This is a must read. It's short and reveals the election day plans by Trump and his cronies. Is this the America you want? Note how Trump's inner circle skates around the charges.

https://www.axios.com/trump-claim-election-victory-ballots-97eb12b9-5e35-402f-9ea3-0ccfb47f613f.html

Trump Wins; He crows about it for months on end
Trump Loses; He declares it a corrupt election and forces matters to drag through the courts...

What happens on Tuesday night if Biden is declared the winner? Will all those ballots sitting in post offices or drop boxes have to be gathered up and counted (over the next two weeks) with the hope Trump will come out on top after all?

Trump Wins; He crows about it for months on end
Trump Loses; He declares it a corrupt election and forces matters to drag through the courts...

If only it were that simple. Suggest you read the article in the link.

PS - Do you respond to internal messages? I have one to you from several days ago re DixieChick66 lack of profile- no response.

PS - Do you respond to internal messages? I have one to you from several days ago re DixieChick66 lack of profile- no response.
Sometimes, but check again ;)

Sometimes, but check again ;)

I checked, still nothing. I'll post it here to make it easier for you.

Trying to access the profile of DixieChick66, I get a message saying I can't do it. I'm curious why that member's profile is not accessible.

Thanks, Athos.

(sent October 21)

I checked, still nothing. I'll post it here to make it easier for you.

Trying to access the profile of DixieChick66, I get a message saying I can't do it. I'm curious why that member's profile is not accessible.

Thanks, Athos.

(sent October 21)
I checked the profile of new member, Letilou, yesterday. Nada. If I remember correctly, the new member has to post X number of times before a profile appears -- and, of course, that new member can then add personal information to that profile.

I checked the profile of new member, Letilou, yesterday. Nada. If I remember correctly, the new member has to post X number of times before a profile appears -- and, of course, that new member can then add personal information to that profile.

The profile is now accessible. There are NO more posts than there were when I first inquired. Hmmmmm.

Maybe fresh air opened it.

The profile is now accessible. There are NO more posts than there were when I first inquired. Hmmmmm.

Maybe fresh air opened it.
Maybe then a number of days have to pass before the profile is available/visible.

Maybe then a number of days have to pass before the profile is available/visible.

I don't think so.

I contacted another member here over a month ago and that member tried to contact a moderator on this issue - no success.

Here is the message I got when attempting to access Dixie profile :


Athos, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:



If you are trying to post, you probably have not activated your account by clicking the link in the email we sent to you. Remember, the email may be in your bulk email folder.
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post or access administrative features or some other privileged system?

Note there is no mention of X number of days before allowing access to a profile.

All new members are placed on moderation until they have posted a number of times.

Frightening Election Day Prognosis by Trump Camp
This is a must read. It's short and reveals the election day plans by Trump and his cronies. Is this the America you want? Note how Trump's inner circle skates around the charges.

https://www.axios.com/trump-claim-el...fb47f613f.html (https://www.axios.com/trump-claim-election-victory-ballots-97eb12b9-5e35-402f-9ea3-0ccfb47f613f.html)




If he has a commanding lead in key battleground states like Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Texas, Iowa, Arizona, Georgia then he would be right no matter how long it took to count the ballots .

If he has a commanding lead in key battleground states like Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Texas, Iowa, Arizona, Georgia then he would be right no matter how long it took to count the ballots .


Gotta love the collegiate voting system, the only one where a persons vote really doesn't matter.
Lose the popular vote, yet still get elected....

TBH, all voting systems have their downsides, but none as big as the electoral college system

If he has a commanding lead in key battleground states like Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Texas, Iowa, Arizona, Georgia then he would be right no matter how long it took to count the ballots

That's not what the article said.

All new members are placed on moderation until they have posted a number of times.

Thank you for that info.

I think it should be included in the auto-message I quoted above and which I received when inquiring. In any case, it seems rather vague - how many times?

Thank you for that info.

I think it should be included in the auto-message I quoted above and which I received when inquiring. In any case, it seems rather vague - how many times?

As it's part of the measures we have in place to curtail spammer/scammer activity I can't give you an exact number.

Gotta love the collegiate voting system, the only one where a persons vote really doesn't matter.
Lose the popular vote, yet still get elected....

TBH, all voting systems have their downsides, but none as big as the electoral college system

as opposed to candidates only being concerned with the issues important to the costal elite cities . The new presidential campaign trail would heavily feature New York, California, ,the DC area ,Texas, and Florida, which combined account for 58.5 million registered voters The other states would be "fly over " neglected states , and the federal benefits they enjoy would likely disappear as well. WE were not designed to be a popular democracy .Even when it was 13 states the interests of regions had to be considered to create a union. A popular voting system would destroy that basic framework.
We will see how popular voting democracy works in a republic . I don't know what turnout will be this cycle . But most often it hovers around 50-60 % and even less in non-presidential years . But the popular vote will not change that . Turnout should be higher in swing states like Florida . But even with campaigns concentrating their efforts there ,Florida only had about 65% turnout in 2016. So even when a candidate gets a majority vote it does not represent the majority will of the people .

And how does one rationalize a winner take all system when the popular vote comes down to a percentage or 2 or slightly more even in blow out elections ? Maybe we should go back to the days of the 1800 election when the 2nd place candidate took the VP ?

Without the EC the 2 party system would collapse .It would be replaced with the people voting on a ballot of extreme fringe candidates all vying for pluralities instead of majorities or near majorities . Imagine the leader of the country being selected by 25-30 % of the popular vote or less . That would happen in a popular vote system .So your theory of win the popular vote win the election falls flat .
We elect a President ,not a Parliament that had to build ruling coalitions after a vote . The 2 party system at least moderates both parties . To get something done requires compromise

It is not perfect . But we were never promised perfect . Our mission statement is to form a more perfect union. That cannot happen unless all the people's issues are considered .

All the peoples issues cannot be considered unless they all participate. 97 million early votes is encouraging, if they all count.

We may never be perfect but must strive to be and no doubt we could stand some tweaks and upgrades to the system.

That is the beauty of the amendment process. We don't use it enough .And I'm not talking about the method normally used . That is slow and arduous.

That is the beauty of the amendment process. We don't use it enough .And I'm not talking about the method normally used . That is slow and arduous.

You forgot the bloody brutal struggle that continues to this day just for voting rights. Slow and arduous is an understatement given the shenanigans and opposition.

Today when I voted I thanked poll watchers from both parties for their patriotic service . I trust the results from my district because of their dedication .

What was really encouraging was that for the 1st time I can remember . Both poll watchers were younger than me . I don't think that was a reflection of my age as much as a increase in the concept of civic duty amongst the younger generations .

Today when I voted I thanked poll watchers from both parties for their patriotic service . I trust the results from my district because of their dedication .

They deserved it if they were as friendly courteous and helpful as the ones I countered.


What was really encouraging was that for the 1st time I can remember . Both poll watchers were younger than me . I don't think that was a reflection of my age as much as a increase in the concept of civic duty amongst the younger generations .

Everybody looks younger to you Tom (me too!), because they are you old coot. 8D I'll be honest as I have seen the youngsters show me a lot of respect for my age the last few years.

4 years ago it was my geezer peers doing the poll watching . Yesterday they did a detailed examination of my signature instead of a quick glance . They noted my signature had slightly changed . I told them the problem was that in the past I used a pen and not a stylus .

One thing that has to be agreed upon is that this is the 2nd election that the polling organizations got hopelessly wrong . Latest example ..
Susan Collins has won the Maine Senate race.Collins did not lead a single poll the entire cycle, and trailed by 5.5 in the Real Clear Politics average in the final two months of the campaign.

Appears Mitch will keep the senate gavel at this point.

Collins has a lot of leverage and has often crossed the aisle . She has another 6 years ;will probably not run again after serving for 30 years ,

She and other repubs have a somewhat good rep among both sides, but everybody has to toe the party line in recent years. Partisanship and gridlock combined with tribalism doesn't solve problems and no where is that more apparent than our response to this economy destroying virus. 90,000 new cases in one day?

the virus is in it's 2nd circumnavigation of the planet . It is what it is . What would be economy destroying is the Quid prescription of hunkering down and not living our lives . Quid must've built an alter to the virus. It gave him his ONLY campaign issue.

Ha! Sickness and death gets attention of all the Earth. So did the dufus not dealing with it properly. Everybody has to adjust to it AGAIN!

You can explain how living your life when you're sick or dead is a good thing any time you want.

the virus is in it's 2nd circumnavigation of the planet . It is what it is . What would be economy destroying is the Quid prescription of hunkering down and not living our lives . Quid must've built an alter to the virus. It gave him his ONLY campaign issue.
Thats northern hemisphere like AGW/ CV19 is a northern hemisphere problem now the big question are they linked does paranoia grow and grow

Grover Cleveland Trump .... 2024

Trump will move on, he will be too old in 2024 besides we don't know what the issues will be then, they will not be what they are today

Grover Cleveland Trump .... 2024

You're drifting, tomder. Time to wake up and return to reality.

Trump is done. He will be a joke for the rest of his life. The president who was impeached and could not get anywhere near his campaign promises - his promise to have Mexico pay for the wall, his promise to eliminate Obamacare, and his promise to "drain the swamp". The Trump swamp dwarfs whatever swamp was there when he took office.

The damage he did to the country will soon be rectified by Biden-Harris. Pay attention.

The damage he did to the country will soon be rectified by Biden-Harris. Pay attention.

No america will be dragged into socialism, Biden will be a pawn to the Harris agenda

No america will be dragged into socialism, Biden will be a pawn to the Harris agenda
What is your definition of socialism?

What is your definition of socialism?

Universal free health care, shutdowns and mask wearing mandatory, mandatory CV19 testing and isolation, climate change programs, welfare programs instead of boosting employment, housing schemes, public transport, massive increase in public service and regulation, free tertiary education, the list is endless

Well we got rid of the lying cheating stealing bullying dufus, but the right wing loony noise machine is still alive and well still.

Universal free health care, shutdowns and mask wearing mandatory, mandatory CV19 testing and isolation, climate change programs, welfare programs instead of boosting employment, housing schemes, public transport, massive increase in public service and regulation, free tertiary education, the list is endless

At least you named what was asked, unlike your fellow anti-socialists here who did a lot less than you did. Now, WHY are these things "socialism"?

What's wrong with free health care? Don't you want people to be healthy and cared for when sick? Shutdowns as necessary and mask wearing mandatory during a crisis is not acceptable? Why not?

Climate change programs, public transport, etc., - WHY are these programs not acceptable to you? Welfare programs don't REPLACE unemployment, they are in addition to it. Doesn't free tertiary education in state schools improve the society? Why are you against that?

I hope you can reply in detail.

At least you named what was asked, unlike your fellow anti-socialists here who did a lot less than you did. Now, WHY are these things "socialism"?

What's wrong with free health care? Don't you want people to be healthy and cared for when sick? Shutdowns as necessary and mask wearing mandatory during a crisis is not acceptable? Why not?

Climate change programs, public transport, etc., - WHY are these programs not acceptable to you? Welfare programs don't REPLACE unemployment, they are in addition to it. Doesn't free tertiary education is state schools improve the society? Why are you against that?

I hope you can reply in detail.
I did not say they are unacceptable but it depends on how you implement them, your last attempt at health care was a farce, not socialist, but capitalist advantaging big business. Putting government money into that farce called climate change is just another way of advantaging big business. You have welfare programs without addressing minimum livable wages just subsidising big business. True socialism would nationalise those big businesses. By all means have free tertiary education, free secondary education, free elementary education but don't spend the money on useless liberal oriented courses. I know about shutdowns, they were successfully implemented here and we are down to zero community infection but it took real leadership curtailing individual freedoms, not popular and killed many small businesses. I can't see it happening there

Thank you for the reply. It was most enlightening.

I see that when you disagree with something, you call it "socialism" even thought it has nothing to do with socialism. You should ask yourself why you do that.

For example:


I did not say they are unacceptable but it depends on how you implement them,

As indicated above, your objection is NOT due to socialism, but how they are implemented.


your last attempt at health care was a farce, not socialist, but capitalist advantaging big business.

So it is not socialism, but capitalism. That's quite a difference from your anti-socialist platform, wouldn't you say?


Putting government money into that farce called climate change is just another way of advantaging big business.

Another vote against CAPITALISM, not socialism!


You have welfare programs without addressing minimum livable wages just subsidising big business.

Agreed that welfare, as you indicate, should be MORE socialistic, and less a big business subsidy, aka Capitalism.


True socialism would nationalise those big businesses.

Of course, therefore none of the programs at issue here are socialism since no big businesses are nationalized.


By all means have free tertiary education, free secondary education, free elementary education but don't spend the money on useless liberal oriented courses.

Yet another non-socialist position, just one disagreeing with the education curriculum.


I know about shutdowns, they were successfully implemented here and we are down to zero community infection but it took real leadership curtailing individual freedoms, not popular and killed many small businesses.

Amazing! Every single thing you wrote here in reply has everything to do with Capitalism, and nothing to do with socialism.


I can't see it happening there

Wait a bit. What you want will begin to happen with Biden in two months.

The thing about labels is they are seldom accurate.

The thing about labels is they are seldom accurate.

Especially when people have no clue what they mean.

I have lived under more socialistic programs than you have so I know about socialism. We are not Sweden but what socialism does is tax the population to implement measures which may or may not be an advantage to the population and in the process some freedoms are curtailed. Every few years we elect a government with serious socialistic leanings but we grow tired of them quickly but they have given us universal health care, a water management plan which has strangled irrigation and many small towns, a carbon trading scheme which had to be dismantled, a tax on mining that didn't raise revenue, a disability scheme that soaks up money like a sponge.

I expect that Biden/Harris will lose their lustre quickly

I expect that Biden/Harris will lose their lustre quicklyPrep for a repub Congress in 2022.

Yes you could hope for change, your house has been very obstructionist

I have lived under more socialistic programs than you have so I know about socialism.

Apparently, you don't (know more about socialism). That's based on your previous answer where you showed a remarkable lack of understanding as to what socialism is.


We are not Sweden but what socialism does is tax the population to implement measures which may or may not be an advantage to the population and in the process some freedoms are curtailed.

All government systems can be responsible for those things, not just socialism.


Every few years we elect a government with serious socialistic leanings but we grow tired of them quickly but they have given us universal health care

What is wrong with your health care?


(and) a water management plan which has strangled irrigation and many small towns, a carbon trading scheme which had to be dismantled, a tax on mining that didn't raise revenue, a disability scheme that soaks up money like a sponge.

None of these measures are exclusively defined as socialism.

Apparently, you don't (know more about socialism). That's based on your previous answer where you showed a remarkable lack of understanding as to what socialism is.



All government systems can be responsible for those things, not just socialism.



What is wrong with your health care?



None of these measures are exclusively defined as socialism.

You just like to argue, socialism is a very broad church, from died in the wool communism right across the spectrum to nazism, from the total nanny state to something like China today, a controlled economy.

Yes we have universal health care which operates alongside of a private health care system. It is a system in which the insurers don't get rich and the poor people wait in line. Every socialistic scheme implemented here is just crud, and that is what I think of socialism so argue all you like

Turns out Trump was right about having a vaccine ready by the end of the year.

You just like to argue,

Only to correct misinformation.


Yes we have universal health care which operates alongside of a private health care system.

I take it this means you approve of the socialist program called universal health care when it is accompanied by a private health care system.


Every socialistic scheme implemented here is just crud, and that is what I think of socialism so argue all you like

You're pretty short on facts. You just think whatever you don't like is "crud". That's fine, but don't fool yourself into thinking you're making some kind of argument against socialism.

In fact, you seem more anti-capitalism than anything else.

The whole right wing conservative definition is NUTS, and more about political smears than functional fiscal policy. I get the agenda to shrink government and privatize every "business" under the sun, but without clear regulations to govern such a policy then it's just unbridled capitalism and shift all power to a plutocracy run by oligarchs.

Supply side economics on steroids or involuntary slavery of the masses.

The whole right wing conservative definition is NUTSDefinition of what?

Socialism was the topic, but we can include communism for the sake of discussion.

I still don't get you. You are complaining about a right wing definition of, I suppose, socialism, but I still don't know what you think that definition is.

socialism ~ government intervention and regulation, government funded projects, taxation to fund government initiatives. This is what capitalism calls socialism

Sounds like a logical common sense approach to governance to me so just because capitalists say these things are bad are they truly, since every government including mine and yours does those very things as a matter of course.

socialism ~ government intervention and regulation, government funded projects, taxation to fund government initiatives. This is what capitalism calls socialism

Like the US Marines, roads and bridges, government outlawing child labor, unemployment insurance, a 40 hour work week, paid holidays, and on and on - all socialism according to your definition. Thank God for socialism.

It would seem that a healthy balance of policy would be ideal, given the human ability to get carried away.

It would seem that a healthy balance of policy would be ideal, given the human ability to get carried away.

Problem with socialism is that the anti-socialism crowd here doesn't have a clue what socialism is other than what they've learned as platitudes that disses the idea without any explanation other than to say "bunch a commies".

We have yet to have a coherent picture of socialism in the USA. Of the three supporters here, one couldn't answer out of fear he would be challenged, another never followed up with details after the usual platitudes, and the third is just wacky and confused.

Problem with socialism is that the anti-socialism crowd here doesn't have a clue what socialism is other than what they've learned as platitudes that disses the idea without any explanation other than to say "bunch a commies".

We have yet to have a coherent picture of socialism in the USA. Of the three supporters here, one couldn't answer out of fear he would be challenged, another never followed up with details after the usual platitudes, and the third is just wacky and confused.


coherent picture No you have a very confused picture. Don't include me among your supporters of socialism but don't include me among your supporters of capitalism. Unbridled socialism is bad as the USSR and Germany proved in the last century and China proves today but also unbridled capitalism is bad too because it is exploitative as you see today. You see everything through the prism of the USA, but there is a distorted picture, like a Picasso painting. Socialism falls down because its programs must be supported with taxation or large scale borrowings

Any governing system is subject to fail because of the humans that administer it. Don't blame the tool, blame the humans that use it.

Any governing system is subject to fail because of the humans that administer it. Don't blame the tool, blame the humans that use it.Are you suggesting that the type of government or economy a nation has makes no difference?

Are you suggesting that the type of government or economy a nation has makes no difference?

It doesn't stop failure. Even the most democratic of nations have failed in various ways, few totalitarian governments last, empires fail

Unbridled socialism is bad ................ but also unbridled capitalism is bad too

If you're changing the subject to UNBRIDLED socialism/capitalism, you'll get no argument from me. Would have saved time for you to have said that in the first place.


Socialism falls down because its programs must be supported with taxation or large scale borrowings

ALL programs are supported by taxation or large-scale borrowings. In fact, without taxation/borrowing, no programs are possible.

You are a strange fellow, unable to see any point of view but your own

In fact, without taxation/borrowing, no programs are possible.It's laughable to suggest that programs are not possible without borrowing. Yet another false claim that encourages the runaway borrowing we are staring in the face.

Whatever you do, don't ask that famous democrat, AOC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aer3mvlLVZw

Simple description of capitalism. An economic system in which large or small business owners, unfettered by excessive government regulations, profit from benefitting the lives of others. If a business does not benefit the lives of others, then their products will stop selling and they go out of business.

You are a strange fellow, unable to see any point of view but your own

Feel free to tell me what point of view I have been unable to see. Seeing is not always believing, but I'll be happy to read what you have to say.

Whatever you do, don't ask that famous democrat, AOC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aer3mvlLVZw

Simple description of capitalism. An economic system in which large or small business owners, unfettered by excessive government regulations, profit from benefitting the lives of others. If a business does not benefit the lives of others, then their products will stop selling and they go out of business.

We probably disagree on what's excessive, but I sure don't buy whole hog what a CEO is marketing.

We probably disagree on what's excessive.Generally speaking, if a business is making excessive profits, then another business will come in with lower price. Happens all the time. Just check out Walmart and see for yourself.

I specifically mentioned excessive as in government regulations and not profits or the business model.

I specifically mentioned excessive as in government regulationsNo, you didn't. You simply said, "We probably disagree on what's excessive." You were far from specific.

You started this with excessive government regulation so why go off the rails about my response?

It's all good. I was not aware I had gone "off the rails" in any way.

I know, but that's what friends are for. 8D

It's all good. I was not aware I had gone "off the rails" in any way.

Oh you run on a different track, that's certain

Oh you run on a different track, that's certainI sincerely hope so.

As long as you stay in your lane it's all good.

but he doesn't, does he?

That's why I honk my horn! 8D

"but he doesn't, does he?" Yeah. Right.

You admit it?

I admit that your post makes no sense. Learn to recognize sarcasm.

no I just recognise B/S

no I just recognise B/SNot surprising.

No watching you is instructive

No watching you is instructiveSadly, for you it is not. Shame.

Thank goodness they took all of this "vote-counting" stuff really seriously. Should give us all great confidence.

"Georgia recount unearths more than 2,600 uncounted ballots in Floyd County:"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2600-uncounted-ballots-found-recount-efforts-georgia

Sounds like incompetence, that is the kindest thing that can be said

Sounds like incompetence, that is the kindest thing that can be saidExactly correct.

An incompetent repub administration? No way.

The incompetence is in the failure to count votes correctly.

An area of genuine concern is the area of polling. Biden was said to be leading by 8 to 12 points, but he ended up ahead by a little over 3 points. Lindsey Graham's race was said to be neck and neck, but he won by ten points. There is plainly a lot of bias at work in these polling organizations, and it would be good to see that rooted out. All of the anti-lying zealots on this site will no doubt agree and come out against this outrage. Right?

Have the ballots from the military been counted yet?

Polling is not an exact science so why get hyped up over it, and the only polling that counts is the actual vote.

Polling is not an exact science so why get hyped up over it, and the only polling that counts is the actual vote.But isn't it strange how this inexact science of polling only errs on the side of helping democrats? How strange.

But isn't it strange how this inexact science of polling only errs on the side of helping democrats? How strange.





Strangely enough, four years ago in 2016, it helped Republicans.

Strangely enough it didn't help the dems this cycle either as you pointed out.

Of course it did. The opponent of Graham in SC was able to raise 100 mil on the fake claim that he was close in the polls. He lost by ten points. I wonder how many Trump supporters did not go vote because it seemed hopeless? You have to wonder why it is happening and why it always leans dem.

Inquiring minds like yours are best in the checkout line at grocery stores for answers.

Inquiring minds

but he doesn't have an inquiring mind

I would rather have an inquiring mind than a closed one.


but he doesn't have an inquiring mindSuch bitterness. Shame.

I would rather have an inquiring mind than a closed one.

Such bitterness. Shame.

not bitter, just observing

Nah. Bitter.

Nah I wish you well afterall it is the forthcoming season of joy, but it doesn't mean I agree with you

Nah I wish you well afterall it is the forthcoming season of joy, but it doesn't mean I agree with youNah. It's the bleating of a guilty sheep. Disagreement is fine. It's the basis of discussion, and I don't criticize others for disagreeing, but the incessant questioning of character and motive by you is just bitterness on display. Either that, or you are one ever more angry man.

In the meantime, "Ga. election audit turns up 3,039 more uncounted ballots, in addition to 2,600 previously untallied votes (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-election-audit-uncounted-ballots-two-counties)"
How are we supposed to have confidence in a process where thousands and thousands of votes are simply not counted?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-election-audit-uncounted-ballots-two-counties

Keep counting, let me know when you're done and be aware the process and procedure is working. The middle of December is the official deadline to wrap this up. What you didn't know?

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-electoral-college-works-timeline-2020-8



On November 6, Insider and Decision Desk HQ projected that now President-elect Joe Biden had won the Electoral College and defeated President Trump.
But the results won't be official until every state fully canvasses and certifies its president election results, which occurs on a different timeline in every state.
After certification, the slate of presidential electors selected by every state's voters will gather and cast their votes in each state and the District of Columbia on December 14 in 2020.
In most previous years, TV networks and outlets like the Associated Press have been able to call the winner on election night based on the available results and projections from data like exit polls.

But importantly, the results of any election are never finalized on election night. In every US state, state laws explicitly allocate multiple days or weeks (https://www.nass.org/sites/default/files/surveys/2020-10/summary-canvass-recount-laws-100220.pdf) for officials to fully canvass and then certify the results, a process that is now occurring in states around the country.

You act like this is your first rodeo.

Yeah. 6,000 uncounted votes so far, but who cares? Certainly not Tal.

They'll either be counted if legal, or discounted if not. Happens every two years dude!

It does? How do you know that? How would we know now if Trump had not raised the point?

Happens EVERY election cycle for as long as I can remember. Why are you letting the dufus play on your ignorance?

Oh? You have data for that? And if it does happen every two years, then why are you so willing to put up with it? Shouldn't we do something?

That's why every state/county/city has a procedure in place to deal with such cases. You've never been involved in any elections on any level? All the rules and regs are online for virtually all the jurisdictions and let's face it everybody saw this coming and prepared for it.

So you don't have data, just as I figured, and yet I'm the one who's ignorant? If "everybody saw this coming and prepared for it," then they sure did a lousy job of it. 6 thousand votes just left uncounted, and no doubt many more to come, but they saw it coming and prepared for it? Hmm.

They found the votes and have a process and procedure to deal with them. It's happened before, and may again. The data has yet to be released pending an audit. They always have an audit after county certification. It's part of the canvasing process in Michigan. Every state has a similar process.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/08/michigan-supreme-court-asked-to-reconsider-absentee-ballot-deadline-in-light-of-uncounted-primary-votes.html

Maybe you missed that link I provided previously.

Do you realize your link is from August?


They found the votes and have a process and procedure to deal with them.Do you really not understand that those thousands of votes in Georgia would never have been found without this recount?

All the rules and regs are online for virtually all the jurisdictions and let's face it everybody saw this coming and prepared for it.
If that is the case ;and article 2 of the constitution makes it the purview of the state legislatures to set the rules governing Presidential elections ;then why in state after state did governors and state judiciaries change the rules weeks ,days and in the middle of the elections in some cases ? For the Dems the rules are an inconvenience to be complied with when it suits their purpose .

Got examples I can fact check?


Do you realize your link is from August?

Yes just to illustrate the progression of the law making. DUH!


Do you really not understand that those thousands of votes in Georgia would never have been found without this recount?

Your catching on keep going.

Yes just to illustrate the progression of the law making. DUH!
Yeah. I'm sure that's what it was.

In the meantime, the hits just keep on coming.

"2 men charged in voter fraud involving 8,000 ballot applications for 'fictitious' or dead voters"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-men-charged-8000-ballot-applications

Texas mayoral candidate arrested for mail-in ballot fraud


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-mayoral-candidate-arrested-for-mail-in-ballot-fraud

Yeah. I'm sure that's what it was.

Rest assured it was.