Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying were tenured professors at Evergreen State College . That was until they objected to a day in 2017 where white students were asked to leave campus for the day .They did not care for the woke idea of resegregation in the name of social justice . They weren't fired because of their tenure status . Instead they were smeared across campus as racists .They faced threats serious enough to have to leave town to protect their families . They lost friends and finally resigned.

But they refused to be silenced .They have since set up a podcast called 'Dark Horse '
Bret Weinstein - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi5N_uAqApEUIlg32QzkPlg)
5 million views because they take on controversial subjects .

They were among the first to suggest that covid came from the Wuhan lab. The censors at YouTube have warned them about content ;and they were given a "strike " for being proponents of ivermectin as a treatment for covid . Whether you agree with them or not ,they bring up important issues and the high tech censors of the world are the equivalent of the book burners of the past

Lot of controversy there definately not woke

hint ivermectin is cheap therefore it's use is discouraged .

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infectio... : American Journal of Therapeutics (lww.com) (https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Abstract/9000/Ivermectin_for_Prevention_and_Treatment_of.98040.a spx)

In nations where the delta variant(aka the India variant ) is rampaging ,ivermectin could be a key treatment , The FDA warns against it because it doesn't cost enough .Oh they say there is not enough evidence .But doctors all over the world recommend it . So I guess doctors are now in that group of people who 'don't follow the science'

I like the way you spin stuff...part of your charm I guess. 8D I just prefer a deeper dive on the subject...naw I got no charm! *(

Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 | FDA (https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19)

I dealt with the FDA for years . They are a good watchdog organization when their palms aren't getting greased .

FDA Chemist, Drug Manufacturers Charged in Bribery Probe (apnews.com) (https://apnews.com/article/7c1c381eaab4dfd7c91d26a38b5759ec)

Hidden conflicts? Pharma payments to FDA advisers after drug approvals spark ethical concerns | Science | AAAS (sciencemag.org) (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/07/hidden-conflicts-pharma-payments-fda-advisers-after-drug-approvals-spark-ethical)

An FDA Whistleblower's Documents: Commerce, Corruption and Death (madinamerica.com) (https://www.madinamerica.com/2020/08/fda-whistleblowers-documents-commerce-corruption-death/)

The FDA warns against it (ivermectin) because it doesn't cost enough

Geez, is there any conspiracy you don't like?

I dealt with the FDA for years . They are a good watchdog organization when their palms aren't getting greased .

So is any dope dealer, capitalist, politician, businessman, or dictator. Let's see your hands if you don't mind. Just asking.

Mine are EMPTY.

lol I kept a GMP plant. Not only was my plant routinely audited by the FDA ;but also the Aussie TGA which is frankly much tougher .We also were subject to independent audits by the Global Food Safety Initiative (GFSI) of which we were certified to manufacture global products under their seal .AND we were routinely inspected by at least 3 kosher agencies and were approved to manufacture kosher products .

It is an intense experience being audited .We had no notification of when an auditor would visit and had to be prepared all times . The added pressure was that each auditor had their own notion of what compliance meant. Add to the fact that most of the FDA inspectors were young guns trying to make a name for themselves before they moved on to a big Pharma job with the big bucks .

hint ivermectin is cheap therefore it's use is discouraged .

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infectio... : American Journal of Therapeutics (lww.com) (https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Abstract/9000/Ivermectin_for_Prevention_and_Treatment_of.98040.a spx)

In nations where the delta variant(aka the India variant ) is rampaging ,ivermectin could be a key treatment , The FDA warns against it because it doesn't cost enough .Oh they say there is not enough evidence .But doctors all over the world recommend it . So I guess doctors are now in that group of people who 'don't follow the science'

Doctors and science, medicine is not a science it is one step above voodoo, most doctors rely on pharma publicity but pharma is not about cure, since to cure cuts into profits. Anti viral drugs should be effective against a virus but today unless something is 100% effective it is not used HCQ is also effective but not used, it is cheap and readily available

ut today unless something is 100% effective it is not used HCQ is also effective but not used, it is cheap and readily available

thank you I said that months ago .

the cancel culture wants us to cancel words and phrases that they deem are offensive . The list assembles by the Prevention, Advocacy and Resource Center (PARC) website at Brandeis University will keep Babylon Bee busy for months .
Oppressive Language List | Holding Ourselves Accountable | Prevention, Advocacy & Resource Center | Brandeis University (https://www.brandeis.edu/parc/accountability/oppressivelanguagelist.html)

Expressions like "rule of thumb," "killing it," and even "picnic" have to go in their dictates.
Rule of thumb allegedly is an old English expression apparently derived from a rule that said men could only beat their wives with sticks no thicker than their thumbs . Picnic according to their fractured fairytale should be banned because allegedly white people would attend a lynching while eating a picnic. Killing it is obvious only if you completely ignore the modern use of the phrase.

I have argued before that the left tries to control debate by changing the meaning of words to their liking .This is just another example of that .
But when it become a matter of public law it becomes absurd and dangerous .Portland with all their rioting is more concerned with gender neutral pronouns . It is all about control as Humpty Dumpty said .
Portland's Attack on Gendered Pronouns Is About Forcing Obedience | Opinion (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/portlands-attack-gendered-pronouns-about-forcing-obedience-opinion-1547740)

so I wonder what they would do with drop bears, no worries, up yours mate! flipping the bird and where did you say that lynching was being held?

the lynching reference was historical and probably a myth . This language cancellation may be an American phenonium . Do you have anything similar infecting your popular culture ? Ironically the word 'lynch ' is not on the list .

No, but the old stryne is being forgotten, we can no longer shoot through like a Bondi or Glenelg tram or wear our Reg Grundies on the outside and the hoppers are in short supply these days. Interesting comment though on pop culture, two naked men sunbathing were startled by a deer, rescued by Police and fined $1,000 each for breaching the covid lockdown. Something strange is happening

They needed police rescue from a deer ? When they shed their clothing did they also shed their manhood ? The police commissioner said “It’s difficult to legislate against idiots” . True What kind of deer do they have in Aussie ? The only way a deer would attack someone here is if that person threatened a doe . Deer here flee 1st (at least in the neighborhood I lived in NY .Half my neighbors hunted deer ) .


The commish also said“But clearly putting people at risk by leaving home without a proper reason … and then getting lost in the national park and diverting important resources away from the health operation, I think they should be embarrassed.”

Think about that . Free people needing permission to leave home .
His point about wasting resources to rescue the morons is valid . The commish's presser was interrupted by a bearded heckler ;who declared himself to be the “prime creator of the Earth.” He said ; “Did you receive my cease and desist notice?”

Are you sure this story was not from the 'Onion ' or 'Babylon Bee ' ?

two naked men sunbathing were startled by a deer, rescued by Police and fined $1,000 each for breaching the covid lockdown. Something strange is happeningThat would certainly qualify as "strange". I thought of the Bee as well, but it's evidently a legit story. And they had to call the cops to be rescued from a deer? And they evidently were still naked when the cops arrived? VERY strange.

"Fuller described the pair as 'idiots' ". Hard to argue with that.

https://news.yahoo.com/police-rescue-spooked-nude-sunbathers-062413134.html


Think about that . Free people needing permission to leave home .oxymoron

todays listers are Rappers Bryson Grey and Patriot J have had a song with the opening line “They might ban me for this song” . They were right .

Their song criticizing BLM was banned by Spotify .

They might ban me for this song, but this is how I’m rocking
Can’t be trans ’cause it ain’t real, they need a mental asylum

Bryson Gray - Safe Space (Lyrics) ft Patriot J - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQDrYl4tYY0)

Patriot J said that if tech platforms really wanted to ban “hatred,” most mainstream rap songs would have to be banned as well.“The ban just shines a spotlight on how far Big Tech is willing to take their censorship of dissenting views,” “Spotify and SoundCloud don’t actually care about allegedly ‘hateful’ or ‘violent’ songs being on their platform, because if that were the case, they’d have taken down almost all of the popular rap songs on their platforms.”

“We were silenced for being brave enough to go against the radical left agenda, and now we’re paying the price. Just another day in Joe Biden’s America!”

oxymoron

Look who's citing oxymoron - too funny!

“We were silenced for being brave enough to go against the radical left agenda, and now we’re paying the price. Just another day in Joe Biden’s America!”What's really surprising is that there are still at least some in the music business with the courage to do this. I find that to be a good sign. And it certainly is, "Just another day in Joe Biden's America."

What's really surprising is that there are still at least some in the music business with the courage to do this. I find that to be a good sign.

Do you still find roasted babies a good sign?

You're lying again. Kind of a habit with you, isn't it?

You're lying again. Kind of a habit with you, isn't it?

This, from the liar-in-chief! Too funny.

You show me where I've lied and we can discuss it. Otherwise, Mr. Aquinas, you are the guilty party.

You show me where I've lied and we can discuss it. Otherwise, Mr. Aquinas, you are the guilty party.

No point. You have NEVER discussed it when caught - just denied it. We're on to you.

In other words, you have no place to refer to. Just as I thought, Mr. Aquinas.

But if you ever come up with something, let me know. We will seriously discuss it, and I mean that honestly. Until then, that's enough.

In other words, you have no place to refer to. Just as I thought, Mr. Aquinas.

Speaking of lies and absurdities, suck on this:


jlisenbe is the clown who believes babies are roasted in hell for all eternity because they didn't believe in Jesus when they died as infants. He claims that all humanity, including babies and innocents, go to hell unless they believe in Jesus. No exceptions. Keep that in mind when reading anything he says on these pages.

You refer to your own post as an example of me lying? Oh well. I guess that's how it works in your world, Mr. Aquinas?

You refer to your own post as an example of me lying? Oh well. I guess that's how it works in your world, Mr. Aquinas?


Here it is again ----


This is the clown who believes babies are roasted in hell for all eternity because they didn't believe in Jesus when they died as infants. He claims that all humanity, including babies and innocents, goes to hell unless they believe in Jesus. No exceptions. Keep that in mind when reading anything he says on these pages.

Well, you're in the basement again. I'll just let you enjoy your lying. Have fun!!

Well, you're in the basement again. I'll just let you enjoy your lying. Have fun!!

I thought you left! Back so soon?




Jlisenbe is the clown who believes babies are roasted in hell for all eternity because they didn't believe in Jesus when they died as infants. He claims that all humanity, including babies and innocents, goes to hell unless they believe in Jesus. No exceptions. Keep that in mind when reading anything he says on these pages.

You don't like a taste of your own medicine, do you?

It's a lie, pure and simple.

It's a lie, pure and simple.

Not according to your own posts, and defending those posts with several Bible verses. Never commit to paper what you don't want to come back and bite you in the arse.

But you haven't quoted my own posts. You have quoted your post. Until you quote mine, then you are appealing to your own words to prove someone else lied, and that is absurd.

But you haven't quoted my own posts. You have quoted your post. Until you quote mine, then you are appealing to your own words to prove someone else lied, and that is absurd.

You can find them yourself - they're in your profile.

Unless, of course, you are now DENYING you posted that belief about hell. ARE you denying it?

I deny categorically that I posted what you claim I believe. But if I did, use the wonderful search feature on this site and find it. I've used it a number of times. It works well.

I deny categorically that I posted what you claim I believe.

Here's your chance to clear the air.

I claim you said that unbelievers are condemned to hell for eternal punishment. Since babies who never heard of Jesus, and the Chinese peasant woman who also never heard of Jesus are each part of unbelievers, they are therefore condemned to hell according to your belief.

You NEVER outright denied this. You said 1) my argument was with Jesus and I would have to discuss it with him. Hardly a denial. 2) Then, when I pressed, you provided several Bible verses that you offered as support for your belief.

The point is you NEVER explicitly denied the statement.

In your own words, (or a simple yes or no) are unbelievers condemned to hell for eternal punishment? Not what you say Jesus said, not what the Bible says, but what YOU say.

Fair enough?

1. I denied I ever made a statement about babies and children going to hell. That was a lie. When you admit to that, then we can proceed forth.

2. I do absolutely stand by what Jesus said. For instance, He said in John 8, "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”." And there are many, many other references. The issue here is that you don't accept the words of Christ.

We should really move this to your Genesis thread. Others are likely wanting to discuss the subject of this one

1. I denied I ever made a statement about babies and children going to hell. That was a lie. When you admit to that, then we can proceed forth.

There it is!!!!!! The evasion!!!!! Now he's making deals. Notice the qualification of his statement - "babies and children" - when the issue is about unbelievers, babies and children being a part. I love it when he proves my point.


2. I do absolutely stand by what Jesus said. For instance, He said in John 8, "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”." And there are many, many other references.

Here's more of the same !!!! Don't you love it? This is his spewing Bible verses that he offers as proof. Note that this particular verse never mentions a thing about hell and/or eternal punishment. To "die in your sins" seems pretty final.


The issue here is that you don't accept the words of Christ.

No, the issue here is that you can't/won't answer the simple question put to you.

But you have provided another tactic of yours. Make up something about me (or others) that springs from the top of your head without any evidence or proof - even from these pages. It's your way of striking out. Common among fundamentalists.


We should really move this to your Genesis thread. Others are likely wanting to discuss the subject of this one

You are reaping what you have sown.

I moved this to the Genesis thread.

I moved this to the Genesis thread.

I replied to your latest over there.

good ..take theological ' dancing on the head of a pin 'discussions elsewhere .

Lot more important than that, but I get your point.

todays listers are Rappers Bryson Grey and Patriot J have had a song with the opening line “They might ban me for this song” . They were right .

Their song criticizing BLM was banned by Spotify .

They might ban me for this song, but this is how I’m rocking
Can’t be trans ’cause it ain’t real, they need a mental asylum

Bryson Gray - Safe Space (Lyrics) ft Patriot J - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQDrYl4tYY0)

Patriot J said that if tech platforms really wanted to ban “hatred,” most mainstream rap songs would have to be banned as well.“The ban just shines a spotlight on how far Big Tech is willing to take their censorship of dissenting views,” “Spotify and SoundCloud don’t actually care about allegedly ‘hateful’ or ‘violent’ songs being on their platform, because if that were the case, they’d have taken down almost all of the popular rap songs on their platforms.”

“We were silenced for being brave enough to go against the radical left agenda, and now we’re paying the price. Just another day in Joe Biden’s America!”

It's still hate speech.

Spotify can play what it wants .You mean offensive speech. Speech is words . There is no constitutional protected from getting offended .Such justifications as banning "hate speech " leads to book burning and other acts of violence. .

It also leads to discrimination, segregation, suppression, oppression and chaos from misinformation, lies and confusion.

AOC strikes again. "The criminalization and banning of cannabis is an instrument of racist and colonial policy," This after a young black female athlete was suspended for a month after testing positive for pot use. Just amazing how virtually everything now is a racist event for her. What's next, the, "criminalization and banning of driving a car 90 mph in a school zone is an instrument of racist and colonial policy???"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-says-olympic-ban-on-marijuana-is-instrument-of-racism-following-richardsons-suspension

AOC strikes again. "The criminalization and banning of cannabis is an instrument of racist and colonial policy," This after a young black female athlete was suspended for a month after testing positive for pot use. Just amazing how virtually everything now is a racist event for her. What's next, the, "criminalization and banning of driving a car 90 mph in a school zone is an instrument of racist and colonial policy???"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-says-olympic-ban-on-marijuana-is-instrument-of-racism-following-richardsons-suspension

AOC is correct in that the so called war on drugs has systematically, INTENTIONALLY adversely affected minorities more than the real sellers and makers which doesn't excuse the usage by Richardson as a star athlete. Denying racism and inequality doesn't exists to help bash your favorite liberal though is not lost, and shameful.