But I know you don't want to talk about it just like Quid refuses to talk about it .

You will not find this on Facebook and Twitter ...... already censored .

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/

Nothing to see here- move on .

flashback ... more 'nothing to see here '

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

If there is nothing to see here, why bother? oh, I know, you just want to embarrass the "liberals" with inuendo suggesting Biden is open to Ukrainian influence just as Trump is open to Russian influence

except there is proof about Quid and son corruption . There is also proof that the Trump Russia thing was a dirty trick by Evita's campaign. Plenty to see here . But big tech immediately formed a wall of defense for Quid

Yes, everyone defends or attacks depending upon your perspective, where there is smoke there is fire smouldering away, I think Trump has much to hide, I also think Biden might have something to hide, everyone in politics does

the weakest defense is 'everyone does it '

I'm not defending anyone, certain actions are indefensible, all I'm saying is it seems to be a part of politics, particularly in your part of the world. everyone curries favour with everyone else, the old boy network and so on

There is also proof that the Trump Russia thing was a dirty trick by Evita's campaign

Barr's investigation of the campaign ended today with nary a hint of dirty tricks by the HC campaign. This is the third investigation of HC/Obama engineered by Trump that has come up with nothing.

Only the Durham investigation is left which Trump has called a "disgrace" because of the delay in its report.

Trump and the word disgrace in the same sentence, the only time that should be used is referring to the disgrace Trump is to the office

the weakest defense is 'everyone does it 'Very true.

In one of those emails, a Russkie official told HB, "Thank you for inviting me to DC and giving me an opportunity to meet your father and spend some time together." Wonder why those Russians gave HB that high paying job?

Quid's campaign admitted that it’s possible that he may have met with an executive for Burisma during his time as vice president ,when his son was a board member of the company. Their big defense it that no official meeting was on his schedule for the time in question . No one ever suggested the meeting would be 'official' .


Barr's investigation of the campaign ended today with nary a hint of dirty tricks by the HC campaign. What concluded was a separate unmasking probe. All that was investigated was handed off to Durham .

The dufus is furious no charges and nothing until after the election. That's mud he can't sling, rocks he can't throw...bummer!

He might have to make some stuff up, eh...I mean MORE stuff.

Barr is a swamp critter . He is a slight improvement over Sessions . Trump should make Rudy Att General . Barr and Mueller are good friends . There was always a good chance he was going to slow walk the investigation and drag it out past the election.

We all know Rosenstein caboshed Mueller looking into the dufus financial ties with Russia.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a33848359/rod-rosenstein-trump-russia-block-robert-mueller/

Barr is a swamp critter

No argument there.


Trump should make Rudy Att General

Good Lord! From swamp critter to seriously mentally deranged, pop-eyed, goofy moron.


. Barr and Mueller are good friends

Not after Barr falsely demolished Mueller's hard work in a summary filled with lies.


. There was always a good chance he was going to slow walk the investigation and drag it out past the election.

There was always a good chance you would be Monday morning quarterbacking whatever happened.

Hunter Biden's quid dealings extended to Kazakhstan where he teamed up with JFKerry's daughter Alexandra Forbes Kerry. The Kerry family and the Biden family were joined at the hip in their corruption. Kerry's son Chris Heinz was eyeball deep in Hunter's Ukraine and China dealings .


and Prince Andrew ? No quid pro Joe there !

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12953815/hunter-biden-kazakh-oligarch-links-prince-andrew/

Does that mean you're up for looking into the dufus kids that work in the WH too? Check their EMAILS while you're at it.

None of them have been stupid enough to drop off a laptop with thousands of incriminating emails on it at a repair shop, and then not bother to ever pick it up.

How about daddy Biden claiming he had a union endorsement in the Townhall which he absolutely did not have and has never had? Did you call him out for lying about that?

How about daddy Biden claiming he had a union endorsement in the Townhall which he absolutely did not have and has never had? Did you call him out for lying about that?
How about Trump, more than once, declaring the pandemic will end soon and is mostly over? Do you call him out every time he lies about that?

They're tracing the Biden laptop crap back to Rudy, after being fed crap from the Vlad gang. Talk about stooge central stunts during silly season!

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/questions-new-york-biden-hunter-biden-trump-campaign-004510678.html

smear the messenger will not fly . The forensic trace of the emails are clear . It came from personal computers that Hunter dropped off to a repair shop . When he did not come to reclaim them and pay his bill ,the hard drives were copied and then the computers were handed off to the FBI . There is no Russian involvement at all except for the money Hunter received from a Russian oligarch's widow .

good grief ! The Quid campaign does not even deny it !!! . Are you saying right now that these emails are not authentic ? All Quids mumbles is that it is debunked . Then he put a lid on his campaign.....again

And to suggest that the Russkies are behind this is preposterous. They would have had to plan it beginning several years ago, predict Biden being nominated, somehow planted the computer in this guy's repair shop, and then hoped the guy would look at it and see the emails.

Yeah. I really believe that happened.

Glen Greenwald right on right on !!! This is the issue left and right should agree on !

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/10/19/glenn_greenwald_media_and_intel_community_working_ together_to_manipulate_american_people_for_their_o wn_ends.html



Don't you agree that Facebook and Twitter should not be filtering truth ?

Absolutely agree

Don't you agree that Facebook and Twitter should not be filtering truth ?

facebook, twitter and these other social media sites should be put on a strict diet of truth instead of the rubbish they allow. they should not be used for political purposes, and certainly not for commercial purposes

I say smack their a$$ with Sherman Anti-Trust violations . Break them up like they did to Ma Bell in the past .

How about Trump, more than once, declaring the pandemic will end soon and is mostly over? Do you call him out every time he lies about that?When did he do that?

When did he do that?

he lies all the time, nothing he says is truth, it is all fiction and fake news

When did he do that?
Tonight in Erie, Pennsylvania. He said the pandemic has nearly ended. All is almost normal again.

You have a news report with a quote?

Pick any channel or newspaper.

https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.BcaAu_4yxAjsGv32_Rg8oQHaFP&w=230&h=160&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&dpr=1.5&pid=3.1&rm=2

I say smack their a$$ with Sherman Anti-Trust violations . Break them up like they did to Ma Bell in the past .

Actually, it was MCI that won the anti-trust action against AT&T leading to the breakup of AT&T as Justice used the MCI victory as a blueprint for the settlement.

Pick any channel or newspaper.Already searched and came up with nothing. That makes me suspicious.

Already searched and came up with nothing. That makes me suspicious.
That's almost all he talks about now. It gets his supporters all excited and cheery. Then he dances, grinning like he's on a first date.

Either you heard him say it personally, which I seriously doubt, or you read an article about what he said, or you are just guessing. I'm going with door#3.

Either you heard him say it personally, which I seriously doubt, or you read an article about what he said, or you are just guessing. I'm going with door#3.
Oh, ye of little faith! I heard him say it on video, as reports from rallies and at the WH.

Here's one:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/10/20/trump-claims-us-is-rounding-the-turn-of-pandemic-even-as-cases-rise-30-in-past-two-weeks/#2964c63e32e6

Well, if you heard him say it on video, where is the video? Skeptical and, indeed, of little faith that you can deliver the goods. But we'll see.

Well, if you heard him say it on video, where is the video? Skeptical and, indeed, of little faith that you can deliver the goods. But we'll see.
There's a video of it on my feed.

I heard him say it numerous times on the newsfeeds of his rallies. Don't understand how you could miss it. ABC,NBC,CBS, even the local Fox News programs are playing them.

This is your claim. "declaring the pandemic will end soon and is mostly over?"

This is the quote from your link. “We’re rounding the turn,” the president said, adding he believes there will be a vaccine “very soon.”

He did not say it was "mostly over". He did not say it would "end soon". He said nothing like that, so you still need a source.


I heard him say it numerous times on the newsfeeds of his rallies. Don't understand how you could miss it. ABC,NBC,CBS, even the local Fox News programs are playing them.They do not claim he said it will "end soon" and is "mostly over". So you see why it's so easy for me to "miss it"?

I heard it from his own mouth as well as calling Fauci an idiot, as states report spikes in infections, hospitals being overloaded, and him telling more lies. You need a better news feed.

I heard it from his own mouth as well as calling Fauci an idiotThat was not what WG was talking about.


as states report spikes in infectionsSome have,


hospitals being overloadedWhich ones? That was back in July. It is infrequent now.


You need a better news feed.I just wish you had one you could reference. You plainly don't.

I gave you 4.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/16/pandemic-states-virus-rebound-429753

You gave me four what?

You claim to have given me four, and then you list one? What??

And as usual, you evidently didn't bother to read your own article. It referenced THREE states which have SOME of their hospital ICU units APPROACHING being full. That hardly amounts to a nationwide crisis. I suggest you contact those governors and ask them why they have not done a better job. Or maybe you could contact Biden and ask him about that ridiculous, lying ad he ran that you didn't even bother to comment on.

I heard him say it numerous times on the newsfeeds of his rallies. Don't understand how you could miss it. ABC,NBC,CBS, even the local Fox News programs are playing them.

You miscounted.

Actually, it was MCI that won the anti-trust action against AT&T leading to the breakup of AT&T as Justice used the MCI victory as a blueprint for the settlement. That is correct . I did not want to get into the legalese weeds when I made my comment . Suffice it to say that MCI's actions were based on the violation of the Sherman Act .


MCI's original complaint, filed March 6, 1974, contained four separate counts: monopolization, attempt to monopolize, and conspiracy to monopolize--all under section 2 of the Sherman Act3 (https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/708/1081/330445/#fn3) --and conspiracy in restraint of trade--under section 1 of the Sherman Act. MCI alleged that AT & T had committed twenty-two types of misconduct, classifiable into several categories including predatory pricing, denial of interconnections, negotiation in bad faith and unlawful tying. MCI claimed at trial, on the basis of a lost profits study originally prepared in part for financing purposes, that it had suffered damages of approximately $900 million as a result of AT & T's allegedly unlawful actions.4 (https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/708/1081/330445/#fn4)

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/708/1081/33044at5/ (https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/708/1081/330445/)

However , if it is strictly a government action then we need go no further than 'US v Microsofft '.

I heard him say it numerous times on the newsfeeds of his rallies. Don't understand how you could miss it. ABC,NBC,CBS, even the local Fox News programs are playing them.



You miscounted.Random references to "numerous times" hardly counts. The only specific source you put forward did not support your claim.

I'm guessing the news that Hunter Biden's associates set up a meeting at the White House with Quid and a group of elite Chicoms in 2011 holds no interest here
.One of the, associates ,Bevan Cooney is serving time in a Fed Pen for unrelated security fraud charges . The other ;Devan Archer ,nephew of mobster Whitey Bulger ,had his sentence in the case reinstated by the 2nd Circuit Ct. Archer was an adviser to JFKerry's 2004 campaign and was a business partner with Hunter and ,his college roommate ,and Kerry's step son Chris Heinz ,in a business called Rosemont Capital .Rosemont set up shop in DC close to where their bread was buttered by the influence of both Quid Pro Joe ,and JFKerry who had plenty of influence as a Senator and later as Sec State .

This news comes because Cooney gave emails of correspondence with Hunter to journalists . One of them revealed the 2011 meeting .

The group of Chinese at the White House meeting was “China Entrepreneur Club” (CEC) ; a group of officials of the Chinese Communist Party, other government officials (including diplomats), and billionaire business executives with close ties to the regime.

The White House meeting occurred on Monday, November 14. In an email, Cooney said Archer “got the Chinese guys all taken care of in DC.” The Chinese visitors got high-level access, including a personal meeting with Quid (and yes I'm sure there is no log recording the meeting ) .
2013 Hunter accompanied Quid on Air Force 2 to China as he and Archer created Bohai Harvest RST (BHR) investment fund backed by Chinese government funding.

So ALL the rich guys do business in China and like DUH! Maybe we need a poor guy with no ties to anybody but his family to solve our problems because if all the folks running for office are crooks then we're screwed any way right? Left? Inbetween?

So ALL the rich guys do business in China and like DUH! Maybe we need a poor guy with no ties to anybody but his family to solve our problems because if all the folks running for office are crooks then we're screwed any way right? Left? Inbetween?
so where do you find a poor guy who can afford to run for office. You are not suggesting Biden is a poor guy, are you. although poor is a relative term, when compared to a Trump, many are POOR!

I'm guessing the news that Hunter Biden's asso.............................................. .................................................. .............
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erry's step son Chris Heinz ,in a business called Rosemont Capital .Rosemont set up shop in DC close to where their bread was buttered by the influence of both Quid Pro Joe ,and JFKerry who had plenty of influence as a Senator and later as Sec State .

This news comes because Cooney gave emails of correspondence with Hunter to journalists . One of them revealed the 2011 meeting .

The group of
2013 Hunter accompanied Quid on Air Force 2 to China as he and Archer created Bohai Harvest RST (BHR) investment fund backed by Chinese government funding.

Tom, do you think this could be disinformation from Russia disseminated through Rudy Giuliani?

Tom, do you think this could be disinformation from Russia disseminated through Rudy Giuliani?

Where did Rudi find the time, in between scenes in the latest Borat movie? This all sounds like the plot of a Borat movie, make glorious america

Athos there is no evidence of Russian disinformation and all the Adam Shiff head howling won't change that . Brennan ,Hayden and Clapper are lying through their teeth .They have not seen the evidence and neither has Schiff . DNI Ratcliff says no evidence of Russian meddling in this issue . The FBI has possession of the computer and hard drive since Dec 2019. We're supposed to believe that the Russians ,before Quid even announced his run ,set up fake emails in a lap top and dropped it off at a repair shop in Delaware . The emails have been confirmed as valid (and I won't even bring up the videos recovered . They just show a very disturbed young man with many issues) . The order for the repair work on the computer is Hunter's signature . That has also been confirmed .

As for the rest ? Cooney turned over 26,000 emails to the authorities He also is giving the details to investigative reporter Peter Schweitzer who has exposed corruption in Washington that implicates pols on both sides of the aisle. All the details about their professional and personal relationships have also been established .

Athos there is no evidence of Russian disinformation and all the Adam Shiff head howling won't change that . Brennan ,Hayden and Clapper are lying through their teeth .They have not seen the evidence and neither has Schiff . DNI Ratcliff says no evidence of Russian meddling in this issue .

The source of your information is Rudy Giuliani. The others mentioned here are classified by you as "lying through their teeth" although the sycophant idiot Ratcliffe (well-named) is offered by you as truth. Schiff, Brennan, Hayden, and Clapper are the people you call liars. Is that a conspiracy at the highest level?

If anyone needs more information on this fiasco, read a detailed explanation at the link below by a highly regarded investigative site.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/10/15/hunter-biden-laptop-giuliani/

No way dufus stooge Ratcliff could be the one lying.

The source of your information is Rudy Giuliani. That is one source . Today someone on the email chain agreed to hand over texts to to the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee ; and says on the record that this was not Russian disinformation .Tony Bobulinski will turn his electronic devices and records of business dealings with Hunter and Jim Biden over to the FBI

Looks like you may have to impeach Joe, or the dufus again. You know how long those investigations can take. Especially since it was only for the smear value talking points any way.

If that is not Hunter's signature on the invoice for the work on the computer let Quid say so tonight. If Quid is not the "big guy" referenced in emails and the texts let Quid deny it tonight.

Maybe he was setting up his retirement job for after politics like they all do. Are we going to investigate the dufus debts too or foreign accounts?

If that is what he was doing ,let him tell the country that tonight too .

Love to hear it myself if the dufus doesn't interrupt, as if a turned off mic will stop him.

What I want Trump to do is refer to Quid as 'the big guy ' every time he addresses him .

What I want Trump to do is refer to Quid as 'the big guy ' every time he addresses him .That would make it more interesting.

What I want Trump to do is refer to Quid as 'the big guy ' every time he addresses him .
Trump's the "big guy." How much does he weigh now?

Oh my. Fat shaming now??

Oh my. Fat shaming now??
Reality.

As expected ,Quid says he didn't take any Russian money but doesn't mention Hunter. Nor does he deny the validity of the emails or the evidence coming out. Says it all Russian disinformation.

Anybody notice the dufus kid is a head taller than the old man at 14? Wow.


As expected ,Quid says he didn't take any Russian money but doesn't mention Hunter. Nor does he deny the validity of the emails or the evidence coming out. Says it all Russian disinformation.

Nice answer.

Again he did NOT said that the emails are fake or that the laptop wasn't Hunter's

It's amazing how pols promise to spend money when we have accepted that it can all be done with borrowed money. It's a politician's dream, but it should be our nightmare.

We agree. Seems foolish to give money to rich guys who don't need it when we really don't have it to give.

We agree. Seems foolish to give money to rich guys who don't need it when we really don't have it to give.
when did not having money stop anyone, just print more

We agree. Seems foolish to give money to rich guys who don't need it when we really don't have it to give.Amazing how you consider taxing less to somehow amount to "giving money" to people. You do realize that it is their money to begin with?

Amazing how you consider taxing less to somehow amount to "giving money" to people. You do realize that it is their money to begin with?

No socialist or liberal will ever admit to that

Amazing how you consider taxing less to somehow amount to "giving money" to people. You do realize that it is their money to begin with?

That's what conservatives say and always have so no surprise you echo the sentiment over the common national good. A weak central government is an old concept but a government strong enough to serve and protect it's people is my idea of a priority.


No socialist or liberal will ever admit to that

And no capitalist conservative will ever admit to equal protection under the law, or equality in general. Profits over people is the rule.

I disagree.

Conservatives say that because it’s true.

Conservatives say that because it’s true.

I disagree. Unregulated capitalism is a sure path to corruption and inequality. Giving the richest economic power over the least, is the very example of slavery since we shed blood to eliminate it, so why go down that path which I submit we already have?

Trading chains and whips for dollars and cents isn't progress, nor is it as voluntary as advertised.

You are changing the subject. No one suggested any part of what you stated. It is simply true that allowing a person to keep what is already his or hers does not amount to giving them something.

Of course it does dude since they haven't yet earned it, and certainly not alone without help, but you allow them to claim it all and dole it out as they see fit regardless. Ceding control of the whole pie to the few is basically trickle down economics. Has always been. "If you don't like it leave and go somewhere else" is not an option for the MANY.

they haven't yet earned it,What??? What are you talking about? Of course they have earned it. Are you trying to suggest that a person has not earned their income until the govt says they have? I really hope you are not suggesting that.


Ceding control of the whole pie to the fewYou're making things up again.

Like I care what you think. I don't.

Fine with me. You're not making sense anyway. You haven't earned it til the govt says you have? The whole pie belongs to just a few people? Just forget it.

Okay!

Brought this up because it is the anniversary of the big lie .

Exclusive | Email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian biz man to dad (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/)

The deep state went into damage control after the NY Post exposed the Biden Crime family for all to see.

The Censorship Industrial Complex went to work . They pressured Fakebook and Twitter to spin the approved tale. The Post story above was suppressed for 16 days

Twitter Unblocks NY Post Account After Standoff Over Biden Stories (variety.com) (https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/twitter-unblocks-new-york-post-hunter-biden-hacked-materials-1234820449/)

Anthony Blinken ;then part of Clueless Joe's campaign mobilized former Intel officials to publish a letter claiming the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation.

the_intelligence_community_51-_how_cia_contractors_colluded_with_the_biden_campa ign_to_mislead_american_voters.pdf (house.gov) (https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/the_intelligence_community_51-_how_cia_contractors_colluded_with_the_biden_campa ign_to_mislead_american_voters.pdf)


The compliant press did their part in the coverup

NPR Public Editor on X: "Why haven't you seen any stories from NPR about the NY Post's Hunter Biden story? Read more in this week's newsletter➡️ (https://x.com/NPRpubliceditor/status/1319281101223940096/photo/1)https://t.co/CJesPgmGvo https://t.co/jAi7PnpbZf" / X


What was learned ? The Dems learned that censorship works . Both Kam the Sham and Tampon Tim have promised to double down on it claiming there is no constitutional right to free speech

So woooohooo . We have another reason to celebrate today besides Columbus Day ......ooops I mean Indigenous People's Day.

We can celebrate our loss of liberty to big brother.

So This is How Liberty Dies, With Thunderous Applause (4K HDR) (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFKc_oDSaX4&t=2s)