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Athos
Oct 16, 2020, 03:02 AM
Trump claimed that 85% of people who wear masks get the COVID-19 virus. No, that's not a misprint. In fact he said it twice, in addition to saying it earlier in the day at a rally.
Trump, the self-proclaimed genius, is too dumb to figure out the math. If 85% of the mask-wearing population were infected with COVID-19, that would equate to many millions more cases than the present figure of 8 million.
Asked about QANON, the conspiracy theory that claims the Democrats are pedophiles who kidnap children, kill them, and drink their blood, Trump's response was "They're against pedophilia. I agree with that".
Lies about his health plan being better than Obamacare (he has no plan). Asked about the $400+ million he owes and is due in the next few years jeopardizing his national security, he inadvertently admitted the truth of the debt by claiming it was "tiny' compared to the assets of his organization. Whoops.
When he wasn't talking over Savannah Guthrie and interrupting her, he was basking in the glow of invited Republican sycophants adoring him. Creepy.
A typical Trump performance filled with innuendo, outright lies, and half-truths - the New York street con man at his most hustling.
tomder55
Oct 16, 2020, 03:53 AM
As I suspected ;people were watching the Trump town hall and not Quid's
Quid the super spreader
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/person-flown-biden-tests-positive-covid-19/story?id=73639218&cid=social_twitter_abcn&fbclid=IwAR1cheSmpQuzKLggWf4CXhD6Sv3TaURMh4PYzsm56 v9WS5gdIMsfHphL06o
Did Quid self quarantine in his basement ? No he held a town hall event .
Kamala Harris had a couple of staffers she travels with test positive also .
Are they lying when they say they wear masks and keep proper distancing ? Or maybe that is just an act for the cameras and a talking point ?
Quid continues to evade the question about court packing . WE all know that is the Dem plan if they get the Presidency and the Senate .So why not admit it ?
His big whopper is that he continues to lie about not knowing about Hunter's business . In one of the emails Hunter was complaining that Quid got a 50 % cut in any business generated because of his influence . It worked out for Quid since he was never directly tied to the money .
“I hope you all can do what I did, and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years and it has been tough. It’s really hard but don’t worry, unlike Pop, I won’t make you give me half your salary.”
paraclete
Oct 16, 2020, 05:10 AM
Here's another statistic, 85% of people who vote for Trump are dumb
tomder55
Oct 16, 2020, 06:06 AM
yes that is the perception that the metrosexuals and the cosmopolitan liberal elites had in 2016 too. That is why Evita called them deplorables . That is why the emperor called them bitter clingers . They live in what the lefties call 'fly over country ' ....... land that the lefties only see when they are flying from one city to another . When the elites drive they don't get off the interstate highways unless they have to. I hope they keep their blinders on for a while longer
paraclete
Oct 16, 2020, 08:08 AM
Trump has just given credence to being dump, believing and posting on twitter that twitter had shut down its servers, how dumb can you get, something he shares with 85%, no, 100% of his supporters
talaniman
Oct 16, 2020, 08:52 AM
As I suspected ;people were watching the Trump town hall and not Quid's
These are the early rating returns (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/tv-ratings-biden-leads-town-hall-duel-with-trump-in-early-numbers/ar-BB1a6o50?ocid=msedgntp)
Quid the super spreader
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/person-flown-biden-tests-positive-covid-19/story?id=73639218&cid=social_twitter_abcn&fbclid=IwAR1cheSmpQuzKLggWf4CXhD6Sv3TaURMh4PYzsm56 v9WS5gdIMsfHphL06o
Did Quid self quarantine in his basement ? No he held a town hall event .
Kamala Harris had a couple of staffers she travels with test positive also .
Are they lying when they say they wear masks and keep proper distancing ? Or maybe that is just an act for the cameras and a talking point ?
Not only was this revealed through the campaign, but they also did the contact tracing thing, unlike the dufus when he tested positive and no contact tracing.
Quid continues to evade the question about court packing . WE all know that is the Dem plan if they get the Presidency and the Senate .So why not admit it ?
Might not be the plan Tom, even if some want it to be and why shouldn't Biden keep his powder dry until they know if it's doable. Yeah the dufus keeps his secrets to like his taxes and who he owes so Joe is entitled to think about stuff before he shoots his mouth off.
His big whopper is that he continues to lie about not knowing about Hunter's business . In one of the emails Hunter was complaining that Quid got a 50 % cut in any business generated because of his influence . It worked out for Quid since he was never directly tied to the money .
Yeah we should know about the finances between father and son, just like we should know the finances between dufus kids too huh? Why can't the dufus go first?
Wondergirl
Oct 16, 2020, 09:03 AM
I am still in shock over one exchange. A woman prefaced her question with the enthusiastic comment to Trump, "You're so handsome when you smile!" At that, his face split into the most surprised and delighted smile I've ever seen on him. I'm guessing that, throughout his life, honest compliments -- along with thank yous and atta boys and other real and sincere encouragements -- have been rare.
tomder55
Oct 16, 2020, 09:45 AM
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?p=3859493#post3859493)
As I suspected ;people were watching the Trump town hall and not Quid's
These are the early rating returns (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/tv-ratings-biden-leads-town-hall-duel-with-trump-in-early-numbers/ar-BB1a6o50?ocid=msedgntp)
https://www.newsweek.com/tiktok-biden-town-hall-trump-ratings-1539775
talaniman
Oct 16, 2020, 09:54 AM
The cyber war against the dufus is alive and well. Take that Vlad! 8D
Athos
Oct 16, 2020, 10:23 AM
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?p=3859493#post3859493)
As I suspected ;people were watching the Trump town hall and not Quid's
Of course they were. Biden was about boring presidential stuff. His ideas are well-known.
Watching Trump is like watching a train wreck. It's a guilty attraction but fascinating and hard to ignore. Trump didn't disappoint. He was his usual wacky self.
Trump is a loose cannon without any plan at all except for what he comes up with watching morning TV from his bed.
tomder55
Oct 16, 2020, 01:06 PM
The cyber war against the dufus is alive and well. Take that Vlad! 8D
you do realize ticktok is Chinese .... wonder why they would be backing Quid ?
Wondergirl
Oct 16, 2020, 02:09 PM
you do realize ticktok is Chinese .... wonder why they would be backing Quid ?
TikTok (or the Chinese) isn't backing Biden. The app has really caught on with many, many young (and older!) people in the US.
"TikTok is an app that allows people to choose songs or create their own sounds which really allows users to express themselves through the app. The social media platform allows its users to create short but fun, appealing videos to the millions of people on the app."
https://dailydolphin.hbcsd.org/7171/science-and-technology/what-is-tiktok-and-why-is-it-so-popular/
From their home page:
"TikTok is the leading destination for short-form mobile video. Our mission is to inspire creativity and bring joy.
TikTok has global offices including Los Angeles, New York, London, Paris, Berlin, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, Jakarta, Seoul, and Tokyo."
tomder55
Oct 16, 2020, 03:53 PM
TikTok like other high tech companies harvests metadata from it's users But to a much higher degree . That data includes IP address, browsing history ,mobile carrier location data if you are using a mobile device (including GPS coordinates and WiFi and mobile cell data) .
To open an account, you must enter a phone number or email and your date of birth. Once you have created an account, TikTok asks your permission for access to your social media accounts (like Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, etc.), your phone’s contact list, and GPS data They log details about every video you upload, how long you watch videos ,which videos you like ,which videos you share ;any messages you exchange in the app
If you buy coins, ,their, app currency ,to support your favorite video creators, TikTok will store your payment information.
But unlike companies like FaceBook and Google ;they have ties to the Chinese Communists . They have been determined to be a national security threat . Their parent company ByteDance is beholden to Chinese laws that require the company to assist in surveillance and intelligence operations at the direction of the Chinese government.
Athos
Oct 16, 2020, 04:34 PM
As I suspected ;people were watching the Trump town hall and not Quid's
Biden's Town Hall outdrew Trump's Town Hall 14 million to 11 million. Add in two other networks for Trump and Biden still outdrew him. 14 million to 13 million.
tomder55
Oct 17, 2020, 08:57 AM
Kristen Welker, upcoming presidential debate moderator, has deep Democrat ties. She comes from a family of Democratic activists and financial supporters . She was an attendee at the emperor's 2012 Christmas Party at the White House . She is NOT impartial
Here she is tipping off Evita's Communication director about what she is going to ask before an interview after a debate between Evita and Bolshevik Bernie .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rte_dNzJuA
talaniman
Oct 17, 2020, 08:57 AM
TikTok like other high tech companies harvests metadata from it's users But to a much higher degree . That data includes IP address, browsing history ,mobile carrier location data if you are using a mobile device (including GPS coordinates and WiFi and mobile cell data) .
To open an account, you must enter a phone number or email and your date of birth. Once you have created an account, TikTok asks your permission for access to your social media accounts (like Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, etc.), your phone’s contact list, and GPS data They log details about every video you upload, how long you watch videos ,which videos you like ,which videos you share ;any messages you exchange in the app
If you buy coins, ,their, app currency ,to support your favorite video creators, TikTok will store your payment information.
But unlike companies like FaceBook and Google ;they have ties to the Chinese Communists . They have been determined to be a national security threat . Their parent company ByteDance is beholden to Chinese laws that require the company to assist in surveillance and intelligence operations at the direction of the Chinese government.
I don't trust the Chinese government either Tom, but recognize the great advantage of their governing structure. I don't get so stuck on the communist label, so much as the authoritarian nature of their governing application. Seems as we grow here our own capitalism more resembles the Chinese communists application of government and I don't know if that's a good thing or not at this point.
Athos
Oct 17, 2020, 09:42 AM
Here she is tipping off Evita's Communication director about what she is going to ask before an interview after a debate between Evita and Bolshevik Bernie .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rte_dNzJuA
Only a true picker of nits would concern themselves with that "tipoff".
paraclete
Oct 17, 2020, 03:13 PM
I don't trust the Chinese government either Tom, but recognize the great advantage of their governing structure. I don't get so stuck on the communist label, so much as the authoritarian nature of their governing application. Seems as we grow here our own capitalism more resembles the Chinese communists application of government and I don't know if that's a good thing or not at this point.
Spoken like a true liberal, the advantage of their structure is the limitation of individual freedom, very few gunshot deaths, universal health care, indoctrination clinics for dissidents, tolls on every major road. You say you don't know if this is a good thing
tomder55
Oct 17, 2020, 03:29 PM
the advantage of their structure is the limitation of individual freedom, very telling that you consider that a good thing.
Only a true picker of nits would concern themselves with that "tipoff".
The Presidential Commission on Debates needs to be disbanded .No Republican should agree to participate in any debate until it is.two moderators, one chosen by each candidate.
Wondergirl
Oct 17, 2020, 03:51 PM
The Presidential Commission on Debates needs to be disbanded .No Republican should agree to participate in any debate until it is.two moderators, one chosen by each candidate.
And the debaters should agree to be respectful to each other and the moderators, stay within their allotted time for each topic/question, and stay on topic.
paraclete
Oct 17, 2020, 04:58 PM
very telling that you consider that a good thing.
don't know who this remark is directed to, Tal or myself, but there is no sarcasm font, so for the record i don't consider limitations of individual a good thing but there must be some limitations otherwise there is anarchy
The Presidential Commission on Debates needs to be disbanded .No Republican should agree to participate in any debate until it is.two moderators, one chosen by each candidate.
so in this case you think limitations of individual freedom a good thing, please make up your mind
tomder55
Oct 18, 2020, 06:24 AM
Quid : the unions built the middle class no matter your Ace Rage or gender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdV1AjvAsE8
He also called his running mate a camel.
Athos
Oct 18, 2020, 06:45 AM
Quid : the unions built the middle class no matter your Ace Rage or gender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdV1AjvAsE8
He also called his running mate a camel.
Biden has been afflicted with a speech impediment from childhood - he worked diligently to overcome it, but a difficulty rises from time to time. A source of the empathy Biden possesses.
Empathy that Trump totally lacks - a result of that spoon of silver in his mouth from the day of his birth. Or should I say "hatched" - a term more suitable to Trump's reptilian nature.
jlisenbe
Oct 22, 2020, 09:35 AM
Well, the Biden house of cards is becoming to come down. There is very little doubt now that the emails were authentic and belonged to HB.
"Tony Bobulinski, who was listed as the recipient of an email published by the New York Post (https://nypost.com/2020/10/15/emails-reveal-how-hunter-biden-tried-to-cash-in-big-with-chinese-firm/) that appeared to detail a business arrangement involving a Chinese (https://www.foxnews.com/category/world/world-regions/china) company and members of the Biden (https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/joe-biden) family, has confirmed that the email is "genuine" and provided more information regarding the Bidens' role in the deal."
https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/hunter-biz-partner-confirms-e-mail-details-joe-bidens-push-to-make-millions-from-china/
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-business-partner-email-genuine-joe-biden-advice
talaniman
Oct 22, 2020, 11:22 AM
Wonder if the Biden's used the same bank in China the dufus does?
jlisenbe
Oct 22, 2020, 11:25 AM
There is no evidence Trump used a Chinese bank, but even if he did, it is not against the law. Trading government influence for cash is.
talaniman
Oct 22, 2020, 11:37 AM
But your post said the Biden's were cashing in after Biden left politics so that would be legal wouldn't it? The dufus has been doing it for years just ask his daughter about all her patents granted by China when the dufus became the prez.
https://apnews.com/article/0a3283036d2f4e699da4aa3c6dd01727
jlisenbe
Oct 22, 2020, 12:07 PM
But your post said the Biden's were cashing in after Biden left politics so that would be legal wouldn't it?Biden left politics prior to 2016? Huh
The dufus has been doing it for years just ask his daughter about all her patents granted by China when the dufus became the prez.What would be wrong with his daughter receiving patents?
talaniman
Oct 22, 2020, 01:12 PM
Haven't seen anything the Biden's have done that makes the dufus a better choice for prez, and I have voted already. So all these last minute accusations and assertions are just POLITICS. You've said as much yourself many times.
jlisenbe
Oct 22, 2020, 02:12 PM
Haven't seen anything the Biden's have done that makes the dufus a better choice for prez, and I have voted already.And you want to accuse me of not following the news.
So all these last minute accusations and assertions are just POLITICS. You've said as much yourself many times.You're making things up again.
tomder55
Oct 22, 2020, 06:51 PM
Did Quid just say we had a good relationship with Hitler ? I think he did .
talaniman
Oct 22, 2020, 07:48 PM
That's historical fact Tom as American business slobbed all over him even after he started invading Europe. You should look that up.
paraclete
Oct 22, 2020, 08:08 PM
That's historical fact Tom as American business slobbered all over him even after he started invading Europe. You should look that up.
Yes America loves genocidal maniacs, until they don't. Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, Xi, Kim just to name a few
jlisenbe
Oct 23, 2020, 04:49 AM
You should look that up.Why do you make these outlandish statements for which you have no documentation, and then want someone else to do your work for you?
tomder55
Oct 23, 2020, 05:27 AM
I don't mind doing Tal's research for him. With the exception of a few American officials like Joe Kennedy ,the US did NOT have good relations with Hitler's Germany . Public opinion in the US was strongly negative toward Nazi Germany and Hitler . But the US was in an isolationist mood . I reference the US Embassy in Germany .
The rise of Hitler's National Socialist Party and the resulting persecution of Jews and political dissidents brought about another break in German-American relations. However, an isolationist Congress and American public did not allow the administration of President Franklin D. Roosevelt to do much to resist Hitler's rise to power. The Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act of 1934 was severed. After the "Reichskristallnacht" in 1938, the American ambassador was recalled but diplomatic relations were not severed.
A new wave of emigration from Germany to the United States occurred. These refugees from Nazi Germany included Albert Einstein, Thomas Mann, Kurt Weill and Marlene Dietrich, and other artists, scientists, musicians, and scholars. With the exception of the German-American Bund, with Fritz Kuhn as its "Führer," there was little Nazi support in the United States. Most German-Americans were loyal to the United States and indifferent to the appeal of international Nazism.
https://usa.usembassy.de/garelations0139.htm
FDR pressed Hitler, through letters, to refrain from invading other countries . He did not appease Hitler in any way except perhaps for publicly applauding the Munich Accords ,while realizing it was a temporary delay in the inevitable . The US started to rearm in anticipation before the beginning of WWII.
jlisenbe
Oct 23, 2020, 06:37 AM
Your move, Tal.
tomder55
Oct 23, 2020, 07:28 AM
Since I know what Tal meant I'll go further . He conflates official American foreign relations with the business relations some American corporations had in Germany ;many of them predating Hitler's rise. Example Henry Ford admired Hitler early on. Most of these companies were losing money during the Weimar years . Hitler did turn the economy around and made those American subsidiaries profitable again . Journalists like the despicable Arthur Hays Sulzberger, of the NY Slimes ,covered up the persecution of the Jews and later the holocaust .
Again ;Quid tried to smear Trump having a personal relationship with un Kim The only way Quid's point is valid is if FDR and US policy was friendly towards Hitler .
Trump may be able to talk to un Kim . But US policy is not friendly to the NORKS at all. AND FDR and US policy was NEVER friendly towards Hitler .
talaniman
Oct 23, 2020, 08:27 AM
You're partially correct Tom, but I was specific in referencing businesses as opposed to US government because they played a major role in the Nazi war efforts during the war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_involved_in_the_Holocaust
Point being that little has changed in the relationships between business and foreign governments and the official US policy. Big Biz does what they want then as NOW.
Athos
Oct 23, 2020, 11:39 AM
Since I know what Tal meant I'll go further . He conflates official American foreign relations with the business relations some American corporations had in Germany
Tal did ZERO conflating. That was you that did the conflating. Tal clearly cited BUSINESSES - not the US government or the American people - that did business in Germany during the war.
Again ;Quid tried to smear Trump having a personal relationship with un Kim
SMEAR?????? Do you mean Trump saying he was in love with the Korean thug? You have an odd definition of "smear".
FDR and US policy was NEVER friendly towards Hitler .
Tal NEVER said it was!
tomder55
Oct 24, 2020, 01:13 AM
No that is what Quid said . Tal went off on a non sequitur. Neither Trump or Quid was talking about business relationships . They were talking about diplomacy .
talaniman
Oct 24, 2020, 08:57 AM
Diplomacy is a Big Biz driven thing Tom historically. Armies take money and empires are never self financed. Let me ask YOU who profits from a trade war and do you buy China is paying for this one as the dufus alleges?