world did you ever get the idea that I don't respect Christianity? Hopefully, not from any fundamentalists you pal around with. Now, THAT branch of Christianity I oppose, but even there do not disrespect. I DO disrespect some adherents of fundamentalism, but that's due to the person - not the belief.

no I chose not to get into a religious discussion .

no I chose not to get into a religious discussion .

Ok. I understand. I felt it necessary to reply to your comment on the Christmas Eve post.

here is the ICE letter admitting their ahem mistake .Why is this not headline news on all the compliant press ? It is that big a deal
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlCDSQ3WIAEMcEJ?format=jpg&name=small

So the problem is that records seem to have been destroyed or removed?

ERO is where ICE is supposed to remove illegals from the country after a final determination of their status.

The records of those released into the country under the Alternative to Detention program....which is supposed to provide for " closer monitoring of non-detained noncitizens at varying levels of supervision, using several different monitoring technologies"... were either never kept ;went missing; or were destroyed .

ICE hosts Alternatives to Detention program symposium | ICE (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-hosts-alternatives-detention-program-symposium)

I believe they never intended to keep track of the illegals released into the country

I believe they never intended to keep track of the illegals released into the country


At the current rate of illegal entries, it's likely not possible to keep track of it. The unfortunate thing is that this news will probably be met with a great, collective yawn by the relative few who even find out about it. We'll see, but it seems that no one really expects the Biden admin to enforce the laws anyway unless, of course, it refers to the proper use of gender related pronouns.

And in the meantime, there is this. HB better be glad his last name is not "Trump".


Hunter Biden's ex-stripper lover requests to change their child's last name to Biden. Hunter allegedly has never met his daughter, whose first name is Navy.

But the Biden family seemingly wants nothing to do with the child, striking her attendance from the 46th presidential inauguration and allegedly refusing to offer the mother-daughter pair security amid domestic violence threats from the elder Roberts’ ex.

Hunter Biden’s Baby Mama Asks Court to Give Daughter His Last Name (thedailybeast.com) (https://www.thedailybeast.com/hunter-bidens-baby-mama-asks-court-to-give-their-daughter-his-last-name?utm_medium=socialflow&utm_campaign=owned_social&via=twitter_page&utm_source=twitter_owned_tdb)

Give creepy Joe enough time . Soon he will be sniffing her hair and trying to shower with her.

Give creepy Joe enough time . Soon he will be sniffing her hair and trying to shower with her.
Yeah, Trump's been instructing him in the predatory arts.

So predictable. HB behaves like a jerk, so we need to talk about Trump.

Joe's hair sniffing is documented in many sources. His daughter Ashley claimed in her diary that he showered with her .

The closest Trump came to that is when he said that if Ivanka wasn't his daughter he might be dating her. The press ran with every story of Trump alleged harassment . The press covers Joe's up

How did Ashley's diary come to light? You don't know that smelling your child's hair before you scold or yell works the best to remember to be kind and loving?

The press didn't have to talk about Trump's predatory behavior. He bragged about it. Haven't you watched those videos?

doesn't matter how Ashley's diary went public . She does not deny it's existence or it's content .

Sniffing a daughter's hair is one thing . But creepy Joe has an unhealthy obsession to sniffing other girls hair . As a dad I can tell you that if I ever showered with my daughter I would expect to be put away.

Here we have a grandfather disavowing his grand daughter . He is a jerk

doesn't matter how Ashley's diary went public . She does not deny it's existence or it's content .


NOT DENYING its existence is NOT proof that it is true. Logic 101.

The diary excerpts have repeatedly been discarded as a right-wing fabrication by the usual far-right suspects. There is not a scintilla of evidence it has any truth or even that it exists as a legitimate diary of Biden's daughter.

If the press reported a fake story that I had bathed with my daughter and she did not deny it, then it would be an enormous problem between us. Logic 100.5. Truth is, we usually try to think the best of politicians who do what we like.

As a dad I can tell you that if I ever showered with my daughter I would expect to be put away.
So all those families all over the world who bathe together should be institutionalized? There's something sinful about viewing the naked human body? I'm guessing you're against public breastfeeding too.

I'm guessing you're against public breastfeeding too. guess again

So Wondergirl approves of dads and daughters bathing together? Good grief. Surely that is not the message she intended to convey.

The case states one thing that is obvious . Having ties to the 'big guy' has benefits .( "would greatly impact and preserve her legacy as a member of the Biden family.")



A judge declared that a DNA test proved with "near scientific certainty" that Biden was the father of the child, and temporary child support was agreed upon by the parties.
Tuesday's filing noted the prominence of the Biden family, including the fact that the child's grandfather is the current president of the United States


Mom of Hunter Biden's Child Wants 'Benefit' of His Last Name (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/mother-hunter-bidens-child-files-court-motion-wants-benefit-his-last-name-1770212)

The Biden crime family is famous for influence peddling, trading off the family name for big $$$ through no show jobs, board seats, painting sales (and industry typically used as a money laundering tool) , etc.

Remember when the Dems claimed that Trump was in violation of the Emolument Clause ? Well Quid bypasses it by having his family act as surrogates while invoking the Biden name in their business transactions .

The Benefits of Being Joe Biden’s Brother — ProPublica (https://www.propublica.org/article/the-profitable-business-of-being-joe-bidens-brother)

Entering the health care field, James Biden told potential investors that “his last name could open doors and that Joe Biden was excited about the public policy implications of their business models,”
James Biden’s health care ventures face a growing legal morass - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/09/james-biden-health-care-ventures-123159)

Sniffing a daughter's hair is one thing . But creepy Joe has an unhealthy obsession to sniffing other girls hair .
Sorry to backtrack. Smelling a kid's hair can tell an adult a lot about where they've been and what they've been doing. Does their hair smell like cigarette smoke or pot or vape smoke or a brushfire? (maybe Granddaughter Ashley and her friends changed clothes but didn't think to wash their hair)

So dads need to bathe with their daughters and smell the hair of their friends to see if someone has been smoking? Please tell me this is a joke. I know you want to defend Biden, but at all costs?

Let's stop making excuses for the perv

Biden touching girls compilation (RAW CSPAN FOOTAGE) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PLSPvJ9BY)

At least he isn't slinking into the dressing room and grabbing them by the p--sy.

that was just talk . Here we have video evidence of his creepiness ;as well as a 1st hand account in his daughter's diary .

To those who downplay that ; 2 people were arrested because they found it after Ashley left it behind from a rehab stint . They tried to sell it .In addition the FBI made goon squad raids of offices of Project Veritas to retrieve the content . They also raided the home of Veritas founder James OKeefe . There was a time that such an attack on the free press would've been abhorrent to the left . But now the press embraces it's role as the compliant press.


This is just beyond belief,” said University of Minnesota law professor Jane Kirtley, a former executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. “I’m not a big fan of Project Veritas, but this is just over the top. I hope they get a serious reprimand from the court because I think this is just wrong.”

FBI raid on Project Veritas founder’s home sparks questions about press freedom - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/13/raid-veritas-okeefe-biden-press-521307)

that was just talk . Here we have video evidence of his creepiness ;as well as a 1st hand account in his daughter's diary .

I've watched multiple times on an enlarged screen. In a noisy room, he bent over to say something to each girl, NOT smell her hair.

And Trump's grabbing was not only "just talk" but the grabbing (and worse) had really been done by him. Yes, let's talk about creepy, tomder.

And, as Athos indicated, was that really from Ashley's diary?

The grab was locker talk by a braggart .

if the content of the diary was fabricated it would've been denied .


more hair sniffing of young girls by Creepy Joe .He's a sicko perv

biden hair sniffing - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=biden++hair+sniffing+&biw=1703&bih=874&tbm=vid&ei=t5uwY434L4vfkPIPuNuYsAU&ved=0ahUKEwjNr8Sg2aT8AhWLL0QIHbgtBlY4FBDh1QMIDg&uact=5&oq=biden++hair+sniffing+&gs_lcp=Cg1nd3Mtd2l6LXZpZGVvEAM6CAgAELEDEJECOgUIABC RAjoFCAAQgAQ6DQgAEIAEELEDEIMBEAo6BwgAEIAEEApQ7ghY2 Shg8ipoAXAAeACAAf4BiAGtEZIBBjAuMTQuMZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-video#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:cd9d1573,vid:-zvszeudn98)

Biden Smells Oakland Baby's Hair On Super Tuesday - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdDxUEEE7uM)

Joe Biden - Hair Sniffer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awOCYV8DSBU)

The grab was locker talk by a braggart .

if the content of the diary was fabricated it would've been denied .


more hair sniffing of young girls by Creepy Joe .He's a sicko perv
biden hair sniffing - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=biden++hair+sniffing+&biw=1703&bih=874&tbm=vid&ei=t5uwY434L4vfkPIPuNuYsAU&ved=0ahUKEwjNr8Sg2aT8AhWLL0QIHbgtBlY4FBDh1QMIDg&uact=5&oq=biden++hair+sniffing+&gs_lcp=Cg1nd3Mtd2l6LXZpZGVvEAM6CAgAELEDEJECOgUIABC RAjoFCAAQgAQ6DQgAEIAEELEDEIMBEAo6BwgAEIAEEApQ7ghY2 Shg8ipoAXAAeACAAf4BiAGtEZIBBjAuMTQuMZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-video#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:cd9d1573,vid:-zvszeudn98)

Your obsession with Biden by seeing what isn't there makes YOU the perv.

Trump's locker room pig talk was REAL, not imagined. Real men do not talk like that about women.

Your obsession with Biden by seeing what isn't there makes YOU the perv.Biden must be defended no matter how completely illogical it becomes.

I still can't get past WG suggesting that a dad bathing with his daughter is acceptable. Just incredible.

Clueless is getting into campaign mode. You know this by his sudden interest in the border crisis he created by inviting an invasion of the southern border . He will FINALLY go to the border at El Paso Sunday. Then he is off to Mexico to visit airports with Mexico jefe Lopez Obrador (aka AMLO).


He is flying into a new airport at the remote edge of Mexico City so he can help Obrador promote the airport after he came under domestic criticism for the project.The new airport is about 30 miles north of Mexico City’s National Palace, where a summit of North American leaders will take place, and traffic can cause the drive to take more than an hour. Oh well a longer and more potentially dangerous motorcade ride is a homage that is a small price to pay . Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will also land at the remote airport . In return AMLO had El Chapo's son arrested .

While a horde of hundreds of thousands (millions ) illegals cross the border ....Clueless has a new get tough plan . He will accept 30,000 migrants a month from Cuba, Nicaragua, Haiti and Venezuela and give them work visas . He says he will expel the rest .
“Do not, do not just show up at the border,”
“Stay where you are and apply legally from there,”

Biden urges migrants not to 'just show up at the border' to immigrate to the U.S. (yahoo.com) (https://news.yahoo.com/biden-urges-migrants-not-just-193038120.html)

"Starting today, if you don't apply through the legal process, you will not be eligible for this new parole program. Let me reiterate, you need a lawful sponsor in the United States of America, number one, and you need to undergo a rigorous background check. Number two, if your application is approved and you show up at a US airport, or when and where directed-- excuse me-- you have access. But if your applications is denied, or you attempt to cross into the United States unlawfully, you will not be allowed to enter."

Of course he claimed that the catastrophe at the border was all Repub fault because they block plans of blanket amnesty under the guise of 'comprehensive reform' . The truth is that until yesterday's announcement he put zero political effort into controlling the border . On the contrary; his stated plan to have illegals "surge " the border was only blocked by SCOTUS . But since he has put no effort into enforcement it hardly matters what the law says.
If he were serious about reaching consensus he would not have started his comments with the typical blame game .

We've been down this road before . comprehsive reform means blanket amnesty with a promise of border enforcement at some date in the future. Typical Dem 1st create a crisis ;blame the Repubs for the crisis ;promise to fix the crisis they create .

“Do not, do not just show up at the border,”
“Stay where you are and apply legally from there,”This is what now passes by Biden "getting tough". I'm sure they will all supervise their illegal crossings to make sure they don't exceed the 30,000 figure.

When Biden expels the first one, be sure to let us know.

LOL El Paso is getting ready for Clueless' visit tomorrow by clearing all the homeless illegal alien encampments off of the city streets .

Border Patrol detains migrants in El Paso streets days before Biden visit (elpasomatters.org) (https://elpasomatters.org/2023/01/05/migrants-in-downtown-el-paso-texas-detained-before-biden-visit/)

nothing to see here

Headline. "Border Patrol Shoots Self in Foot"

14 months ago ;when talking about the border , Clueless Joe said

“I’ve been there before. I mean, I know it well,” ......“I guess I should go down but the whole point of it is, I haven’t had a whole hell of a lot of time to get down.”

He found the time yesterday so now he can take it off of his bucket list. But the truth is that no one had a record of him ever visiting the border before yesterday. .

Peppermint Patty Psaki had made a lame comment with a straight face that he drove by the border in 2008 on the campaign trail.

White House says Biden drove by the border in 2008 | CNN Politics (https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/22/politics/border-joe-biden-jen-psaki/index.html)

Of course he only did this because 1). He is getting into campaign mode for 2024 2). Dem leaders like NYC Mayor Eric Adams and Cal Guv Gavin Newsom have begged the administration to act.
A horde of more than 5 million illegal alien invaders infiltrated under his watch before he decided to act.
Then he has the cojones to blame Repubs for the crisis . He called on Repubs to work with Dems to pass "comprehensive reform" ....aka amnesty .

It's easy to correct
1) end catch and release
2) reinstate the Trump policy of remain in Mexico for processing
3 )complete the wall.
4) expel any illegal caught

I can add for 4 ) he is actually going to do this one....or so he says ..... expel Cuban, Nicaraguan and Haitian illegals . now about the rest .

To sum up his border policy. blame shift ; grandstand with photo-ops ;pontificate

A horde of more than 5 million illegal alien invaders infiltrated under his watch before he decided to act.The problem is that other than a photo-op and lying, he is doing nothing. Your four suggestions at the end are good ones and would effectively reduce illegal immigration by probably 90%.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fl_0-zhXwAErqi2?format=jpg&name=small

Nothing to see here

I wonder what they are saying to Mr. Biden? "Uhm, Mr. President, this is a wall. Please note that there is no illegal immigration going on here."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fl_0-zhXwAErqi2?format=jpg&name=small

Nothing to see here
Why didn't Trump build the wall?

Trump had to fight against a dem dominated Congress his last two years. Even at that, he still got about 400 miles of wall built. That is opposed to zero miles for Biden unless, of course, you count the fence he had built, at taxpayer expense, around his Delaware beach house.

is that a real question or rhetorical ?


$100 million in border wall materials wasted in Texas: report (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2021/10/11/100-million-in-border-wall-materials-wasted-in-texas-report/)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fl_Og5fXEAIRYaI?format=png&name=large

is that a real question or rhetorical ?
A real question!!!

With all that charm and realistic thinking and problem-solving ability, it could have been a slam dunk for Trump!

is that a real question or rhetorical ?Tom, that one made me laugh out loud. It just shows what goes on around here. Anything to avoid being made to actually state her position.

Sadly, Abbott's five common sense ideas at the end of his letter will be completely ignored.

1 Congress obstructed progress on the wall .They underfunded it ;voted to terminate the emergency declaration he issued and filed a lawsuit saying the declaration was unconstitutional .

US House votes to block Trump border wall national emergency | RNZ News (https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/383511/us-house-votes-to-block-trump-border-wall-national-emergency)


2. Blue States obstructed progress on the wall. 16 Blue states filed lawsuit against the construction of the wall.

16 States Sue to Stop Trump’s Use of Emergency Powers to Build Border Wall - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/18/us/politics/national-emergency-lawsuits-trump.html)

Trump did not have dictatorial power . Considering the obstructions ;he got a tremendous amount of the job done

A real question!!!And you got real answers.

he got a tremendous amount of the job done
He got 458 miles built out of 1933 miles needed...yeah, real tremendous.

458 miles so you think a wall from Chitown to Pittsburg would be no big accomplishment ?

458 miles so you think a wall from Chitown to Pittsburg would be no big accomplishment ?
Many of those miles were dups paralleling already-built walls.

"Heck, we've walked this far north. Let's go east and walk around this stoopid wall."

He got 458 miles built out of 1933 miles neededInteresting. You admit the wall is needed. You admit Trump built several hundred miles of it. So here's another real question. How much has Biden built???

In Arizona v. Mayorkas Clueless argued that the pandemic was over so there was no need to continue Trump's Title 42 border policies .

BUT today the administration said the pandemic was not over .

Biden administration extends COVID-19 public health emergency | PBS NewsHour (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/biden-administration-extends-covid-19-public-health-emergency)

Does the covid crisis end at the border ?

Row is a hotel on 8th Avenue in mid-town Manhattan close to many of NYC attractions. Currently it is also being used as a temporary housing for illegal aliens. Workers at the hotel are saying that daily they are throwing out large bags of free prepared food .They say that the illegals drink alcohol and smoke pot all day long;along with other drugs They tell of domestic violence among the illegals and of people having sex on the stairwells. Trash is left all over the place and fights break out between illegals and security personnel.

NYC is paying$400-$500 a night to house them ,


So that’s costing New York City an estimated $1 million-$1.37 million a day. That’s $365 million-$500 million a year.....While not revealing specifics, Adams has requested $1 billion from the feds.
Here's a taste of what Biden's open-border policies cost local taxpayers across America (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2023/01/11/heres-a-taste-of-what-bidens-open-border-policies-cost-local-taxpayers-across-america/)

This is the same bunch of loons (NYC city gov) that has been appealing to the feds for funding to help with this situation.

Clueless went down to Mexico ;he was looking to make a deal.

Did he succeed ? What do you think ?

US and Mexican cabinet officials ran out of time before discussing migration in a formal meeting in Mexico City on Monday, according to people familiar with the matter, leaving a major issue between the countries largely unaddressed.

Migration Gets Short Shrift at Biden-AMLO Summit After Border Visit (yahoo.com) (https://news.yahoo.com/migration-gets-short-shrift-biden-203800926.html)

Let that sink in . They ran out of time to discuss the most important issue between the 2 nations .

He warned us when he told us he had more important things to do.

After you discuss the highly important issue of pronoun usage, there is only so much time left.

NYC Mayor Adams says there is no room at the Inn

The mayor of New York traveled to the Mexican border city of El Paso on Sunday and declared that "there is no room in New York" for busloads of migrants being sent to America's most populous city.
Eric Adams, a Democrat, was also critical of the administration of Democratic U.S. President Joe Biden, saying "now is the time for the national government to do its job" about the immigrant crisis at America's southern border.


New York Mayor says "no room" in his city for migrants | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-mayor-says-no-room-his-city-migrants-2023-01-16/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Daily-Briefing&utm_term=011623)

The ultimate NIMBY

NYC is a sanctuary city . So send those illegal aliens some place else.

Declare yourself a sanctuary city, and then complain about being flooded with illegals? Strange.

There are at least a half million illegals in the city now . They have municipal identification programs where illegals can get; regardless of status, identification so that they can access various freebee social programs and open bank accounts(and maybe voter ID ????) .

About - IDNYC (https://www.nyc.gov/site/idnyc/about/about.page#:~:text=IDNYC%20is%20a%20card%20for,pro grams%20offered%20by%20the%20City.)

At least one board of elections Dem;secretly recorded ; accused Sandinista Bill of distributing these cards for all types of benefits ;including voting

So what happens when an illegal gets sent to NYC but then realizes that a sanctuary city is not the Emerald City of their dreams ?

Mayor Adams has taken a page from the DeSantis /Abbott playbook . He is loading them up on buses and moving them to Canada .



Mayor Eric Adams’ administration pays various companies that run programs for migrants that include “re-ticketing” so they can travel to other cities, a City Hall source said.
Various nonprofits, including Catholic Charities, also help migrants who want to flee Gotham, the source said.

Migrants abandon NYC for Canada with taxpayer-funded bus tickets (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2023/02/05/migrants-abandon-nyc-for-canada-with-taxpayer-funded-bus-tickets/)

word has spread among the migrant community that Canada — where Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has touted the country’s “proud and longstanding tradition of welcoming people seeking safety” — is the place to go.


Getting booted out of luxury hotels they were being housed in at the expense of NYC taxpayers was not making them happy .

Migrants Refuse to Leave NYC Hotel, Denounce Being Treated Like 'Dogs' (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/migrants-refuse-leave-new-york-hotel-denounce-being-treated-like-dogs-interview-1777670)

“I am going to Canada for a better quality of life for my family.”
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Mucha nieve !;mucho frio ! They aren't saying mucho oso yet . But that is coming .


So much for that idea .Many of the illegals that Mayor Adams sent to Canada are returning to NYC .Ilze Thielmann, the director of non-profit Team TLC said ;
"They think that there are all these jobs up there. They think they’re going to be able to get asylum very easily up there and that’s just not the case" .

Why some migrants turn around and head back to NYC after free bus ride to near Canadian border | CBC News (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/migrants-new-york-city-canada-roxham-1.6740282)

The grass is always greener on the other side of the border .

The buses from NYC loaded with illegals goes to the Roxham Rd. It is a 5 mile rural road that starts in Champlain, New York and ends in Bogton, in the municipality of Saint-Bernard-de-Lacolle, Quebec, Canada. They walk the distance and cross the Canadian border illegally . This is a mini-version of the human trafficking that the Mexican cartels do . But in this case it is state sanctioned . Last year about 40,000 illegals crossed into Canada this way.

Adams says that all he is doing is 'helping in the re-ticketing process'

Transcript: Mayor Eric Adams Appears Live on Fox 5's "Good Day New York" | City of New York (nyc.gov) (https://www.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/093-23/transcript-mayor-eric-adams-appears-live-fox-5-s-good-day-new-york-)

Spoken like the pr guy from the cartels .

Trump's ideas are looking better and better every day.

Update

for those paying attention Title 42 ends in 2 days.

We are days away from a massive invasion of our southern border . We have completely lost control of our border .The cartels control both sides of it . They are telling the invaders that with the end of Title 42 covid restrictions the US is now an open border nation and that the US will provide for their every need once they cross over. Hordes of invaders are waiting to sack America.

Clueless Joe ordered 1500 troops to the border. That is clearly not enough . But not only that . They will not be involved in stopping the invasion . They will be there to assist in the process of making the invaders legal .

Slavery was made illegal in the US in 1865 ? WRONG

The new euphemism for it is 'Human Trafficking and the slave trade is alive and flourishing in the US . Child illegal immigrants are smuggled across the border and they are willingly transferred to people who put them into labor and sex slave status .

The compliant press shills for the administration Here is Time take



There’s very little a homeland security secretary or an American President can do to reverse human migration patterns predominantly caused by climate change, new storm patterns, rampant violence and economic need. U.S. immigration laws, which could create orderly entry points for migrants to register and work and live in the U.S., are poorly designed to do so, and haven’t been updated in three decades.

Lie after lie after lie. Those may be minor factors but the real problem is Clueless Joe and his homeland security secretary, Alejandro Mayorkas.

Dem Rep. Sharice Davids of Kansas wrote to Mayorkas.


You have had a year to engage prior to the lifting of Title 42, and I hope that you and the President both recommit to working with Congress to achieve real results,” Davids continued.

In March 2022, the Biden Administration warned of increased migration flows immediately following the end of Title 42, but in the last year, the Administration has taken no action to find a comprehensive, bipartisan solution. Now, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is preparing for as many as 10,000 migrants to cross the southern border each day after the order ends, which would almost double the daily average from this past March.


Davids Pushes Biden Administration to Recommit to Bipartisan Immigration Reform | Representative Sharice Davids (house.gov) (https://davids.house.gov/media/press-releases/davids-pushes-biden-administration-recommit-bipartisan-immigration-reform)

I don't know why the administration has not acted . Polls show it as a negative for the President . The only conclusion I can draw is that he wants this invasion to happen.

The invasion that is coming today is the beginning of the fulfilment of George Soros' open borders dream. He has dedicated 3 decades and billions of dollars to this effort .

He believes that there is the need to end America as the world's preeminent power. He has been coveting the day when a weakened United States can be at the mercy of international institutions.
He sees himself as a global citizen . He has called national soverignty anachonistic.

America in the Global Community: Building Long-Term Security (state.gov) (https://2001-2009.state.gov/s/p/of/proc/24381.htm)

"the principle of sovereignty stands in the way of outside intervention in the internal affairs of nation-states."

The People’s Sovereignty – Foreign Policy (https://foreignpolicy.com/2009/10/28/the-peoples-sovereignty/)

We are well on the way. Common customs ,language ,traditions are essential to national unity . The hordes of illegals do not share our traditions beliefs and in many cases are not coming to adopt them .Democracy, freedom of speech , religion, and individual rights are rejected, forbidden, and severely punished in many of the cultures of the people in the wave. Many are brining in disease long eradicated in the US . How far have we come from the days when there were immigration bans on criminals, people with contagious diseases, polygamists, anarchists, beggars, and importers of prostitutes.....or even the 1965 liberal reforms designed for the acceptance of immigrants for family unification and for skilled workers .

How U.S. immigration laws and rules have changed through history | Pew Research Center (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/09/30/how-u-s-immigration-laws-and-rules-have-changed-through-history/)

6 million illegals in 1986 was a crisis. We got over 2.7 million illegal border crossers last year alone. And that during Title 42 restrictions .

Say goodby USA . It was nice to know ya.




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What a sad situation. No wonder they hated Trump and his MAGA ideas.

Be prepared in the next hour or so to see riotous bum rushing to the border .

Migrant detentions at U.S.-Mexico border hit record highs as Title 42 ends | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/spike-us-mexico-border-crossings-fuels-political-tensions-title-42-ends-2023-05-11/)

Tuesday the Chief Executive in charge of the safety of the nation said of the end of Title 42 that the border would be "chaotic" for a while.

.Biden: US-Mexico border will be 'chaotic for a while' | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/us-immigration-title-42-military-66adfec2d9c25120dd058a8d582ddcd1)

So how are the laws being enforced now that the covid restriction ended ?

The head of border security Sec Mayorkas told the invaders massing on the border for the bum rush ; don't believe your lying eyes; the border is not open .

Mayorkas marks end of Title 42 with a warning for migrants: ‘The border is not open’ | The Hill (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4001107-mayorkas-marks-end-of-title-42-with-a-warning-for-migrants-the-border-is-not-open/)

But the invasion preceded the end of the restrictions .


Illegal border crossings have topped 10,000 per day this week, the highest levels ever, as the Title 42 border policy expired at 11:59 p.m. Thursday. Thousands of migrants forded the Rio Grande into the Brownsville, Tex., area, or arrived elsewhere, including more than 800 miles away on the dusty strip of U.S. land between the riverbanks and the border wall east of downtown El Paso.


U.S. sees record migration influx as pandemic border restrictions lift (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-sees-record-migration-influx-as-pandemic-border-restrictions-lift/ar-AA1b40eO)

That is the equivalent of the population of a small US city EVERY DAY ;a major city every week !

) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-sees-record-migration-influx-as-pandemic-border-restrictions-lift/ar-AA1b40eO)That is the equivalent of the population of a small US city EVERY DAY ;a major city every week !
Lotsa room in Texas and Oklahoma. Kansas too.

So now you are going to offer whole sections of states to illegal invaders . Who's property you going to steal ?.Where is the vital resources like water going to come from ? The High Plains and Ogallala aquifer are already dangerously low. The region cannot sustain large populations .

The progressive libs running the sanctuary cities have the same chorus every time someone suggests that they should help absorb the illegal hordes. "We need help with more Washington "resources " ( a euphemism for money )

Why do they want in?

There is a legal process that needs a leader to enforce it .

The US has been historically the most open country on the planet and would continue to be if the laws of the land were enforced. 10,000 a day will overwhelm the American's people's means to absorb them . Already we know the hypocrite rich Dems on Martha's Vineyard evicted all the illegals that were sent there from
Texas in less than a day after they arrived .

It is not about immigration . This is the Dems continuing to execute the Cloward -Piven strategy to destroy the nation. They proposed taking advantage of the spirit of American generosity to crash our economy. The idea was to create a never ending demand for social services until the money ran out and a new Marxist system of government that would “equitably” distribute the nations’ wealth would be implemented .

Why are they coming ? For the promise of free stuff .

One of the biggest reasons for the increase in migration is the number of failed and authoritarian states in the Western Hemisphere. Struggling economies worsened by the coronavirus pandemic, humanitarian crises and political upheaval have sent people fleeing their homes for a safer and more stable life in the United States.

For many migrants, including those from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela, the situation is so desperate that the risk of making the dangerous journey and potentially being turned away by U.S. officials is preferable to continuing to live in dire conditions.

“Failing states across the Western Hemisphere is the disease,” said Jason Houser, a former top immigration official in the Biden administration. “The flow of migrants to the border, overwhelming our agencies, is the symptom.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/10/us/politics/title-42-border-history-immigration.html

I don't think they would make the trip in most cases if they need the door was not open to just anyone who just decided he/she needed to walk across the border and get a job, start a life, have a baby with guaranteed citizenship, sell illegal drugs, steal the property of others, or traffic human beings for sex. That is why whatever the motive is, the process must be still be done legally. And that is especially true considering that fentanyl is now the leading cause of death for young adults.

They are promised freebees . They all say so. The promise of free money, free food, free education, and free medical care , direct financial transfers, medical benefits, food assistance, and education is a powerful incentive .

It's funny to me how people want the country to have an open door to anyone/everyone, but they don't do that with their own homes. Wonder why not?

Would you go to their homes?

If they invited me, then I would LEGALLY go. I would not, however, force open their front doors. And I don't even know why we are discussing this. When a nation refuses to police and control entry, then it's hard to know how to react to that. Why don't we just open the airways while we're at it? Passport?? Not needed to enter the U.S.!!

Mayor Adams of NYC has made it clear that the illegal border crossing hordes are not welcome in his city . He is putting them on busses and shipping them upstate.

First buses of asylum seekers arrive in Orange County, as NYC says it's out of options - CBS New York (cbsnews.com) (https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/1st-bus-of-asylum-seekers-arrives-in-orange-county-as-nyc-says-its-out-of-options/)

The first busload went to Newburg ; a city with plenty of problems of it's own.

Look At Some of Newburgh, New York's Roughest Streets (wrrv.com) (https://wrrv.com/look-at-some-of-newburgh-new-yorks-roughest-streets/)

More than 25% of the people in the city live below the poverty rate.


Homeless vets are being evicted from the hotels they have been housed in to make way for the invaders.

Homeless veterans booted from upstate hotel to make room for migrants arriving after Title 42 ended (nytodaynew.com) (https://nytodaynew.com/homeless-veterans-booted-from-upstate-hotel-to-make-room-for-migrants-arriving-after-title-42-ended/)

County Executives upstate are declaring an emergency.

Adams has resorted to name calling the Rockland County Exec a racist for his opposition. Disclaimer ;I lived in Rockland most of my adult life before relocating after retirement . The county is one of the most diverse counties in the nation. (ranked 3rd in NY after NYC counties )

Most Diverse Counties in New York | Stacker (https://stacker.com/new-york/most-diverse-counties-new-york)

Even among the white population is a large sub-group of Orthodox and Hasidic Jews . Rockland has the highest per capita Jewish population in the nation. In the neighborhoods I lived Whites ;Jews ,Hispanics ,Blacks ,Haitian immigrants all lived side by side.
There is no way the county would tolerate a racist Exec.


Currently a judge issued a restraining order preventing Adams from sending the illegals to Rockland . Adams said Thursday the city would not be deterred by legal challenges. That about says it all about Adams .

NYC Mayor Eric Adams labels county exec who blocked asylum seekers as ‘racist’ and ‘antisemitic’ | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nyc-mayor-eric-adams-labels-county-exec-who-blocked-asylum-seekers-racist-antisemitic)

If I didn't know better, I'd say we are watching a soap opera. How can democrats continue to defend this insanity? I have said many times that I am no fan of Trump, but his idea to build a wall along at least MOST of the border was a great one. It's the only solution.

Every wall built so far has been scaled (even by teenagers!) or burrowed under. Or avoided by traveling to either end. And what about the masses pressing against the wall on the Mexican side?

People entering illegally are entering in areas where there is no wall. Hmmm. What does that tell us? To suggest that walls are useless is simply childish.

Walls don't stop illegal immigration, but they do slow it down greatly to a manageable point unlike the craziness of the actions of the Biden admin.

I repeat (minus an insult to your intelligence as you gave to mine):

Every wall built so far has been scaled (even by teenagers!) or burrowed under. Or avoided by traveling to either end. And what about the masses pressing against the wall on the Mexican side?

1. How do you know that "every wall built so far has been scaled or burrowed under"?
2. If they travel "to the other end", then that means the wall needs to be lengthened.
3. The masses will not press against a wall. Show me pics of that happening.
4. Since you seem not to have read this the first time, I'll post it again. "Walls don't stop illegal immigration, but they do slow it down greatly to a manageable point."

People put fences and walls around their houses. It doesn't make a burglary impossible, but it makes it much more unlikely. Nothing is 100% reliable. To suggest we not use these ideas because they are not 100% effective is, I'm sorry to say again, childish. I think you realize that is true. I'm not questioning your intelligence. I'm actually suggesting you put your considerable intelligence to better use.

Every wall built so far has been scaled (even by teenagers!) or burrowed under. Or avoided by traveling to either end. And what about the masses pressing against the wall on the Mexican side?

Tell that to the East Berliners . Yeah some crossed over . It prevented many more from leaving ,

1. How do you know that "every wall built so far has been scaled or burrowed under"?
Please read your history book. Even the Berlin Wall and Great Wall of China have been scaled.

2. If they travel "to the other end", then that means the wall needs to be lengthened.
Into the ocean.

3. The masses will not press against a wall. Show me pics of that happening.
Photos are in my morning newspaper every day.

4. Since you seem not to have read this the first time, I'll post it again. "Walls don't stop illegal immigration, but they do slow it down greatly to a manageable point."
As rhe masses grow on the Mexico side and press harder and harder against each other and the wall.

People put fences and walls around their houses. It doesn't make a burglary impossible, but it makes it much more unlikely. Nothing is 100% reliable. To suggest we not use these ideas because they are not 100% effective is, I'm sorry to say again, childish. I think you realize that is true. I'm not questioning your intelligence. I'm actually suggesting you put your considerable intelligence to better use.
I'm in Mensa. Don't mess with me. And stop double-dipping.

If all that is true, why didn't Trump finish the wall?

Your argument basically goes like this. We shouldn't put locking vaults in banks since, after all, thieves manage to defeat the locks and enter the vaults from time to time. Since they are not 100% reliable, then we should just store the money on top of cabinets. The two arguments (yours about the wall and that one about vaults) equally make no sense. To appeal to the Great Wall of China and the Berlin Wall is kind of bizarre on your part since both were great successes for their intended purposes. If a "Great Southern Wall" for us would work as well as those two, our illegal immigration problems would be over.

The masses on the Mexican side are not pressing against the wall. If you had any pics of that, you would post them. To suggest that they would gather en masse and just push the wall over also makes no sense at all.

Trump did not complete all the wall because the Acme Border Wall Company did not just happen to have 1500 miles of wall already in stock and ready to install. [SARC] It takes time to do a project that large, and he only had two years to do it. How much did Biden install? For that matter, how does Biden seem to be doing?

One time Bill Clinton had it right.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/3494168164151898

We need more immigration offices and employees plus social workers and counselors at the southern border, which means more housing, eateries, bathrooms. As I posted earlier, too many Western Hemisphere countries aren't fit to live in right now. That's why people have left them, in hopes of finding a better life in the U.S. (and Canada?). We need a plan to help the immigrants to blend in with us, just as we did the Vietnamese after the Tet Offensive. (And yes, I helped with that in my town.) Trouble is, covid has turned life upside down. Social life has drastically changed. Social isolation (now that we've lost our rudders, we socialize mostly digitally) is predominant. Week magazine this week has an interesting article about that.

Border Patrol agents in the San Diego sector arrested an Afghan national on the FBI’s terror watchlist after he crossed illegally with a group of invaders near Otay Mesa, CA on Wednesday. How many terrorist are crossing and not being caught ?

Afghan on terrorist watchlist arrested at U.S.-Mexico border crossing in San Diego | cbs8.com (https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/investigations/beyond-the-border/terrorist-arrested-at-us-mexico-border-crossing-in-san-diego/509-2db0f675-676a-403d-a396-8bb80749f441)

A few thousand a year MIGHT be able to tunnel under/climb over a border wall, so let's instead choose to just open it up to HUNDREDS of thousands coming across.

Make sense???

We have lost "operational control " on both sides of the border . The US border is in the control of the cartels . The law enforcement as it is functions as a welcome committee to the hordes of invaders.

U.S. officials admit losing ‘operational control’ of border, drug cartels poised to seize it | Just The News (https://justthenews.com/government/security/us-officials-admit-they-lost-operational-control-border-and-drug-cartels-poised)

Security footage shows a Nati.onal Guard member from Missouri opening a gate at the border ;onto private property , to allow invaders to enter .

US soldier appears to let migrants onto private Texas property (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2023/05/16/us-soldier-appears-to-let-migrants-onto-private-texas-property/)

Here’s how the government can improve processing immigrants

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A group of nuns distribute food to migrants resting along the train tracks in Huehuetoca, Mexico, as they look to board a freight train heading north on May 12, the day after U.S. pandemic-related asylum restrictions called Title 42 were lifted. Marco Ugarte/AP


BY SHELDON JACOBSON
Title 42 was implemented as a public health measure during the COVID-19 pandemic. With the health emergency ending, the rule has now expired. This means that those coming to the borders seeking asylum may no longer be turned away. What the federal government did and what it should have done are two different things.

Title 42 delayed the need for Congress to tackle long overdue immigration reform. That delay no longer applies, with borders to Mexico in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas ripe for large influxes of people seeking entry and asylum.

As much as many Americans are dissatisfied with the current political, social and economic affairs in our nation, the interest in people entering our country and becoming permanent residents is enormous. The United States continues to offer opportunities for success, provided one is willing to work hard and put in the time, which most immigrants are prepared to do. That is why every day, more than 4,000 people on average immigrated to the United States in 2021, with more than one-half coming from Mexico.

Numerous industries rely on immigrants to fill their workforces and cover a wide range of job skills.

Setting immigration policies is challenging. Anytime there are multiple stakeholders with divergent interests, there is no path forward to satisfy everyone. At one extreme are those who want to protect the borders against immigrants who allegedly will take jobs away from citizens and use public resources. At the other extreme are those who want to offer all those oppressed and under attack in other countries the opportunity to find success in the U.S. and a path to citizenship.

Independent of what policy is instituted, the short-term challenge is processing thousands of people each week to determine their eligibility for entering the U.S. and gaining permanent residency.

Lessons learned from airport security can be applied to vetting people at border crossings:
Transparency and standardization: No matter what immigration policy is used, it is critical that the people being vetted have appropriate documentation to establish where they are coming from and what their current citizenship is. Without such information, it is impossible to implement any policy in a fair and equitable manner.

Providing standardized requirements for every possible immigrant long before they ever get to the border is critical. Without widespread communication campaigns throughout Latin America, immigration officers are handcuffed in doing their jobs. This would be like Transportation Security Administration officers not being able to protect the air system if they are focused on sorting through the identity verification materials presented by every traveler and assessing which will be accepted.

Layered processing: Create multiple layers to vet immigrants, with each layer providing independent information to facilitate processing. An online system is a step to facilitate this. The key is consistency, which means that if people show up without having registered, authorities could provide computer network facilities for them to register, all in their language of choice, with ample assistance available. Only those registered should be processed. Once rules are broken and standardization is compromised, it becomes impossible to maintain order at the borders.

This is why TSA officers at airports are interchangeable at any commercial airport across the United States. They follow a standardized process that travelers know will be followed, no matter which airport they are flying out of.

Foster trust: Once standardized procedures are in place, demonstrate to all immigrants seeking asylum that they are in the system and under consideration. Using simple queuing theory results, such as Little’s law, will provide a reasonable estimate for how long each immigrant’s application will take to be processed. At the same time, immigration officers must be deployed based on anticipated arrival rates for applicants. Once the system is viewed as broken and untrustworthy, people panic and begin to ignore system protocols, creating chaos that benefits no one.

Immigration reform is critical to ensure that the people who enter the country are given the best opportunity to succeed. Creating a transparent and standardized system, with multiple layers that can be trusted, is critical to processing the thousands of people seeking asylum in the country. If the TSA can screen 2 million passengers every day, perhaps immigration officers can be equally effective with the thousands applying for entry and asylum in a post-Title 42 environment.

Sheldon Jacobson is a professor of computer science at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. He applies his expertise in data-driven risk-based decision-making to evaluate and inform public policy. He has studied aviation security for more than 25 years, providing the technical foundations for risk-based security that informed the design of TSA Precheck.

The United States continues to offer opportunities for success, provided one is willing to work hard and put in the time, which most immigrants are prepared to do.Makes me wonder why we don't on insist on that from the people already here.

They're working at fast-food places in Chicago and suburbs. In hospitals too and nursing homes. I connected with two immigrant women who worked as custodians at a healthcare rehab I was at recently. They giggled as they taught me some Spanish.

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Well, at least they're not having to go to the trouble of tunneling underneath the wall. Of course in many areas there is no wall to begin with. How understanding of our fed government.

Illinois will have a new law come 2024 that prohibits landlords from discriminating against illegal aliens .