“You’re not going to — maybe — like this. We should be paying the Brazilians not to cut down the forests. We got to cut ours down. We got to cut ours down. We got the benefit of it. We’ve got these third world countries — not third world, some are — in Africa and in South America. We got to — the industrial countries have to help,”

Decipher ;he wants the US to pay Brazil to not cut down the Amazon.

He also pledged billions to make our military vehicles and fleet "environmentally friendly .

My previous post noted how often he travels to his Delaware home . HInt ;he is not commuter Joe taking AMTRAK . And what is the carbon footprint on his many homes ? He admits that he doesn't practice what he preaches which gives him a positive over the likes of Leo DeCrapio and Greta Thunberg . He is slightly less a hypocrite .

He also lied through his a$$ claiming that he has asthma . That did not show up on his last medical report . He has claimed he has it for years when it served his purpose like getting out of joining the military during Vietnam. His asthma did not bother him in the least when he speaks of his high school football exploits or his time as a life guard .

I guess as President he has become slightly more environmentally friendly . He is no longer permitted to drive around in his 1968 Corvette .

and now a word from the emperor

When it comes to climate change, time really is running out. Earth Day is a reminder that if we pledge to do our part and then follow through on those commitments, we can help preserve and protect our planet for future generations.

Here is the emperor's Marthas Vinyard home .https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ-hfkyWYAE8sqd?format=jpg&name=small

Lots of green space, vegetation, large open areas.

Enormous uses of energy to heat, cool, light, etc. So much for reducing the ole carbon footprint. Same thing was true of Al Gore. He owns several houses including one in Nashville of which this is true. "In the last year, Gore’s Nashville home used enough energy to power a typical house in America for 21 years..."

https://www.iheart.com/content/2017-08-03-youll-never-guess-how-many-homes-yearly-energy-output-al-gores-heated-pool-would-cover/

Did this in 2010.


(LOS ANGELES, CA) -- In a move that critics may cite as his own inconvenient truth, former Vice President Al Gore and his wife, Tipper, have added a house in secluded Montecito, Calif., to their real estate holdings.

The couple spent $8,875,000 on a gated ocean-view villa on 1 1/2 acres with a swimming pool, spa and fountains, according to real estate sources familiar with the deal. The Italian-style house has high ceilings with beams in the public rooms, a family room, a wine cellar, terraces, six fireplaces, five bedrooms and nine bathrooms in more than 6,500 square feet of living space.

I don't care what they live in, but I do object to their moralizing about climate change while being major contributors to atmospheric CO2.

If you were worth $70 million or a bit more, where would you live and what would your palatial estate look like?

We should be paying the Brazilians not to cut down the forests.Never ceases to be amazing. We are running enormous budget deficits, and yet we are to use money we don't have to pay Brazil to not cut down their own trees. Incredible. The great red wave cannot come too soon.


If you were worth $70 million or a bit more, where would you live and what would your palatial estate look like?Perhaps you missed this. "I don't care what they live in, but I do object to their moralizing about climate change while being major contributors to atmospheric CO2."

Those Brazilian forests are keeping you alive.


Perhaps you missed this. "I don't care what they live in, but I do object to their moralizing about climate change while being major contributors to atmospheric CO2."
What do you suggest regarding housing? (P.S. How are they major contributors to atmospheric CO2?)

Those Brazilian forests are keeping you alive. Nope.


What do you suggest?Put their home where their mouth is.

If you were worth $70 million or a bit more, where would you live and what would your palatial estate look like?
It wouldn't be on the ocean front if I was concerned with rising sea levels . Now the emperor is building another ocean front mansion in Hawaii .

Nope.
Put their home where their mouth is.
Yep, it is. Good thing you're old and won't have to witness the end of this world.

They couldn't have made a better choice! Sorry you're so envious.

Those Brazilian forests are keeping you alive. if I cut down an acre of Brazillian rain forest and plant an acre of corn ;the vegetation I plant still has the same carbon reducing properties .

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1517591517946204161/oR5eVQzU?format=jpg&name=small

Yep, it is. Good thing you're old and won't have to witness the end of this world.You'll need some data to back that contention up. You can look that up after you post that legal analysis you promised a week ago.


They couldn't have made a better choice! Sorry you're so envious.I can only say it again. I don't care what they live in. Couldn't care less. It is their gross hypocrisy I object to and which you evidently approve of. Strange.


if I cut down an acre of Brazillian rain forest and plant an acre of corn ;the vegetation I plant still has the same carbon reducing properties .Let's suppose you're a little off. Maybe it takes three acres of corn to equal one acre of rain forest. Well, we still have the solution.

Let's suppose you're a little off. Maybe it takes three acres of corn to equal one acre of rain forest. Well, we still have the solution.
Apparently you aren't from corn country. Growing corn is a major contributor to air pollution.

let's stop growing food . yeah that's the ticket

John the Baptist ate locusts and honey.

good for him Jesus ate unleavened bread that had to be grown in the ground . The left has no answers except to snuff babies .

Unleavened bread is basically a wheat cracker. Cf. wheat Ritz cracker.

Agriculture contributes about one-third of all greenhouse gas emissions. That includes the emissions from deforestation to create farmlands.

Need some data to back that one up as well.

yes wheat has to be grown . btw I have read all the envirowacko studies advocating bug consumption to save the planet . It is for nonsense like that proposition why I will never believe that scientists should rule the planet .... especially Herr Doctor who said courts should defer to public-health experts like him.
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I was just taking a bit of time out of my busy schedule to liven up this site. Mission accomplished!

Tom, as it turns out, was spot on.

Trees

by Joyce Kilmer

I think that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.
A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the earth’s sweet flowing breast;
A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;
A tree that may in Summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;
Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.
Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.

https://misc.pagesuite.com/297280d2-593d-4b52-bb63-0e1577001aac/images/aced559b-dd83-4a98-8514-fc8abab778d0.jpg

yes that ancient tree should be preserved in the endless field of grass .In NY I had century old 125' tall ;sycamore on my property .I had branches fall that were bigger than most new trees . I kept seed pods and have planted 2 on my new property . That doesn't change the reality that humans need cleared land converted to farm land to survive .

Humans, stop reproducing!

What a plan.

Give each pregnant woman shots of estrogen and progesterone.

Malthusianism leads to eugenics .But of course social Darwinism is a hallmark of the progressive left . Abortions of course;forced sterilization of the unworthy have all been done in the name of Malthusian population control .

This has nothing to do with abortions or sterilization. Healthy babies will be born.

Abortion has a lot to do with healthy babies being born. For that matter, so does sterilization, so not sure what your point is other that humans need to stop reproducing.

Abortion has a lot to do with healthy babies being born. For that matter, so does sterilization, so not sure what your point is other that humans need to stop reproducing.
You definitely missed the point! Think about it.

then again there's this
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Abortion and forced sterilization have everything to do with population control. Also, dictatorial states have imposed draconian one child policies and have had termination polices of undesirables.
Even free countries infected with progressive indoctrination have walked down that path.

Do I have to remind you of America's role? “Better to be cruel to be kind.” .....“those in power knew best what was good for the vulnerable and weak” ('The Evolution of Everything 'by evolutionary biologist Matt Ridley )
1927 Buck v Bell ,SCOTUS legalized sterilization of undesirables in the US. 70,000 Americans were victims of that policy.

Margaret Sanger ,the mother of the modern abortion industry was both a Malthusian eugenicist and a racist . Her Planned Parenthood was designed to exterminate Blacks . She was a clear advocate of selective breeding .

Paul Ehrlich's 1968 'The population Bomb ' is a bible for the environmental movement and represented the kickoff of the movement . His book made population control cool . It fueled an anti-population growth crusade that led to human rights abuses around the world. In Egypt, Tunisia, Pakistan, South Korea and Taiwan, health workers’ salaries were, in a system that invited abuse, dictated by the number of IUDs they inserted into women. In the Philippines, birth-control pills were literally pitched out of helicopters hovering over remote villages. Millions of people were sterilized, often coercively, sometimes illegally, frequently in unsafe conditions, in Mexico, Bolivia, Peru, Indonesia and Bangladesh.

In the 1970s and ’80s, India, embraced policies that required sterilization for men and women to obtain water, electricity, ration cards, medical care and pay raises. More than eight million men and women were sterilized in 1975 alone.

China's one child policy led to 100 million forced abortions.

Ehrlich being the compassionate humanist argued that the US should pressure other governments to launch vasectomy campaigns. He claims he never supported coercive means .

He predicted that within 15 years we will have gone past the point of no return. That would've been 1984. At the time of publication 1 in 4 humans were living in a state of starvation . Today the proportion of hungry is about 1in 10. Meanwhile, the world’s population has more than doubled. People are surviving because they learned how to do things differently. They developed and adopted new agricultural techniques; improved seeds, fertilizers, drip irrigation. More food is grown on less land .In many cases agricultural land in the US and the world has returned to the wild .

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Rewilding as it is called has returned large areas of previously used lands back to nature. Spainalone has tripled its forest area since 1900 , from 8% to 25% of its territory.

You would think that would please envirowackos . Ehrlich is alive and still preaching his doom and gloom .

He predicted that within 15 years we will have gone past the point of no return. That would've been 1984. At the time of publication 1 in 4 humans were living in a state of starvation . Today the proportion of hungry is about 1in 10.You would think that the supposedly compassionate, people-loving liberal dems would applaud such a development.


This has nothing to do with abortions or sterilization. Healthy babies will be born.You really want me to think about a statement like that, especially coming on the heels of, "Humans, stop reproducing?" Might be better if someone else would think about it before posting.

You really want me to think about a statement like that, especially coming on the heels of, "Humans, stop reproducing?" Might be better if someone else would think about it before posting.
You found A and C but you're still missing B.

I'm afraid I am all too aware of what "B" is.

I bet not.

Yep. It's means you've dug yet another hole from which you cannot extricate yourself, so you resort to the mysterious answers. It's very similar to that legal analysis you promised well over a week ago which, to be sure, we all knew was never going to happen. History repeats itself yet again.

Nope. You aren't reading comprehensively. Tsk, tsk! And you're a former educator too. I weep.

Thank you for the perfect verification.


It's means you've dug yet another hole from which you cannot extricate yourself, so you resort to the mysterious answers. It's very similar to that legal analysis you promised well over a week ago which, to be sure, we all knew was never going to happen. History repeats itself yet again.

You have no answers, so it's just more deflection, one of your two favorite evasions. I know you all too well. You are as predictable as the sun rising in the east. You have no answers, so it just HAS to be the other guy's fault.

Note to other readers. You will NEVER see the promised legal solution we were told to expect over a week ago.

You have no answers,
No, YOU can't find B in the previous maze of my productive posts and your false accusations. I do give you partial credit, though, for finding A and C.

Oh, never fear. You'll get your desperately wanted "legal solution".

Doubtful…in both instances. But I am hoping for the best.

SCOTUS In West Va v EPA put a brake on regulatory over reach. At issue was how far the EPA could go to regulate carbon emissions from energy producing plants.
Chief Justice Roberts writing for the majority 6-3 wrote that the Executive Branch can not interpret obscure sections of laws passed by Congress to essentially do a power grab .

The plan originally introduced by the emperor and adapted radically by Clueless Joe's regime would've created cap and trade and other measures that would force the industry to transition to their so called clean energy agenda.

Roberts called the plan overreach based on laws Congress passed.

Capping carbon dioxide emissions at a level that will force a nationwide transition away from the use of coal to generate electricity may be a sensible “solution to the crisisof the day.” New York v. United States, 505 U. S. 144, 187 (1992). But it is not plausible that Congress gave EPA the authority to adopt on its own such a regulatory scheme in Section 111(d). A decision of such magnitude and consequence rests with Congress itself, or an agency acting pursuant to a clear delegation from that representative body.

20-1530 West Virginia v. EPA (06/30/2022) (supremecourt.gov) (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-1530_n758.pdf)

This is a major decision. The regulatory state have been out of control for over a century . This decision will impact other agencies decisions beyond the EPA.

That WV decision would seem to be impactful until you consider that the Biden admin will just change lanes and keep going.


Oh, never fear. You'll get your desperately wanted "legal solution".I assumed that meant sometime this year. I guess not.

That WV decision would seem to be impactful until you consider that the Biden admin will just change lanes and keep going.
(https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/white-house-advisor-tells-cnn-high-gases-prices-necessary-future-liberal?utm_source=sf&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twjs)

Lile this ?

White House adviser claims high gas prices necessary for 'future of the liberal world order' | Just The News (https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/white-house-advisor-tells-cnn-high-gases-prices-necessary-future-liberal?utm_source=sf&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twjs)

Yep. I heard that. A refreshing and yet frightening moment of honesty.

Meanwhile the emperor has proven to be a true climate change warrior . Greta would be proud .

We already know he owns mansions on the ocean waterfronts of 2 oceans . This signals his concern for rising oceans .

To get to both homes he flies boats and /or drives (or rather someone else takes him there by such transportation )

And like a true progressive lefty he does not care that the cost of fossil fuels have skyrocketed . He stated a decade ago that his policies would necessarily skyrocket energy costs .

But wait ...... does the cost of energy or the availability of energy for his mansions concern him ? Maybe it does .

The emperor recently purchased 3 huge propane tanks for his 6,900 sq ft Martha's Vinyard mansion .The tanks will store 2,500 gallons of commercial propane.

Why do they need tanks of that size ? Conspiracy theorists speculate that the emperor is preparing for the Brandon apocalypse . But more likely he wants to squirrel away the gas anticipating even larger price increases .

U.S. propane market prepares for ‘Armageddon’ amid price spikes and supply shortages | WHNT.com (https://whnt.com/news/u-s-propane-market-prepares-for-armageddon-amid-price-spikes-and-supply-shortages/)

Or maybe he wants to protect the frozen foods in his freezer from brown outs when the sun don't shine.

Surprisingly he has not put up windmills or a solar panel farm on his property as an alternative to fossil fuels .

Not to worry ..... propane is a "clean burning " fossil fuel . Well yes it emits less CO2 than gas or diesel . But it is hardly clean .There is a carbon footprint when extracting propane from natural gas and crude oil refining . You don't get propane without the processing of oil and natural gas .

When the emperor was President he gave $72 billion monopoly money to solar companies . You would think that would've done the trick.


“our planet has been wounded by our actions,” ...“Collectively and individually, we are still falling short. We have not done nearly enough to address this crisis,” .......“The consequences of not moving fast enough are becoming apparent all the time. … There are times when I am doubtful that humanity can get its act together before it’s too late,”

Barack Obama COP26 Climate Speech Transcript | Rev (https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/barack-obama-cop26-climate-speech-transcript)

Nice post. I copied much of it to Facebook. It's worth reading. The "emperor" is Obama...correct?

yes he is emperor zero

This article is so complete I cannot add to it . It goes to the essential question ;are we to be a democratic Republic or are we to be replaced by the Wilsonian vision of rule by bureaucratic fiat .

I will not c/p sections .The whole article is quotable and worthy of a read .


Reining In the Fourth Branch of Government | RealClearPolitics (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/07/06/reining_in_the_fourth_branch_of_government____1478 45.html)

Best summary of the views expressed in the article.


This debate goes to the very heart of how we as Americans rule ourselves. The left sees Washington’s administrative apparatus as “rule by experts,” essential for controlling a technologically complex society. Their preference is for the modern equivalent of Plato’s philosopher-kings, people who understand the population’s needs far better than the people themselves.

Conservatives (and populists) place no faith in philosopher-kings and certainly not in mid-level bureaucrats, mostly trained in law school. Conservatives see the engorged administrative state as undemocratic and, hence, illegitimate, unless the administrators are carrying out detailed legislation, passed by their elected representatives and signed by the president. The EPA is part of the Executive Branch, after all. It is tasked with executing the law, not with passing, enforcing, and adjudicating it on its own.

Also worth noting.


But focusing exclusively on the policy impact of court decisions turns federal judges into legislators.

The court’s ruling produced a bizarre spectacle on Capitol Hill: Democratic senators and representatives saying, “Please don’t return that authority to us.” Why? Because they want to avoid responsibility for the laws they pass (or fail to pass). They’ve been shirking that responsibility for decades, weakening their own powers, and they want to continue.

They’ve been shirking that responsibility for decades, weakening their own powers, and they want to continue.

Exactly . Also the executive makes EO and the administrative state complies or not at their own whim. You saw that clearly in the Trump Ukraine impeachment where unelected bureaucrats and diplomats were monitoring the President's call and deciding that the Chief Executive was violating US policy as they had designed it

Vital point not to be missed. "US policy as they had designed it"


Different topic. Hmmm. Hope is waning.
Oh, never fear. You'll get your desperately wanted "legal solution". Apr 24, 2022, 01:22 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXy42ibUIAsZwU5?format=jpg&name=medium

Although no historical evidence exists to confirm Plymouth Rock as the Pilgrims' actual steppingstone to the New World, the boulder was identified as this spot in 1741, 121 years after the arrival of the Mayflower," the town says (https://perma.cc/H5Z5-MSZ8?view-mode=server-side&type=image)on its website.
However, the rock has moved since then -- and it does not disprove the science of climate change.

Rock has been split, moved
In the book (https://www.google.com/books/edition/Plymouth_Rock_s_Own_Story/Vo1szQEACAAJ?hl=en)"Plymouth Rock's Own Story," historian Jim Baker wrote that the monument has been moved and manipulated throughout its history.
Baker says the rock offers "probably no useful evidence" about sea-level rise since it has been "raised and lowered several times," according to a statement sent to AFP by a Plymouth spokesperson.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/plymouth-rock-photo-does-not-invalidate-sea-level-rise/ar-AAZzsEs

Interesting catch, WG. That was a worthwhile link.

The whole issue of rising sea levels is, as I understand it, difficult to document, and especially when you're talking about a few centimeters over several decades.

The elite left is so concerned that they all own beach front mansions . This is Clueless Joes little get-away . American taxpayers paid almost $500,000 to install a fence around it .
https://www.capegazette.com/sites/capegazette/files/2021/10/field/image/6.1+Biden+-+house+updated.JPG

Liberal dems are convinced that fences and walls don't work. They don't work, that is, unless they are put up around their own property.

But couldn't someone simply tunnel under the fence'"? Or couldn't someone climb over the fence???

Yesterday Clueless said he has cancer and he blamed it on oil slicks in Delaware .


"That’s why I and so damn many other people I grew up with have cancer and why for the longest time Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation,”

Today the WH walked it back and said that he was referring to minor “non-melanoma skin cancers” he had removed before he took office.

He said it in the present tense not a procedure from over a year ago. His doctor Dr. Kevin O’Connor, attributed his skin cancer to time in the sun, rather than exposure to chemicals used by the oil industry.

Flashback ..........October of last year ..

We used to get up in the morning — not a joke — and I’d get driven to the little school I went, up the street; turn on the windshield wiper in the fall — in the fall, the first frost, and literally there’d be an oil slick on the window. Not a joke. An oil slick on the window. It’s why an awful lot of us, including me, have bronchial asthma.

Remarks by President Biden at the 10th Anniversary Celebration of the Dedication of the Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Memorial | The White House (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/10/21/remarks-by-president-biden-at-the-10th-anniversary-celebration-of-the-dedication-of-the-dr-martin-luther-king-jr-memorial/)

So he has bronchial asthma and skin cancer because of Delaware oil slicks .

I wonder if he blames his dementia on oil slicks ?

Liberal dems are convinced that fences and walls don't work. They don't work, that is, unless they are put up around their own property.

But couldn't someone simply tunnel under the fence'"? Or couldn't someone climb over the fence???
Yes, thus fences are only decorative.

So a security fence was constructed around his property for the decoration value ?

And this is the decorative fence they put around the Capitol after Jan 6

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2021/07/09/ap_21188785829769_custom-f825a789284555c83ec41229af7fd99eef855dff-s1100-c50.jpg

so ok he does not have cancer . But the double masked quadrupled vaxed Pres has covid. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYMtmKkVEAEFOKQ?format=jpg&name=small

I pray for him to have a speedy recovery .

Don't they know that fences can be "climbed" and "tunneled under"???

Yep, you can get covid even after vaxes and boosters.

But but Clueless told us a year ago you can't get it if you are jabbed .

Video of Biden Saying Vaccinations Prevent COVID Resurfaces After Infection (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-2021-video-saying-vaccinations-prevent-covid-resurfaces-1726900)

But but Clueless told us a year ago you can't get it if you are jabbed .

Video of Biden Saying Vaccinations Prevent COVID Resurfaces After Infection (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-2021-video-saying-vaccinations-prevent-covid-resurfaces-1726900)
And what did we not know about covid a year ago that we know now? And that will change during the next year as we learn more.

An out given to Biden that you would never have given to Trump.

a year ago we knew the vax would not prevent getting covid. Lib Fact checker did the best they could to cover for him .But they could not excuse the comment

Did Biden Say You Won't Get COVID if You're Vaccinated? | Snopes.com (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-if-vaccinated-wont-get-covid/)

a year ago we knew the vax would not prevent getting covid. Lib Fact checker did the best they could to cover for him .But they could not excuse the comment

Did Biden Say You Won't Get COVID if You're Vaccinated? | Snopes.com (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-if-vaccinated-wont-get-covid/)
You hate that site.

If Snopes decides against a liberal, then you can take it to the bank.

The point is that at the time Clueless made the comment ,it was well established that the vax did not prevent getting covid .


I don't hate them . Most fact checker sites are biased . I see them for what they are . It must've been a very bitter pill for them to swallow to say a lib President was wrong.

How many times do I reference the Compost and the Slimes ? It would be easy for me the quote Fox and other right sites . I find when I do the source gets attacked rather than the argument . Also I never trust a single source and always look at multiple ones before making an opinion.

Clueless Joe is girding up to lay a bunch of draconian executive orders on the
US and an economy that is reeling on the verge of a recession or worse.
His justification is the "clear and present danger" of the “Code red for humanity” climate crisis .

“As President, I have a responsibility to act with urgency and resolve when our nation faces clear and present danger. And that’s what climate change is about. It is literally, not figuratively, a clear and present danger.”......“The health of our citizens and our communities is literally at stake.”

Remarks by President Biden on Actions to Tackle the Climate Crisis | The White House (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/07/20/remarks-by-president-biden-on-actions-to-tackle-the-climate-crisis/)

He has elevated the already hysterical Cassandra warnings from being years away to imminent.

“Our national security is at stake as well. Extreme weather is already damaging our military installations here in the States. And our economy is at risk.”.....“Climate change is literally an existential threat to our nation and to the world.”.....“Let me be clear: Climate change is an emergency.”
“When it comes to fighting the climate change -- climate change, I will not take no for an answer.”.....
“If we don’t keep it below 1.5 degrees Centigrade, we lose it all. We don’t get to turn it around. And the world is counting on us.”
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In other words ;any act no matter how unconstitutional is justified because the world is counting on the US to act to save it's future.

Clueless Joe to the rescue !

“In the coming weeks, I’m going to use the power I have as President to turn these words into formal, official government actions through the appropriate proclamations, executive orders, and regulatory power that a President possesses.”

He says he has to do this because the people we elect to represent us in Congress refuse to bow to his demands .

What he is describing is monarchical absolute authority .....something we rebelled against in the late 18th century .

Just a thought . If you are buying a beach front property ;or you are buying a home in the highlands not near any water ;the mortgage rates are the same regardless of the location. There is no premium paid for taking the risk of buying a coastal home. The loans are mostly for a 30 year duration. Banks would not be making such risky loans if they thought the house was going to be washed out to sea in the next 30 years . I also assume that the emperor ,Clueless Joe and especially Bill Gates would not be making such an investment if they thought climate change would destroy their homes .

I have no problem accepting that CO2 levels are considerably higher now than 100 years ago, and that the burning of fossil fuels is the prime contributor to that. But you have to remember that CO2 is a tiny fraction of atmospheric gases and is by no means the primary greenhouse gas, so how much that will raise global temps is hard to figure. At any rate, the question is what to do about it. Other than nuclear, I don't see any solution. Wind can be a minor contributor, though the cost is a problem. I don't see solar being a major player due to those pesky cloudy days and dark nights. Natural gas seems to be the least polluting of the carbon-based fuels and thankfully we have a lot of it, but it doesn't work well for transportation.

The problem now is that the green movement is largely filled with non-thinkers like AOC, Warren, and Al Gore. And with a population that is more and more accepting of the idea that a man can be a woman as long as he really, really believes he is one, then we are setup for just about anything. I'm convinced that most of the green movement is populated by people who believe in it for no other reason than it makes them feel good.

I think the Goracle knows what is real . He just saw an opportunity to make a killing by creating a carbon trading market ;along with ethanol. He admitted that the ethanol scam was not real .

Al Gore: Votes, not science, led me to back corn ethanol (nbcnews.com) (https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna40317079)

And now that the price of gasoline is sky high, you would think that someone would suggest removing the fed subsidies for it under that general idea that if ethanol can't make it on its own now, then we just need to go back to eating corn. The problem is the Iowa primary and how that would affect its voters.