Since the OP turned into a gun control question ,I figured I'd start a new black list site .

Today's black listers are anyone who worked for Trump and now looking for work .
Wherever they apply ,the employer ,publisher if a Trumpster is looking to write a book) are threatened with boycott if the Trumpster is hired

One K Street lobbyist unbelievably said “They took a wrecking ball to the 'swamp.' Why would the 'swamp' want them back?”
Trump aides seeking jobs 'blocked everywhere' - News Break (https://www.newsbreak.com/contents/2185807861394/trump-aides-seeking-jobs-blocked-everywhere)

I consider it one of Trump's failures that he did NOT take a wrecking ball to the swamp. Not enough anyway......especially to Justice Dept and specifically to the FBI . The FBI has been rogue since the later days of Hoover . Trump left without draining the swamp . The critters remained in power and now has their biggest advocate in Quid running the town.

Cry me a river for ex dufus employees who can't find work. That's what comes from having an incompetent, corrupt boss with a nasty mouth and attitude who lied about everything. 73 million dufus followers and they can't find a job?


Maybe they should run for office.

yeah of course you say that now . As I have shown a number of times ;the woke AmComs (defined as American woke culture that is the mirror image of the Mao cultural revolution ) have a circular firing squad when they run out of conservative targets .

yeah of course you say that now . As I have shown a number of times ;the woke AmComs (defined as American woke culture that is the mirror image of the Mao cultural revolution ) have a circular firing squad when they run out of conservative targets .

Very colorful language. But is it true?

substitute the language like racial division ,white supremacy , for class struggle and yeah . Any thought that is not woke approved has to be purged . The accused stand public humiliation and indoctrination .......just like what happened in the Mao cultural revolution .Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share | Cato Institute (https://www.cato.org/survey-reports/poll-62-americans-say-they-have-political-views-theyre-afraid-share)

Corporations buckle or face the wrath of the woke . Just this week one of the few major food chains left in Rochester that keep it from becoming completely a food desert ;Wegmans ; was surrounded by BLM protesters . Over 100 shoppers were trapped inside for a considerable time .

Major corporations are having HR teach employees critical race theory . Dissenting employees do not last long. They launch ad campaigns funded by the consumer to tell Americans that don't agree with the woke agenda that they are racists and the problem.
Parents of children who oppose the indoctrination in the school systems are subject to abuse .
‘Expose These People Publicly’: Parents Against Critical Race Curriculum Listed By Teachers Attempting To ‘Infiltrate’ Them | The Daily Caller (https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/17/virginia-parents-targeted-for-opposing-critical-race-theory/)

The press is single minded in the wok theology too .
The Sovietization of the American Press - TK News by Matt Taibbi (substack.com) (https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-sovietization-of-the-american?fbclid=IwAR1WJfDvq0PsF1hhMKXx8taoSLdUPwQm nSGMtuTw-60Lx7qoczehC5-4rW4)

Read up on the Cultural Revolution . Mao recruited the students to go out to the countryside to identify the enemies of the revolution . The same is happening today . That is why I do these black list postings.

I went into this issue here
The Black List - Page 12 (askmehelpdesk.com) (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=847972&page=12&p=3865372#post3865372)

I think I will compile my own black list

Communists
CCP
Demonrats
Russian Oligarchs
Warren Buffett
George Soros

etc

nice list . I am on the fence about the Oracle of Omaha . But I can see why he would be included .I can't think of a better example of a corporate rent seeker.

Have we discussed Alexi McCammond? This young woman was set to take over at Teen Vogue, but had to back out of the job because of tweets she posted when she was 17. They included this.


In 2011, when she was 17, McCammond tweeted "Outdone by [an] Asian #whatsnew," and "now googling how to not wake up with swollen, asian eyes..."
A third tweet said: "Give me a 2/10 on my chem [chemistry] problem, cross out all of my work and don't explain what I did wrong... thanks a lot stupid Asian T.A [teaching assistant] you're great," read another.

So we can't look at what a teen-ager does as an opportunity for growth? She just better be glad she's not a Trump conservative!

This is what they actually should have been concerned about. Earlier she had said, “(my) past tweets have overshadowed the work I’ve done to highlight the people and issues that I care about.” She is speaking of her time working for Axios covering the candidacy of Joe Biden. What happened to a reporter caring about the truth rather than "people and issues"?

So we can't look at what a teen-ager does as an opportunity for growth? She just better be glad she's not a Trump conservative! Did not help Dr Seuss . During WWII he worked for the government making anti-Japanese propaganda cartoons . They were clearly racist . But after the war he visited Hiroshima and became ashamed for the cartoons he drew that had racial stereotypes . He wrote 'Horton Hears a Who' to rectify . But Horton was one of his books that got cancelled.

He wrote 'Horton Hears a Who' to rectify . But Horton was one of his books that got cancelled.That's the irony of it all. Dr. Seuss would have been a good candidate for the "I am NOT a Racist" award, but if you go back far enough into practically anyone's life, you'll find some blemishes. Perhaps we need a statute of limitations for dumb comments.

Today's blacklister is GW Bush ...... oh wait . He is redeemed

You see ;when he was President the Dems ,the press ,the woke crowd called him a racist, a liar, an idiot, a war criminal, illiterate ,a coke addict , and a crook. Oh yeah , and Excon called him Dufus .

But this weekend he was on the Sunday shows and talked ill of Trump .He suddenly became a saint and a statesman verified by the same people who smeared him in the past .

GWB was a capital D Dufus, Trump was just a lying cheating lowercase d dufus. I liked them both better after they left office, but still hope for the primetime perp walk for the dufus.

Seems the pelicans have had a lot of dufus in their ranks, now the demonrats have a dufus in chief

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Today Parler is back on the list .
After the Jan 6 the Dems attempted to blame Parler for the attack on the Capitol . Carolyn Maloney Rep from NY claimed that the site was used as a platform to coordinate the attack . She demanded that Parler provide a detailed list of investors and creditors to the site . She also demanded that the FBI investigate Parler

There are a couple problems with her narrative .
1. the evidence shows that the planning happened on the more established social media sites like Twitter ,Facebook and Reddit ,as well as Parler . It was overt .
2. The bigger problem in her narrative is that Parler was cooperating with the FBI ,and reported the activity to the FBI PRIOR TO January 6 .
Parler says it sent the F.B.I. posts about threats to the Capitol ahead of Jan. 6. - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/25/us/parler-fbi-capitol-attack.html)

The app sent a letter to the House Oversight Committee on Thursday saying it developed "formal lines of communication" with the FBI to refer violent threats made on its platform. It wasn't once or twice ;Parler sent them information about the coming attack 50 times ! And those included specific threats .

"These referrals represent only a fraction of the dozens of posts with violent rhetoric that Parler collected and forwarded to the FBI for investigation in the days leading up to January 6th," the company said. "Even after the violent attacks stopped, Parler continued to dutifully and proactively report posts to the FBI where users threatened additional violence."
Social network Parler says it warned FBI before Capitol riot - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parler-fbi-capitol-riot/)

What Maloney and the Dems need to do is to demand an answer from the FBI as to why didn't the FBI act given the information they received from Parler .


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update
Owen Stevens ;the SUNY student who got suspended for saying on Instagram “A man is a man, a woman is a woman. A man is not a woman and a woman is not a man.” got reinstated .
Student suspended for saying ‘a man is a man, a woman is a woman’ reinstated by university | The College Fix (https://www.thecollegefix.com/student-suspended-for-saying-a-man-is-a-man-a-woman-is-a-woman-reinstated-by-university/)

He stated the obvious although it is hard to tell sometimes

Seems the pelicans have had a lot of dufus in their ranks, now the demonrats have a dufus in chief

Coming from Rooland where you nearly burned the place down that's a compliment.

Trump managed to make "dufus" seem like a compliment. Biden is returning it to its former meaning.

Latest blacklist outrage is Major League Baseball pulling the all star game out of Atlanta because of a new voter ID law passed by the Georgia legislature.

all these states cannot host it either right ? red and orange have photo id laws . The blue shades have non photo id requirements
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Map_of_US_Voter_ID_Laws_by_State.svg/400px-Map_of_US_Voter_ID_Laws_by_State.svg.png

Can't help but notice that they seem perfectly happy to have ML teams in those states including, of course, Atlanta.

The MLB pushback on voter suppression laws are but ONE corporation, as many more have joined the fray.

A Full List of Companies That Have Advocated Against Georgia's New Voting Law (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-companies-that-have-advocated-against-georgias-new-voting-law-1580435)

It's ON!

Corporate wokefare .

The woke corporatists crowd of course will of course say nothing about their business dealings with China ;a nation that uses slave labor . Apple ,Coca Cola ,the NBA and their hypocrite players stay mum . As an example ,last year a Congressional Executive Commission on human rights abuses listed Coca Cola as a major American company with ties to forced labor camps in the Chinese province of Xinjiang .The report went on to specifically name Coke's s Tunhe sugar facility in Xinjiang as having direct ties to forced labor. Now Coke has lobbied Congress against legislation targeting companies who engaged with China’s forced labor policies.
But the CEO James Quincy has been very vocal against Georgia's common sense election reforms .
Coca-Cola CEO wants Congress to act after Georgia's voting law - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/business/coca-cola-ceo-georgia-voting-law/index.html)

There are many more examples of this woke hypocrisy .

It just keeps getting weirder.

"A Portland (https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/portland) high school has postponed changing its mascot to an evergreen tree after a committee member raised concerns about its possible connotations to lynching."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-school-postpones-vote-on-changing-mascot-to-evergreens-over-concerns-of-ties-to-lynching

I think it is weird having a tree as a mascot . Then I remembered Stanford has a tree , Must be a west coast thingy.

MLB I would call for a boycott from watching the game . But for years nobody has watched the game. The Home Run Derby the day before the game has better ratings

There aren’t many team names left. The Peaceful Amoeba??

My fantasy team is the gnats https://content.sportslogos.net/news/2015/07/2gljacfz1hx0y4hs80ielkogg.gif

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What happens when the Gnats play the Mosquitoes?

The woke corporatists crowd of course will of course say nothing about their business dealings with China ;a nation that uses slave labor . Apple ,Coca Cola ,the NBA and their hypocrite players stay mum . As an example ,last year a Congressional Executive Commission on human rights abuses listed Coca Cola as a major American company with ties to forced labor camps in the Chinese province of Xinjiang .The report went on to specifically name Coke's s Tunhe sugar facility in Xinjiang as having direct ties to forced labor. Now Coke has lobbied Congress against legislation targeting companies who engaged with China’s forced labor policies.
But the CEO James Quincy has been very vocal against Georgia's common sense election reforms .
Coca-Cola CEO wants Congress to act after Georgia's voting law - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/business/coca-cola-ceo-georgia-voting-law/index.html)

There are many more examples of this woke hypocrisy .

Big Biz kowtowing to China is nothing new, they've done it before with dictators and corrupt regimes around the world throughout history. It's the capitalist way be it cheap labor or outright slavery. Miscro Soft, Walmart, Nike, you name it. A buck is a buck.

They were in lockstep with voting suppression until the court of public opinion called them on it so game on.

you think the woke thugs are the court of public opinion ? thanks for the laugh of the day . This is a desperate ploy by MLB to save it's bacon . It is desperately trying to get a young audience. Well maybe geezers like me will remanence about days gone by when the All Star game was interesting . But we will not transfer that enthusiasm for the game to our grandkids , You notice how the NBA was just a little less enthusiastic about all that social justice stuff this season ? That was because they lost audience due to wokeness . Same has happened to NFL . We shall see where the 'court of public opinion 'really sees woke and cancel culture .

why don't you just wake up and cancel the culture of gladiatorial games

why don't you just wake up and cancel the culture of gladiatorial gamesI'm all for it. It would be great if the NFL, NBA, and MLB went out of business. I watch none of it and couldn't care less.


You notice how the NBA was just a little less enthusiastic about all that social justice stuff this season ? That was because they lost audience due to wokeness . Same has happened to NFL . We shall see where the 'court of public opinion 'really sees woke and cancel culture .Absolutely correct. It's going to be interesting.

If MLB really believed Georgians are now living under “Jim Crow " why are they only canceling 1 of the 82 MLB games scheduled to be played in Georgia ?

As you said, this has nothing to do with logic. It's all about some perceived public posture. Only an idiot would think that Georgia's law was anything even remotely connected with Jim Crow laws.

I'm all for it. It would be great if the NFL, NBA, and MLB went out of business. I watch none of it and couldn't care less.

For a guy who posts about his concern for his fellow man, it's sure a surprise to learn that you "couldn't care less" about the millions affected by the loss of the NFL, NBA, and MLB. Your "shoot yourself in the foot quality" rises again.

For a guy who posts about his concern for his fellow man, it's sure a surprise to learn that you "couldn't care less" about the millions affected by the loss of the NFL, NBA, and MLB. Your "shoot yourself in the foot quality" rises again.
these things are non events, bread and circuses for the masses, what would you do without them, find something else to do

these things are non events, bread and circuses for the masses, what would you do without them, find something else to do

The comment was about the economic effect of losing all those entertainment venues. You're pretty casual about throwing millions of people into economic disaster.

You're pretty casual about throwing millions of people into economic disaster.Drama alert.

Not a fan of rap music, but this guy is popular and is hitting the nail on the head, so there is still hope.

I think it's crazy I'm the one who they labeled as controversial
And Cardi B is the role model for 12-year-old girls
There's rappers pushin' Xanax at the top of the Billboard
But if I mention race in a song, I'm scared I'll get killed for it
It's backwards, it's gettin' exponentially dumb
It's more difficult to get a job than purchase a gun
Eminem used to gay bash and murder his mum
And now he doesn't want fans if they voted for Trump
We're ashamed to be American, you should probably love it
'Cause you have the right to say it and not gеt strung up in public
As children, we werе taught how to walk and talk
But the system wants adults to sit down and shut up
Cancel culture runs the world now, the planet went crazy
Label everything we say as homophobic or racist
If you're white, then you're privileged, guilty by association
All our childhood heroes got Me-Too'd or they're rapists

[Pre-Chorus 1]
They never freed the slaves, they realized that they don't need the chains
They gave us tiny screens, we think we free 'cause we can't see the cage
They knew that race war would be the game they'd need to play
For people to pick teams, they use the media to feed the flame

[Chorus]
They so fake woke, facts don't care 'bout feelin's
They know they won't tell me what to believe in
They so fake woke, same old safe zones
They so fake woke, facts don't care 'bout your feelin's

maybe the sports leagues should get out of the politics /social justice /cancel culture ;and stick to what they were good at ......entertainment . The classic example of successful sports marketing was Michael Jordan sneakers . Back when the NBA was struggling ,they could not afford to alienate any potential fans who would spend $$ on the game . So when the question arose ;Michael Jordon said 'Republicans buy sneakers too " .
Of course now he is a billionaire and can modify .And the NBA has since become a highly successful league . So they think their future is to appease the woke crowd. It will back lash .
So when there is talk about someone being casual about throwing millions of people into economic disaster ;the woke should look at the consequences of their own actions . At least half the country thinks this cancelling of the great American culture is a very dangerous path .

For me it's not so much about the economic targeting as it is the phoniness in their attempts to justify it. Everything is not a racial issue. Voter ID laws are not racist and are certainly not "Jim Crow on steroids". Not believing everything M. Markle says is not racist. Using a tree for a team symbol is not racist. Calling the Atlanta ballclub the "Braves" is not racist. A Christian baker not wanting to participate in a "gay wedding" is not homophobic. At some point a little common sense would become useful. Even the famous porn-author, Stacey Abrams, is having to back off from her earlier comments.

Drama alert.

Schmuck alert.

A poll by Harvard and Harris poll reveals that 64% of Americans view the cancel culture as a threat to freedom .

Is ‘cancel culture’ a threat to freedom? Poll says 64% of Americans think so | CBS 42 (https://www.cbs42.com/news/u-s-world/is-cancel-culture-a-threat-to-freedom-poll-says-64-of-americans-think-so/)

"It is a chilling finding that most people in the country now are afraid they would be fired if they expressed their real views on social media,” said Mark Penn, the director of the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey.
“The public generally gives negative ratings to social media companies and sees the movement as more about censorship rather than trying to correct wrongs. It is growing as a national issue,” he said.

POLL: Majority of Americans See Cancel Culture as Threat to Freedom (yahoo.com) (https://news.yahoo.com/poll-majority-americans-see-cancel-213920486.html)

The pattern has been the same throughout history. It begins when the revolutionaries exert their power to censor, coerce, and condemn dissenters I have given the examples of the French Revolution ,Stalin and Mao before .So I won't rehash those details . Suffice it to say that eventually ,the cancellers eventually become the cancelled as they feast on each other trying to perpetrate their power . Don't believe me ? ....Ask Robespierre and Danton .The same revolution that took down the Romanov's put an ice pick ax into Trotsky's skull.


I also wrote of Coca Cola's hypocrisy in condemning Georgia's sensible election reforms which the woke culture claims is Jim Crow like , while ignoring the slave labor that makes their product in China . The company has an ongoing training program designed to make their employees 'less white ' . This information is confirmed by the company.

Coca-Cola Confirms Training Employees to 'Be Less White' - Becker News (https://beckernews.com/coca-cola-confirms-training-employees-to-be-less-white-36954/)

They also demand that every law firm they hire be less white .
Coke said it will require quarterly reporting about the makeup of legal teams that do work for it and self identify as American Indian, Alaska Native, Asian, Black, women, Hispanic/Latinx, LGBTQ, Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander or persons with disabilities. For those working on new matters for Coke, “at least 30 percent of each of billed associate and partner time will be from diverse attorneys, and of such amounts at least half will be from Black attorneys.”

Coke demands diversity among law firms it uses | The Seattle Times (https://www.seattletimes.com/business/coke-demands-diversity-among-law-firms-it-uses/)

The reason the Civil Rights Act was passed was to end exactly this kind of favoritism.

They also demand that every law firm they hire be less white .In saner times, that would be referred to as racial discrimination. Arbitrary targets such as that always have the same effect. The law firm or business becomes less efficient.

Gotta give it to MLB for making a bold statement by moving the All Star game from Atlanta with it's 34% Black population to Denver with it's almost 10% Black population ......and to Colorado ;a state with more restrictive voting laws than Georgia's new laws

Unsurprisingly Biden has made no false statements about Colorado’s voting laws.

Surprising to anyone?

"Over 200 US companies that called out changes to voter laws require ID for employment."

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/over-200-us-companies-that-call-out-changes-to-voter-id-laws-others-require-identification-for-employment

What pieces of voter ID would suffice?

I thought we agreed earlier that pic ID's would be good.

I thought we agreed earlier that pic ID's would be good.
That's all???

Picture IDs issued by the DMV? NRA? A college currently being attended? A current employer?

Yes. No. Yes. Possibly.

Yes. No. Yes. Possibly.
You're certainly no help!

I just turned 68. You have to cut me some slack. 8D

you are a mere callow youth and very obviously so

Always good to be called a youth at my age.

you think the woke thugs are the court of public opinion ? thanks for the laugh of the day . This is a desperate ploy by MLB to save it's bacon . It is desperately trying to get a young audience. Well maybe geezers like me will remanence about days gone by when the All Star game was interesting . But we will not transfer that enthusiasm for the game to our grandkids , You notice how the NBA was just a little less enthusiastic about all that social justice stuff this season ? That was because they lost audience due to wokeness . Same has happened to NFL . We shall see where the 'court of public opinion 'really sees woke and cancel culture .

Covid has devastated nearly everything and everybody on the planet. That's bound to change soon, so let's separate that from the politics and repubs suppression for the coming election. Those WOKE and CANCEL talking points are part of that. That's all the righties have left (PUN) and the BIG LIE about voting fraud.

We've always known that participation via TURN OUT was the key to overcoming the social repression repubs continue to practice, and Big Biz can count as the pendulum swings.


Gotta give it to MLB for making a bold statement by moving the All Star game from Atlanta with it's 34% Black population to Denver with it's almost 10% Black population ......and to Colorado ;a state with more restrictive voting laws than Georgia's new laws

You did look that up didn't you?

Well Tal I can say from the point of view of my nation, covid has been a damn inconvenience, but devastating it has not been. Yes, we have had a high death rate among elderly nursing home patients, but generally, as I have said before, the death rate is really not much higher than it was before covid, only the circumstances changed which gives some creditability to the theory that when your numbers up, that's it. The grim reaper will prevail . 3% of those who contracted covid died, but not many people contracted it because of sensible behaviour, Business was inconvenienced and some marginal businesses failed. we are powering on despite the devastation

You did look that up didn't you? of course

tal did you actually look at the Georgia changes ? Because if you did you would find that the changes in fact open up voting by easing restrictions .
Your side is so obsessed with preventing identity confirmation and I just don't understand why . The only one that makes sense is that you don't think you can win unless there is fraud . The arguments that IDs are difficult to get and that a significant number of likely voters don't have IDs are nonsense. The claim that minority voters are somehow incapable of the simple act of obtaining an ID is a racist claim. Minority voters should be outraged that the Dems are insulting them .

Amazing how popular these "white supremacist, racist" initiatives can be.

“Majorities of whites (74%), blacks (69%) and other minorities (82%) say voters should be required to show photo identification before being allowed to vote,” Rassmussen Reports (https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/march_2021/75_support_voter_id_laws) found among 1,000 likely voters polled throughout the U.S.
Even along party lines, 60 percent of Democrats, 89 percent of Republicans, and 77 percent of unaffiliated voters responded in the affirmative."

https://www.westernjournal.com/democrats-claim-voter-racist-new-poll-shows-nearly-70-blacks-support/

All time dumb quote of the ages from Biden.
"Biden predicted the efforts will be stopped "because it's the most pernicious thing.""This makes Jim Crow look like Jim Eagle,” he said. “I mean, this is gigantic, what they’re trying to do. And it cannot be sustained." It's one of our major problems now. Every disagreement has to be treated like a life-threatening emergency and attacked with the most extreme rhetoric at their disposal.

today's black lister is the emperor . He wasn't woke enough

Waukegan Latinx activists protest renaming Thomas Jefferson Middle School after Barack and Michelle Obama - ABC7 Chicago (https://abc7chicago.com/waukegan-public-schools-barack-and-michelle-obama-thomas-jefferson-middle-school-daniel-webster/10459946/)

ahh the circular firing squad !!


"If you're removing the name of Thomas Jefferson - one oppressor - the name of Obama is another oppressor and our families do not want to see that name,"

"If you're removing the name of Thomas Jefferson - one oppressor - the name of Obama is another oppressor and our families do not want to see that name,"Oh my goodness. I'm beginning to agree with the radicals!!

The inability to judge between what is a big deal and what is a little deal is part of our culture now. A car salesman makes an insensitive remark and the world falls apart. Note his lengthy, self-flagellating apology that has become the norm these days. And Baylor U gets to demonstrate itself as the very soul of racial sensitivity by refusing the gift of a car they didn't really need in the first place.


"Coach Scott can enjoy it and he’ll use it to pull some people out of the hood," Teague said.

On Wednesday, Baylor released a statement on the remark.

"We have spoken with Ted Teague regarding his comments made last night," Drew and Baylor athletic director Mack Rhoades said in a joint statement. "His remarks do not align with our institutional values or the culture of our athletic programs. We can confirm we are not accepting the Jeep driven in the parade on Tuesday. As a department, we are committed to recruiting a diverse group of student-athletes, coaches, and staff, all of whom are valued members of our community."

Teague apologized for the remark, saying he misspoke when he used the word "hood." "As the word came out of my mouth, I instantly knew it was the absolute wrong word," he said. "I know that I disrespected a countless number of people within our amazing Waco community, and beyond. I am deeply disappointed and saddened by my actions and offer each of you my most sincere apologies."

https://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/baylor-vehicle-dealership-hood-remark

they should use it for a alumnae auction with the proceeds going to a student scholarship


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A Black economic professor is today's candidate .

Last fall, Grace Church High School’s (a private school in Manhattan) leaders would not allow teacher Paul Rossi to introduced ideas expressed by Brown University social sciences Professor Glenn Loury to juniors and seniors enrolled in his “Art of Persuasion” class.

Glenn Loury at the age of 33 became the first African American tenured professor of economics in the history of Harvard University. BLM was the hot topic at the time and Rossi decided to introduce Loury's writings into his class .

Rossi writes :

"The head of school responded to me that “people like Loury’s lived experience—and therefore his derived social philosophy” made him an exception to the rule that black thinkers acknowledge structural racism as the paramount impediment in society. He added that “the moment we are in institutionally and culturally, does not lend itself to dispassionate discussion and debate,” and discussing Loury’s ideas would “only confuse and/or enflame students, both those in the class and others that hear about it outside of the class.” He preferred I assign “mainstream white conservatives,” effectively denying black students the opportunity to hear from a black professor who holds views that diverge from the orthodoxy pushed on them."

"I find it self-evidently racist to filter the dissemination of an idea based on the race of the person who espouses it. I find the claim that exposing 11th and 12th graders to diverse views on an important societal issue will only “confuse” them to be characteristic of a fundamentalist religion, not an educational philosophy. "

I Refuse to Stand By While My Students Are Indoctrinated - Common Sense with Bari Weiss (substack.com) (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/i-refuse-to-stand-by-while-my-students)

But the problem is that Loury challenges the woke narrative . He challenges the premise that "systemic racism" is the primary challenge facing the Black community today .

"Loury said he rejects the idea that racial inequalities can be entirely credited to the pervasiveness of white supremacy. And he concluded with an attack on policies like affirmative action, which he described as patronizing and saturated with the bigotry of low expectations."

Rossi wrote of the incident that the head of the school told him that ‘the moment we are in, institutionally and culturally, does not lend itself to dispassionate discussion and debate,’ and discussing Loury’s ideas would ‘only confuse and/or enflame students, both those in the class and others that hear about it outside of the class.’”

In other words ;what school head George Davison's REAL concern was the perception that others would get with having Professor Loury's views taught .

But what Rossi describes is worse than that . He tells of racially segregated zoom classes to discuss racial issues (focused at condemning whites ) .The students are taught a dystopian intersectional condemnation of American culture ." A few days later, the head of school [Davison] ordered all high school advisors to read a public reprimand of my conduct out loud to every student in the school. It was a surreal experience, walking the halls alone and hearing the words emitting from each classroom: “Events from last week compel us to underscore some aspects of our mission and share some thoughts about our community,” the statement began. “At independent schools, with their history of predominantly white populations, racism colludes with other forms of bias (sexism, classism, ableism and so much more) to undermine our stated ideals, and we must work hard to undo this history.”"

. It is a prime example of the premise that woke culture is no more than an American left version of Mao's Cultural Revolution . Public shaming and demonization of incorrect thinking are the precursors before “re-education camps” where someone like Paul Rossi or, Glenn Loury would be paraded before jeering crowds of “the woke” to be humiliated and condemned.

A few days later, the head of school [Davison] ordered all high school advisors to read a public reprimand of my conduct out loud to every student in the school.And there lies the real problem. Like docile little sheep, the faculty no doubt complied and read a statement that surely many of them did not agree with. A lack of courage is our real problem.

I guess I am fortunate to never needed to make that choice. No one at work particularly cared about my outspoken opinions . It never affected my work . And here I am a mostly an anonymous town crier .



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just in . Twitter permanently cancelled James O'Keefe and Project Veritas . He burned CNN recently by exposing their clear and now confirmed bias against President Trump in last year's election. A CNN director ;secretly recorded ,proudly revealed that the fake news network engaged in propagandist reporting to further the aims of the Democratic party. CNN's Technical Director Charlie Chester boasted that the network's biased coverage played a large roll in removing President Trump from office.

And there are people here who really believe that the national media is as fair and honest as can be. Incredible.

You can fool some of the people all of the time, I guess that's how presidents get elected

You can fool some of the people all of the time, I guess that's how presidents get electedSadly true.

You poor wingers! Everybody with sense was against the dufus and for good reason, but let's not conflate the small skirmishes across the country with the subjective media coverage since the right doesn't care about facts, just talking points they agree with. The problem you fringers have is handling the other sides push back to you're narratives.

Tal, think about what you just said, both sides are equally guilty

No we ain't and I doubt you can tell the difference. What we all look alike?

No we ain't and I doubt you can tell the difference. What we all look alike?

Are you saying you can tell a demonrat by the way they look, darker skinned? sun tanned? better dressed?

Are you saying you can tell a demonrat by the way they look,Sort of a dumb, glassy-eyed appearance??

Just kidding.

No, I thought that applied to your red necked back woods friends

No, I thought that applied to your red necked back woods friendsYou don't know any of my friends. It seems you have a habit of commenting on topics about which you know nothing. Why is that?

hey, it's what I do. Is it annoying? good, it achieves its objective

hey, it's what I do. Is it annoying? good, it achieves its objective

Missîon Accomplished

Is it annoying?So your life's ambition is to be annoying? Well...OK then.

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thank you

Note who's carrying loot -- white opportunists....
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So???

So???
White opportunists are using the "cover" of Black protest crowds to break into stores and steal merchandise. That makes everyone think incorrectly that Black protests are an evil activity.

You have no evidence for that.

There is PLENTY of evidence of non-whites looting to disprove your theory.

My photo had nothing to do with race to begin with. Don’t really know why the subject was even brought up.

You have no evidence for that.
You posted a picture showing exactly that, whites looting while Blacks were protesting police behavior!

You drew your sweeping conclusion from a picture with nine people in it?? Wow. You must have ESP.

You drew your sweeping conclusion from a picture with nine people in it?? Wow. You must have ESP.
I was so surprised you posted such an incriminating photo! Lemme see, 3/9 equals one third, 33 1/3%. And notice those three white opportunists can hardly carry all the merchandise they have stolen. In other protest photos in the past, I noticed the white thieves wore hoodies with the hood covering most of the face, but their white hands were very visible.

I see. So you are making the startling accusation that there are THREE white people in America who loot stores? Wwooowwww. That’s so deep. Sadly, you are still totally lacking in any real evidence to support your conclusion.

I see. So you are making the startling accusation that there are THREE white people in America who loot stores? Wwooowwww. That’s so deep.
No, I am saying that that photo shows at least a third of the people at that protest were thieving white opportunists.

A third of nine equals three. You have no evidence.

A third of nine equals three. You have no evidence.
You posted a photo as proof.

If that photo is all you have, and it is, then you have nothing other than an unsupported, clearly wrong theory.

If you really think that the internet is not full of pics of non-whites looting, then you need to get out more.

Again WG, you make the mistake of trying to have a logical discussion with an illogical troll that even though he presents the evidence himself he will never admit the evidence of YOUR logic.

It's boils down to a simple question I've asked before...why is there looting DURING a peaceful protest about police abuse and misconduct in the first place?

We can debate who gets out much later!

Again WG, you make the mistake of trying to have a logical discussion with an illogical troll that even though he presents the evidence himself he will never admit the evidence of YOUR logic.

It's boils down to a simple question I've asked before...why is there looting DURING a peaceful protest about police abuse and misconduct in the first place?

We can debate who gets out much later!
Tal. you make sense (as always). Others on this site tell me the same thing. And yeah, my forehead hurts from bashing it against the wall.

White opportunists are using the "cover" of Black protest crowds to break into stores and steal merchandise.This is what you are lacking in evidence for. How can a peaceful protest crowd provide "cover" for looting? Wouldn't the looters stand out like a sore thumb? Wouldn't peaceful protestors point out the law breakers to the cops?


That makes everyone think incorrectly that Black protests are an evil activity.I suppose you believe that ("everyone"), but I doubt if very many people consider peaceful protests to be "an evil activity". I know I don't.

Much more likely is that most people, absent one or two on this site, rightly consider rioting, looting, and wanton destruction to be evil activities, no matter what race the perpetrators happen to be.

And the utterly non-racial original point remains about going to a polling place to vote.

This is what you are lacking in evidence for. How can a peaceful protest crowd provide "cover" for looting? Wouldn't the looters stand out like a sore thumb? Wouldn't peaceful protestors point out the law breakers to the cops?
They DO stand out like a sore thumb when they are photographed or videoed. Google for protest photos and videos. And the peaceful protesters DO point out the WHITE thieves to the WHITE cops. Guess what happens then....


I suppose you believe that ("everyone"), but I doubt if very many people consider peaceful protests to be "an evil activity". I know I don't.

Much more likely is that most people, absent one or two on this site, rightly consider rioting, looting, and wanton destruction to be evil activities, no matter what race the perpetrators happen to be.
Of course, rioting, looting, and wanton destruction by ANYONE is evil.

And the utterly non-racial original point remains about going to a polling place to vote.
Then election officials need to make it easy to get to a polling place, not shut them all down except for one in Timbuktu.

This is what you are lacking in evidence for. How can a peaceful protest crowd provide "cover" for looting? Wouldn't the looters stand out like a sore thumb? Wouldn't peaceful protestors point out the law breakers to the cops?

Looters do stand out like a sore thumb and because you don't hear about it doesn't mean that looters aren't turned in anonymously, and sometimes the cops catch them in the act.


I suppose you believe that ("everyone"), but I doubt if very many people consider peaceful protests to be "an evil activity". I know I don't.

No one here except when they conflate peaceful protesting for a good cause with criminal and bad behavior. Sometime it certainly sounds that way.


Much more likely is that most people, absent one or two on this site, rightly consider rioting, looting, and wanton destruction to be evil activities, no matter what race the perpetrators happen to be.

I don't know anyone on this site that condones bad or criminal behavior. Everybody has condemned it.


And the utterly non-racial original point remains about going to a polling place to vote.


Of which we did a great job of last election cycle.

They DO stand out like a sore thumb when they are photographed or videoed. Google for protest photos and videos. And the peaceful protesters DO point out the WHITE thieves to the WHITE cops. Guess what happens then...."Guess" is the operative word. You have no idea if any of that is true or not. It's just so much nonsense.


Of course, rioting, looting, and wanton destruction by ANYONE is evil.Finally you say it.


Then election officials need to make it easy to get to a polling place, not shut them all down except for one in Timbuktu.Exaggeration on steroids. But polling places need to be abundant and easily accessible. I would agree with that.

Exaggeration on steroids. But polling places need to be abundant and easily accessible. I would agree with that.
And you're a literalist??? But must not keep up with the election news in NC and SC and TX and AZ and GA and FL.

And you're a literalist??? But must not keep up with the election news in NC and SC and TX and AZ and GA and FL.I keep up with it, both positive and negative. There are many problems. Some you acknowledge, and some you don't.

Yes you have a problem and it is called gun control, how could a teenager get an AR when he should have already been on a watch list. You do know that the massacres in the last month far surpass the one massacre that caused us to have stricter gun control and resolve to protect the people from the nutcases

There might be some areas of gun control we still need to accomplish, but nothing like the extreme, foolish measures taken in your country. As to the cause, I read this today and agree with it completely.


NPR's Steve Inskeep interviewed Darrell Gibbs, the father of a wounded shooting victim, in a Las Vegas hotel...Inskeep questions Gibbs on how he first heard the news, his daughter's injuries and expected recovery, and, finally, why this has happened.

Iinskeep: "You don't blame the gun for this?"
Gibbs: "Absolutely not."
Inskeep: "You blame the person?"
Gibbs: "Of course."
Inskeep: "What do you think is causing these mass shootings?"
Gibbs: "A Godless society."

I couldn't possibly agree more. Why do we have mass shootings now, but not fifty years ago? Godlessness. That's why. You can't sanction hundreds of thousands of killings of innocent, defenseless human beings in the womb, and then be shocked when someone acts on that same guiding principle in a mass shooting. These things cannot be separated.


how could a teenager get an AR when he should have already been on a watch list.Great question. When existing laws are not getting the job done, then adding more laws would seem to be foolish.

Godlessness? No. Mental illness in some form or other? Yes!!!

There might be some areas of gun control we still need to accomplish, but nothing like the extreme, foolish measures taken in your country. As to the cause, I read this today and agree with it completely.



I couldn't possibly agree more. Why do we have mass shootings now, but not fifty years ago? Godlessness. That's why. You can't sanction hundreds of thousands of killings of innocent, defenseless human beings in the womb, and then be shocked when someone acts on that same guiding principle in a mass shooting. These things cannot be separated.

Great question. When existing laws are not getting the job done, then adding more laws would seem to be foolish.

We don't have ridiculous laws in my country, there are millions of guns here, just more highly controlled than in your country and the result, no massacres, no teenagers running amuck, Sure the ungodly still possess them but they only harm their own mostly.

You are right however, ungodliness is the cause, but not entirely, in my country there has been a decline in church going, but not an increase in gun violence, so the two don't go hand in hand. The point is there is a different ethos and that what makes the difference. people here are unwilling to tolerate gun ownership for the sake of gun ownership. Our response to a problem isn't to take weapon in hand and kill someone

Godlessness? No. Mental illness in some form or other? Yes!!!Are you seriously trying to suggest that there was no mental illness sixty years ago when mass shootings were extremely rare? Really? Sixty years ago there were basically no gun laws and anyone could own whatever gun he wanted short of a fully automatic weapon. Where I went to school, boys brought their hunting rifles to school to go hunting when school was out. You could order a gun and ammo from the Sears catalog. Yet mass shootings were very rare. How do you explain all of that, WG? People were mentally ill, but they didn't go around shooting up the place. How do you explain that?

Clete, does this accurately describe gun laws in Australia?


There is only one reason for owning a handgun in Australia as a sporting shooter and that’s being a member of a pistol club and being an active member. You can not apply for a pistol license with out being a financial member of a club for at least 6 months. You can not own a firearm for self defence purposes and you can not use a handgun for hunting in Australia.

6 months probation

A person wishing to apply for a handgun licence must be active member of their pistol club and complete 6 introduction safety pistol shoots in the first 6 months of membership. Once the probation period is completed and your participations records are filled in, with written consent of the pistol club you can apply for a handgun license.

No problem because you are properly trained and observed and safe to handle a weapon but we don't need guns, we don't have nutters running around killing people

So you can have a gun when Papa Government and all the proper authorities sign off on it? Wow. Nothing like liberty!

True liberty is living in peace with other people without fear

It is for you.

Sixty years ago there were basically no gun laws and anyone could own whatever gun he wanted short of a fully automatic weapon. Where I went to school, boys brought their hunting rifles to school to go hunting when school was out. You could order a gun and ammo from the Sears catalog. Yet mass shootings were very rare. How do you explain all of that, WG? People were mentally ill, but they didn't go around shooting up the place. How do you explain that?
TV shows, a lot with police, CSI, shooters gone wild. Those didn't exist until recently. Also, especially important nowadays, the internet -- Twitter, Facebook, and Facebook groups are just a few of the online gathering places for the unhinged to vent and threaten and brag. The internet didn't exist when you went to school, JL.

The mentally ill were institutionalized back then when you were in school, JL. Now they run wild and free (too often not taking their prescribed meds), packing their AR-15s and other weaponry.

No problem because you are properly trained and observed and safe to handle a weapon but we don't need guns, we don't have nutters running around killing people
Precisely! And that's who's shooting up our country -- not the godless.

TV shows, a lot with police, CSI, shooters gone wild. Those didn't exist until recently. Also, especially important nowadays, the internet -- Twitter, Facebook, and Facebook groups are just a few of the online gathering places for the unhinged to vent and threaten and brag.There's a lot of truth in that, all of which relates back to the godlessness you claim does not exist. The ramp up in shootings FAR preceeded the internet. You must keep up better.


The mentally ill were institutionalized back then when you were in school, JL. Now they run wild and free (too often not taking their prescribed meds), packing their AR-15s and other weaponry.I agree. And guess who is responsible for that? If you said liberal dems, you nailed it.

There's a lot of truth in that, all of which relates back to the godlessness you claim does not exist. The ramp up in shootings FAR preceeded the internet. You must keep up better.
Ah, those godless mentally ill people!!! Nope, the internet has become a conduit for rage and impotence and hopelessness, to vent and decry and scream.

I agree. And guess who is responsible for that? If you said liberal dems, you nailed it.
What Ronald Reagan is not known for is the long term effect of a law he repealed that deinstitutionalized mentally ill patients at the federal level. This decision to deinstitutionalize mentally ill patients had a very deleterious effect on these patients, their communities, and the agencies that too often were helpless to deal with their mental health issues.

Read again very carefully. The godless elements are underlined so you can easily see them. "TV shows, a lot with police, CSI, shooters gone wild. Those didn't exist until recently. Also, especially important nowadays, the internet -- Twitter, Facebook, and Facebook groups are just a few of the online gathering places for the unhinged to vent and threaten and brag."


What Ronald Reagan is not known for is the long term effect of a law he repealed that deinstitutionalized mentally ill patients at the federal level. The vast, vast, vast majority of institutionalized mentally ill patients were on a state level. The emptying of those facilities occurred largely because of court cases brought by well meaning, foolish liberals.

Read again very carefully. The godless elements are underlined so you can easily see them. "TV shows, a lot with police, CSI, shooters gone wild. Those didn't exist until recently. Also, especially important nowadays, the internet -- Twitter, Facebook, and Facebook groups are just a few of the online gathering places for the unhinged to vent and threaten and brag."Police and CSI aren't godless. Shooters are mentally ill and/or have personal challenges.
The vast, vast, vast majority of institutionalized mentally ill patients were on a state level. The emptying of those facilities occurred largely because of court cases brought by well meaning, foolish liberals.
States obey and follow federal guidelines. Reagan was a Republican.

Police and CSI aren't godless.Nah. All those murders, rapes, shootings, sexual assaults, and immoral sexual relationships are not godless. Well...I guess they are not godless to you. They are to me. The state of television and movies relative fifty years ago is like comparing a nice farm pond to a cesspool. If you really believe that we have not become a much less godly country than we were fifty years ago, then I don't know how to help you. Just in terms of hundreds of thousands of abortions a year, and the refusal to condemn it by professing Christians like you, we are living in a cesspool. When it's perfectly OK to kill the most innocent and defenseless, then what do you tell someone who merely wants to kill five or six adults? How do you make that argument?

State mental institutions are not controlled by the feds. And your reference to Reagan is simply wrong.


"The disappearance (http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2017/11/30/america-psychiatric-hospitals) of long-term-care facilities and psychiatric beds has escalated over the past decade, sparked by a trend toward deinstitutionalization of psychiatric patients in the 1950s and '60s, says Dominic Sisti, director of the Scattergood Program for Applied Ethics of Behavioral Health Care at the University of Pennsylvania."State hospitals began to realize that individuals who were there probably could do well in the community," he tells Here & Now's Jeremy Hobson. "It was well-intended, but what I believe happened over the past 50 years is that there's been such an evaporation of psychiatric therapeutic spaces that now we lack a sufficient number of psychiatric beds."

Now to be clear, I completely agree with you about the state of mental health care.

https://www.npr.org/2017/11/30/567477160/how-the-loss-of-u-s-psychiatric-hospitals-led-to-a-mental-health-crisis

Nah. All those murders, rapes, shootings, sexual assaults, and immoral sexual relationships are not godless. Well...I guess they are not godless to you. They are to me.
Thus, Derek Chauvin is guilty of murdering George Floyd by kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds.


State mental institutions are not controlled by the feds. And your reference to Reagan is simply wrong.
I didn't say they were, but they do follow federal guidelines. Reagan was a Republican.

Thus, Derek Chauvin is guilty of murdering George Floyd by kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds.It's in a court of law where it should be. I'm not sure that was the cause of death, but if it was, then he is guilty.


Reagan was a Republican.
So?

So?
You were damning liberals.

Reagan was not responsible for this mess. That largely occurred twenty or thirty years before.

Besides all of that, most of these mass shooters were by no means active mental health patients. Most of them, it seems to me, come from dysfunctional family situations which is yet another result of the general drift towards godlessness in our country.

Reagan was not responsible for this mess. That largely occurred twenty or thirty years before.
What occurred???

Besides all of that, most of these mass shooters were by no means active mental health patients. Most of them, it seems to me, come from dysfunctional family situations which is yet another result of the general drift towards godlessness in our country.
There's no mental illness in "godly" families and thus no shootings or other mayhem. Gotcha! (Oh, do I have true stories to tell you that will give you nightmares!)

What occurred???I posted it earlier. You didn't bother to read it. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=848037&page=6&p=3867273#post3867273


There's no mental illness in "godly" families and thus no shootings or other mayhem. Gotcha! Who said there wasn't? Why do you keep making these things up?

I posted it earlier. You didn't bother to read it.
Okay. 1955. Eisenhower, a Republican.

Deinstitutionalization began in 1955 with the widespread introduction of chlorpromazine, commonly known as Thorazine, the first effective antipsychotic medication, and received a major impetus 10 years later with the enactment of federal Medicaid and Medicare.

Who said there wasn't? Why do you keep making these things up?
Godliness isn't going to make us all civilized. That won't happen until the next life.

1955. Eisenhower, a Republican.So you make up something about Eisenhower, and then completely ignore this. Am I surprised? No.

"While President Trump and others have claimed a connection exists between mental illness and the rise in gun violence, most mental health professionals vehemently disagree."There is no real connection between an individual with a mental health diagnosis and mass shootings. That connection according to all experts doesn't exist," says Bethany Lilly of the Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law."

It does give me great amusement to see that you have allied yourself with Trump.


Godliness isn't going to make us all civilized.
You need to read this. How Christianity Changed the World

So you make up something about Eisenhower, and then completely ignore this. Am I surprised? No.

"While President Trump and others have claimed a connection exists between mental illness and the rise in gun violence, most mental health professionals vehemently disagree."There is no real connection between an individual with a mental health diagnosis and mass shootings. That connection according to all experts doesn't exist," says Bethany Lilly of the Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law."
You don't read the newspapers and listen to the tv news about mass murderers' motives. Should I make a list? All the deadly school shootings that happened since Columbine were because the shooters hadn't gotten dessert after dinner or just didn't like young kids. No mental illness. Got it!

You don't read the newspapers and listen to the tv news about mass murderers' motives. Should I make a list? All the deadly school shootings that happened since Columbine were because the shooters hadn't gotten dessert after dinner or just didn't like young kids. No mental illness. Got it!To you and Donald Trump I will simply repeat this. "... most mental health professionals vehemently disagree."There is no real connection between an individual with a mental health diagnosis and mass shootings. That connection according to all experts doesn't exist," says Bethany Lilly of the Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law."


All the deadly school shootings that happened since Columbine were because the shooters hadn't gotten dessert after dinner or just didn't like young kids. No mental illness. Got it!A very foolish and simplistic rendering of a very serious problem.

I'm not sure that was the cause of death,

This re the Chauvin trial of murdering Floyd. A bizarro statement. If you're "not sure", what are you not sure of? What are you sure of? What do you think the cause of death was? As far as I can tell, you are the only one on the entire planet who is not sure of the cause of death. Buy a television or a newspaper.

Huh. Looks like there are others after all.

"KASTE: Well, clarity is what the prosecution was hoping for today. They have a bit of a problem because the language on George Floyd's death certificate is open to interpretation. The cause of death is the following - quote, "cardiopulmonary arrest, complicating law enforcement subdural restraint and neck compression. The certificate also gives contributing factors such as heart disease, fentanyl intoxication and recent meth use.So today we heard from the man responsible for the words on the death certificate, Andrew Baker, the chief medical examiner for Hennepin County. And he talked about how contributing factors, such as Floyd's heart disease, combined with all that adrenaline that was rushing through Floyd's body."

"CHANG: OK, so it sounds like he's saying police did cause Floyd's death but with the help of other medical factors?
KASTE: Yeah, so I think what's important to point out here is that the prosecutors did not put him on the stand first. Instead, they started the day with another forensic pathologist, Lindsey Thomas. She used to work in Hennepin County. And she said she agreed with the official cause of death, but she interpreted it this way."

In the interest of fairness, it goes on to say, "LINDSEY THOMAS: What it means to me is that the activities of the law enforcement officers resulted in Mr. Floyd's death and that, specifically, those activities were the subdural restraint and the neck compression."

Note the expression, "What it means to me..." Hardly a hard and fast statement.

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/09/985860456/state-looked-for-official-cause-of-death-on-10th-day-of-derek-chauvins-murder-tr

Your anti-police bias is showing itself.

And if I died while police were sitting on me and kneeling on my neck for ten minutes, the cause of death would be aplastic anemia?

I have no idea and neither do you. I tell you what mental health professionals say about mass shootings and you just blow it off since you think you and Trump are smarter than them. Now I tell you what a med examiner said and evidently you are smarter than him as well. How impressive.

I have no idea and neither do you. I tell you what mental health professionals say about mass shootings and you just blow it off since you think you and Trump are smarter than them. Now I tell you what a med examiner said and evidently you are smarter than him as well. How impressive.
Those medical professionals were skating, as you well know. Reread their comments and notice their hedging.

Those medical professionals were skating, as you well know. Reread their comments and notice their hedging.The mental health professionals were skating? Well, let's post the passage again. "...most mental health professionals vehemently disagree."There is no real connection between an individual with a mental health diagnosis and mass shootings. That connection according to all experts doesn't exist," says Bethany Lilly of the Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law."

But as I said, you and DT apparently know better.

As to the med examiner, you don't "skate" when you are under oath in a high profile trial.

I've found that this seems to be your MO when the facts don't agree with you. You start resorting to "skating" and "hedging". In other words, "Don't pay attention to what they say. Pay attention to what WG says." Sorry, but I don't like that option. I'll stick with the pros.

Huh. Looks like there are others after all.

No, there are not. Under cross, Medical Examiner Baker testified that those things ( drug use, heart problems, narrowed arteries ) were NOT the primary cause of death. Kaste is not a witness. He's a reporter.


"CHANG: OK, so it sounds like he's saying police did cause Floyd's death but with the help of other medical factors?Chang was a policeman at the scene. According to your own quote by the reporter, Chang said the police DID cause Floyd's death. In any case, Chang is not qualified to say what the cause of death was.


LINDSEY THOMAS: What it means to me is that the activities of the law enforcement officers resulted in Mr. Floyd's death and that, specifically, those activities were the subdural restraint and the neck compression."

Could it be any clearer what she testified the cause of death was?


Note the expression, "What it means to me..." Hardly a hard and fast statement.

Another glaring example of your inability to process the meaning of language.


Your anti-police bias is showing itself.

To you, facts disputing whatever your contention is, are the result of bias.

Another glaring example of your inability to process the meaning of language.Matter of opinion. It was far from being a definite statement.



Your anti-police bias is showing itself.


To you, facts disputing whatever your contention is, are the result of bias.If you had any it would be helpful.

Matter of opinion. It was far from being a definite statement.

It's not a "matter of opinion". It's right there in black and white. "What it means to me" means "What-it-means-to-me"! Nothing could be more "definite"!


If you had any it would be helpful.

Good Lord. I just gave you facts - one in your own words!

The statement is clear that several factors contributed to the mans death. The actions of chauvin head the list but he was not the only factor.

The statement is clear that several factors contributed to the mans death. The actions of chauvin head the list but he was not the only factor.
So you're saying he would have died right there no matter what, even if the police weren't on site.

So you're saying he would have died right there no matter what.How in the world did you come up with that? The testimony seems to be that if not for several underlying med conditions, he likely would have survived. Does that excuse Chauvin's actions? No, and that's why I say I am content to let the trial play out.

Here's how you and I are different. I appreciate what those cops in blue do for me. They have an unspeakably difficult job and they deserve our undying appreciation and love. So when one does something that looks questionable, I don't jump all over that person just to validate my liberal dem creds like you seem to do. I believe in giving the cop due process. I mourn over a person killed for no good reason AND for a cop whose life is basically over. That's how we are different. If Chauvin is guilty, and he does seem to be, then it's a tragedy on several different levels. You seem to view these cases as nothing but an opportunity to show everyone how liberal you are.

The statement is clear that several factors contributed to the mans death. The actions of chauvin head the list but he was not the only factor.

That was completely rejected by witnesses during cross examination and by direct testimony in the first phase of the trial by prosecution witnesses. Saying several factors contributed to the man's death is like saying being born contributed to the man's death. We all die eventually so living is a contributing factor since it leads to death.

I repeat - nobody but you is unsure of the cause of death of Floyd.

Yeah. Me and the medical examiner.

I'll just repeat what I've said. I find nothing to rejoice in with this case as you seem to. It's all unspeakably tragic, both the death of George Floyd, and the extreme going astray of Chauvin. I mourn that he will have to spend most of the rest of his life in jail. So I'm not going to try and turn it into a cheap, pathetic political statement just to prove some liberal bona fides the way you seem so eager to do. Perhaps I have misread that. I hope so. At any rate, I love the police and treasure them. I can sleep securely at night because they are willing to risk their lives to keep all of us safe. I am THRILLED to give them both the benefit of the doubt and due process. If one of them is guilty, then so be it, but if it doesn't tear your heart, then your heart is not right.

The testimony seems to be that if not for several underlying med conditions, he likely would have survived.

SEEMS TO BE? SEEMS?

Not a single witness testified that Floyd likely would have survived if not for several underlying med conditions. NOT ONE! You're making this up out of whole cloth. And you have the temerity to call me and others liars! You are pathetic.

I'll just repeat what I've said. I find nothing to rejoice in with this case as you seem to. ..... blah, blah, blah ............................................... to prove some liberal bona fides the way you seem ............................ more blah, blah .................................................. ................................. heart, then your heart is not right.

What a bunch of hogwash! You can't deal with the facts opposing everything you've said so you go back to your old standby - blame the liberal Dems no matter the issue. You are some piece of work - predictable as always.

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JL, please allow a 154-pound man to kneel on your neck for 9 minutes 29 seconds while your hands are cuffed behind your back and you are lying facedown on a parking lot.

JL, please allow a 154-pound man to kneel on your neck for 9 minutes 29 seconds while your hands are cuffed behind your back and you are lying facedown on a parking lot.

ah, you've been there! Saturday night at the Blue oyster bar and grill.

Not a single witness testified that Floyd likely would have survived if not for several underlying med conditions. NOT ONE! You're making this up out of whole cloth. And you have the temerity to call me and others liars! You are pathetic.Doesn't get much plainer than this. I'm not saying he's right, but your claim is plainly false.


(CNN)Maryland's former chief medical examiner testified for Derek Chauvin's defense on Wednesday that George Floyd died due to his underlying heart disease -- not the police restraint.

"In my opinion, Mr. Floyd had a sudden cardiac arrhythmia, or cardiac arrhythmia, due to his atherosclerosis and hypertensive heart disease ... during his restraint and subdual by the police," said Dr. David Fowler, a forensic pathologist who retired as Maryland's chief medical examiner at the end of 2019.
Floyd had narrowed coronary arteries, known as atherosclerosis, and an enlarged heart due to his high blood pressure, or hypertension, Fowler said. Floyd's fentanyl and methamphetamine use and a tumor known as a paraganglioma were other significant conditions that contributed to his death, he said.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/14/us/derek-chauvin-trial-george-floyd-day-13/index.html

I realize you guys are enjoying your opportunity to crucify a police officer. I just don't get that pleasure.


JL, please allow a 154-pound man to kneel on your neck for 9 minutes 29 seconds while your hands are cuffed behind your back and you are lying facedown on a parking lot.WG, try being a policeman for a week and then get back with us. I feel very certain your view of the world, and of the police, will change enormously. Your behavior about this is what I find disappointing. You have lived your entire life under the protection of cops who risk life and limb everyday, and yet you get such glee out of this opportunity to give a legal beat down to a policeman.

no they are crucifying a murderer

no they are crucifying a murdererIf you don't think the key factor in this trial is the fact that Chauvin was a police officer, then you need a lot of help. That is the ONLY reason it is a national storym, and it is the ONLY reason liberal dems have even one ounce of interest in this tragedy.

No, the key factor in this case is the excessive force by cops causing death caught on camera!!!

WG, try being a policeman for a week and then get back with us. I feel very certain your view of the world, and of the police, will change enormously. Your behavior about this is what I find disappointing. You have lived your entire life under the protection of cops who risk life and limb everyday, and yet you get such glee out of this opportunity to give a legal beat down to a policeman.
I have been closely involved with them, as part of one of my psych internships. Chauvin is a little man who was intimidated by a bigger Black man who may not have even known that $20 was counterfeit. Who examines the bills in their wallet to check for counterfeit? AND, was it ever proven to be counterfeit, or was just the clerk's supposition?

Would YOU have realized that $20 wasn't the real thing?

I have been closely involved with them, as part of one of my psych internships.How many patrols did you go on? How many arrests did you participate in?


Chauvin is a little man who was intimidated by a bigger Black man who may not have even known that $20 was counterfeit.And you know this how?


Who examines the bills in their wallet to check for counterfeit? AND, was it ever proven to be counterfeit, or was just the clerk's supposition?I have no idea. I do know that when the police say you are under arrest, then you are under arrest. If you resist, it's not good. But yet again, that's why it has gone to trial. We'll see what the jury decides. I'll live with it either way, regardless of how much Maxine Waters encourages violence, and regardless of how disappointed it seems you will be to not be able to put a cop in jail if he is found innocent.

I don't think DC is guilty of second degree murder. I'm not saying he is not responsible in some way for GF's death, but I don't see how it amounts to second degree murder. I don't see how you can show that DC intended for GF to die. Manslaughter?? That sounds reasonable.

no they are crucifying a murderer

It was standard procedure...It is no longer in the rule book.

I've been in similar situations. Had our boy Floyd, not Resisted, crying , fighting, panicking etc.
There'd be a good chance he'd have survived this ordeal. Simply put- Floyd couldn't catch his breath.
I didn't like the way the Police handled the entire situation, it was heart wrenching to watch...I wouldn't want to see it again.
They are out for blood. Chauvin, (poor Sod) will most likely take the hit.
O.J. Simpson, (Ignoramus) all over again.

Hmm, JL, you hopped and skipped right over my last question.

Would YOU have realized that $20 wasn't the real thing?

I didn't hop and skip over anything. I said as clearly as can be said, "I have no idea." School principals don't receive training on recognizing counterfeit bills.

You, however, DID "hop and skip" over my question, so I'll ask it again. You claimed, "Chauvin is a little man who was intimidated by a bigger Black man who may not have even known that $20 was counterfeit." I replied, "And you know this how?"

I will patiently wait.

I don't think DC is guilty of second degree murder. I'm not saying he is not responsible in some way for GF's death, but I don't see how it amounts to second degree murder. I don't see how you can show that DC intended for GF to die. Manslaughter?? That sounds reasonable.
GF was handcuffed behind his back, lying facedown on the pavement, had at least one cop kneeling on his legs. What threat was he that demanded DC kneel on his neck?

GF was handcuffed behind his back, lying facedown on the pavement, had at least one cop kneeling on his legs. What threat was he that demanded DC kneel on his neck?You might have a valid question, but it's one that neither you nor I can answer.

Please answer my previous question.

I'll repost it.

You, however, DID "hop and skip" over my question, so I'll ask it again. You claimed, "Chauvin is a little man who was intimidated by a bigger Black man who may not have even known that $20 was counterfeit." I replied, "And you know this how?"

I will patiently wait.

I didn't hop and skip over anything. I said as clearly as can be said, "I have no idea." School principals don't receive training on recognizing counterfeit bills.
Yet GF knew it was counterfeit? How do you know he was deliberately using it and cheating that store?

You, however, DID "hop and skip" over my question, so I'll ask it again. You claimed, "Chauvin is a little man who was intimidated by a bigger Black man who may not have even known that $20 was counterfeit." I replied, "And you know this how?"
I know it the same way DC knew that GF knew it.

Yet GF knew it was counterfeit? How do you know he was deliberately using it and cheating that store?Police officers ARE trained to recognize counterfeit bills. I have no idea if its use was deliberate.


I know it the same way DC knew that GF knew it.In other words, you have no clue.

I do know that if GF was innocent, and perhaps he was, then it would have been a simple process to prove his innocence. Comply with the police and live to see another day.

I have no idea if its use was deliberate.

Irrelevant. Being a 'known Felon.'

A Felon is screwed either way.

I'll ask it for you WG; How'd he know he was a Felon?
Answer: Because he's Black? Not true, but you can run with it.

I do know that if GF was innocent, and perhaps he was, then it would have been a simple process to prove his innocence. Comply with the police and live to see another day.
And were the police gently questioning him at first (as they would have done with a white dude)?

A Felon is screwed either way.
Too true.

I'll ask it for you WG; How'd he know he was a Felon?
Answer: Because he's Black? Not true, but you can run with it.
My favorite (white) nephew is a felon. He and I wrote letters back and forth during his six years in prison.

The thing you conservatives ignore is the prone position with 3 cops on GF and a knee to the neck for more than 9 minutes...with the last 3 being after his demise. I might add that he was dragged from the vehicle to be proned AFTER he was handcuffed. Proning is a technique for handcuffing and NOT to solicit compliance.

When asked by a fellow officer if GF should be rolled to his side as per dept regs and training, DC replied NO, He stays down where he is! That was in the video, as played in court.

Too true.



A felon Is guilty until proven innocent.
If a known felon is caught with any paraphernalia, illegal activity, being around other felons,,,anything! They can be arrested (screwed) on the spot.

I posted this before you responded.

I'll ask it for you WG; How'd he know he was a Felon?
Answer: Because he's Black? Not true, but you can run with it.
Aren't I amazing!

Then you come up with this-


And were the police gently questioning him at first (as they would have done with a white dude)?
You decided to run with it, no surprise.

Change is in the air (let's hope it continues) We have our fall guy. There can be only one outcome. GUILTY.  

If a known felon is caught with any paraphernalia,
True for anyone.

illegal activity,
True for anyone.

being around other felons,,,anything!Complete nonsense and totally not true.


And were the police gently questioning him at first (as they would have done with a white dude)?If there is any justice in this world, should you need a cop in the future, and if they are aware of your prejudice and racism, then they'll just find someone else to help.

If there is any justice in this world, should you need a cop in the future, and if they are aware of your prejudice and racism, then they'll just find someone else to help.
I have called the cops and have also been stopped while driving. My comment wasn't "prejudice and racism" -- it's all too true.

And were the police gently questioning him at first (as they would have done with a white dude)?Complete prejudice against the police and completely racist in assuming that they prefer whites over other races.

Complete prejudice against the police and completely racist in assuming that they prefer whites over other races.
Depends on where it is.

There are good cops, and there are not so good cops, and some that are lousy for whatever reason. Get rid of bad cops, a simple enough concept.

Complete nonsense and totally not true.

True: Terms of probation or parole prohibit this.


There are good cops, and there are not so good cops, and some that are lousy for whatever reason. Get rid of bad cops, a simple enough concept.

Not likely. They are only human. Not to mention, they are recruited from the armed forces, most the time.

Not likely. They are only human. Not to mention, they are recruited from the armed forces, most the time.
And not the sharpest knives in the drawer....

And not the sharpest knives in the drawer....Wow. You are one of the most prejudiced people I have ever met.

Wow. You are one of the most prejudiced people I have ever met.
Tell me I'm wrong. It certainly isn't prejudice on my part! They aren't expected to think on their own but to do what they've been trained and told to do by superiors who don't want independent thinkers to buck the system.

Tell me I'm wrong. You're wrong. There is no evidence to support your sickening statement.


It certainly isn't prejudice on my part! They aren't expected to think on their own but to do what they've been trained and told to do by superiors who don't want independent thinkers to buck the system.It is absolutely prejudice on your part. And you are one of the ones who go about constantly calling for better training, but then want to whine that the police actually follow their training. So do you want them to follow this unspecified, yet to be determined new training of yours? Make up your mind. Should they follow training or not???

I'll say it again. Your prejudice against the police, which you cannot support with so much as a shred of data, is the worst I have seen in any person in many years. And I mean prejudice in general, and not just against the cops. Most white supremacists will have to work harder to reach your level. Your delight in the Chauvin case can barely be concealed, and I find that to be sickening.

It is absolutely prejudice on your part. And you are one of the ones who go about constantly calling for better training, but then want to whine that the police actually follow their training. So do you want them to follow this unspecified, yet to be determined new training of yours? Make up your mind. Should they follow training or not???

The police should be at a minimum. Too often, the 911 calls are more suited to social services -- the homeless guy in the men's bathroom, stripping naked so he can wash himself, the woman high on opioids running amok as she screams, the small, crying child wandering around in the park.

Get a little lost with your copy/paste process???


The police should be at a minimum. Too often, the 911 calls are more suited to social services -- the homeless guy in the men's bathroom, stripping naked so he can wash himself.That can all be discussed and I see some sense in your statement. But when you accuse the police of blatant, widespread racism, you have gone way, way too far. It's just disgusting to read.

Get a little lost with your copy/paste process???
Pardon me, O writer of perfect prose. I'm using a Kindle and typing with my left pointer finger fingernail.

That can all be discussed and I see some sense in your statement. But when you accuse the police of blatant, widespread racism, you have gone way, way too far. It's just disgusting to read.
I didn't accuse them of racism as much as being required to march to the department's drumbeat.

Btw, how often have you driven a car while Black? Shopped while Black? Attended a mostly white church service while Black?

I didn't accuse them of racism as much as being required to march to the department's drumbeat.Oh yes you did. "And were the police gently questioning him at first (as they would have done with a white dude)?"


Btw, how often have you driven a car while Black? Shopped while Black? Attended a mostly white church service while Black?Oh good grief. We have already dismissed this foolish question weeks ago. I haven't, you haven't, and no other white person has, so it's a meaningless exercise. I have been the only white person in a black church. I have been one of only two white people in a Choctaw Indian church. I was one of only four white people at a soul music concert many years ago. I was a principal of a 90% black school for ten years. And guess what all of that proves? Nothing other than I know what it's like to be, at least briefly, in the minority. But that still proves nothing. It's a completely foolish question with no point and no achievable objective whatsoever. It's the kind of question white liberal dems love to ask because they think it shows how wise, thoughtful, and empathetic they are. All it really is is an exercise is nothing.

Beware the man who experiences but doesn't learn.

I know what it's like to be, at least briefly, in the minority.
You were briefly in the minority numberswise, but have always been in the majority as per race.

You were briefly in the minority numberswise, but have always been in the majority as per race.That stunningly obvious truth about you, me, and practically every other white person has already been established multiple times. What on earth is your point?

That stunningly obvious truth about you, me, and practically every other white person has already been established multiple times. What on earth is your point?
Then why the brag about being with non-whites?

Sorry, but you asked a completely pointless question with an answer that even a first grader could have guessed. "Btw, how often have you driven a car while Black? Shopped while Black? Attended a mostly white church service while Black?" You got an answer. Stop whining.

Sorry, but you asked a completely pointless question with an answer that even a first grader could have guessed. "Btw, how often have you driven a car while Black? Shopped while Black? Attended a mostly white church service while Black?" You got an answer. Stop whining.
They were thought (do you recognize the term rhetorical?) questions with obvious answers. I didn't need answers. I KNEW the answers!

Great! Now we ALL know the answer!

They were thought (do you recognize the term rhetorical?) questions with obvious answers. I didn't need answers. I KNEW the answers!

But WG you know JL has all the answers

Mr. Cheerful has returned. Yay, I guess. But I'll bet EVEN CLETE can answer this one. "Btw, how often have you driven a car while Black? Shopped while Black? Attended a mostly white church service while Black?" Be careful Clete. It's one of those "thought question" thingies.

Mr. Cheerful has returned. Yay, I guess. But I'll bet EVEN CLETE can answer this one. "Btw, how often have you driven a car while Black? Shopped while Black? Attended a mostly white church service while Black?" Be careful Clete. It's one of those "thought question" thingies.

Well unless you mean while wearing my custom made black leather coat, never. Doesn't stop me from knowing black people, there are a few in my Church and they don't feel uncomfortable at all associating with us whities but then, this is a different place

Mr. Cheerful has returned. Yay, I guess. But I'll bet EVEN CLETE can answer this one. "Btw, how often have you driven a car while Black? Shopped while Black? Attended a mostly white church service while Black?" Be careful Clete. It's one of those "thought question" thingies.
You apparently don't know what rhetorical means.

It's one of those "thought question" thingies.
Oh good! Sounds right up my ally.

"Btw, how often have you driven a car while Black?
I've Driven a Black car while having a black face on, dressed as a woman. (Halloween party)

Shopped while Black?
I went Shopping while having two black eyes and half my body being black and blue.

Attended a mostly white church service while Black?"
I've attended a 'mostly white church' being black...same Halloween party.

In todays world, if somebody says they are 'Black' who are you to disagree?

Anything and everything is broadcasted across the globe. I member when news was a once a day thing.
But noooo! We weren't getting enough news, we needed MORE News. Now we can watch/listen news 24hrs a day.
Being fed way too much information, and the downhill spiral continues...news, news, news down, down, down!

When I was a young Lad, I was taught to be color blind...But nooo, that isn't right anymore.
Welcome to the Jungle Baby!!!

You apparently don't know what rhetorical means.There are rhetorical questions and then there are foolish questions.

Why is it that no one ever asks, "Have you ever driven while Latino," or "Have you ever driven while Native American?" "Have you ever driven while female?" "Have you ever driven while a dog?" They would all be equally shallow questions that would make as much sense as asking, "Have you ever driven while black?" Best of all, "Have you ever BEEN black?" The supposed point of such "wise" questions is to suggest that a white person cannot understand what it's like to be black. But the reverse is also true, and it's true on many other levels as well, so it's all just nonsense that takes a discussion nowhere useful and has, as best as I can see, no other purpose but to try to make the person asking the question feel wise and insightful. It certainly has nothing to do with the DC trial.

There are rhetorical questions and then there are foolish questions.

Rhetorical means no answer or response is needed. Even you have outdone yourself!

There are rhetorical questions and then there are foolish questions.

Why is it that no one ever asks, "Have you ever driven while Latino," or "Have you ever driven while Native American?" "Have you ever driven while female?" "Have you ever driven while a dog?" They would all be equally shallow questions that would make as much sense as asking, "Have you ever driven while black?" Best of all, "Have you ever BEEN black?" The supposed point of such "wise" questions is to suggest that a white person cannot understand what it's like to be black. But the reverse is also true, and it's true on many other levels as well, so it's all just nonsense that takes a discussion nowhere useful and has, as best as I can see, no other purpose but to try to make the person asking the question feel wise and insightful. It certainly has nothing to do with the DC trial.

Nice try to dismiss the relevance of others.

Rhetorical means no answer or response is needed. Even you have outdone yourself!Now that you have stated what everyone here already knows, perhaps you can get around to stating what the point was in your supposedly rhetorical question, and especially as it concerns the DC trial. Now I'm pretty sure you can't or won't, but maybe you will surprise me.

Now that you have stated what everyone here already knows, perhaps you can get around to stating what the point was in your supposedly rhetorical question, and especially as it concerns the DC trial. Now I'm pretty sure you can't or won't, but maybe you will surprise me.
Empathy.

Roger.

Empathy for who, DC, GF, or both?

Empathy for who, DC, GF, or both?
Even for you.

So I am left to assume, since you did not directly answer the question, that you mean both. I would agree with that.

So I am left to assume, since you did not directly answer the question, that you mean both. I would agree with that.
For Blacks, for Latinx, for Asians, for Native Americans, for whites, for the LGBT+ community, and especially for cats and dogs.

and for the police.

I have no sympathy for the abuser of his authority and responsibility when it costs the life of one he was charged with serving and protecting and happy he was held to account for his action. DC found guilty of ALL charges.

Sentencing pending.

Yes guilty of abusing the trust the community placed in him, and undoubtedly guilty of murder, but the prosecution couldn't prove motive so they settled for three lesser charges

Juan Williams made the cut . Evidently he is not Black enough for any Network but Fox. Williams wrote an op-ed about it .
Juan Williams: Am I not Black enough? | TheHill (https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/548925-juan-williams-am-i-not-black-enough)

He is liberal, a Democratic Party cheerleader, author of multiple books on race relations ,and black . Just not enough so .

Perhaps the key paragraph.

"The sin here is arrogance. It is an unspoken bias that causes too many gatekeepers in American media, business and academia to put people in boxes so they can dismiss or ignore their point of view."

I might add that it is not merely, "so they can dismiss or ignore their point of view," but so they can advance their own views without the inconvenience of having to show why we should accept those views.

Yes guilty of abusing the trust the community placed in him, and undoubtedly guilty of murder, but the prosecution couldn't prove motive so they settled for three lesser charges

Lesser charges that carry an aggregate of 75 years in jail.


Juan Williams made the cut . Evidently he is not Black enough for any Network but Fox. Williams wrote an op-ed about it .
Juan Williams: Am I not Black enough? | TheHill (https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/548925-juan-williams-am-i-not-black-enough)

He is liberal, a Democratic Party cheerleader, author of multiple books on race relations ,and black . Just not enough so .

What a noghead but more reflective of one than a wholesale policy as has been all your black lists.

By JL/


I might add that it is not merely, "so they can dismiss or ignore their point of view," but so they can advance their own views without the inconvenience of having to show why we should accept those views.

Everybody does that...DUUUUUUUH!

Lesser charges that carry an aggregate of 75 years in jail.

all US sentencing seems excessive in lieu of the death penalty, this is what happens when you don't plead guilty to a lesser charge



so Duuuh!

Kieran Bhattacharya dared to question the scientific validity of the term “microaggressions” during a panel discussion at the University of Virginia’s School of Medicine.

Beginning at about 28 minutes. Bhattacharya is respectful and calm, and is asking legitimate questions. It appears his main concern was the blanket vagueness of the term that allows anyone to claim a microaggression for almost any statement or act.
Microaggressions (presented By AMWA) by medgate (soundcloud.com) (https://soundcloud.com/user-381804527/microagressions-presented-by-amwa)

As a result, the administration had branded him a threat to the university and banned him from campus.

Who knew that questioning the concept of microaggression was a microaggression in itself ?


The student was informed that he must be evaluated by psychological services before returning to classes. Bhattacharya repeatedly asked university officials to clarify what exactly he was accused of, under whose authority his counseling had been mandated, and why his enrollment status was suddenly in doubt, according to [Bhattacharya’s subsequent] lawsuit. These queries only appear to have made UVA officials more determined to punish him: Bhattacharya’s mounting frustration with these baseless accusations of unspecified wrongdoings was essentially treated as evidence that he was guilty. At his hearing, he was accused of being “extremely defensive” and ordered to change his “aggressive, threatening behavior.”
He was ultimately suspended for “aggressive and inappropriate interactions in multiple situations.” On December 30, UVA police ordered him to leave campus.
A Medical Student Questioned Microaggressions. UVA Branded Him a Threat and Banished Him from Campus. – Reason.com (https://reason.com/2021/04/07/microaggressions-uva-student-kieran-bhattacharya-threat/)

Welcome to the 1930's USSR. Thank goodness he at least has some backbone and is resisting.

Bravo the the Kentucky Derby . They refuse the pressure from the cancel culture and will include the song ' My old Kentucky Home ' .The state anthem ,written by Stephen Foster in 1853 , has been played before every race since 1921. According to Snooze Week "Foster is believed to have been inspired by Harriet Beecher Stowe's novel Uncle Tom's Cabin, initially naming the song "Poor Old Uncle Tom, Good-Night!"...... "Foster's intentions and the song's meaning have long been debated, with many people considering "My Old Kentucky Home" to be racist."

But as Snooze Week also points out ; "a condemnation of Kentucky's enslavers who sold husbands away from their wives and mothers away from their children," and as "the lament of an enslaved person who has been forcibly separated from his family and his painful longing to return to the cabin with his wife and children." .
Why 'My Old Kentucky Home' is So Controversial (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/why-my-old-kentucky-home-so-controversial-1587815)

So the idea that the song is a racists song is absurd .

Me I'll be rooting for 'Hot Rod Charlie ' to win the race because I like the name .

black listed today is any ex Trump Administration official who wants to get published by Simon and Shuster . Specifically VP Pence ,but a petition by employees makes it clear that they consider all former Trumpsters as persona non grata .

Simon & Schuster Employees Submit Petition Demanding No Deals With Trump Administration Authors - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/simon-schuster-employees-submit-petition-demanding-no-deals-with-trump-administration-authors-11619449307)

Kudos to Simon & Schuster President and CEO Jonathan Karp who defended the company's decision to publish Pence's work, citing the company's duty to "publish, not cancel."

Here's a good one for you sports fans. The symbol baseball uses for a strike out is a "K" . In many stadium ,a "K" is put up on the board to denote how many strikeouts the home pitcher has gotten. Well in Cincinnati the Reds will not put up the third K on the board until a fourth strikeout is recorded . They do not want KKK on their scoreboard. Must be that those thousands of fans at the game may mistake the contest for a Klan rally . ?

Must be quite a conflict for Cincinnati fans .... KKK or the Reds . who to root for ?

Cancelling Disney again .
A revamped version of Disneyland's famed Snow White ride is drawing backlash for portraying the 'true love's kiss' scene, which critics say undermines lessons about consent by portraying the Prince kissing Snow White while she is asleep.
Prince's real name is Chester Molester
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/05/03/05/42499622-9536441-image-a-7_1620014443741.jpg

The hits just keep on coming.

some A listers are turning into black listers, Bill and Melinda Gates are divorcing, how much will she get, Geoff Bezos wife got $8 Billion or was that $32 Billion, hard to work out, these settlements are. In the Gates case, the foundation is worth $50 Billion, some cleaver planning there, give half of your wealth to your own foundation

The Gates also convinced other shmuck billionaires to make the 'Giving Pledge ' to donate all their money to the Gates foundation . What is the split on that ?

You'll never know since all the rich guys do it and hide the books and the loot.

Latest blacklist outrage is Major League Baseball pulling the all star game out of Atlanta because of a new voter ID law passed by the Georgia legislature.


Hey MLB How did that work out for you ? The World Series is being played in Atlanta and Houston ;in two states that have voter ID laws Bwahaaahaaahaaa !!! Go Braves !!!

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It really is amazing (and not a little discouraging) that the sports world has gone so insane over this "woke" nonsense.

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Atlanta won and Commish was roundly booed when he was forced to give the trophy to the Braves !!!!! LGB

There is an amusing and I believe the 1st ever self blacklisting . Last week John Cleese of Monty Python fame tweeted this comment :


I was looking forward to talking to students at the Cambridge Union this Friday, but I hear that someone there has been blacklisted for doing an impersonation of HitlerI regret that I did the same on a Monty Python show, so I am blacklisting myself before someone else does
John Cleese on Twitter: "I was looking forward to talking to students at the Cambridge Union this Friday, but I hear that someone there has been blacklisted for doing an impersonation of Hitler I regret that I did the same on a Monty Python show, so I am blacklisting myself before someone else does" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1458353535414833163)

There is so much strange in that post. The fact that someone can be "blacklisted" and thus not allowed to speak is an outrage. That the person was blacklisted for doing an "impersonation of Hitler" is really unusual. But worst of all, the fact that those people cannot see that all of them blacklisting someone is, itself, a quite accurate impersonation of Hitler BY THEM is the saddest thing of all.

I abandoned this post for a while . Even though I could probably given an example a day ;I figured point made

However when I find an egreviously ridiculous example then I can't help myself .

So today's black lister is the secular Christmas song 'Jingle Bells' .

This is a world wide popular song .It was the first Christmas song broadcast from space (Gemini 6) President's of all political persuasion have had it performed at the White House during the holiday season.

What could be so offensive for it to be cancelled ? Could it be the violence in the song with 2 of the verses describing being thrown from horses and carriage ? .Riding on a horse drawn sleigh was evidently a dangerous activity Nope that is not it . One verse has a young couple sitting next to each other when suddenly their fast-moving sleigh overturns, landing them together in the snow.Back in 1850 it was the equivalent of a Beach Boys car song.

So why exactly was the song cancelled by Brighton’s Council Rock Primary School?

According to Council Rock principal Matt Tappon ;the song is offensive . Yes ; I bet you did not know 'Jingle Bells ' was an offensive song.

Professor Kyna Hamill, director of Boston University’s Core Curriculum wrote an article in 2017 saying it was so .He cites an article written in the Boston Globe in 1946 th at claims the song author James Pierpont in 1850 was a writer of minstrel songs and that Jingle Bells was one such song. Pierpont also wrote ballads, light opera, and polkas. That doesn't get factored in the decision. He wrote songs because he could be paid for his efforts . That the song ended up being performed in minstrel shows was not his fault . The song's lyrics are not racist . People who are offended by the song are looking for reasons to be offended .

Just another example of living in the age of opinion. Many people just blindly accept whatever they read as long as it feeds a particular ideological narrative. It's the ideology that is, in their view, important. Truth has become cheap.

Wow, JL! You've said a mouthful! You've described the Republican mindset since maybe 2016 (and probably before).

You've described the Republican mindset since maybe 2016 (and probably before).Care to elaborate on that opinion?

Many people just blindly accept whatever they read as long as it feeds a particular ideological narrative. It's the ideology that is, in their view, important. Truth has become cheap.

I couldn't have said it any better - you mean like a literal reading of the Bible?

Here are a few "elaborations":

Nationalism dubbed as patriotism. "Make America great again." (It has never been great.) Control elections. Marginalize (and ban books about) poc and the LGBT+ community.

If you think America has never been great, then you've been drinking the kool-aid far too long. As to the rest of your "truth", it is all opinion. You've documented nothing. Thank you for perfectly illustrating my point.

Who has suggested we ban books about the gays? Who has suggested we ban books about poc?

If you think America has never been great, then you've been drinking the kool-aid far too long.
When was it great?

(This country is on a path to greatness. We have yet to achieve that goal.)


Who has suggested we ban books about the gays?
Texas Republican State Rep Matt Krause has a list of 850 books that he believes should be banned from libraries, books about sex education, race, LGBTQ+, and – perhaps most troubling of all – those that teach young people about their human rights.

Also Oklahoma, Florida, Kentucky lawmakers and school principals/teachers, to name a few more.

Texas lawmaker Matt Krause has a list of 850 books that he believes should be banned

1. One man is not the republican party, so your argument has fallen flat on its face. 2. Even worse, what you are saying about Krause is not true. So once again, you are providing a perfect example of my principle. Thanks!!

If you think America has never been great, then you've been drinking the kool-aid far too long.

Let's see - America enslaved and then discriminated against human beings for 400 years because of the color of their skin.

America encountered people already living here and proceeded to exterminate as many as possible so the "Americans" could take their land and live here.

WHO is drinking the kool-aid?

1. One man is not the republican party, so your argument has fallen flat on its face. 2. Even worse, what you are saying about Krause is not true. So once again, you are providing a perfect example of my principle. Thanks!!
Do some research. Go to your public library. Ask a reference librarian for help.

You are personally okay with children and teens having access to books about sex education, race, LGBTQ+, etc.?

You conveniently failed to mention that America saved the world's bacon in TWO wars and stood alone against totalitarian oppression for the latter half of the 20th century.


Let's see - America enslaved and then discriminated against human beings for 400 years because of the color of their skin.And then went to great extremes to right those wrongs. Another little detail.

You conveniently failed to mention that America saved the world's bacon in TWO wars and stood alone against totalitarian oppression for the latter half of the 20th century.
And now we are becoming a totalitarian nation.

And then went to great extremes to right those wrongs. Another little detail.
And those wrongs have yet to be righted.

Do some research. Go to your public library. Ask a reference librarian for help.Too late! I've already done the research. What you wrote about Kraus is not true.


You are personally okay with children and teens having access to books about sex education, race, LGBTQ+, etc.?That's a WIIIDDDDE ranging question. In short, I think their parents should have the say in that.

Do you think students should be told that homosexuality is not genetically based? That there is no evidence of a genetic base for TG? That men and women are clearly made for heterosexual activity and not homosexual? Should they be told those things?

And now we are becoming a totalitarian nation.

We might agree on that one.



And those wrongs have yet to be righted.Are you serious?? Really?

Too late! I've already done the research. What you wrote about Kraus is not true.
Of course, it's true! I'm chuckling about your "research". I just discovered even Wikipedia agrees with my research about his ultra-conservative beliefs.

***In October 2021, Krause, as chair of the House Committee on General Investigating, launched an investigation into Texas school boards, asking them whether a list of 850 books on subjects of race and sexuality were in Texas libraries and classrooms. The list included Pulitzer Prize-winning novels, best sellers, and other award-winning works of literature,[20] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Krause#cite_note-Lopez-20) many of them written by women, people of color, or LGBTQ authors.[21] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Krause#cite_note-21) This list included William Styron (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Styron)'s The Confessions of Nat Turner (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Confessions_of_Nat_Turner), Ta-Nehisi Coates (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta-Nehisi_Coates)'s Between the World and Me (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Between_the_World_and_Me), and Isabel Wilkerson (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_Wilkerson)'s Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste:_The_Origins_of_Our_Discontents).[20] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Krause#cite_note-Lopez-20)[22] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Krause#cite_note-PollockLopez-22) The Texas State Teachers Association (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_State_Teachers_Association) described Krause's investigation as a politically motivated "witch hunt (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_hunt)"[20] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Krause#cite_note-Lopez-20) and Texas Democrats denounced it.[22] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Krause#cite_note-PollockLopez-22) Krause refused to explain how the list of 850 books was created, which school districts received the letter, or why he was seeking this information.[22] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Krause#cite_note-PollockLopez-22) Seven Texas school districts confirmed receiving the letter from Krause, and several indicated that they would decline to respond.[22] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Krause#cite_note-PollockLopez-22)***


That's a WIIIDDDDE ranging question. In short, I think their parents should have the say in that.
Yes, parents...not lawmakers or even teachers/principals. The books should be available.

Do you think students should be told that homosexuality is not genetically based? That there is no evidence of a genetic base for TG? That men and women are clearly made for heterosexual activity and not homosexual? Should they be told those things?
Are you a book banner? Please do research. You're stuck on a literal understanding of the early chapters of Genesis.

Are you a book banner? Please do research. You're stuck on a literal understanding of the early chapters of Genesis.Why did you dodge the question?


Of course, it's true! I'm chuckling about your "research". Even Wikipedia agrees with my research about his ultra-conservative beliefs.You made no claims about his "ultra-conservative" beliefs. You made false claims about banning books.

Porn should not be available. Books that make untrue and unscientific claims about LGBT issues should not be available.

Here is the Wikipedia link. It makes no mention of Krause proposing a book ban. Once again, you are proving the principle I mentioned above. Thanks again!! You are never-ending spring of confirmations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Krause

I added more to my post that you responded to. Please check back.

Why did you dodge the question?
According to Genesis, God created mankind as binary. But then, using their free will, Adam and Eve ate from the tree and opened up unlimited possibilities, including for human sexuality.

You made no claims about his "ultra-conservative" beliefs. You made false claims about banning books.
Read my additions in my post above.

Porn should not be available. Books that make untrue and unscientific claims about LGBT issues should not be available.
Why shouldn't porn be available? All LGBT issues and pov should be available.