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tomder55
Jun 4, 2022, 11:16 AM
The button was Gerald Ford's answer to the inflation problems of the early 1970s.

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He had no answers so he basically begged people to stop spending to reduce demand .

Clueless misreads the cause of inflation so he cannot come up with a policy that deals with it . He thinks that the cause of the inflation is pandemic related supply chain issues exasperated by the war he helped provoke in Ukraine . His plan is to trust the one man who's policies made the greatest contribution to the current inflationary cycle ;Fed Chair Jerome Powell.
The plan is to raise interest rates high enough and fast enough to tame inflation. Best guess that will mean double digit rates of interest rates . This in his estimation will cool inflation without tanking the economy . Good luck with that . That elusive Goldilock scenario.... not to hot ;not too cold soft landing rarely if ever achieved .

Meanwhile the real cause of the inflation ;printing monopoly money to fund out of control government spending ;like the $1.9 trillion American rescue Plan goes unaddressed . It was Powell who reacted late to inflation .It was Powell who told the country that inflation was transitory . He was wrong .And yet he was renominated and confirmed for another term as Fed Chair .
So Clueless called in his recent op-ed for even more government spending of money we don't have . In the same op-ed he talked of deficit reduction to reduce price pressures . He claims credit for winding down spending of programs like Build Brandon Better even though the only reason they are winding down is because of mandates built into the bill. He claims credit for increases in tax receipts wiithout saying that inflation is pushing the average American into higher tax brackets . That also will be temporary because as the Fed's solutions drag economic growth to a halt ;and almost assuredly leads to recession ,the windfall tax receipts will rapidly dry up.

jlisenbe
Jun 4, 2022, 07:45 PM
He thinks that the cause of the inflation is pandemic related supply chain issues exasperated by the war he helped provoke in Ukraine .I'm not convinced he believes that at all. I think it's just a diversion.


Meanwhile the real cause of the inflation ;printing monopoly money to fund out of control government spending ;like the $1.9 trillion American rescue Plan goes unaddressed .Absolutely true, and you cannot get very many people interested in talking about it. With the demise of the three or four other libs on this board, the one that is left says nothing about it. One of the disappeared libs once said that it didn't bother him that it would be a disaster for his children and grandchildren since, after all, every generation has its problems to deal with. Amazing.

tomder55
Jun 8, 2022, 04:12 AM
Our parents left us a great nation. I can't say the same for us.

Treasury Sec .Janet Yellen is supposed to be one of the adults in the room . She is on the talk circuit defending the over-spending done to address the pandemic . She says it is impossible for us to insulate ourselves from soaring gas prices . She and the world bank say we are in an inflationary cycle for a long haul . She calls inflation unacceptable but offers no solutions and doesn't recognize her agencies role in the cause .
But hey ; she put up the LGBTQ++xyz flag up at Treasury .
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FURNCvOWUAo7LeU?format=jpg&name=medium

Glad she has her finger on the pulse of what is important !......well that and this
Janet Yellen, Biden’s Treasury pick, made over $7M in speaking fees (usatoday.com) (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/01/janet-yellen-bidens-treasury-pick-made-over-7-m-speaking-fees/4108800001/)

tomder55
Jun 8, 2022, 06:07 AM
I am having nostalgia for Peppermint Patty Psaki . I never thought someone could do a worse job . But Karine Jean-Pierre (KJP ) has managed it .

“What we’re trying to say, what I’m trying to say to you, is that the economy is in a better place than it has been historically,”

Press Briefing by Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre and Matthew McConaughey | The White House (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2022/06/07/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-and-matthew-mcconaughey/)

of course Clueless doesn't give her much to work with. She struggled trying to explain why he invoked the Defense Production Act to bypass sanctions on the import of Chinese Solar panels .I'm wondering how much Hunter Biden's deals with Chinese energy companies plays into invoking an act that is supposed to address national emergencies . I cannot find the emergency in any possible shortages of Chinese solar panels .

jlisenbe
Jun 8, 2022, 07:20 AM
“What we’re trying to say, what I’m trying to say to you, is that the economy is in a better place than it has been historically,”She must also believe in a literal Easter bunny. It's just breath-taking how liberal dems can lie so blatantly, knowing that the ever compliant press will have their backs. We can only hope for a great Christian revival that will genuinely change hearts and minds to the place of appreciating honesty.

tomder55
Jun 10, 2022, 01:45 PM
The folly of the US energy policy is in full display as prices at the pump rapidly increase going into the summer vacation season. By the end of the weekend the global price of oil will skyrocket to @120/bb + . How much higher can they go ? The sky is the limit. Demand coming out of the pandemic and prices are subject to silly stuff like capital restrictions ; government policy or myu favorite new insanity ESG metrics ( Environmental, Social, and Governance).

Available refineries are maxed out in the US where our brainiacs have not approved a new refinery since 1977. Refineries in Russia are going off line over the war .

Higher demand ..... less supply . You can invoke as many emergency executive actions and declarations as you like and that fact will not change.
Gas prices are up over 50% in the U.S. over the past year and 88% in Europe. Consumers cannot keep assuming the burden. We are headed to a full out recession .

Wondergirl
Jun 10, 2022, 02:57 PM
We are headed to a full out recession .
What do you suggest?

tomder55
Jun 10, 2022, 03:06 PM
the damage is already done . The way out is to raise interest rates above the rate of inflation , force a recession to cool down demand .Then when everything is stabilized ; control spending !! reduce the deficit . This is ,mostly a fiscal policy recession and a foolish energy policy where utopians think we can ride carbon free unicorns .

At this point
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESNDawTVAAACv2h?format=jpg&name=small

jlisenbe
Jun 10, 2022, 03:28 PM
.Then when everything is stabilized ; control spending !! reduce the deficit . This is ,mostly a fiscal policy recession and a foolish energy policy where utopians think we can ride carbon free unicorns .Neither party has shown much inclination to control spending. The past 50 years or so have been a politicians dreamland. Spend, spend, spend without having to raise taxes. Now we find ourselves more than 30 tril in debt and facing high inflation. It's just been incredible that we Americans have been so dumb to allow this to happen, but then we also believe that there are dozens of genders and that two people of the same sex can be married, so I guess it shouldn't be surprising.

And right on cue, we get this. Budget deficits? Well, we have an easy solution for that. Cut taxes!!


Democratic senator from New Hampshire who faces difficult reelection puts daylight between herself and President Biden. Hassan says it’s ‘frustrating’ Biden administration hasn’t supported push to temporarily scrap federal gas tax.

Wondergirl
Jun 10, 2022, 03:32 PM
there are dozens of genders and that two people of the same sex can be married, so I guess it shouldn't be surprising.

And that affects you how?

jlisenbe
Jun 10, 2022, 04:58 PM
I didn’t say it affected me. My point was that many of us will now believe anything no matter how preposterous it might be.

Wondergirl
Jun 10, 2022, 05:27 PM
I didn’t say it affected me. My point was that many of us will now believe anything no matter how preposterous it might be.
Yet one cannot ignore the science....

jlisenbe
Jun 10, 2022, 06:22 PM
That is true. The science is very clear that there are two genders. XX and XY chromosomes determine that very plainly.

Wondergirl
Jun 10, 2022, 06:42 PM
That is true. The science is very clear that there are two genders. XX and XY chromosomes determine that very plainly.
Nope, that's no longer the science. Science has made new discoveries in this 21st century, discoveries like science tends to make.

jlisenbe
Jun 10, 2022, 06:49 PM
Yeah. Discoveries concerning which no one has heard.

Wondergirl
Jun 10, 2022, 06:56 PM
Yeah. Discoveries concerning which no one has heard.
Of course they are published. Google or visit your local public library.

jlisenbe
Jun 10, 2022, 07:01 PM
Once again you have no clue and must count on someone else to hopefully bail you out. You have become sadly and utterly predictable.

tomder55
Jun 10, 2022, 07:07 PM
omg !

Wondergirl
Jun 10, 2022, 07:18 PM
Once again you have no clue and must count on someone else to hopefully bail you out. You have become sadly and utterly predictable.
You're looking in the mirror when you say that. If I lived near you, I'd toss you into my car and drive you to your library and show you how to find the science.

jlisenbe
Jun 10, 2022, 08:07 PM
show you how to find the science.You mean like you've done the past couple of hours? Come on. You just don't know. No one even remotely familiar with the science would deny that sex chromosomes determine gender. It's like trying to suggest that the moon is made of cheese. I have to tell you that it gets old having to argue basic biology with someone who doubtless understands libraries well but who knows but little about life science.

tomder55
Jun 11, 2022, 02:26 AM
another discussion hijacked by the transformer debate . This is getting old

jlisenbe
Jun 11, 2022, 05:16 AM
This chart does not reflect food prices and does not show that inflation is running at 8% annually and likely higher than that in all reality. It's a cruel tax on the poor that the liberal dems are unconcerned about. A November red wave cannot come too soon.

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jlisenbe
Jun 11, 2022, 09:43 AM
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tomder55
Jun 11, 2022, 01:16 PM
Sen Debbie Stabenback had her 'let them eat cake' moment or rather 'let them buy Bolt ' moment . While debating gas prices in the Senate she bragged that gas priced doesn't concern her because she has an EV .
'On the issue of gas prices – after waiting for a long time to have enough chips in this country to finally get my electric vehicle – I got it and drove it from Michigan to here this last weekend and went by every gas station and it didn't matter how high it was,'
She urged ALL Americans to buy EVs to decrease reliability on greedy oil companies.The average price of an EV today is $55-$60 thousand dollars
As she was snickering as she drove past gas stations she may have been passed by many truckers delivering goods that Americans need . Maybe the parts for her Bolt was delivered by a trucker . Trucks run on diesel .The current average diesel price is $5.765/gal . Truckers are routinely paying more that $1000 per fill up . All this gets passed onto the squeezed consumer who she wants to purchase expensive EVS Back in 1980 the mean salary for truckers was $110 thousand . Adjusted for inflation today's truckers are in the $50 thousand range .New truckers and independent truckers earn even less.

Stabenback never bothered to mention how much time she spent finding charging ports and how much time she spent charging her Bolt from Michigan to DC .

Rachel Wolfe of the WSJ decided to test it by driving from New Orleans to Chi-town and back. That's a 2000 mile trip and she gave herself a leisurely 4 days to do it .EV batteries need a recharge every 300 miles . Stations that have fast charges (not all of them do) can do a charge in about a half hour . That would be a bathroom break and a meal every 300 miles . Slower charging can last up to 8 hrs So plan those for the overnight Right ? But most charging stations in the US have slow chargers . And for the record ;charging is NOT free.
I Rented an Electric Car for a Four-Day Road Trip. I Spent More Time Charging It Than I Did Sleeping. - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-rented-an-electric-car-for-a-four-day-road-trip-i-spent-more-time-charging-it-than-i-did-sleeping-11654268401)

jlisenbe
Jun 11, 2022, 02:08 PM
I spoke with a liberal dem several days ago about gas prices. His view was that he was glad to see prices going up because it would benefit climate change. When I told him that inflation was a cruel tax for poor people in particular, it moved him not one inch. It's why I am convinced that most lib dems really don't care about poor people.

As to the Wolfe, he actually came through my hometown and went to the Kia dealership that was supposed to have a fast charger. He said that initially no one had any idea where the charger was, but they finally found it and, of course, it took much longer than advertised.

Diesel prices should concern everyone because it drives up the price of about everything, which once again is a huge problem for poor people.

tomder55
Jun 13, 2022, 04:12 AM
remember the good ole days when inflation was transitory ? remember when inflation peaked months ago ? Better oil the wheels of the wheel barrel . We are heading towards Weimar Republic . Thankfully the Dems can't completely force their agenda. They wanted to print trillions of $ more . How will we service the debt if rates go where the Fed needs to take them to beat inflation ?

jlisenbe
Jun 15, 2022, 04:41 AM
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jlisenbe
Jun 16, 2022, 05:14 AM
Tom, what do you think is driving this present inflation? It does seem to be a worldwide problem and is no doubt driven somewhat by soaring oil prices, so what seems to be unique to the situation in the U.S.?

tomder55
Jun 16, 2022, 09:16 AM
The fundamental error by all nations made during the pandemic was that there would be a demand problem. Central banks around the world did a Keynesian demand side stimulus that amounted to $trillion of cheap monopoly money . In reality what happened was a supply side shortage. People were paid to not work .But they had nothing to spend it on ,In many cases they were locked down and the only spending that was going on was Amazon purchases .

inflation is too much money chasing too few goods . This is called Cost -Push inflation .China is still to a degree in lockdown . Goods that come here are slow walking to retail because of mismanagement and politics .

Gas ? Same deal . When people were locked down the price dropped to below $2 at it's low . Then when people were freed from lock down ,they took to the road . That alone would have created increases . But the perfect storm happened . Demand for gas increased as Clueless started to knee cap supply . Supply took a hit again with the Ukraine war (Putin is loving the prices ;and Europe is almost ready to call it off and force a settlement before winter ).

The Fed was slow to react and even up to yesterday was getting it wrong. The hike announced yesterday is welcome news . But it is too little too late .

Loose money is still the instinct of this Fed and this administration. The way to fix it would've been to get interest rates above the rate of inflation last year . Powell can deny it all he wants to ;but the only remedy to suppress demand is to force us into recession .
I don't say this lightly . What I have seen on almost no income is prices going up and the value of my portfolio drop by over 10% this year . My head in the sand financial advisor promises a turn around in the 3rd and 4th qtr . I laugh ;say I hope he is right ..... BUT let's say we survive Christmas season without a recession I am sure we will be in a full scale recession by 1st qtr next year .

Clueless still thinks monopoly money gimmees is the trick. He rails against Repub obstruction of his socialist dystopia .

jlisenbe
Jun 16, 2022, 02:10 PM
The White House has it all figured out.


White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre (https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/white-house-shifts-blaming-putin-oil-companies-high-gas-prices-patriots) shot down calls to increase oil drilling in the U.S. Thursday, saying the country doesn't need it.
Jean-Pierre made the comments in response to questions from Fox News White House correspondent Peter Doocy. Doocy pressed Jean Pierre to explain why President Biden's administration is seeking to alleviate skyrocketing gas prices by calling on oil companies (https://www.foxbusiness.com/category/oil) to increase productivity at refineries instead of calling for more drilling.
Jean-Pierre argued that oil companies cut refinery capacity at the outset of the COVID-19 pandemic and have yet to increase that capacity back to pre-pandemic levels. Biden argues this, combined with Russia's invasion of Ukraine, is causing the increase in gas prices (https://www.foxbusiness.com/category/inflation).
"Why not just drill more here in the U.S., though?" Doocy asked.
"Because we don't need to do that," Jean-Pierre responded. "What we need [oil companies] to do is, with the oil that's out there, we need them to refine that oil so that the capacity can go up and that prices would go down."


Now if she's right about refining capacity, then perhaps that's a valid point. The question of her being right is difficult to answer.

jlisenbe
Jun 16, 2022, 02:15 PM
It would seem not to be right.


Though oil refinery productivity in the United States has been improving, the number of operating refineries has been dropping steadily. In 1982, the earliest year for which the Energy Information Administration has data, there were 301 operable refineries (http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/8_na_8o0_nus_ca.htm) in the U.S., and they produced (http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/8_na_8d0_nus_4a.htm) about 17.9 million barrels of oil per day. Today there are only 149 refineries, but they're producing 17.4 million barrels – less than in 1982, but more than any year since then. The increase in efficiency is impressive, but it's not enough to meet demand: U.S. oil consumption (http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/quickfacts/quickoil.html) is 20.7 million barrels per day. Refinery capacity isn't the only factor in the price of gasoline, and according (http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/ask/gasoline_faqs.asp#gas_prices) to the EIA it's not the most important one either (that would be the cost of crude oil), but it's certainly a contributor.

Existing refineries have been running at or near full capacity since the mid-1990s, but are failing to meet daily consumption demands. Yet there hasn't been a new refinery built in the U.S. since 1976. Why? Several factors: Building a refinery is expensive, there are a lot of environmental restrictions (http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/petrefine/mactdoc1.pdf) on where and how they can be built and nobody wants to live near one. One company (http://www.arizonacleanfuels.com/), Arizona Clean Fuels, has been trying to construct a refinery in the Southwest since 1998. Getting a permit to build took seven years (http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/business/19103.php), and the company twice changed the plant's proposed location because of environmental restrictions and land disputes. The refinery is projected (http://www.arizonacleanfuels.com/news/2008/020508_YS.htm) to have a $3.7 billion total price tag. The EIA recorded per-barrel profits of $5.29 in 2006; at that rate, the 150,000-barrel-per-day refinery would need to operate for almost 13 years before its profits outweighed the cost of building it.
As is often the case, it turns out that we are our own worst enemy.

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/05/us-oil-refining-capability/#:~:text=Existing%20refineries%20have%20been%20run ning%20at%20or%20near,refinery%20built%20in%20the% 20U.S.%20since%201976.%20Why%3F

Wondergirl
Jun 16, 2022, 02:15 PM
The oil is available. Refinery employees are not. Blame covid.

tomder55
Jun 16, 2022, 03:37 PM
Now if she's right about refining capacity, then perhaps that's a valid point. The question of her being right is difficult to answer.

The United States, according to independent analyst Paul Sankey, is "structurally short" on refining capacity for the first time in decades.
Global refiners falter in efforts to keep up with demand | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/global-refiners-falter-efforts-keep-up-with-demand-2022-05-31/#:~:text=The%20United%20States%2C%20according%20to ,the%20latest%20federal%20data%20available.)

We incredibly have not built a new refinery in the US since 1976 .

Many old refineries are being repurposed to make bio-fuels under pressure from enviro-wacko government policies.

Even as Clueless cynically postures and rants about refinery capacity ,he faces prressure from the moron running the UN ; UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres ,who Tuesday, said that the only cure for the world’s current energy crisis is the investment of more $$$ trillions in government subsidies for the rent-seeking renewables industries.

'Delusional': UN chief slams new fossil fuel funding (cnbc.com) (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/14/delusional-un-chief-slams-new-fossil-fuel-funding.html)

Clueless of course has been on this energy transition train for the git go and it is extremely hypocritical of him to rant against refinery capacity of fossil fuels .

tomder55
Jun 17, 2022, 04:03 AM
Brit historian Neil Oliver writing about what is happening in England has some words of caution for all free people .


So much of what is happening now – crashing economy; livelihoods destroyed; dismal care of physical and mental health; educations compromised or worse; a so-called green agenda prioritised at all costs and regardless of harms done by subsidies on bills – those subsidies that are the only, absolutely the only reason any private company ever raised a wind turbine, or invested in solar panels for British skies; VAT on fuel; spiralling costs of food and essentials; deliberately destructive setting aside of farmland and discouragement of farmers and farming as an industry in a time of global food insecurity; domestic and international travel made so problematic as to be hardly worth the bother; the looming prospect of digital IDs; the rise of digital currencies instead of money – all of these troubling realities and more – all of it makes sense once you apply the “Keep It Simple” principle.
What we are witnessing is no longer a State working to serve us and to protect our shared heritage, institutions, culture and way of life. Rather we are watching their deliberate destruction and dismantling ready for replacement with something else...........




He advises against revolution which destroys what is both good and bad .


The preferable solution is to maintain all that is good, all that has served us well. Maintain the foundations of the old house and as much of the structure above as is still sound. Root out the rot and treat the woodworm, repair and replace what is broken, but keep as much as possible of what has stood the test of time, what has worked.

He then goes on to state that a revolution is underway from within the power structures of the state .


We are told, by them, that pain is coming – and that that pain must be endured. Suddenly they’re all saying it at once, all over the world, yet another script parroted in unison – like Build Back Better – only worse. But that pain is for us alone, we the proles. Those with the money and power will glide above it all in their private jets, leaving in their wake contrails of CO2 that might as well scribble on the sky the message:
“Suck it up, peasants”.


The State is no longer working to serve us and to protect our shared heritage, says Neil Oliver (gbnews.uk) (https://www.gbnews.uk/gb-views/the-state-is-no-longer-working-to-serve-us-and-to-protect-our-shared-heritage-says-neil-oliver/310649)

tomder55
Jun 17, 2022, 04:43 PM
Ben Stein has an excellent op-ed about inflation and specifically how Clueless' energy policies are chiefly responsible . He says it would be possible to reverse inflation by reversing polices regarding fracking ,pipelines etc.

My view is that yes it would help some. But we have gone so far and long with horrible loose monetary policy ;and we are in for some serious pain the likes that few Americans have experienced .

Inflation: All Fingers Point to Biden - The American Spectator | USA News and Politics (https://spectator.org/inflation-all-fingers-point-to-biden/)

tomder55
Jun 18, 2022, 02:36 AM
https://www.americanthinker.com/images/bucket/2022-06/238695_5_.jpg

German currency during hyperinflation of the Weimar Republic.

The Fed has failed in it's primary mission ;to maintain the value of the dollar .Repeated quantitative easing and reckless Congressional spending has led us to a place where the only cure is a severe slowdown in the economy (recession is coming ....there is no sweet spot soft landing this time ) Consumer demand has to be lowered, money supply tightened . The moron in the Presidency needs to open up our energy capacity . We should be the energy arsenal of democracy (if he wants to borrow a slogan from his hero Roosevelt )

The Fed raising interest rates to double digit will not cure it if the Treasury keeps the printing presses working on overtime churning out monopoly money treasury notes that the Fed dutifully purchases . A strong dollar was always the right policy.

jlisenbe
Jun 18, 2022, 05:06 AM
All true, but it will require some national discipline. I am concerned about what is going to happen when the welfare class finds their lists of giveaways being restricted.

tomder55
Jun 23, 2022, 06:20 AM
Clueless Joe does not understand economics . Proof is the things he proposes to fix gas prices.

Supply side .......Windfall profits tax. Economics 101 if you want less of something you tax it more . Windfall taxes A similar tax tried by Jimmy Carter in 1980 resulted in a reduction in domestic oil production by as much as 6% and increased oil imports by as much as 15%.Energy exploration, development, refining and distribution is a risky and capital-intensive industry. If the framework of doing business, including the tax structure, changes significantly, firms will change their behaviour as well. The response of energy firms to the tax in the U.S. was predictable and a sensible one . They cut back.

Demand side .......

Clueless gets it equally wrong here in his proposed tax holiday.Cutting the tax will increase demand . Knowing that the proposed tax cut is temporary consumers will do the logical thing by topping their tanks . The demand increasing means prices would go up .
We know this is so because NY has already tried it this year.

Consider that on June 1st, the state of New York suspended its motor fuel tax of 8 cents a gallon, as well as its 4 percent sales tax up to $2 a gallon. According to data from AAA, on June 1st the average retail price of gasoline in New York was $4.93 a gallon. Two weeks after the roughly 16 cent per gallon tax holiday went into effect, the average price in New York was $5.04 a gallon. (Of course, the underlying price of oil has a big impact on gasoline prices, but the point is consumers there haven’t seen a drop in gasoline prices despite the significant tax cut).

Why A Gas Tax Holiday Probably Won’t Work (forbes.com) (https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/06/21/why-a-gas-tax-holiday-probably-wont-work/?sh=f79d3f0179bd)


Clueless knows this so he is appealing to the patriotism of the gas companies .“At a time of war – historically high refinery profit margins being passed directly onto American families are not acceptable.”

Chevron replied .
“We share these concerns, and expect the Administration’s approach to energy policy will start to better reflect the importance of addressing them."
“Unfortunately, what we have seen since January 2021 are policies that send a message that the Administration aims to impose obstacles to our industry delivering energy resources the world needs.”

Oil industry pushes back on White House threats | Earlier this month, President Brain-Dead Biden responded to rising gas prices with a letter that scolded oil companies and threatened them with government action. However, the Daily Caller reported that two oil industry trade groups answered with a letter of their own which argued that higher energy costs are partly the result of Biden’s own | The Tea Party's Front Page. | Slowly, our freedoms are being chipped away with, "We know better..." justification as its hammer and chisel. (ussanews.com) (https://ussanews.com/2022/06/21/oil-industry-pushes-back-on-white-house-threats/)

Everyone knows Clueless is hostile to the oil industry and has done everything he can think of to undermine it so he could transform America into his own utopian world where energy can be produced clean . He shut down pipelines ,cancelled leases and put moratoriums on leases of Federal Land .Where we were a net energy exporter under Trump ,we now have to beg for foreign oil. We have not built a new refinery since 1973.

Reversing his past mistakes would have a bigger impact than his tax sleight of hand .

tomder55
Jun 23, 2022, 06:42 AM
Fed Chief Powell testified yesterday that the reason inflation was high had nothing to do with Russia."No inflation was high … certainly before the war in Ukraine broke out,"

Jerome Powell Testimony: Key Takeaways From Senate Hearing on Economy (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/jerome-powell-testimony-key-takeaways-senate-hearing-economy-1718165)

tomder55
Jun 23, 2022, 08:24 AM
and then there is this

EPA Issues Broad Updates to Renewable Fuel Standards Program: 5 Things to Know | Vinson & Elkins LLP - JDSupra (https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/epa-issues-broad-updates-to-renewable-4172366/)

Even though gas prices nationwide are at an all-time high, EPA’s rule would increase the biofuel mandates beyond the 2021 standards.......

the proposed rule, the final rule mandates increases for every type of renewable fuel in 2022,

tomder55
Jul 5, 2022, 04:59 AM
Clueless has been attacking oil and gas companies for the high prices at the pump. He tweeted something that sounded like either a threat or a directive for them to "Bring down the price you are charging at the pump to reflect the cost you’re paying for the product. And do it now."

Well that did not sit well with lefty founder of Amazon and the owner of the Compost Jeff Bezos .

In a responding tweet he commented that Clueless is either lying or just doesn't understand basic market economics .

Jeff Bezos on Twitter: "Ouch. Inflation is far too important a problem for the White House to keep making statements like this. It’s either straight ahead misdirection or a deep misunderstanding of basic market dynamics." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/1543409762867494912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1543409762867494912%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailywire.com%2Fnews%2Fj eff-bezos-renews-attack-on-bidens-deep-misunderstanding-of-economics-in-withering-tweet)

This is the 2nd time recently that Bezos has taken Clueless to task. He went after the WH when it was suggested by Clueless that the cure for inflation was “Let’s make sure the wealthiest corporations pay their fair share.”

Bezos responded that the new Disinformation Board should investigate the Clueless tweet .

Jeff Bezos on Twitter: "The newly created Disinformation Board should review this tweet, or maybe they need to form a new Non Sequitur Board instead. Raising corp taxes is fine to discuss. Taming inflation is critical to discuss. Mushing them together is just misdirection." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/1525309091970699265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1525309091970699265%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailywire.com%2Fnews%2Fj eff-bezos-renews-attack-on-bidens-deep-misunderstanding-of-economics-in-withering-tweet)

Appears that Clueless is losing the support of his big corporate backers as he tries to blame shift his failures .

jlisenbe
Jul 5, 2022, 07:01 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see the price of gas fall fifty cents or so by November. That would allow Biden to run around saying, "The price of gas is falling!" The non-thinkers will snap it up and feel that he has done them a favor. More thoughtful people will remember the price on gas on 1/6/21.

tomder55
Jul 5, 2022, 08:02 AM
yes as well as 3rd and 4th qtr stock rebound before the recession after the holiday shopping season. Then again...it could be too late . With rising interest rates ,the average cost of financing a new car is $700 /month That means that the economy can't rely on new car sales this year .

The price at the pump has already dropped from the high here is SC . But I think even with a recession ;the price of crude on the market won't go below $80 /bbl

Clueless dug his own grave. All he did for years was spew the emperor line about destroying the fossil fuel industry . Now he wants them to drill ,drill ,drill ....refine ,refine ,refine
But there has been no long term investment in the infrastructure because of the kill the industry rhetoric . So there is no quick solution to the price beyond the failed policy of the 70s with government control on prices .....with all the fallout to follow .

jlisenbe
Jul 5, 2022, 08:13 AM
I read somewhere (here??) that we have not built a new refinery since the early 80's. It's just ridiculous. The feds are just killing us.

tomder55
Jul 5, 2022, 08:52 AM
last one of any significance(200,000 barrels a day) was 1977 . There were smaller ones of the 35,000 -60,000 capacity built since . And of course we have stopped buiiding pipelines to and from the refineries .

jlisenbe
Jul 5, 2022, 11:00 AM
I have often thought that our biggest problem here is that we look at Venezuela and think that won't happen to us, so we have these polly-annish ideas about pipelines and petroleum reserves that are not based in reality. We don't value what we have or properly appreciate it. The latest silliness about the supposed dozens of genders just reflects our aversion to actual truth.

jlisenbe
Jul 10, 2022, 06:39 AM
WH Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre informed us yesterday that the economy is the best in all of history. Is there no end to the lying? That one is just breath-taking.

tomder55
Jul 10, 2022, 07:08 AM
88% of the people disagree. But I guess is that if your ONLY measure of the economy is the huge number of people living off of Biden monopoly bucks ;who have not returned or entered the job force, then yeah the unemployment figures low.

Of course their Biden bucks aren't buying as many pairs of PJs as they used to do with inflation (with rigged numbers from previous calculating methods ) at a 40 + year high . Stock markert crashing and GDP numbers indicating that we are either in recession or on the verge of it must be another indicator of a "best economy " .

Me; I continue to belt tighten hoping against hope that I will not need to reenter the work force.

Oh wait . I get it . The Biden Crime family is doing better than ever .Economic success must mean you sell millions of barrels of strategic reserve gas to Chinese companies that Hunter Biden has ties to.

tomder55
Jul 11, 2022, 04:07 AM
Here is the truth about jobs. The economy shed 22 million jobs during unnecessary covid lock downs . It recovered 12.5 million of those under Trump . Since then the economy recovered 9 million more . 500,000 + less than pre-covid peaks . Clueless claims that his $2 trillion monopoly money giveaway helped , In fact it has slowed down job recovery as potential workers are still living off of the gimmees . Many of these gimmees are still in place like expanded food stamps (doubled since pandemic ) without work requirements .

In that time the potential work force of Americans becoming work age has increased by 4 million + .
So why do the unemployment stats look so low ? Because potential workers are not looking for work. If all the unemployed were counted then the unemployment #s would be over 5% .

Even worse ;there are 11million + jobs available that are not filled .

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 08:39 AM
during unnecessary covid lock downs .
C'mon, tomder. We had no clue how contagious and even deadly covid was. The lockdowns were done out of an abundance of caution about an unknown disease for which much conflicting info was thrown around.

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2022, 08:48 AM
Even worse ;there are 11million + jobs available that are not filled .So absurd. The dems are reluctant to cut unemployment benefits since, after all, those are their voters.

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 09:42 AM
My friend with an MBA finally got a job making tacos.

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2022, 10:08 AM
He needs to have two jobs making tacos. The keys are to work hard, get along with people, control your mouth, and maintain a good attitude. Everyone is looking for those kind of people. Self-pity and a grandiose estimation of self are the killers.

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 10:26 AM
Companies aren't hiring MBAs, don't want to pay out that much salary and screw up their bottom line.

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2022, 12:13 PM
Of course they are hiring MBAs. They hire them all the time, but evidently not frequently enough to benefit your friend. So become a Taco Bell general manager. Work hard at it. Life frequently passes out nasty surprises, but there are still hundreds of great opportunities out there. I don't feel sorry for anyone in this job market today.

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 12:27 PM
Apparently you're not job hunting.

tomder55
Jul 11, 2022, 12:37 PM
if he can't find a job with an MBA then he is not trying .

Corporate profits soared . Major corps are always hiring financial managers . Human Resources is a growing field that hires MBAs because companies have to balance HR needs and budgets . MBA trained management consultants are all over the landscape. Marketing managers ? They easily pull in 6 digit incomes . Health care ? is an ever expanding industry that require business managers .

I don't buy that anyone with a master degress in any field has to settle for a taco house .

if he can't find a job with an MBA then he is not trying .

Corporate profits soared . Major corps are always hiring financial managers . Human Resources is a growing field that hires MBAs because companies have to balance HR needs and budgets . MBA trained management consultants are all over the landscape. Marketing managers ? They easily pull in 6 digit incomes . Health care ? is an ever expanding industry that require business managers .
Logistics ? with the supply chain the way it is most companies need managers .

I don't buy that anyone with a master degress in any field has to settle for a taco house .

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 01:06 PM
He has been hard at work job hunting. I helped him write a resume, cover letters, and helped him job hunt. (I used to have a resume business along with my counseling business, ran seminars and workshops.) He was well prepared.

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2022, 01:35 PM
I helped him write a resume, cover letters, and helped him job hunt.Perhaps we have discovered the problem??

If i had to take a wild guess, I'd guess that the number of MBAs making tacos for a living is pretty slim. He would possibly have to move, but if he is competent, then he can get a job.

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 01:57 PM
The problem is where he lives.

tomder55
Jul 11, 2022, 02:14 PM
I twice moved to where the jobs were .I also did commutes of over 1 hr for most of my career . Life is full of choices .

There are jobs for MBA grads if they REALLY want them

Business School Graduates Enter White-Hot Job Market as Employers Signal Growth, Confidence in Their Credentials (yahoo.com) (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/business-school-graduates-enter-white-140000655.html)

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2022, 02:18 PM
Yeah. This really sounded negative for certain.


Recruiter responses suggest companies in the United States plan to offer increased starting salaries to business master’s graduates in 2022 compared to last year. In addition, median MBA starting salary levels eclipse those being offered to bachelor’s graduates by 22 percent to 40 percent across the world regions for which there is sufficient sample to report. Median starting salaries are largest in the United States, where the median starting salary offered to new MBA hires this year ─ US$115,000 — has remained unchanged for the past three survey years.

I never reached six figures as a school principal. Those poor, underpaid MBAs.

tomder55
Jul 11, 2022, 02:28 PM
Who knows ;maybe there is some hidden job satisfaction in stuffing taco shells .

In my case I moved my family off of Long Island NY because there were opportunities for me across the Hudson river . I purchased a home near a NY State park even though my job was an hour away .I absorbed the extra transportation expenses both time and money so my family could live where we chose .

Mobility is a hallmark of the American way of life . Another reason why the Brandon gas prices are so insidious . It is all an attempt to fundamentally change America.

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 02:37 PM
Now things have drastically changed. Home prices are too often beyond one's reach; gas prices (traveling to a job -- two hours round-trip???) are horrendous. People can no longer live where they want to.

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2022, 02:47 PM
Yep. Amazing how much things have changed in the past 18 months. Wonder who would be responsible for that?


People can no longer live where they want to.People move to new locales all the time.

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 02:57 PM
Yep. Amazing how much things have changed in the past 18 months. Wonder who would be responsible for that?
I know who set the stage for it.

People move to new locales all the time.
Have you checked house prices lately? Apartment rents?

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2022, 03:13 PM
I know who set the stage for it.Can liberal dems ever assume responsibility for ANYTHING???


Have you checked house prices lately? Apartment rents?And all that happening with a liberal dem pres and Congress. Time for a change, for sure.

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 03:16 PM
And all that happening with a liberal dem pres and Congress. Time for a change, for sure.
No, because the former president told us to drink bleach in order to kill covid germs.

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2022, 03:21 PM
Yes, and Trump also partnered with the Russkies to get elected. Oh wait...no, that turned out to be not true, just like your wild tale about bleach. One thing about you liberal dems. You have no great affinity for the truth.

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 03:38 PM
I am a Republican with a brain.

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2022, 04:48 PM
walks like a duck...quacks like a duck...

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 05:04 PM
A Christian Republican!

tomder55
Jul 11, 2022, 05:40 PM
gas prices (traveling to a job -- two hours round-trip???) are horrendous.

https://rlv.zcache.com/i_did_that_biden_3_square_stickers_sheet_of_6-rcc5a3f15a72543d9b1c72ddc73d39530_0ugra_8byvr_704. webp

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 05:41 PM
Do what your ancestors did -- buy a horse and buggy. Preserve the environment and reduce global warming.

tomder55
Jul 11, 2022, 06:00 PM
Guessing you never heard of The Great Horse Manure Crisis of 1894

Before the end of the 19th century large cities were drowning in it .On average a horse will produce between 15 and 35 pounds of manure per day, Multiply that by the number of horses needed to service large cities .

tomder55
Jul 11, 2022, 06:05 PM
It got even worse ... each horse produces on average 2 pts of urine that ran down city streets . Working horses lasted 3 years , Their carcass had to be disposed of

tomder55
Jul 11, 2022, 06:23 PM
So in 1898 NY the world’s first international urban planning conference was held. But no solution could be found. Yet 15 years later it was no longer a problem. Why ?


The First Global Urban Planning Conference Was Mostly About Manure - Atlas Obscura (https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-first-global-urban-planning-conference-was-mostly-about-manure)

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 06:30 PM
Nope. We'd be back to farms and dirt roads. Men would be real men, and women would be mothers and homemakers. Families would attend church every Sunday morning. The good times, the simple times, would be restored.

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2022, 06:48 PM
You need to study history.

Wondergirl
Jul 11, 2022, 06:58 PM
You are so darn cute!

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2022, 07:09 PM
Yeah. This is really what it was like. And you even failed to include the Emerald City!!


Men would be real men, and women would be mothers and homemakers. Families would attend church every Sunday morning. The good times, the simple times, would be restored.
And this coming from someone who hasn't attended church in twenty five years??

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2022, 07:45 PM
That's not what you said many months ago. You said then that you became disenchanted with the Lutheran Church.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=847492&page=17&p=3854183#post3854183

At any rate, I sometimes have the same feelings about earlier times. My father was born in 1915 and told me about a lot of things. Some of them were good, but many were not. Medical and dental care were not good. People worked themselves into exhaustion. Infant mortality was a serious issue. Diseases such as diabetes had no treatment. And the list goes on and on. It was not the grand time you imagine it to have been. But I would completely agree that they had a strength of character and a moral backbone that we sorely need today. Perhaps that was the point you were trying to make.

tomder55
Jul 12, 2022, 02:33 AM
1900 life expectancy in the US was around 50 years old . Today it is closer to 80 . Humans have thrived since carbon energy technology emerged . That simple rural life was not that good . Humans began to develop technologies to augment or displace nature’s uncertainty. Food supplies and nutrition improved ;as did living standards, and human well ​being . That is because with the technology that were fueled by fossil fuels ,it took few human resources to produce what was needed thus freeing humans for other pursuits .

tomder55
Jul 13, 2022, 06:01 AM
Do what your ancestors did -- buy a horse and buggy. Preserve the environment and reduce global warming.





IF you want to see what happens when green lunacy is employed as national policy then all you have to do is see what is happening now in Sri Lanka .Riots, food shortages, power cuts ,a coming famine should be a cautionary tale about what 'green new deal' policies produce. Last year the country’s president decided to convert the entire nation’s food production to organic.As a result losses of up to 70% of food production have been realized. This will force them to import food that is becoming increasingly scarce and expensive world wide. There is no money in the Sri Lanka economy to pay for the needed imports and the government is desperately trying to get a World Bank loan.

Since the World Bank encourages such nonsense ,they should help bail the nation out .
Green, resilient, and inclusive development: Lessons from Sri Lanka (worldbank.org) (https://blogs.worldbank.org/endpovertyinsouthasia/green-resilient-and-inclusive-development-lessons-sri-lanka)

jlisenbe
Jul 13, 2022, 06:32 AM
I oftentimes think that our biggest problem is that we look at the Venezuelas and Sri Lankas and think that it won't happen to us.

tomder55
Jul 13, 2022, 07:03 AM
it can easily happen . There are massive protests in China . Dutch farmers are in revolt . Food shortages more than anything else is government killers . Argentina owes $45 billion to the IMF and they are in crisis .(small potatoes to our multi-trillion debt)

jlisenbe
Jul 13, 2022, 08:00 AM
Debt, which the Bible frequently cautions against, is more likely to bring us down that anything else other than our own lack of national character.

jlisenbe
Jul 14, 2022, 05:11 AM
49391

tomder55
Jul 15, 2022, 05:08 AM
Inflation is up over 9% with no end in sight. Everyone should be reminded that when inflation finally settles down ,the prices will not drop accordingly .Today's prices are the bench mark give or take some leeway for supply stabilization or demand decreases .

That of course could happen due to wages not keeping up with prices.Real hourly earnings fell 3.6% over the last 12 months.Employers looking to cut expenses have reduced overtime (my company would routinely do that even when the market was good ) Actual, inflation-adjusted weekly earnings fell 4.4%.in that period . Energy and food costs soared even higher than the so called inflation rate Groceries were up 12% and gas a stagering 60%.(things Americans can't live without .

Clueless is in denial and refuses to course correct on things like excessive government spending . That leaves only the Fed to combat inflation . Their only tool to do so is to raise the cost of borrowing .At a minimum I believe they will jack up interest rates another 0.75 points ;but don't be surprised to see a full point increase .

This will eliminate any chance of the so called soft landing without recession ,

jlisenbe
Jul 15, 2022, 05:46 AM
Good post, Tom. I shared part of it on Facebook. Sadly, the liberal dems will ignore all of this. The great deflection of blaming it all on the Russkies will continue.

It's incredible how the liberal dems on this site have all fallen aside save one. It seems to illustrate how fragile their ideas are and how much they resent having them questioned.

tomder55
Jul 15, 2022, 12:33 PM
What was dis-inflationary ? Answer The Trump Tax reform . Tax cuts to the private sector allowed them to reinvest the money into improving productivity .Federal tax receipts that Clueless brags about are a direct result of the reform that Clueless is allowing to expire .

tomder55
Jul 16, 2022, 03:56 AM
The Fed has 2 jobs . It is to primarily to keep inflation in check while also having a low unemployment rate . Chairman Powell knows this and knows that they failed badly. Former Sec Treasury Larry Summers called them out on it.

“In 2021, our central bank let us down quite badly,” .... “As a consequence, they find themselves in a very, very difficult position, not least because they don’t have the credibility that they once enjoyed given their repeated poor forecasting record.”

Fed ‘Let Us Down Quite Badly’ and Still Unrealistic, Summers Says - Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-15/summers-says-fed-let-us-down-quite-badly-and-still-unrealistic#xj4y7vzkg)

I would say they have not had any credibility since maybe Paul Volker's term in the early 1980s . When he took office inflation was 14% and unemployment was approaching double digits . That was because of many years of failed loose money fiscal policy that became so out of wack that both Nixon and Carter tinkered with price controls . (in truth it started in the mid-60s when LBJ decided to finance his Great Society programs and the Vietnam was with cheap money and the Fed never pushed back ).Failed Keynesian economics.... government could tax and spend its way to full employment ;and inflations was acceptable if it put more people to work, had been employed for decades became vogue.

Volker decided to target money supply. He made loose money hard money .Lending rates shot up to over 20% . It took 2 recessions and a lot of pain to correct the bad money policies of the late 60's and the 1970s .

You would think a lesson would've been learned .

Today even as inflation approaches double digits our national leadership is advocating more reckless spending . Will the Fed have the will to resist it ? We already know we can't count on the Treasury . Janet Yellen is a disaster .

jlisenbe
Jul 16, 2022, 04:46 AM
It's a Wonderland for pols. Spend, spend, spend without having to raise taxes. It's a sad reflection on the American people for electing such dishonest people and tolerating this. But as I've said, when people believe abortion is good and genders are plentiful, then they are setup to believe just about anything.