20 American soldiers were killed in Afghanistan as Russia orchestrated hit squads and put a cash bounty on lives of American GIs. It is unknown which or how many of the 20 were killed for that reason.

Trump knew perfectly well what Putin was doing. Trump did nothing for two months until he rewarded Putin by trying to invite him to a new G8.

Trump would rather go after Americans protesting on the street, then protect our soldiers. He cares little about American lives. He proves it over and over.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/russian-operation-targeted-coalition-troops-in-afghanistan-intelligence-finds/2020/06/26/ac710092-b80f-11ea-9b0f-c797548c1154_story.html#comments-wrapper

Very misleading post here . 20 American soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan this year ;that is true . It is unknown at this point if any of those troops were killed by Afghans taking bounty money .The Compost citing NY Slimes citing anonymous officials, reads “it was not immediately clear whether the militants approached by Russia as part of the initiative had succeeded in killing Americans or allied forces.”

The Russian unit involved is the GRU unit 29155 . This information is coming out of US intel agencies and it is unclear how reliable their reporting is as they have already proven to have an agenda to take out the Trump administration .

The facts are that the NSC met in March to discuss options . And Trump's administration briefed our allies about it last week (which is when this information most likely leaked to the compliant press ) The report says that there is a debate within the Administration to decide on a response .


Yes wouldn't it be convenient for anti-Trump and anti-Russian people in the government to have this revealed at a time when Trump was reaching out to invite Russia to participate in the Group of Seven ? Quite a coincidence on the timing .

Do I think it is possible ? Of course I do .Russians have been helping others kill GI’s pretty much since the end of WWII. Neither the Korean nor the Vietnam Wars would have been possible without heavy Russian support. 100,000 Americans were killed in those wars. How many Americans were killed in Syria with the help and backing of Russians ? You know it is true . Russians were advancing on American positions in Syria when our troops gave them an a$$ whooping .Would it be fair to then say that the emperor does not care about American lives ;or that every President since Truman doesn't ?



edit . 20 Americans killed in Aghanistan in 2019 . 2 this year .

The image of the dufus shoulder deep up Putty's a$$ comes to mind, but I understand he has to keep on friendly terms with Vlad so he can have somewhere to go if he loses his election bid, and has to flee the country. Whether Vlad takes him in or not is another matter, but remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FIauuTAgD8

I wasn't even surprised when I heard the news on MSNBC last night. SHHH! Don't tell JL.

yawn a report in 2017 digging up a comment Eric Trump allegedly said to a golf reporter at a tournament in 2013. 2013 was before any sanctions against Russia. Russian money was being invested all over the world . Was it possible that Russian money was used for the golf course ? Yes . What does that mean ? Absolutely nothing. In the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis and before the sanctions against Russia and before the worldwide oil market downturn, there was a ton of Russian money being invested around the world .

As for the OP .....how were the Russians defeated in Aghanistan in 1989 ? What role did the US play ? How many Russians lost their lives to American funded mujahidin?

Yeah Tom those good old days of US superiority. To bad Bin Laden turned against us and attacked instead of cutting a better deal. Too bad Vlad is getting in the driver seat in Afghanistan without firing a shot or sending armies, just selling weapons to the Taliban like we have done all over the world, with a cash bonus to boot.

I have not conceded that the premise is true. Trumps spokesperson denied he had been briefed on this ;and Russia is saying the report is untrue . It seems to me to be quite a coincidence that this was leaked to the press at the time when Trump is trying to get Russian participation in the G 7 .

What do I know ? I know intel assessments can be wrong. I know you believe that . I know that members of The intel community past and present do not like Trump .That they attempted to sabotage his campaign in 2016 That they attempted a coup against him after he was elected . And that the Slimes and Compost carried the water for the saboteurs and carry the water for the Dems who have also conspired to remove him from office . Their own Inspector Javert tried to pin something on Trump and yet found no basis for collusion charges .And yet you still beat that dead horse by bringing up 2nd and 3rd witness alleged comments by Trump's son in 2013 .

Bring me proof besides a Compost and Slimes report and maybe I'll take it seriously.

A fair point and I admit I don't trust or believe anything the dufus or his administration says about anything, especially regarding Vlad or Russia.

Lot of it about, deflection and disinformation, they should rename the White House Tass

As for the OP .....how were the Russians defeated in Aghanistan in 1989 ? What role did the US play ? How many Russians lost their lives to American funded mujahidin?


Yes the only war the US has won recently and they didn't have troops on the ground, very instructional

Trumps spokesperson denied he had been briefed on this

What would you expect them to say?


Russia is saying the report is untrue

What would you expect them to say?


What do I know ?

Whatever you learn from the far-right loony bin. I thought you were better than that.


they [intel agencies] attempted to sabotage his campaign in 2016 That they attempted a coup against him after he was elected . And that the Slimes and Compost carried the water for the saboteurs and carry the water for the Dems who have also conspired to remove him from office . Their own Inspector Javert tried to pin something on Trump and yet found no basis for collusion charges

This is truly bizarre coming from you. Sabotage ... attempted coup ... saboteurs ... conspiracy ... Inspector Javert ... collusion charges.


Bring me proof besides a Compost and Slimes report and maybe I'll take it seriously.

Like the pedophile ring in the pizza parlor basement?

I have not conceded that the premise is true.


More info for you - comments?

The facts behind this case are still emerging, but we know a few key details from reliable accounts. The White House learned of the Russian military intelligence program to offer cash bounties to the Taliban for kills of Americans or our allies early in 2019.

Then National Security Advisor John Bolton personally briefed the president (https://apnews.com/425e43fa0ffdd6e126c5171653ec47d1) last year on the intelligence detailing the Russian program. This year, reports on the program appeared in the President’s Daily Brief on at least two occasions. Yet Information about the Russian bounty program was not shared with the congress, as the law mandates.

When the story finally broke, the White House initially claimed it was “fake news.” When the facts became too widely known to be denied, the president first briefed not the Congress but only Congressional Republicans at the White House, contrary to all existing norms in such matters.

The White House has argued this week that the president was not briefed on these matters. When that was disproven, it argued that he did not recall the briefing (On Tuesday afternoon, the White House said that Trump had just been briefed on the information that had been in his daily written intelligence briefing in February). Leakers were decried in an effort to distract from the core story. But at no point have the core facts of the matter been denied.

Just as the dufus lies he gets caught in them. Now it seems they have evidence of money changing hands between Vlad's glove boys and specific Afghan middle men and the dufus was told about it last year.

Trump says this is fake news so that's what it is, right?

I caution anyone to believe the words of a compulsive liar, without verifying his veracity, and the dufus has none.

How can you verify what he was told or not told or chose to ignore.

More will be revealed for sure. Always is isn't it?

no the news cycle will roll on

Athos I don't believe Bolton . He discredited himself with his tell all book which most likely contains classified info that could land him in jail . He made his agenda clear and that includes staying in Afghanistan .I'm sure there are more Bolton and Vindman types in State and the Intel agencies who are annoyed that this President has a different agenda than they have .

Catherine Herridge is a CBS News senior investigative correspondent . She wrote These comments on Twitter this week :

according to a Sr intel official, The GRU Taliban bounty allegation was NOT in the "President's Daily Brief (PDB) which is the highly classified, daily summary of national security issues delivered to the President, key cabinet secretaries + advisers.."The official confirmed the NSC has been doing “due diligence,” and going back through their files since the story broke Friday, and they have not found the “intelligence assessment” described in media reporting. The official said the review is ongoing, but given current...talks with the Taliban, intel about a GRU operation involving the Taliban, targeting US forces would have risen to the level of inclusion in the PDB

She tweeted this since "statement Pentagon DoD “continues to evaluate intelligence that Russian GRU operatives were engaged in malign activity against United States and coalition forces in Afghanistan. To date, DOD has no corroborating evidence to validate the recent allegations...”

Late night on record statement National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien who has direct knowledge. “Because the allegations in recent press articles have not been verified or substantiated by the Intel Community, President Trump had not been briefed on the items.”

NOW: NSA Robert O’Brien tells reporters “career intel officer” made call not to verbally brief @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
on alleged Russian bounty plot “the person who decided early on whether the president should be briefed on this in the Oval, in the Oval intelligence briefing was...his career, a career senior servant, a CIA officer + she made that decision because she didn’t have the confidence in the intelligence that came up...She made that call + you know what she made the right call. And knowing the facts I know now, I stand behind that call.”

Rare public statement from CIA Director Haspel. “In general, preliminary Force Protection information is shared throughout the national security community—and with U.S. allies...Leaks compromise and disrupt the critical interagency work to collect, assess, and ascribe culpability.” (This is the process to validate/corroborate)He wasn’t briefed, because it was only partial intelligence. It was still being investigated for proof that it actually occurred. They can’t brief the President on every rumor and piece of intelligence whether it’s real or not.

https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge

so this is just more of that "reliable" intelligence the CIA is famous for

so this is just more of that "reliable" intelligence the CIA is famous for unfortunately . Why anyone would take their intel at face value is beyond me

What do you expect department heads to say in public, "Trump is a dufus!" Or "The dufus is lying again!". Naw we do need to get to the bottom of this and find out what is really going on.

What do you expect department heads to say in public, "Trump is a dufus!" Or "The dufus is lying again!". Naw we do need to get to the bottom of this and find out what is really going on.

You know what is going on, just more undeclared cold war stuff. the mice are nibbling away at the edges

What's going on is the dufus is lying again and his sycophants are covering for him again, and Vlad is involved again.

Vlad is like the phantom of the Opera

Vlad is nothing new, just a dictator consolidating power and expanding his reach to suck money into his pockets. Same playbook all dictators use. The dufus is trying his best to be a dictator within the allowable time limit, and maybe get Vlad to foot the bill for after he leaves office. We all know that requires the dufus to do as Vlad wants so what's the big mystery?

All you need to do is to think it through . The Taliban already has an agreement with the US for us to leave the country . Forget Putin . What do they have to gain by continuing attacks on us ? Answer none. But there are war hawks in the deep state that don't want to see us go . (and that is bipartisan )
So what happened after the unnamed source floated that story ? Well yesterday the Dems in the House Armed Services Committee voted to add additional provisions to be met before Trump can withdraw troops . One unconfirmed leak to the compliant press and mission accomplished . No verification needed . For the Dems it is easy . It is one less campaign promise Trump can fulful before the end of his first term. They also get the benefit of keeping this completely bogus and discredited narrative of Putin's influence alive


According to MSNNews there was a disagreement between CIA and NSA about the veracity of the report . In other words there was not a consensus among the intel agencies about the report . So of course the Slimes and Compost ran with it in an attempt to damage the President .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nsa-differed-from-cia-others-on-russia-bounty-intelligence/ar-BB16a7hg?li=BBnb4R7&ocid=mailsignout

And of course the hypocrisy of this is off the charts .
Flashback to 2010 ..... Iran pays Taliban $1,000 for every American killed in Afghanistan ... http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39014669/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/t/report-iran-pays-each-us-soldier-killed-taliban/#.Xv38VaFKiUn

And what did the emperor do to retaliate ? He sent pallets full of cash ;freed up *8 billion in assets and caved in and gave everything Iran wanted in the JCPOA.

The issue Tom, is what is the dufus doing now about all these issues? There is no agreement with the Taliban to do anything. Have they had a cease fire yet? Is everybody out to get the dufus? Of course, it's an election year, and most Americans want him out. What, repubs are the only ones who can sling mud and see what sticks? Puh-leeze! You've been around long enough to know how this works.

POLITICS!

The issue Tom, is what is the dufus doing now about all these issues? There is no agreement with the Taliban to do anything. Have they had a cease fire yet?

Nothing to be done except to see if there is any truth to it . As I mentioned it wasn't even in the PDB according to named sources . Even if it was ,the PDB is about a 50 page daily brief that encompasses every possible real threat . Biden says he would read it but he is lying . At most he would flip through it and rely on his national security team to give him a spoken presentation of any consensus threat . I'm pretty sure that at very least senior Congressional members like Madam Mim ;Schmucky ,and the Turtle are briefed on any real threats also .

As far as a cease fire ;the Taliban say no ;we say there is an agreement . There have been no US casualties since we announced it . They have not attacked us . We have not attacked the Taliban . We have attacked the Islamic State and AQ .

Our withdrawal is based on an agreement between the Taliban and the Afghan government. You think that's going to happen soon? I sure don't, and they have no such cease fire, and I wonder where ISIS and AQ keep getting money to survive, or how much we pay those mercenaries to do our fighting for us?

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-04-26/us-employs-unprecedented-number-of-security-contractors-in-afghanistan