In a mind-boggling declaration, unprecedented in over 200 years of United States government, Trump has refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses the election.

In a rambling answer to a reporter's question, Trump cited ballots, a rigged election, and the Democratic party as his reasons for his defiance of the Constitution.

AS previously noted here, the mentally unbalanced Trump gets crazier and crazier as the presidential election gets nearer and nearer with November 3 a mere six weeks away.

It's not over yet. Former Defense Secretary Mattis has called Trump "dangerous" and "unfit", quoted by Bob Woodward in his book Rage. Other former Trump appointees are expected to speak publicly regarding Trump's unfitness.

The nation is entering the final phase of its most dangerous time.

"win lose or draw will you commit to a peaceful transition of power " Bottom line ....there will be no transition of power if he wins . The question presumes he will lose .

Then the "reporter" references rioting as if that has anything to do with his question ;and again presumes Trump is the cause of the rioting . Why should he take this clown from Playboy's question seriously ?

Trump mentioned the ballot issue and the clown went back to 'people are rioting ' . It was 100% a gotcha question that did not deserve as much of a response as was given.

But Trump did respond by suggesting that if the balloting is fair that there will be no need for a 'transfer of power '. So part of the problem was Trump giving a response to an unserious question . The question and the all day media frenzy over it did not move the needle .

There will be a new phony issue tomorrow ;grist for the mill ,to feed the weekend talking points .
That will be forgotten by Tuesday as the debate takes center stage .

loaded question, why would anyone even consider that Trump wouldn't abide by the rule of law

But Trump did respond by suggesting that if the balloting is fair that there will be no need for a 'transfer of power

And if the balloting is "unfair" according to Trump? What then?

Tom, your defense of Trump always surprises me.


So part of the problem was Trump giving a response to an unserious question

The question was as serious as can be. Trump's answer is circulating world-wide in all media. Unserious? Your boy is going down, tom. Get used to it.

Even Moscow Mitch looked a bit shaken and said Trump's crazy ... well, no, he didn't go THAT far yet. Other stalwart Trumpsters also chimed in on Twitter and in public that the election will be held.

e.g., “The president says crazy stuff. We’ve always had a peaceful transition of power. It’s not going to change,” Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) said.

(Why else does Trump want to stack the SCOTUS with conservatives before November 3rd?)

omg He plays you like a Stradivarius and y'all keep falling for it



Look sleep well tonight. There is zero chance that if he loses he will not leave office.

Look sleep well tonight. There is zero chance that if he loses he will not leave office.
Nope, no chance. Second Amendment. (He's actually quite funny!)

The dufus talks a lot of crap, but NOBODY knows what he will do, but the real fear is whatever he does will repubs go along with it? Of course they will no matter what they say. That's the REAL danger of this dufus. Between elected officials and true believers anything can happen.

. Other stalwart Trumpsters also chimed in on Twitter and in public that the election will be held.

e.g., “The president says crazy stuff.



The election will be held, is that even in doubt? It seems the President is not the only one to say crazy stuff.

for the pundits here;

The election will be held

there will be a peaceful transition no matter who wins

there is no danger the US will become a full autocracy

If its a close one we will have a lot of chaos. The dufus will fight if for nothing else but the helluvit!

Hope for the best, but foolish NOT to plan for the worse.

Trump should have replied, "If I win, do you suppose the rioters will commit to this supposed transition?" That's the real question. How much you want to bet that this Playboy reporter (if such a thing really exists) hasn't asked that question of the rioters?


If its a close one we will have a lot of chaos. The dufus will fight if for nothing else but the helluvit!Yeah, and I'm sure the Harris/Biden ticket and Pelosi will gracefully concede if the election is close and the mail-in ballots, with all of the strict security surrounding them, have not all been counted yet or even found.

If its a close one we will have a lot of chaos. The dufus will fight if for nothing else but the helluvit!

Hope for the best, but foolish NOT to plan for the worse.
and yet it was Evita that advised Quid to not concede

His reply should be if asked again ..... 'did the Dems that attempted a coup in 2017 and impeachment in 2020 accept a peaceful transition ? '

Trump should have replied, "If I win, do you suppose the rioters will commit to this supposed transition?" That's the real question. How much you want to bet that this Playboy reporter (if such a thing really exists) hasn't asked that question of the rioters?

I'll take that for what it is an attempt at loony right wing humor.


Yeah, and I'm sure the Harris/Biden ticket and Pelosi will gracefully concede if the election is close and the mail-in ballots, with all of the strict security surrounding them, have not all been counted yet or even found.

They're not supposed too, neither is the dufus. Do you even read what you wrote?


and yet it was Evita that advised Quid to not concede

His reply should be if asked again ..... 'did the Dems that attempted a coup in 2017 and impeachment in 2020 accept a peaceful transition ? '

The dufus earned his impeachment, worked hard for it, but there was no coup attempt just the lawful expression of dissatisfaction. Come on can't you conservative spin better than that this morning.

I'll take that for what it is an attempt at loony right wing humor.Nah. You just don't seem able to understand it.


They're not supposed too, neither is the dufus. Do you even read what you wrote?They're not supposed to concede?? I thought that's what you were complaining about.

I don't care if the dufus concedes long as he leaves when he loses, and kicking and screaming is okay too. Now a perp walk would be ideal!

oh there was definitely a coup attempt .This weeks revelations about the Steele Dossier source (Igor Danchenko)and the actions of the FBI confirm it .The primary source that Steele used to compile his dossier was the subject of an FBI counterintelligence investigation 2009-2011. Danchenko mostly used gossip with another source in Russia . Much of Danchenko’s supposed intel gathering occurred while drinking heavily with his friends back in Russia. The FBI knew Danchenko’s heavy drinking was a factor in his “intelligence gathering,” but it doesn’t appear to have given the bureau any second thoughts about his credibility.

When the FBI learned the truth ,they withheld that information from FISA when applying for warrants and renewals . This information had been in the Horowitz report as classified . It was declassified this week .

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/AG%20Letter%20to%20Chairman%20Graham%209.24.2020.p df (https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/AG%20Letter%20to%20Chairman%20Graham%209.24.2020.p df)

Danchenko also worked at the lib think tank Brookings Institution. Danchenko was close to Fiona Hill, whom he described as a mentor. Hill went on to be employed at the National Security Council specializing in Russian and European affairs. She was a star witness against Trump during the sham impeachment .

The president of Brookings, Strobe Talbott, was a prominent Bubba adm official who was instrumental in circulating the Steele Dossier around Washington before it became public. Further proof that a Dem cabal was engineering a coup attempt .Talbott was considered a Russian source by Russian spy Sergei Tretyakov. A charge Talbott denies .

Steele claimed Talbott learned about his dossier work from either Susan Rice or former Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland. You remember Nuland because she was deep in the impeachment also . Susan Rice you recall wrote a cya memo to herself before the emperor's cabal left the White House saying that everything that happened was done properly . She was also in the Jan 5 2017 White House meeting where options about Flynn was discussed . (where Quid suggested that they use the Logan Act against Flynn)

The new release of exculpatory evidence in the Flynn case reveal that the FBI agents tasked by Comey to take down Trump and Flynn during and after the election were so concerned about their potentially criminal behavior that they purchased liability insurance less than two weeks before Trump was inaugurated.

https://www.scribd.com/document/477364140/Explosive-FBI-Texts-Show-Internal-Furor-At-Crossfire-Hurricane-Handling

This is all FINAL proof that Flynn was framed and that the DOJ directive that charges against him be dropped should immediately be granted . The names of the agents responsible for the texts are redacted .But the documents included handwritten notes and texts from Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page, and FBI analysts who worked on the investigation of Flynn. When they found out that Jeff Sessions was to be AG ,they moved to get him recused because “The new AG might have some questions…then yada yada yada…we all get screwed.” Text messages suggest that FBI agents deliberately kept the case open despite finding no evidence against Flynn. Several texts show that the order to close the criminal investigation against Flynn came as early as election day November 8, 2016.

Before I label this dufus/Barr spin I better get another cup of coffee as I further review your evidence. OBVIOUSLY you've had yours!

half my day is over

I'm going to go way out on a limb and suggest that you have already decided to label it spin. Anything favorable to Trump is labeled "spin" by default.

Where do you find anything favourable to trump, do you share his dreams?

Not in my case, as I endeavor to do my homework. Yes I did review Toms links, I ALWAYS do. Fact is this case was thrown back to the trial judge after review by the full appellate court. That they did not follow the 3 judge panels decision after the Sullivan appeal is a telling one.

https://www.nbc29.com/2020/08/31/appeals-court-keeps-flynn-prosecution-alive/

The Russians paid Hunter Biden $3.5 million, and the primary source of the Steele Dossier was a Russian spy. And Mueller didn’t uncover any of it? hmmm

The Russians paid Hunter Biden $3.5 million, and the primary source of the Steele Dossier was a Russian spy. And Mueller didn’t uncover any of it? hmmm

You have the senate and DOJ, make an arrest and be done with the smearing.

anything favourable to trump

Anything favorable to Trump? Really? Well, let's see. Historically low unemployment figures, which is really a big deal. Appointment of sane federal judges. Taking advantage of establishing a Supreme Court that interprets law and does not legislate from the bench. Takes a firm position in opposition to abortion. Has at least made a 200 mile start on the southern border wall with practically no help from the dems. Reversed the decline of the American military. Economy produced 10X more manufacturing jobs in his first 20 months than in Obama's final 20 months. Positive GDP growth in every quarter. DJIA has been very healthy. Has pushed back on senseless, violent protests in American cities. Revamped the tax code which helped to spur on economic growth. Turned back a sickeningly political impeachment effort. Appointed an AG which, unlike one of his predecessors, does not conduct bargaining meetings on airplanes with people under active FBI investigation. Conducted an effective program of confining the COVID pandemic, a program which only is criticized with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.


do you share his dreams?I don't know what his "dreams" are. I do generally support his policies.

Fact is this case was thrown back to the trial judge after review by the full appellate court. That they did not follow the 3 judge panels decision after the Sullivan appeal is a telling one.

what you are saying is that the DC Circus court is political ? How can that possibly be ? The DC Circus has 11 judges but only 10 participated in the decision. 7 of those judges, including the chief judge, Sri Srinivasan, were appointed under Democratic presidents.

So if the criteria for your criticism of the decision is who appointed them then is it not the case that repub appointed judges would further the right wing agenda? If it's wrong for dems, why would it not be wrong for repubs? Didn't the dufus and JL say that was the purpose of the judges being appointed?

No I didn't say the decision was political just posted the link on the status of the case. You inferred it was political because of who appointed the judges.

7 of those judges, including the chief judge, Sri Srinivasan, were appointed under Democratic presidents.Yet another reason to vote for Trump. Anyone who cannot look at the Flynn case and see a clear miscarriage of justice is just politically motivated.

The evidence presented to Sullivan makes the case for dismissal a slam dunk except if the decision to continue is political . From the beginning it has been a gross miscarriage of justice. Let's hope you are never subject to this type of persecution.

It certainly wasn't for the appellate court, so we await Sullivan's ruling. Doesn't appear to be a slam dunk to me either, as Barr's own assertation Flynn never should have been investigated is bogus. To not look into his actions would be a dereliction of duty even if we question the procedure. My first question would be directed to the original prosecutors on this case as a review of that procedure is crucial. I suspect that's exactly what Sullivan will do.

We already know that in the Oval office Jan 5 2017 ,the emperor ,Comey ,Yates ,Quid ,Rice ,Brennan ,Clapper all met and plotted to frame Flynn. That is an undeniable fact .

Sally Yates already confirmed that. Yates apparently only found out at that meeting that Comey circumvented their normal practices when it came to going through the White House counsel before interviewing Flynn . It was so secret a plot that Yates the Asst AG ,did not even know about it until the Jan 5 meeting . We already know that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not think he lied .We know that because Dept Asst FBI Andrew McCabe testified to that fact .

Really ,Trump needs to press the issue Tuesday and confront Quid about his role in the framing of Flynn. It was Quid who suggested framing Flynn using the Logan Act (a law that no one has ever been convicted of ;and is an unconstitutional law anyway) . Peter Strzok said that he knows that Comey believed that Flynn's call to the Russian ambassador was a legitimate function of the incoming National Security Advisor . But they continued the investigation anyway . You know and I know it was a complete set up entrapment . Heck the FBI interviewer asked for clarification if they should try to entrap him with a perjury trap ;or just try to get him fired .

Really ,Trump needs to press the issue Tuesday and confront Quid about his role in the framing of Flynn.Absolutely true. If the debate moderators are honest, they will ask the question themselves. That's IF they are honest.

Why did Flynn lie to Pence?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pence-i-knew-flynn-lied-to-me-about-russian-contacts-when-he-was-fired/

That's if Quid remembers .

Check out his rambling denial/non-denial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnaoqZk71Uk

George Stephanopoulos : "What did you know about those moves to investigate Michael Flynn?"
Quid "I know nothing about those moves to investigate Michael Flynn,"

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0129/2092/products/KnowNothing_button_grande.jpg?v=1571438531

That wasn't the question.

Why did Flynn lie to Pence? Do not know what he said to Pence that was a lie. But that was between the President and Flynn . Advisors to the President serve at the pleasure of the President . Flynn resigned due to a request that he resign.

It is my understanding that the so called " lie " was based on a summary of the phone call that Pence was given by the Intel people. (Yeah them ;the same ones that framed Flynn. )Pence could have been fed a distorted view of the conversation with tech cuts from the actual dirty cops.

Just so you'll know, Mississippi State just beat LSU in Baton Rouge by 44-34.

Do not know what he said to Pence that was a lie. But that was between the President and Flynn . Advisors to the President serve at the pleasure of the President . Flynn resigned due to a request that he resign.

It is my understanding that the so called " lie " was based on a summary of the phone call that Pence was given by the Intel people. (Yeah them ;the same ones that framed Flynn. )Pence could have been fed a distorted view of the conversation with tech cuts from the actual dirty cops.

I think I'll stick with the version in my link which gives all the probable cause you need to investigate the dude.