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tomder55
Jan 28, 2022, 05:46 AM
Kudos to Canadian truckers tired of the BS mandates !!
A massive convoy of trucks now stretches 44 miles long on it's way to Ottawa to protest the January 15 vax mandate for cross border truckers . Estimates say 50,000 trucks could be participating, the Toronto Sun reported.The convoy plans to reach Ottawa by Saturday for a protest.
Trucker convoy: East-coast leg of protest against vaccine mandate leaves Maritimes - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrbX5CdPxkc)
Now US truckers are joining the convoy .
WATCH: US truckers joining Canadian Convoy - The Western Standard (westernstandardonline.com) (https://westernstandardonline.com/2022/01/watch-us-truckers-joining-canadian-convoy/)
Come on and join our convoy
Ain't nothin' gonna get in our way
C.W. McCall - Convoy - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5ZLJWQmss)

Athos
Jan 28, 2022, 07:29 AM
Let us know how many of the anti-vax truckers wind up in the hospital or dead from the virus.

tomder55
Jan 28, 2022, 09:40 AM
You see the supply chain disruptions ? Like I once was ;those truckers are what they call "essential" . Tell me how your groceries get to the store without them . And don't pretend they are replaceable . As it is there is a huge shortage of truckers made worse because people don't want to carry Nazi ID cards wherever they go .

Wondergirl
Jan 28, 2022, 09:42 AM
Do you carry a Nazi ID card, tomder? I do. With pride and confidence.

tomder55
Jan 28, 2022, 09:45 AM
Here in the free land of South Carolina it is not necessary . When I travel back to NY in the spring ,I will have no choice . That's if the events I plan to attend aren't cancelled out of fear .

Wondergirl
Jan 28, 2022, 10:10 AM
But you are vaxed and ready to duel with Covid!

jlisenbe
Jan 28, 2022, 10:52 AM
But you are vaxed and ready to duel with Covid!Isn't that something of a contradiction? If you're vaxed, and if the vax works, then dueling with Covid won't be necessary, will it?

I'm walking proof the vax is not effective at prevention.

Wondergirl
Jan 28, 2022, 11:06 AM
I'm walking proof the vax is not effective at prevention.
You are walking proof the vax prevents serious illness and death.

jlisenbe
Jan 28, 2022, 11:27 AM
the vax prevents serious illnessSometimes it does. I will say that I feel seriously ill, but I do get your point. I'm not in the hospital, so that is good to say.

Wondergirl
Jan 28, 2022, 11:35 AM
Serious illness = IVs, oxygen, transfusions, infusions, surgery

jlisenbe
Jan 28, 2022, 12:12 PM
Reminds me of the old joke about major vs. minor surgery. It's minor surgery when they do it to you, and major surgery when it's done to me. So it's minor illness when you have it, but serious illness when I have it.

tomder55
Jan 29, 2022, 05:31 AM
This is exposing the rhetoric the elites used 2 years ago when they hid in their offices or worked from South Hampton homes while the essential workers the truckers, store clerks, sanitation people, bus drivers, police, or dozens of other jobs that needed to be done ,kept the nation alive . Back then it was all praise to the little people .
The average Canadian gets it .
You can tell by the thousands up thousands of Canadians braving the snow and bitter cold of the Canadian winter to go out to the highways waving flags and cheering the truckers on.
These truckers don't represent the "fringe " as Justin Trudeau dismissed them to be.

“The small fringe minority of people who are on their way to Ottawa who are holding unacceptable views that they are expressing do not represent the views of Canadians who have been there for each other, who know that following the science and stepping up to protect each other is the best way to continue to ensure our freedoms, our rights, our values, as a country,”

Back then he was thankful for the dedication to their work

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKNN9puWUAE8GNZ?format=jpg&name=small

He will pay a heavy political price for his smug arrogance.

jlisenbe
Jan 30, 2022, 07:36 AM
Just amazing. A perfect example of the risks of oppressive government. "No! You free Canadians cannot park your car on the side of the highway and support truckers who are driving by! What do you think this is, a free country or something??" This was done under an "Emergency Management Act". So evidently it is now an emergency when free people protest the dictates of an over-reaching government. How long will Canadians put up with this?


The Canadian province (https://www.foxnews.com/category/world/world-regions/canada) of Nova Scotia made it illegal for people to gather along a highway ahead of the "Freedom Convoy" of truckers that made their way across the country in protest of vaccine mandates.
The local government issued (https://novascotia.ca/news/release/?id=20220128011) "a directive under the Emergency Management Act prohibiting protesters from blockading Highway 104 near the Nova Scotia-New Brunswick border."
The directive specifically states supporters of the Freedom Convoy and another protest, the Atlantic Hold the Line event, can’t gather along Highway 104, on the Nova Scotia-New Brunswick border. The directive states that "allowing people to gather in those areas would put themselves and others at risk."

tomder55
Jan 30, 2022, 11:47 AM
As thousands of truck protesters entered Ottawa, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau beat a hasty retreat
Justin Trudeau moved to secret location during vax protests (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2022/01/30/justin-trudeau-moved-to-secret-location-during-vax-protests/)

reminds me a little ditty from Monty Python and the Holy Grail '

Brave Sir Robin Ran Away - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8IkbCeZ9to)

jlisenbe
Jan 30, 2022, 01:15 PM
Moved to a secret location? Makes it sound like the truckers are bent on violence which they plainly are not.

tomder55
Jan 31, 2022, 07:37 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKb2mrIXIAYnLXn?format=jpg&name=900x900

tomder55
Jan 31, 2022, 11:14 AM
Trudeau says that he would not attend the truckers rally because they are violent . But he gladly attended non-violent protests .... like BLM .(about the 1:10:00 mark .)
He also accused them of being Nazis Evidently they did find one protester with a Nazi flag and one with a Confederate flag.


PM Justin Trudeau addresses ongoing protest in Ottawa against vaccine mandates – January 31, 2022 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cATcIT3MnpY)

BREAKING: Trudeau accuses trucker convoy protesters of racism, vandalism | The Post Millennial (https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-trudeau-accuses-trucker-convoy-protesters-of-racism-vandalism)

jlisenbe
Feb 1, 2022, 05:41 AM
Trudeau recently said he would not give in to those who fly racist flags, engage in vandalism, or dishonor the memory of Canadian veterans. What? Wouldn't that be the BLM crowd Trudeau admires so much? It is certainly NOT this group of truckers. He later said that those who oppose mandatory vacs are racists and misogynists as well. A news report showed a person with a sign claiming the truckers were white nationalists. Sad that we have reached the point where protestors have to be connected with a host of other, negative social pathologies so that they might be more forcefully denounced. Rather than engage the serious issue the protestors are speaking about, the strategy is instead to use the power of the media to disgrace them. Not too sure it's going to work in this case. I hope not.

tomder55
Feb 1, 2022, 03:00 PM
The Mayor of Ottawa called some tow companies and asked them to start towing trucks out of the city. The tow companies reply? "We've got covid

tomder55
Feb 1, 2022, 05:15 PM
The revolt of the Canadian provinces has begun .

Saskatchewan dropping all COVID restrictions, vax passports by end of month | True North (tnc.news) (https://tnc.news/2022/02/01/saskatchewan-dropping-all-covid-restrictions-vax-passports-by-end-of-month/)

jlisenbe
Feb 2, 2022, 05:25 AM
What has become an all too common liberal response is playing out in Ottawa. 'What?? Don't agree with wonderful us?? You must be a real sick-o."
Trudeau took to Twitter late Tuesday to reference to lawmakers in Canada’s Parliament who, he said, “unanimously condemned the antisemitism, Islamaphobia, anti-Black racism, homophobia, and transphobia that we’ve seen on display in Ottawa over the past number of days.”

tomder55
Feb 2, 2022, 05:39 AM
Strawmen he can link to so called "anti-vaxers" which is another strawman(because the opposition is to 'mandatory vax or lose your job'. )How many bogeymen can he paint the "tiny minority" protests with ? Isolate and demonize . Where have we seen that playbook before ?

jlisenbe
Feb 4, 2022, 05:57 PM
Heard tonight on Fox that about 3 million protestors are expected in Ottawa by Sunday.

tomder55
Feb 5, 2022, 02:13 AM
it is getting much bigger . Toronto farm trucks and tractors arrived .

https://www.cp24.com/polopoly_fs/1.5768809!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg

Wondergirl
Feb 5, 2022, 10:03 AM
What will they eat? Are there lots of porta-potties scattered around?

tomder55
Feb 5, 2022, 03:02 PM
You shouldn't worry about what the truckers will eat You should worry about what you will eat when truckers stop delivering

Wondergirl
Feb 5, 2022, 03:33 PM
You shouldn't worry about what the truckers will eat You should worry about what you will eat when truckers stop delivering
That's already a problem. Store shelves are too often empty or nearly so. Our wonderful and persnickity cat is NOT pleased at mealtime by the cheap food we are forced to buy because it is all that is left.

tomder55
Feb 5, 2022, 04:53 PM
And why is there a supply chain issue ? Because the world went loco with mandates .

China’s Covid-19 port quarantine for shipping crew stokes delays ahead of Lunar New Year | South China Morning Post (scmp.com) (https://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3157903/chinas-covid-19-port-quarantine-shipping-crew-stokes-delays)

Handling of COVID-19 positive crew cases in China - GARD (https://www.gard.no/web/updates/content/32916389/handling-of-covid-19-positive-crew-cases-in-china)

China Locks Down City Containing One of World's Busiest Ports, Could Impact Supply Chain (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/china-locks-down-city-containing-one-worlds-busiest-ports-could-impact-supply-chain-1666863)

COVID-19: Vessel Entry into U.S. Ports in the Age of a Pandemic | HUB | K&L Gates (klgates.com) (https://www.klgates.com/covid-19_vessel-entry-into-us-ports-in-the-age-of-a-pandemic)
Then there are idiotic California rules where only "clean trucks " can enter the port areas .So clean trucks go to the port to pick up containers .. Then when they leave the port area they off load to other trucks to travel to the container's destination.

Clean Truck Program | Air Quality | Port of Los Angeles (https://www.portoflosangeles.org/environment/air-quality/clean-truck-program)

and of course we have already the still unresolved issue of container piracy at the LA train terminal

jlisenbe
Feb 5, 2022, 05:57 PM
You should worry about what you will eat when truckers stop deliveringI laughed out loud at that one.


Then there are idiotic California rules where only "clean trucks " can enter the port areas .So clean trucks go to the port to pick up containers .. Then when they leave the port area they off load to other trucks to travel to the container's destination.It's what happens when the liberal dems go wild. Every time I think I've heard it all, something like this comes out. It's just unreal and so sad what is going on in our country.

Wondergirl
Feb 5, 2022, 06:01 PM
It's what happens when the liberal dems go wild. Every time I think I've heard it all, something like this comes out. It's just unreal and so sad what is going on in our country.
At least those "liberal dems" aren't wanting to ban books.

jlisenbe
Feb 5, 2022, 06:18 PM
You mean the porn books about men having sex with boys which liberal dems want middle schoolers reading? Those wonderful books? The ones with graphic illustrations about homosexual activity between men and boys? Really? You support that? Because those are the only books concerning which there has been any real repub suggestions about banning as well they should be.

Wondergirl
Feb 5, 2022, 08:17 PM
You are ill informed. Banned, not only for kids, but for adults. Those books and more. Books adults and kids, with parents supervising, need to read.

jlisenbe
Feb 5, 2022, 08:43 PM
Tell me about books banned for adults and about banned books which parents need to read with their kids. Please be specific.

jlisenbe
Feb 5, 2022, 08:50 PM
I’m speaking of books actually banned by repubs. Specific instances please.

Wondergirl
Feb 5, 2022, 09:22 PM
I’m speaking of books actually banned by repubs. Specific instances please.
Oh, they aren't banned yet, but a long list has been made. And a great deal of publicity and warnings are out about republican governors and state reps and other lawmakers hoping to ban books from school libraries. Here are a few:

To kill a mockingbird - Harper Lee
The complete Maus - Art Spiegelman
The bluest eye - Toni Morrison
Fallen angels - Walter Dean Myers
Speak - Laurie Halse Anderson
Gender queer - Maia Kobabe

tomder55
Feb 6, 2022, 02:47 AM
There is no bridge from California clean truck regulations to book banning . It is a bridge too far. But since the topic has drifted completely off the rail ,I would point out that 'To Kill a Mockingbird' was originally banned by Jim Crow Dems

The most recently banning of the book was justified because it has a White author and it has a White savior . That happened in a Seattle school district .

“Atticus Finch, of course is in everyone’s memory the great hero of the book, but in fact he was kind of tolerant of the racism around him. He described one of the members of the lynch mob as a good man.”
Mukilteo School District removes ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’ from required reading list | The Seattle Times (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/education/mukilteo-school-district-removes-to-kill-a-mockingbird-from-required-reading-list/)

If you are looking for recent trends in moves towards censorship and cancelling ,it is in literature and media depictions of the so called "white savior" . Some critically acclaimed movies like 'The Help; 'Mississippi Burning';'The Blind Side' depict white savior heroes .


And it is not only in literature by the way . Missionaries , White volunteers who help minorities ,white teachers trying to save minority students ,whites who adopt minority children have all been labeled as 'white saviors '.

There is some validity to this critique . Progressive policies like eugenics was instrumental in the shaping of American social and imperial foreign policy at the end of the 19th century . Teddy Roosevelt was a leading progressive of his day. Imperialism may be discredited today . But social progressive eugenics policies like pro-abortion live on.

He was once lauded as an example of a progressive social reformer . Now they take down his statue because his progressive policies are being reconsidered as racist . But his progressive liberal social polices endure . The nanny state has it's roots in white savior attitudes .

jlisenbe
Feb 6, 2022, 05:42 AM
Oh, they aren't banned yet, but a long list has been made.This is why I have learned to ask for specifics on this site. You said earlier, "Banned, not only for kids, but for adults. Those books and more. Books adults and kids, with parents supervising, need to read." Now it turns out that no books have been banned from adults. Oh well.

You managed to slip Gender Queer into your list, a book which is plainly porn, includes graphic illustrations and descriptions of sex, and in no way is in the same literary category as To Kill a Mockingbird. I have said it has no business in school libraries. You seem to disagree with that which is puzzling in the extreme.

This part of the issues in Cali was just amazing. "Then there are idiotic California rules where only "clean trucks " can enter the port areas .So clean trucks go to the port to pick up containers .. Then when they leave the port area they off load to other trucks to travel to the container's destination." It's just an incredible snapshot of the craziness of the whole system. Nothing gets accomplished other than driving up the costs of transportation. It's why I have come to love the Gospel so much. Among other things, it is an island of sanity and reason in this crazy world.

Wondergirl
Feb 6, 2022, 11:15 AM
This is why I have learned to ask for specifics on this site. You said earlier, "Banned, not only for kids, but for adults. Those books and more. Books adults and kids, with parents supervising, need to read." Now it turns out that no books have been banned from adults. Oh well.
The word "libraries" is generally used when book banning is threatened. That term includes public libraries. Children AND adults use public libraries.

You managed to slip Gender Queer into your list, a book which is plainly porn, includes graphic illustrations and descriptions of sex, and in no way is in the same literary category as To Kill a Mockingbird. I have said it has no business in school libraries. You seem to disagree with that which is puzzling in the extreme.
How do you know it's porn? Have you read it? How will parents talk with their children about gender issues? Gender Queer would be a good beginning.

To Kill a Mockingbird: Challenged at the Moss Point, Miss. School District (1996) because the novel contains a racial epithet. Banned from the Lindale,Tex. advanced placement English reading list (1996) because the book "conflicted with the values of the community." Challenged by a Glynn County, Ga. (2001) school board member because of profanity. The novel was retained. Returned to the freshman reading list at Muskogee, Okla. High School (2001) despite complaints over the years from black students and parents about racial slurs in the text. Challenged in the Normal, ILL Community High Schools sophomore literature class (2003) as being degrading to African Americans. Challenged at the Stanford Middle School in Durham, N.C. (2004) because the 1961 Pulitzer Prize-winning novel uses the word "nigger."
Source: 2004 Banned Books Resource Guide

P.S. Just searched my public library's online catalog for Maus. The book is checked out with seven holds on it. Book banning talk increases book reading!

jlisenbe
Feb 6, 2022, 01:21 PM
How do you know it's porn? Have you read it? I've read descriptions of it. Generally speaking, books with graphic descriptions and illustrations of sex are porn. Now perhaps you approve of sex between children? I don't know if you do or not, but this book is porn. I do know that your political views seem to never, ever, ever allow you to make a comment that could be construed in any way as something other than outright support of homosexual activities. That strikes me as unfortunate. And your idea that parents and children must read hard porn in order to discuss gender issues is crazy beyond belief. My wife and I spoke with our children about these issues. It never required reading hard porn.

Your comments about libraries and books are fine. You still have no hard instances of books being banned. Conjecture does not count.

Wondergirl
Feb 6, 2022, 02:32 PM
I've read descriptions of it. Generally speaking, books with graphic descriptions and illustrations of sex are porn. Now perhaps you approve of sex between children? I don't know if you do or not, but this book is porn. I do know that your political views seem to never, ever, ever allow you to make a comment that could be construed in any way as something other than outright support of homosexual activities. That strikes me as unfortunate. And your idea that parents and children must read hard porn in order to discuss gender issues is crazy beyond belief. My wife and I spoke with our children about these issues. It never required reading hard porn.
Oh, now it's HARD porn. And the Bible has soft porn in it. What's wrong with homosexuality? How have you discussed gender issues with your kids and grandkids?

Your comments about libraries and books are fine. You still have no hard instances of books being banned. Conjecture does not count.
Books have been banned or threatened to be banned every time you blink your eyes.

What does banning accomplish? As I posted earlier, "Book banning talk increases book reading!"

jlisenbe
Feb 6, 2022, 03:03 PM
Books have been bannedPlease be specific.

If you believe the Bible, homosexual behavior is sin. Even if you don't believe the Bible, it is against the clear design of nature.

There is no porn in the Bible.

I've already told you we discussed "gender issues" with our kids. My grandchild is 15 months old.

Wondergirl
Feb 6, 2022, 03:28 PM
If you believe the Bible, homosexual behavior is sin. Even if you don't believe the Bible, it is against the clear design of nature.
"The clear design of nature" went topsy-turvy in Genesis 3, and unlimited possibilities began.

There is no porn in the Bible.
Read the Bible.

I've already told you we discussed "gender issues" with our kids.
Please give a summary.

jlisenbe
Feb 6, 2022, 03:31 PM
Please be specific.If you can't be specific, then you really should abandon the argument.

Your assessment of Genesis 3 has no support in the Bible unless you are prepared to say that those possibilities are sin.

Have read the Bible many, many times. No porn.

I'm not going to give a summary. It would be silly and pointless.

Wondergirl
Feb 6, 2022, 03:57 PM
Have read the Bible many, many times. No porn.
Here's one instance:

Genesis 19. Drunken Lot and his two daughters in a cave.


I'm not going to give a summary. It would be silly and pointless.
Silly and pointless because it never happened.

jlisenbe
Feb 6, 2022, 03:58 PM
There are no graphic descriptions of sex and the story does not have the objective of simply arousing sexual desire. Most people find the account to be offensive and sinful as well they should. It is decidedly not porn. If that's the best you have, then you are finished.

You need to read a definition of what porn is.

Wondergirl
Feb 6, 2022, 04:05 PM
There are no graphic descriptions of sex and the story does not have the objective of simply arousing sexual desire. Most people find the account to be offensive and sinful as well they should. It is decidedly not porn. If that's the best you have, then you are finished.

You need to read a definition of what porn is.
Reading erotic fiction and non-fiction et al. causes the creation of pictures in one's head thus, Sunday School and Bible class teachers avoid this story (and others).

jlisenbe
Feb 6, 2022, 04:52 PM
I guess you think the story of Lot and his daughters is erotic. Pretty sure the average person does not since they regard a man getting his own daughters pregnant to be sickening. I've never seen anyone avoid this story. The lesson is very valuable.

We have reached our usual impasse. I wish you the best in your life and the hubster as well. God bless your family.

tomder55
Feb 6, 2022, 07:13 PM
To Kill a Mockingbird: Challenged at the Moss Point, Miss. School District (1996) because the novel contains a racial epithet. Banned from the Lindale,Tex. advanced placement English reading list (1996) because the book "conflicted with the values of the community." Challenged by a Glynn County, Ga. (2001) school board member because of profanity. The novel was retained. Returned to the freshman reading list at Muskogee, Okla. High School (2001) despite complaints over the years from black students and parents about racial slurs in the text. Challenged in the Normal, ILL Community High Schools sophomore literature class (2003) as being degrading to African Americans. Challenged at the Stanford Middle School in Durham, N.C. (2004) because the 1961 Pulitzer Prize-winning novel uses the word "nigger."
Source: 2004 Banned Books Resource Guide

I linked to the most recent banning of Mockingbird which was within the month . It was a district in Seattle . It had nothing to do with the stereotype of what the south was in 1996 .

Wondergirl
Feb 6, 2022, 07:21 PM
Yep, tomder. I posted all that in #38.

tomder55
Feb 6, 2022, 07:39 PM
you reference 2004 banned books list . I was referencing the banning of Mockingbird by a liberal district in this school year .

Mukilteo School District removes ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’ from required reading list | The Seattle Times (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/education/mukilteo-school-district-removes-to-kill-a-mockingbird-from-required-reading-list/)

Banned and challenged for racial slurs and their negative effect on students, featuring a “white savior” character, and its perception of the Black experience.

jlisenbe
Feb 6, 2022, 07:46 PM
There is a vast difference between removing a book from a required reading list versus “banning” it.

tomder55
Feb 7, 2022, 10:08 AM
Truck Freedom convoy going international

Worldwide Movement: Massive Freedom Convoy Formed in Helsinki, Finland - [your]NEWS (yournews.com) (https://yournews.com/2022/02/05/2294649/worldwide-movement-massive-freedom-convoy-formed-in-helsinki-finland/)

Protests highlight Finnish frustrations at ongoing COVID restrictions | Euronews (https://www.euronews.com/2022/02/04/protests-highlight-finnish-frustrations-at-ongoing-covid-restrictions)


Canada’s ‘Freedom Convoy’ inspires protests abroad | The Star (https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2022/02/03/canadas-freedom-convoy-is-inspiring-protests-in-other-countries.html)

Police Go After Australians Protesting for Medical Freedom – PJ Media (https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/chris-queen/2022/02/05/police-go-after-australians-protesting-for-medical-freedom-n1556419)

jlisenbe
Feb 7, 2022, 02:45 PM
Amazing how my view of the Aussies has changed over the past couple of years.

tomder55
Feb 8, 2022, 07:29 PM
Alberta is the 1st province to cave .

COVID-19 Live Updates: News on coronavirus in Calgary for Feb. 8 | Calgary Herald (https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/covid-19-update-survey-suggests-majority-of-canadians-opposed-to-protests-alberta-to-announce-plan-to-lift-restrictions-this-week-notley-accuses-kenney-of-pandering-to-protesters)

jlisenbe
Feb 8, 2022, 08:01 PM
Fantastic. It's time to move on.

tomder55
Feb 14, 2022, 08:00 AM
convoy freedom israel trucks are coming in - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1BB5Yi7FJs)

France: Police fire tear gas to stop ‘Freedom Convoy’ in Paris - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAwFUFVWJu8)

New Zealand police arrest Covid trucker protesters as Canada 'freedom convoy' spreads (nbcnews.com) (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/new-zealand-police-arrest-covid-truckers-canada-freedom-convoy-protest-rcna15667)

‘Freedom Convoy’ Rally in Belgium’s La Louviere Before Hitting Road to Brussels - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P98icukaGu4)

COVID-19: Thousands in Austria protest mandatory vaccines, restrictions - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHF5Ae3NV2k)

tomder55
Feb 18, 2022, 07:39 PM
demonstrators trampled by Canadian mounted police .

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL6tHBaXwAcK1s5?format=jpg&name=small

The Vigilant Fox 🦊 on Twitter: "Ottawa Police Horses Trample Protestors Increasing Tensions Between Protestors and Police Credit: https://t.co/54dcfpPRvY (https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1494808224008179714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1494816012084166658%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fvideo-appears-show-police-horses-trampling-canadian-trucker-protesters-1680847) https://t.co/yAbVsAQcsn" / Twitter

tomder55
Feb 18, 2022, 08:03 PM
Trudeau's Deputy and Finance Minister , Chrystia Freeland, is also a director of Klaus Schwab’s World Economic Forum which is best known as the entity behind all those rick people's meetings at Davos ,

She says she plans to make Canada's emergency powers permanent.



not inklessPW �� on Twitter: "Just now Chrystia Freeland details how some Emergency Act powers will be made permanent. (we actually thought she might wait a few days before enacting a permanent police state) https://t.co/HavsTUeo0P" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/inklesspw/status/1494752731441123328)

tomder55
Feb 19, 2022, 07:05 AM
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tomder55
Feb 20, 2022, 04:54 AM
This is how the Mounties flatten the curve
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL6tHBaXwAcK1s5?format=jpg&name=small

Image shows 2 people trampled One is a man in a brown coat. The other is an elderly woman in a red coat and a walker . video footage here
Daniel James Dulhunty on Twitter: "Another camera angle of the incident shows the elderly woman trampled by police horse in Ottawa. https://t.co/xrK4s5JHoX" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/dulhunty/status/1494850734130892802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1494850734130892802%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Feurope%2 F2022%2F02%2F19%2Fwatch-canada-protestors-trampled-by-police-horses-100-arrested%2F)

Wondergirl
Feb 20, 2022, 11:03 AM
They weren't trampled. Look closely. The horse hopped over them. Both were helped up and then walked away, the woman with a person assisting her. (And why was an elderly woman -- using a wheeled walker (mobility scooter) -- in the front row of protesters???)

tomder55
Feb 20, 2022, 11:50 AM
The woman's name is Candice Sero ,She is an indigenous Mohawk and had every right to be at the protest. She was there to support the fight against vaccine mandates. She doesn't appear to be in the" front row" as the Mounties drove a wedge through the crowd . The trampling she took was enough to send her to the hospital with a shoulder injury. She has been released .

Wondergirl
Feb 20, 2022, 11:54 AM
I didn't say she had no right to be there. Her fall to the pavement was enough to cause a shoulder injury. Again, she was NOT trampled!

jlisenbe
Feb 20, 2022, 12:21 PM
Unfortunately for her, she was not a BLM protestor. If that had been the case, then the story would be at the top of every news site for a week. Being merely a conservative, we are instead assured that she was NOT trampled.

Wondergirl
Feb 20, 2022, 12:38 PM
Trampled is trampled. Knocked over is knocked over.

jlisenbe
Feb 20, 2022, 12:43 PM
And wrong is wrong. When the border patrol agents were NOT using split reins to whip illegal border crossers, you had a fit, but when mounted police basically run over a peaceful protestor using a walker, you seem to be fine with that. Strange.

Your point is fair enough. She apparently was not trampled (walked on by the horse), but instead was violently knocked over by the horse. Are we to feel better about that?

Wondergirl
Feb 20, 2022, 12:45 PM
Not true. I hadn't reacted as you claim. Stop trying to start a war with me.

The horse bumped up against her (want me to tell you how fragilely balanced a woman on a walker is?), then the horse behind that horse jumped over her fallen body. Apparently, you've never ridden a horse that has an obstacle on the ground in front of it.

tomder55
Feb 20, 2022, 01:35 PM
100,000 trucks in the protest throughout the country . No stores looted . No arson incidents , So far the only violence I've seen is the Mounties riding their horses through protesters and over protesters ;and a terrorist attack on a gas link pipeline by eco -terrorists wielding axes that caused $millions in damage But son of Fidel ,Justin Trudeau ,thinks the truckers are the terrorists .
'This has gone way too far': Investigators begin probing violent attack on Coastal GasLink site | Financial Post (https://financialpost.com/commodities/energy/oil-gas/this-has-gone-way-too-far-investigators-begin-probing-violent-attack-on-coastal-gaslink-site)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMEEr1xX0AIDTF2?format=png&name=small


She drinks Tim Hortons Coffee . The best brand I've tasted .

Wondergirl
Feb 20, 2022, 01:41 PM
They (the truckers) started it! And in doing so, they made fools of themselves and messed up the economy even worse than it was. There are much more constructive ways to protest.

tomder55
Feb 20, 2022, 02:02 PM
yeah I know ...... <sarc> mostly peaceful </sarc>

Wondergirl
Feb 20, 2022, 02:05 PM
Good luck finding stuff on your shopping list.

jlisenbe
Feb 20, 2022, 02:30 PM
Like I said earlier, if this was a BLM protest with burning buildings and the destruction of private and public property with mounted police injuring protestors, then the liberals would be singing a different tune.


They (the truckers) started itI imagine the Brits used the same argument against the Boston Tea Party patriots.

tomder55
Feb 20, 2022, 02:31 PM
I did not hear you raise this concern when truckers were prevented from picking up freight in California ports .

There were supply chain shortages before the trucker protest . Ironically one of the reasons they are protesting is that they WANT TO DO THEIR JOBS ;but are deprived from crossing the border without draconian unnecessary vax mandates .

I had a simple rule in my plant . Truckers were to back up to the bay with their trailer open . My warehouse people were to off load or load the cargo . Truckers were allowed into the plant to 1 . inspect their trailer after the load/off load 2 . To sign off on invoices and BOLs . 3. Use the bathrooms . When they entered the plant they signed waivers and had a temperature test .
There was almost no exposure in the plant because of truckers . So I was not concerned about their vax status .

Besides back in the early days of covid ,truckers were vital "essential " workers and were given many waivers from the rules the government imposed on the rest of the nation.

Something happened and the power we gave the government went to their heads .Essential workers of the past are now demonized . Meanwhile the CDC lies and withholds vital information to policy makers .

The C.D.C. Isn’t Publishing Large Portions of the Covid Data It Collects - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/health/covid-cdc-data.html)

Wondergirl
Feb 20, 2022, 02:34 PM
Like I said earlier. If this was a BLM protest with burning buildings and the destruction of private and public property with mounted police injuring protestors, then the liberals would be singing a different tune.
BLM protest? Fine.

Burning buildings and the destruction of private and public property? Nope. Opportunists at work.

jlisenbe
Feb 20, 2022, 02:45 PM
Isn't that exactly what the truckers are doing? A protest with no burning buildings and no destruction of property, and still we've yet to see you post, "Fine."

Wondergirl
Feb 20, 2022, 03:02 PM
No destruction of property? How about no interference with traffic and city life and commerce? Wonder why car prices are sky high?

As I posted earlier in this thread, there are much more constructive ways to protest.

tomder55
Feb 20, 2022, 03:53 PM
How about no interference with traffic and city life and commerce?
Did not hear such concern when the Occupy movement and the CHOP in Seattle and various occupation zones like the one by city hall in NYC were ongoing .

jlisenbe
Feb 20, 2022, 04:05 PM
Exactly correct. It's all politically driven.

tomder55
Feb 20, 2022, 04:05 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMD_xIJWQAoWg-q?format=jpg&name=small

tomder55
Feb 20, 2022, 04:12 PM
Here is Son of Fidel Trudeau taking the knee against police brutality
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMDgwATXIAsBt-U?format=jpg&name=small

tomder55
Feb 20, 2022, 05:29 PM
Ottawa police are going shop to shop and forcing ones like coffee shops that served the truckers to shut down.

Trudeau’s Police Are Going After The Iconic Cafe, A Small Business That Served Truckers — The National Telegraph (https://thenationaltelegraph.com/national/trudeaus-police-are-going-after-the-iconic-cafe-a-small-business-that-served-truckers)

jlisenbe
Feb 20, 2022, 09:19 PM
What a sad deal that Canada has come to this.

tomder55
Feb 21, 2022, 02:02 AM
A New Mexico Rep has a great idea. We need truckers in this country . Son of Fidel Trudeau is using an emergency declaration to persecute Canadian truckers. Canada was a place where Americans went to for political asylum during the Vietnam war. Canada did change their laws to make it tougher for Americans to seek asylum there . Now Americans have to seek asylum from inside the US .

Representative Yvette Herrell on social media said that she plans to introduce legislation that would grant asylum to Canadian convoy protesters who are “being persecuted” by the Trudeau government.“We cannot be silent as our neighbors to the north are treated so badly” .
US congresswoman proposes asylum for Canadian protesters – Toronto 99 (https://www.toronto99.com/2022/02/20/us-congresswoman-proposes-asylum-for-canadian-protesters/)
“Just as we provide asylum for political prisoners, we should do the same for truckers who have been subjected to violence, had their property confiscated, and their bank accounts frozen by a government that is quickly becoming the embarrassment of the free world”
Native Cherokee ,Herrell is a real native American unlike the blond hair blue eyed "native American " who Represents Massachusetts in the Senate.

tomder55
Feb 21, 2022, 07:24 AM
Add religious liberty that is under assault in Canada . Artur Pawlowski is a pastor in Calgary who supports the trucker protest .At a rally he urged the truckers to continue their non-violent protest . “May God help us all, because we don’t fight with guns and swords,” he said to truckers gathered for a freedom convoy rally. “We don’t fight with Tasers and the police vehicles. We don’t. We just want to go back and work hard and achieve something and provide for our families. We just want to be left alone.”

He made parallels between the Freedom Convoy and Poland's Solidarity movement that ultimately led to the liberation of his native Poland .
For that he was arrested . He has spent the past week in Calgary Remand Centre in solitary confinement for 23 hours per day. Bail has been denied .

jlisenbe
Feb 21, 2022, 07:51 AM
Any pastor in Canada who is critical of the homosexual lifestyle can be subjected to prosecution. Unreal.

tomder55
Feb 22, 2022, 05:37 AM
Canadian lawmakers extend emergency powers act for truck protests : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082229612/canadian-lawmakers-extend-emergency-powers-act-for-truck-protests)

tomder55
Feb 22, 2022, 11:53 AM
This is what it costs an 18 wheeler trucker for a fill up

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3 times a week that is $2100 to get goods to your store .

How many gallons does it take to fill up a big rig? - FreightWaves (https://www.freightwaves.com/news/how-many-gallons-does-it-take-to-fill-up-a-big-rig)

jlisenbe
Feb 22, 2022, 04:03 PM
Bound to be Cali. Not that high in my neck of the woods. That's a good bit over 4 bucks a gal.

tomder55
Feb 22, 2022, 04:42 PM
probably diesel is not over $4 in SC YET but getting close .

tomder55
Mar 25, 2022, 04:32 AM
update .

Unreported in the US and Canadian compliant press (except the Toronto Sun) was the greeting Trudeau got from fellow leaders at the EU summit .

Christine Anderson ,a German member of the EU Parliament called him a disgrace for trampling on “fundamental rights by criminalizing his own citizens as terrorists just because they dare to stand up to his perverted concept of democracy. "

"You are a disgrace": German MP calls out Trudeau to his face | News(dailyhive.com) (https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/justin-trudeau-german-mp-chrstine-anderson)

Christine Anderson on Twitter: "��������|Yesterday, Canada's Prime Minister @JustinTrudeau visited the #EU Parliament to give a speech. I took the opportunity to give him an appropriate "welcome" there. Short, concise and right hitting the bull's eye! #ID https://t.co/qpcQyGTixQ" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/AndersonAfDMdEP/status/1506905594623574020?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1506905594623574020%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftorontosun.com%2Fnews%2Fworl d%2Fdictatorship-of-the-worst-kind-european-mps-blast-trudeau-for-covid-rights-violation)

MEP Mislav Kolakusic of Croatia said “There are those among us who trample on those fundamental values,”“For many of us are fundamental human rights for which millions of citizens of Europe and the world have laid down their lives,” Kolakusic said in front of Trudeau
“To defend our rights and the rights of our children, which we have acquired over the centuries, many of us, including myself, are willing to risk, our freedom and our own lives.”
Kolakusic said Canada was once a symbol of the modern world but in recent months has become a “symbol of civil rights violation” under Trudeau’s “quasi-liberal boot.”
“We watched how you trample women with horses, how you block bank accounts of single parents so they can’t even pay their children’s education and medicine, that they can’t pay utilities, mortgages for their homes,” “To you, these may be liberal methods, for many citizens of the world, it is a dictatorship of the worst kind.”

The MP from Romania ,Cristian Terhes ,refused to attend Trudeau's address to the gathering .
"I refused to validate by my presence the facade of the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who gave a speech before the Plenary of the European Parliament on 23.03.2022, it was the reason for which I was not in the room when he spoke."You can't come and teach democracy lessons to Putin from the European Parliament when you trample with horse hooves your own citizens who are demanding that their fundamental rights be respected."When you, a politician from the "west", implement in your home methods of repression and the trampling of the rights of your own citizens, who demand their rights be respected, as Putin does at home, you are no better than him.""On the contrary, through the tyranny that you’re implementing you add deceit and hypocrisy, destroying liberty and “western” values.""These imposter leaders of today’s west have brought the world into the chaos we find ourselves in today, precisely because they have strayed from the values that made the "west" a free and prosperous world."The departure of western leaders from these values (individual liberty, respect for rights and freedoms, etc.) not only made them lose their moral ascendancy, but allowed the rise of tyrants like Putin.""Between the Russian imperialist tyranny, promoted by Putin, and the neo-Marxist tyranny pretending to be progressivism promoted by the likes of Trudeau, in which people are deprived of their rights and freedoms, becoming objects of the state, I do not choose any."

(translated from below )


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German MEP Bernhard Zimniok said “Clearly the values of democracy are being despised by this individual,” “Let us not give someone like this any speaking time in this house of democracy.”

tomder55
Jul 28, 2022, 06:21 PM
Dutch farmers have taken the hand off from the Canadian truckers. The Dutch are the 2nd largest agri-exporting nation. But the EU enviro-wackos want to smack them down with restrictions on fertilizers and live stock numbers. The goal is to reduce ammonia and nitrogen emissions created by half by the end of the decade . These emissions are a byproduct of cattle doing what comes naturally .

Dutch farmers and facing pressure from out of control inflation ;and energy supplies caused by the Ukraine war. The farmers also did not take to kindly to the police shooting at them.

So the farmers have been blocking traffic with their equipment ,dumping manure on the highways ;setting bails of hay on fire


https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox5ny.com/www.fox5ny.com/content/uploads/2022/07/764/432/dutch-farmer-protest.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW7ucNHWIAYdl2c?format=jpg&name=small

tomder55
Dec 2, 2022, 05:47 AM
Trudeau is praising Chinese covid lockdown protesters .

“Everyone in China should be allowed to protest. We will continue to ensure that China knows we will stand for human rights and with people who are expressing themselves."

He really has a short term memory .

How did he handle covid policy protesters ? He used pepper spray, tow trucks, bank account freezes, Bitcoin seizures, child removals from homes, and arrests of protest leaders to end a Canadian truck strike .

Pepper spray, tow trucks, and Bitcoin seizures: How Canada finally ended the weeks-long Freedom Convoy protests in Ottawa (yahoo.com) (https://www.yahoo.com/video/pepper-spray-tow-trucks-bitcoin-110922609.html)