Discarding the Constitutional method of voting to elect a president, Trump now leads a coup to overturn the election by relying on the courts – courts he has packed over his 4 years and now expecting payback from those judges. His record is now something like 0 for 60 and include the most bizarre allegations right out of QANON. His legal team is the Keystone Kops of the legal world.

Seeking conservative ideologues instead of judicially qualified judges, his federal judge appointments were so bad some never made it through the initial process. But, for those that did, even ideologues have their limits.

Possessed by a syndrome named after his derangement, he now expects his SC appointments to bail him out and call him the winner of the election and name him the next president of the United States. So far has he fallen.

He rails and screams against anyone who says anything the least bit uncomplimentary about him, no matter their party. As he spirals downward into the maelstrom of his insanity, the hope is that wiser and cooler heads are watching him and will prevent Trump from doing anything his madness will drive him to.

The majority of Republicans who are refusing to recognize Biden's election are a disgrace, enabling Trump's insanity.

Repubs are afraid of his still huge base voters that's actually grown bigger. He may not be president soon but he is still the leader of this loony cult.

All this is just classic Trump; deny, deny, deny. deny the legality of Obama, deny the legality of Biden, deny Russia gate, deny refugees entry. While claiming to be a positive influence Trump has been a negative influence in many ways. He has forced China into a more aggressive role, he has denied CV19 and forced america into a devastating pandemic and it goes on, like a broken record

All this is just classic Trump; deny, deny, deny. deny the legality of Obama, deny the legality of Biden, deny Russia gate, deny refugees entry. While claiming to be a positive influence Trump has been a negative influence in many ways. He has forced China into a more aggressive role, he has denied CV19 and forced america into a devastating pandemic and it goes on, like a broken record


Originally posted by talinman
Repubs are afraid of his still huge base voters that's actually grown bigger. He may not be president soon but he is still the leader of this loony cult.

Loony cult it is plus all the denials.

The loony AG in Texas has filed a suit in the SC challenging the vote in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia. Texas AG Paxton himself is already being investigated by the FBI for crooked dealings. He has no oversight in any of those states, but that hasn't stopped him. Nor has it stopped 17 Republican AGs from other states in support of his suit. No, I'm not making up any of that Republican cultish loony-ness.

Of course, there's not a chance in hell any of that will succeed. So why is Paxton doing it? Read on.

He is signalling Trump for a pardon of his criminal activity. Trump loves to pardon wrong doers. However, Trump loves to execute certain other wrong doers.

Since July, he has ordered the execution of 13 criminals on death row with five remaining to be executed by January 20. This is the greatest number of federal executions in 17 years, all being carried out during an election year to emphasize Trump's "law and order" platform. Trump is the most prolific execution president in 130 years.

In Trump's fevered brain, these executions represent those Democrats he wants executed for treason.

January 20 can't come soon enough.

In Trump's fevered brain, these executions represent those Democrats he wants executed for treason.

January 20 can't come soon enough.

Executing criminals is not up to Trump, he has the power to pardon not execute. You cannot know what is in his mind so rhetoric doesn't cut it

Executing criminals is not up to Trump, he has the power to pardon not execute. You cannot know what is in his mind so rhetoric doesn't cut it

Pay attention, paraclete. You don't know as much as you think you know about the USA.

The Trump administration, which carried out a slew of federal executions this year after a 17-year hiatus, has slated five more prisoners to be put to death between now and President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration, two of them within days of the transfer of power. These will be the most federal executions ever carried out during a presidential transition period.

The federal government hadn’t conducted a single federal execution since 2003 until Trump and Barr started the spree this year with, so far, eight executions. If all 13 executions are carried out as scheduled, President Donald Trump would have meted out more death to American prisoners in a single year in office than any presidency since Franklin D. Roosevelt’s 12 years in office.

Trump is the same person who took out a full page ad in a New York newspaper calling for death to the Central Park Five. The teenagers were later found innocent, and he never withdrew his call for their execution.

Trump also called for his Democratic opponents to be tried for treason. Treason carries the death penalty.

What type of person supports an individual like him?

He has strong opinions and maybe he gets it wrong sometimes however he is asking for the law to be applied

He has strong opinions and maybe he gets it wrong sometimes however he is asking for the law to be applied

Selectively. The law has nothing to do with it. Trump wants to do the killing because Joe Biden opposes capital punishment. No other reason other than it puts him in with his pals in North Korea, China and Russia.

The final executions are pointedly scheduled the day before the inauguration so Biden doesn't miss it.

Trump is pure evil as I've been saying on these pages for 4 years now.

where do you get these assumptions? from the tabloid press or is there a conspiracy site you visit?

where do you get these assumptions? from the tabloid press or is there a conspiracy site you visit?

Simple. I get them from Trump's documented behavior for decades. I leave the conspiracy sites to the far right and to Trump's sycophants.

you sure fooled me!

Selectively. The law has nothing to do with it. Trump wants to do the killing because Joe Biden opposes capital punishment. No other reason other than it puts him in with his pals in North Korea, China and Russia.

The final executions are pointedly scheduled the day before the inauguration so Biden doesn't miss it.

Trump is pure evil as I've been saying on these pages for 4 years now.

He has never passed on an opportunity for control or bullying, or anything else that breaks the china, or bring him a few bucks or distracts from some other nefarious thing he's doing.

Here are some of the people.

Alfred Bourgeois was sentenced to death by a Texas jury for sexually and physically abusing, torturing and beating his 3 year old daughter to death in 2002, and is scheduled to be executed on Dec. 11.

Orlando Cordia Hall, 49, was executed last week after a federal jury in 1995 found him guilty of kidnapping, raping and killing a Texas teenager.

Lisa Montgomery, 52, is scheduled to be executed on Jan. 12. Montgomery was convicted in 2004 for killing a pregnant woman and cutting the baby out.

Dustin John Higgs was convicted in 2000 of kidnapping and murdering three women. His execution is set to take place on Jan. 15.

Seems a shame that none of you give a rip about the victims. You didn't even bother to find out why these people were given the death penalty. I feel sorry for the people who committed these crimes, but execution is completely appropriate for them when you consider the enormous suffering the people they so callously murdered went through. I imagine the family members of the victims feel the same way.

Why weren't they given a speedy execution, but have languished in prison cells for years, even decades?

Well, they are not "languishing" now. As to why the wait, as you so often say, Google is your friend.

No doubt they do as do the families of the 8000 covid victims so far this week, and the hundred of thousands before them.

Quite naturally you failed to mention the 900,000 babies INTENTIONALLY aborted every year. In fact you ONLY mentioned people who have died from illness that you think you can blame on Trump. Wonder why? Politics?

Quite naturally you failed to mention the 900,000 babies INTENTIONALLY aborted every year.
How many babies has Trump asked his wives and girlfriends to abort?

None as far as I know. Can you prove any? How about Biden? How about Harris?

Here's some others.

Brandon Bernard was 18 years old along with Christopher Vialva (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/24/politics/supreme-court-federal-execution/index.html) and others when they were convicted for the 1999 murder in Texas. It was reported that they murdered a pair of ministers in Texas.

Johnson's execution is scheduled for January 14. He was convicted after he killed seven people in 1992 as a part of the drug trade in Virginia.

Just for the record I have no difficulty with the death penalty for heinous crime

Just for the record I have no difficulty with the death penalty for heinous crime

I surmised as much. My objection is based on the execution of innocent men when DNA has later established their innocence. There are too many of those. There is also the philosophical argument that the state has no right to kill a human being convicted of a crime. I find that argument weak.

A little more info.

"Bernard was 18 when he took part in the killing (https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/crime) of married youth ministers Todd and Stacie Bagley, who were from Iowa.
Five teens forced the Bagleys into the trunk of their car, robbed them, shot them, then lit the car on fire in 1999.
Todd Bagley's mother, Georgia, said Thursday that "without this process, my family and I would not have the closure needed to move on in life."
"My objection is based on the execution of innocent men when DNA has later established their innocence. There are too many of those.So far as I can find, there has never been a person executed who was later found to be innocent based on DNA evidence. However, there have been several cases of individuals being executed who were later found to likely be innocent based on other reasons, and additionally there have been cases of individuals on death row being found to be innocent prior to execution by DNA evidence. It is certainly troubling and could very well amount to a compelling reason to abandon capital punishment. The unreliability of the justice system is a genuine problem, so to the likely amazement of everyone including me, I find myself largely in agreement with Athos.

The dufusites lose yet AGAIN, and this was the BIG one!

Trump’s spin on his big Supreme Court failure is as bad as his legal case (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-spin-on-his-big-supreme-court-failure-is-as-bad-as-his-legal-case/ar-BB1bS9wO?ocid=msedgntp)

Is this red meat throwing beg for money crap over yet? Doubt it!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo-b5uXWEAIOVml?format=jpg&name=small

What is the name for a political system in which only the ballot adjudicators decide who is president? We have reached a point in this country where judges decide winners and losers .

Analysis of Antrim County Ballot Machines Made Public - 9 & 10 News (9and10news.com) (https://www.9and10news.com/2020/12/14/analysis-of-antrim-county-ballot-machines-made-public/)

It just had to have been Trump's fault. Just had to be.

Didn't judges always decide winners and losers? Sounds like the system is flawed, voting rules are not uniformly applied, the voting system is a hodge-podge of methodology. I think the name you seek is antiquated, or maybe anarchic and in need of serious review.

What I fail to understand is; in a federal election why is the system not federally administered?

What I fail to understand is; in a federal election why is the system not federally administered? Congress has such power . They should revisit the 2005 Carter -Baker Commission on elections ,formed after the 2000 election .They clearly spoke of the dangers of the mail in voting process. The report said ;‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That was not Trump speaking this election cycle .That was Jimmy Carter and James Baker 15 years ago. They also called on states to increase voter ID requirements; to halt ballot harvesting; to maintain voter lists, in part to ensure dead people are promptly removed from them; to allow election observers to monitor ballot counting; and to make sure voting machines are working properly; the media refrain from calling elections too early and from touting exit polls. Had Congress and state governments adopted many of the panel’s recommendations, the 2020 postelection mess might have been avoided.

It was only a mess because the dufus and his sycophants have made it one. Repubs including AG Barr have said there was no widespread voter fraud. 60 judicial decisions and SCOTUS have verified that fact.

and yet I provided forensic proof that at least in Michigan the voting machines were compromised . I'm not saying that by itself was decisive . That is only a handful of the 70 something electors Trump would need . Yet if these machines can be proven to have been programmed to demonstrate that algorithms were used to manipulate the count then if it doesn't overturn this election result when the final decision is made on Jan 6 ,then at least it could prevent them from being used in the Jan run off for GA Senate . .

Fact check: Dominion voting machines didn't delete or switch votes (usatoday.com) (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/14/fact-check-dominion-voting-machines-didnt-delete-switch-votes/6282157002/)

and another "fact checker " rushes to the rescue with "facts " . Gotta love those gatekeepers of the truth . The trouble is that your fact checker posted that truth before the forensic audit was conducted in Michigan and published this week .
Microsoft Word - Antrim Michigan Forensics Report 121320(9).docx (9and10news.com) (https://www.9and10news.com/content/uploads/2020/12/Antrim_Michigan_Forensics_Report_121320_v2_REDACTE D.pdf)


The audit revealed that “of the 15,676 (lines or events) there were a total of 10,667 critical errors/warnings or a 68.05% error rate.” Later in the report, ASOG says, “These are not human errors; this is definitively related to the software and software configurations resulting in error rates far beyond the thresholds listed in the guidelines.”
based on the preliminary results, we conclude that the errors are so significant that they call into question the integrity and legitimacy of the results in the Antrim County 2020 election to the point that the results are not certifiable. Because the same machines and software are used in 48 other counties in Michigan, this casts doubt on the integrity of the entire election in the state of Michigan.”

Tom they just don't get that f**kups are very prevalent and it appears that in this electoral cycle they were very prevalent.

I know Tom, I know I've heard the PUBLIC statements the dufusites have been spouting but none of this was ever presented before a judge. You can lie and bamboozle the public, but in a court before a judge lying is highly illegal with consequences.

60 cases no fruit? Unanimous SCOTUS?

which leads back to my question ..... What is the name for a political system in which only the ballot adjudicators decide who is president?

a black robed appointed for life oligarchy rubber stamps it . They quickly become part of the permanent government ;just like the bloated bureaucracy .

“I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.”Nicaraguan Dictator Anastasio Somoza

Tom how is it you quote a dictator when you have someone closer to home expressing the same opinion

That is the prevailing view of the judiciary. It is Quid supporters who found votes in the middle of the night in Georgia after counters were told to go home for the night. It was Quid supporters who suddenly put up paper on windows so observers could not see the count in Michigan. It was Quid supporters in Pa who kept ballot monitors so far away from the counters that they needed binoculars.

The pro-swamp courts in almost every case have thrown the challenges out because 'Trump had no standing ' and because even if he was right ,they saw no remedy . So yeah it is the Dems who acted like Somoza . Their coup did not succeed over the last 4 years .So they made sure the count was in their favor.

It is going to happen in Georgia too in the January Senate races. So far 1.2 million mail in ballots have been requested . But only 200,000 have been returned . That leaves the potential for a million "harvested " ballots .

which leads back to my question ..... What is the name for a political system in which only the ballot adjudicators decide who is president?

Answer. The Electoral College. See the founders for that one.


a black robed appointed for life oligarchy rubber stamps it . They quickly become part of the permanent government ;just like the bloated bureaucracy .

You mean SCOTUS? See the founders for that one too.


“I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.”Nicaraguan Dictator Anastasio Somoza

See your state for that one, and the founders who gave that power to the states. The dufus was voted out under those guidelines set forth between feds and states despite his best efforts to subvert the Constitution...for now at least. He seems to still control the repub party with an iron fist.

That is the prevailing view of the judiciary. It is Quid supporters who found votes in the middle of the night in Georgia after counters were told to go home for the night. It was Quid supporters who suddenly put up paper on windows so observers could not see the count in Michigan. It was Quid supporters in Pa who kept ballot monitors so far away from the counters that they needed binoculars.

The pro-swamp courts in almost every case have thrown the challenges out because 'Trump had no standing ' and because even if he was right ,they saw no remedy . So yeah it is the Dems who acted like Somoza . Their coup did not succeed over the last 4 years .So they made sure the count was in their favor.

It is going to happen in Georgia too in the January Senate races. So far 1.2 million mail in ballots have been requested . But only 200,000 have been returned . That leaves the potential for a million "harvested " ballots .

Nice spin as usual Tomder, but repub run states as well as dem run states have certified this election. The dufus had his days in court and got thrown out. That's one huge helluva conspiracy the dems pulled off which had no chance at success without plenty of repub help, unless you're still stuck on Xi voting twice.

Hardcore dufusite sour grapes, or a plea for cheese to go with conspiracy theory whine? I think you give the dems way to much credit, and should look to the people and party and events that ran the last 4 years.

the question is ;was the laws enacted by the state legislatures used ? Or did Governors and courts impose rules ? The framers were clear on that matter . Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors,

There is no proof in any state that the rules were broken by the governor or legislature. Court rulings are court rulings whether we like them or not. The point is we have a process to follow and resolve such disputes. Public statements are not pronouncements of law and I find it fascinating that the repub cry of voter fraud and the inherent shenanigans to prevent it using suppression, purges and ID laws and requirements have failed in the courts repeatedly.

If you want to question the federal results, then question the local ones too even where repubs enjoyed success. That's not happening so one can only conclude the hope is to try claims of voter fraud in the court of public opinion using wild claims and innuendo targeting specific constituencies when no evidence has been presented in the court of law.

A simple case of lying to the people and crying foul, which has little to do with the outcome we have certified and vested even in repub strongholds. It appears to be a great money raising tactic for repubs and their sheeple however futile that is for any changes.

The dufus just got beat by turnout, the best I've ever seen, but repubs have known turnout would be their downfall for decades now, and the cries of voter fraud has been debunked rather decisively. Not that it stops the hollering though, nor the shenanigans.

Even turtleface is telling his minions to cool it and accept the outcome. The first step to a more perfect union. When you getting on board with that Tomder?

If you want to question the federal results, then question the local ones too even where repubs enjoyed success.

Nonsense . Why would I question the results of states like California or NY that are clearly going to go the the Dem ;or red states where you know they are voting Republican . It is only swing states that are in question .


and the cries of voter fraud has been debunked rather decisively. Why because courts refuse to hear cases or make a claim that they can't enforce a remedy ? Nothing has been debunked . We probably will not know decisively until a forensic investigation is done ....... some time well after Quid is installed . Who knows ... we may never know .... just like we will never really know how Kennedy stole the 1960 election. Multiple judges and one independent prosecutor responded to Republican complaints that the vote tally was fair. But historian Robert Dallek, who wrote biographies of JFK and LBJ,, concluded that Daley’s Chi-town machine “probably stole Illinois from Nixon" .

There is no proof in any state that the rules were broken by the governor or legislature. Court rulings are court rulings whether we like them or not.That's true unless, of course, you count these.


https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/30/mail-in-voting-absentee-ballot-deadline-extension-donald-trump-joe-biden/

A judge ruling requires a petition to the court so lets just assume the better legal argument won. Never heard a judge ruling without being asked to. Have you?

hmmmm in all cases except perhaps NC ;judges and Governors over ruled the state legislatures .

And the point is that the law was not followed.

That's a broad and inaccurate premise since as I have said to prevail in a court, one side needs a better compelling argument. To suggest the governor and the courts colluded to subvert state law or authority doesn't seem at all logical. You would need a state by state examination to even arrive at that conclusion.

If you have such a case I would love to examine it.

I just gave you seven.

So extending mail in voting because of the post office problems or covid is a bad idea?

If it violates state law? Yes.

Well guy a judge ruled the changes or adjustment didn't violate the state law, even if a guy in another state disagrees. The state legislatures went along with the judges ruling even if it was grudgingly. Did they appeal those rulings? What happened?

Personally I question such an effort to disenfranchise voters. Political shenanigans. Penalizing a voter because the mail is slow or fear of covids, or even having to work on election day?

A demonrat questioning an effort to disenfranchise voters, I guess that is no the same as helping them with millions of mail in votes

The big problem is that our voting system has become questionable in the eyes of millions of Americans, and with good cause. It is the very predictable outcome of the insane idea of mass mailouts of ballots.

The big problem is that our voting system has become questionable in the eyes of millions of Americans
Hmm, wonder why THAT is???

It is because marketing has taken over from reality. PAC collect and pour in millions that are actually an infringement of funding laws but both parties benefit so noone does anything about it. These funds can be directed anyway at all and so millions of mail in votes appear as if by majic

A demonrat questioning an effort to disenfranchise voters, I guess that is no the same as helping them with millions of mail in votes

Keep drinking the fake news conspiracy against repubs perpetrated by repubs Clete. Tom and JL have an ample supply and willing to share.


The big problem is that our voting system has become questionable in the eyes of millions of Americans, and with good cause. It is the very predictable outcome of the insane idea of mass mailouts of ballots.

Naw, it's a recurring right wing theme to justify continuing Jim Crow era voter suppression.

Naw, it's a recurring right wing theme to justify continuing Jim Crow era voter suppression.So we have to mailout ballots to who knows who with no way to verify the ballots are being filled out by the persons receiving them in order to make it appear that Jim Crow is over with? That's an insane idea. Jim Crow died and was buried decades ago. It's the pretense that some people are unable to get off their butts and go vote like they go and buy groceries, shoes, liquor, books, prescriptions, and many other items that is insanity.

So we have to mailout ballots to who knows who with no way to verify the ballots are being filled out by the persons receiving them in order to make it appear that Jim Crow is over with? That's an insane idea. Jim Crow died and was buried decades ago. It's the pretense that some people are unable to get off their butts and go vote like they go and buy groceries, shoes, liquor, books, prescriptions, and many other items that is insanity.
And if they have to drive across the county to the only polling place (because the closer ones were closed) and wait in line for eight hours or more, that's okay? And what if they don't own a car or truck or even a motorcycle?

So we have to mailout ballots to who knows who with no way to verify the ballots are being filled out by the persons receiving them in order to make it appear that Jim Crow is over with? That's an insane idea. Jim Crow died and was buried decades ago. It's the pretense that some people are unable to get off their butts and go vote like they go and buy groceries, shoes, liquor, books, prescriptions, and many other items that is insanity.

None of those things takes hours, and white people have been voting mail in for decades, especially repubs, now minorities are lazy because they want to do it with the same ease? Now it's a fraud, and insane?

Even repub elected officials found no evidence of voter fraud and NEVER have so your whole statement is stupid and insane and a complete lie and sham. 60 court cases and a SCOTUS ruling and still you squawk.

Squawk on dufusite. you got life and BS all mixed up.

None of those things takes hours, and white people have been voting mail in for decades, especially repubs, now minorities are lazy because they want to do it with the same ease? Now it's a fraud, and insane?No one mentioned race but you. If voting takes hours, then that should be remedied, but I doubt that is widespread, and I doubt even more that it is race based in any way.

Requested mail in ballots are a completely different animal from unrequested mail in ballots. One is secure while the other is not. I guess insecure voting is, to you, a fine thing.


Even repub elected officials found no evidence of voter fraud and NEVER have so your whole statement is stupid and insane and a complete lie and sham. 60 court cases and a SCOTUS ruling and still you squawk.

Squawk on dufusite. you got life and BS all mixed up.Thank you for that well-reasoned response.

No one mentioned race but you. If voting takes hours, then that should be remedied, but I doubt that is widespread, and I doubt even more that it is race based in any way.
You didn't see those photos and videos of long lines of poc, patiently standing in line for hours -- all day and even after dark?

"The lines are long, but Black voters are demonstrating their will to vote.In Texas, Georgia, Virginia, North Carolina, and Indiana, African Americans’ resiliency and resolve have never been as severely tested.
They have gone to great lengths to overcome voter suppression, discouragement, misinformation, gerrymandering, and so many other obstacles to participate in America’s elections."
https://www.insightnews.com/news/national/voter-suppression-tactics-and-long-lines-fail-to-quell-resolve-of-black-voters/article_a08676d6-1921-11eb-a4d7-8f82db2e8e3b.html

white people have been voting mail in for decades, especially repubs, This is true . It is called absentee ballots . You have to request them and your identity verified before receiving them . Then they ONLY get counted in close elections .

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.”

(2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by Jimmy Carter and James Baker ).


They also called on states to increase voter ID requirements(REAL ID should cover that ....sometime next year people will be required to have them for many uses like driving ,air travel ,passports ,getting into Federal facilites ); to halt ballot harvesting; to maintain voter lists; to allow election observers to monitor ballot counting; to make sure voting machines are working properly and to have a paper audit trail for every vote the machines tabulated . They also called on the media to refrain from calling elections early based on exit polls .
Building Confidence in U.S. Elections (legislationline.org) (https://www.legislationline.org/download/id/1472/file/3b50795b2d0374cbef5c29766256.pdf)


Kay C. James, a commission member said :

"So many of the problems we’re now hearing about in the aftermath of the 2020 election could have been avoided had states heeded the advice of the Commission on Federal Election Reform,”......Simple protections against fraud, like voter ID and updated voter registration lists, make perfect sense if we truly believe that every vote must count. Election officials should take another look at the commission’s recommendations and make sure they’re doing everything possible to protect the integrity of our elections.

This is true . It is called absentee ballots . You have to request them and your identity verified before receiving them . Then they ONLY get counted in close elections .

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.”

Tomder, for all your blather, Trump's own administration called the election the safest and most secure in the history of US elections.The head of CISA Chris Krebs who made this statement was promptly fired by Trump. Give it up and stop acting like the nutcase in the WH.

What was he doing as Director CISA while the Ruskies were hacking ?

Trump's own administration called the election the safest and most secure in the history of US elections
A statement by one person amounts to, "Trump's own administration"???

It seems unfortunate that there are so many people who believe that minorities are either too simple-minded or too lazy to get a voter ID (which most people already have) and go to a polling place to vote. To them, only white people can figure out such a fantastically difficult and complicated process, so for them, requiring those things amounts to some form of systemic racism. It actually amounts to a subtle and yet substantial prejudice against minorities in suggesting they cannot do what everyone else seems perfectly capable of doing. It illustrates "the bigotry of low expectations."

What was he doing as Director CISA while the Ruskies were hacking ?

He was doing his job. Whether he knew or didn't know about Russian hacking is irrelevant to what he knew about the election. Various sources, including IBM, said the election was not hacked by the espionage hack. It's also possible Krebs knew but did not publicly reveal what he knew re the hack.

A statement by one person amounts to, "Trump's own administration"???

Does it matter the dufus LOST. Accept it.


It seems unfortunate that there are so many people who believe that minorities are either too simple-minded or too lazy to get a voter ID (which most people already have) and go to a polling place to vote. To them, only white people can figure out such a fantastically difficult and complicated process, so for them, requiring those things amounts to some form of systemic racism. It actually amounts to a subtle and yet substantial prejudice against minorities in suggesting they cannot do what everyone else seems perfectly capable of doing. It illustrates "the bigotry of low expectations."

Black voters obviously met the standard in their states to register and vote despite the shenanigans, so your disgusting assessment is a deluded fringe loony lie. I mean do voters standing in long lines sound lazy to you? It seems the subtle prejudice against minorities is YOURS and obviously blatant and unfounded at that.

Black voters obviously met the standard in their states to register and voteWonderful. Kind of makes your argument weak, don't you think?


so your disgusting assessment is a deluded fringe loony lie.You sure are thin skinned.


I mean do voters standing in long lines sound lazy to you? It seems the subtle prejudice against minorities is YOURS and obviously blatant and unfounded at that.You need to learn to read. I did not say anyone was lazy. I have no doubt that anyone in this country who is willing to trouble him/her self can register and vote. You are the one who doubts that they are willing to put out the effort to do it. "The soft bigotry of low expectations."

Sorry we voted the dufus out. I know it hurt you deeply. You loony fringers have my sincere condolences for your loss. Look at the bright side. The dark stank of the dufus a$$ can be replaced by sunshine and flowers if you so choose. If you need help extricating yourself don't hesitate to ask.

It can't be easy after years of delusion and lunacy, but I'm here for you!

Sorry we voted the dufus out. I know it hurt you deeply. You loony fringers have my sincere condolences for your loss. Look at the bright side. The dark stank of the dufus a$$ can be replaced by sunshine and flowers if you so choose. If you need help extricating yourself don't hesitate to ask.Honestly, I'm tired of your constant references to men's asxes. I have enjoyed many of our exchanges, but that makes you appear to be an ignorant, vulgar little man who can come up nothing intelligent to say and is afraid of any kind of honest discussion. If that is the case with you, then find someone with similar interests in men's rear ends to exchange with. That sick train of thought is not something I am familiar with. If you want to continue it, count me out.

Obviously you are in denial of where your head is stuck at. That's okay. I understand your helpless frustration. If you stop kicking so wildly I can grab your ankles and pull you free.

Just trying to help my loony fringe brother get some fresh air.

Could you turn your head a bit to the left so your nose can clear the dufus hemorrhoids'?

Thankfully, there is a "block" choice on this site to eliminate cowardly, ignorant, vulgar little men who can come up with nothing intelligent to say and are afraid of honest discussion. Boom. It's a shame, but it's time. I'll miss our discussions, but there must be some level of civility, so enough.

@JL

Well you could just simply deny my observation of where your head is at, but if blocking me makes you feel better then go for it.

Makes no difference to me where you run...you can't hide. Or you could just stop throwing rocks yourself, up to you what you do.

Obviously you are in denial of where your head is stuck at. That's okay. I understand your helpless frustration. If you stop kicking so wildly I can grab your ankles and pull you free.

Just trying to help my loony fringe brother get some fresh air.

Could you turn your head a bit to the left so your nose can clear the dufus hemorrhoids'?


I had to laugh at this. Gross, but you painted a picture hard to get rid of. Still laughing.

I had to laugh at this. Gross, but you painted a picture hard to get rid of. Still laughing.Unsurprisingly, it would attract you.

It's a dirty job Athos, confronting an insulting bully, but somebody has to do it.

It's a dirty job Athos, confronting an insulting bully, but somebody has to do it.

And with humor! Nice work.

Thankfully, there is a "block" choice on this site to eliminate cowardly, ignorant, vulgar little men who can come up with nothing intelligent to say and are afraid of honest discussion. Boom. It's a shame, but it's time. I'll miss our discussions, but there must be some level of civility, so enough.

why are you still here

Same reason you're still here.

Insomnia?

Insomnia?A few times in the past, but not today.

Here are the purveyors of unity at work. "President-elect Joe Biden's incoming deputy chief of staff called GOP lawmakers are "a bunch of f---ers" and said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is "terrible," but expressed optimism that the new administration could still work with Republicans to pass legislation."

Can you imagine the uproar if a republican had said such a thing? The three libs on this board would have gone ballistic. Does she represent the new dufuses??? Talk about living in a fantasy world. Good grief.


(https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-world-reacts-to-aqib-talib-s-performance-on-tv/ar-BB1c5EzP)https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-campaign-manager-calls-gop-lawmakers-a-bunch-of-f-ers/ar-BB1bYJd5

Can you imagine the uproar if a republican had said such a thing? The three libs on this board would have gone ballistic.
If you're referring to me, naw, I'm used to the repubs hateful thoughts and foul language and messed up suggestions. More of that was poured over us this weekend.

So it’s ok? I see.

Hard to get excited over a dem statement when 4 years of repub statements have gone unanswered by repubs.

YAWN! If yours were okay why isn't ours?

https://scontent.fmem1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/132542128_10219451615983013_4500322114323991910_n. jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=PlDSjbUXkkEAX_nOEZ_&_nc_ht=scontent.fmem1-2.fna&oh=e2aedeb2c702eae1ef1c70363a2f1015&oe=60083FEF

Another record for the Trump economy. "US economy grows at record 33.4% pace in rally from coronavirus lows."
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/us-economy-gross-domestic-product-record

and it's all down to Trump

Presidents get blame, and presidents get credit. It's how it works.

Great for the investor class but ordinary folks not so much.

America's poverty rising at fastest rate ever | TheHill (https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/poverty/530702-americas-poverty-rising-at-fastest-rate-ever-with-almost-8)

US poverty, hunger and unemployment rise as Congress nears aid deal - CNNPolitics (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/18/politics/pandemic-america-poverty-unemployment/index.html)

Unemployment claims: 885,000 people filed for first-time benefits last week - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/17/economy/unemployment-benefits-coronavirus/index.html)

Poverty is rising, now I wonder what could have caused that? Oh, could it be that a virus caused it, we have at last found a reason for poverty. Many think it is a lack of government largess, other think it is caused by laziness, some are sure it is because of hoarding, still more think taxes are to blame. Me, I think politicians are the reason. If we shot all the politicians before they had an opportunity to cause poverty, the epidemic would be over

can't imagine why unemployment is rising as politician prevent more and more businesses from operating .

There is not much imagination in any of this Tom, it is all reactionary