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Athos
Oct 27, 2019, 10:23 PM
In Trump's FIRST general public appearance as president EVER, he was roundly booed at the World Series game. His facial reaction registered surprise, even shock.

An inning later, the crowd chanted "Lock him up, lock him up".

For Ukraine - bribery, wire fraud, conspiracy
For Russia - obstruction of justice
For Stormy Daniels payoff - campaign finance violations, conspiracy
Many more possibilities

paraclete
Oct 27, 2019, 10:26 PM
In Trump's FIRST public appearance as president in three years, he was roundly booed at the World Series game. His facial reaction registered surprise, even shock.

An inning later, the crowd chanted "Lock him up, lock him up".

For Ukraine - bribery, wire fraud, conspiracy
For Russia - obstruction of justice
For Stormy Daniels payoff - campaign finance violations, conspiracy
Many more possibilities

Seriously, the crowd want to lock him up after his victory over ISIS, no sense of history

Athos
Oct 28, 2019, 02:45 AM
Seriously, the crowd want to lock him up after his victory over ISIS, no sense of history

It wasn't Trump's victory. In fact, his abrupt withdrawal from Syria was what caused the military to advance its plans for Bagdadi. Trump's screw-up jeopardized those plans yet the idiot claimed credit for the raid's success.

Unbelievably, he also claimed credit as the "only one" who knew about Osama Bin Laden and called for Osama Bin Laden to be killed well before the attack on the World Trade Center. In the height of stupidity, he said the facts were stated in his book. Well, it isn't hard to check a book and it turned out that Osama Bib Laden, well-known at the time, was NEVER called by Trump to be killed in his book.

Trump continues to shock and amaze by his never-ending gross stupidity.

paraclete
Oct 28, 2019, 05:11 AM
Why are you shocked by anything he says?

Vacuum7
Oct 28, 2019, 05:18 AM
Athos: Well, you must admit, that this wasn't a surprise given the location: Trump was in D.C. and, next to U.C.@ Berkeley campus, you probably won't find a more left leaning area of the country.

Athos, Trump had 28 U.S. Soldiers pulled out of Syria: How do we not know that this "withdrawal" was a part of a larger plan to "draw" the BagDaddy out of hiding so we could kill him?

I am against U.S. involvement in Syria anyway: This action was never APPROVED BY CONGRESS, and that goes back to when Obama stuck U.S. military forces in there a while back: If the Congress didn't pass a resolution for their deployment to Syria, then their deployment is illegal.....do you not agree? Furthermore, I don't one U.S. Soldier to die protecting E.U. oil: Let the Europeans get up off their dead arses and prtect their own damned oil! If Trump want to get wide support, he should follow-through with his pledge of GETTING ALL U.S. MILITARY PERSONNEL OUT OF THE M.E.! This is a RUNNING SORE THAT WILL NEVER HEAL!

Athos
Oct 28, 2019, 06:58 AM
Athos: Well, you must admit, that this wasn't a surprise given the location: Trump was in D.C. and, next to U.C.@ Berkeley campus, you probably won't find a more left leaning area of the country.

DC is filled with the fringe right-wing. You have it backwards.


Trump had 28 U.S. Soldiers pulled out of Syria: How do we not know that this "withdrawal" was a part of a larger plan to "draw" the BagDaddy out of hiding so we could kill him?

You can't be serious! Odd how you constantly defend and approve of Trump while declaring you don't support Trump. Is this your own little attempt at gaslighting?

Vacuum7
Oct 28, 2019, 07:26 AM
Athos: O.K., you got me, again, but I thought D.C. was decidedly left because all their lone House delegate is a Democrat and has been for as long as I remember...….wouldn't you say that while D.C. may have Right wing pockets that the majority of its inhabitants are of the left? Otherwise, how would they continue to put Democrats into office.....remember their crackhead smoking D.C. Mayor? He was Democrat and all successive mayors have been Democrat.

Athos: I am just trying to look at ALL the potential possibilities of what may have transpired in the killing of the big terrorist.....sometimes these things can be very elaborate.....and, yes, I know its a stretch and probably DIDN'T happen this way but just can't rule it out completely.

BTW, Athos: I still AM NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER!!!

Athos
Oct 28, 2019, 01:00 PM
Athos: O.K., you got me, again,..........and, yes, I know its a stretch and probably DIDN'T happen this way ..............

BTW, Athos: I still AM NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER!!!

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

talaniman
Oct 28, 2019, 04:16 PM
What difference does it make that a majority of DC votes democrat? That doesn't make them wrong because they lean left either. That's just the demographics of the area and indeed the whole country is one way or another, some are divided fairly even and ALL are Americans. Yeah one got caught smoking crack and went to jail but does that tarnish every dem?

It should not and repub politician are corrupt and go to jail too. So said that to say as more is revealed about this getting the ISIS leader we can judge things better but keep in mind that gettin Bin Laden didn't end Al Qaeda, nor I doubt will Bagdaddy's death be the end of the Islamic States rather vast multi country network. They lost land and followers maybe, but have been scattered since we liberated the stronghold of these radical terrorists.

paraclete
Oct 28, 2019, 05:23 PM
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

We need to modify that statement; if it looks like a dill, walks like a dill and quacks like a dill, it just might be Trump

talaniman
Oct 28, 2019, 08:21 PM
We need to modify that statement; if it looks like a dill, walks like a dill and quacks like a dill, it just might be Trump

Or a sycophant, or defender, that swears he isn't! I find that fascinating.

paraclete
Oct 29, 2019, 05:57 AM
Or a sycophant, or defender, that swears he isn't! I find that fascinating.

You find the strangest things fascinating, personally I'm over the cult of Trump and the cult of not Trump

jlisenbe
Oct 29, 2019, 07:09 AM
DC is filled with the fringe right-wing. You have it backwards.

You are the only person in the world who believes that. 90% of those "fringe right wing" people in D.C. voted for H.C. They don't call it "the swamp" for nothing. It could very well end up being a plus in the election. The fact that he is hated by the D.C. crowd is a good reason to vote for him.

talaniman
Oct 29, 2019, 10:00 AM
Factually DC has no senators or house reps so it has no delegates to the electoral college.

Athos
Oct 29, 2019, 11:38 AM
You are the only person in the world who believes that.

That was in response to the claim that DC is second only to Berkely in it's radical left fringe.

Everybody got that but you.

The poster later changed the claim from "radical fringe" to "democratic voters". He admitted the hyperbole. Guess you missed that, too.

Explaining about DC and its Democratic party leanings was done by Tal.

Look before you leap.

Vacuum7
Oct 29, 2019, 12:34 PM
D.C. has s LONE delegate, Mrs. Eleanor Holmes Norton.

Wondergirl
Oct 29, 2019, 01:19 PM
D.C. has s LONE delegate, Mrs. Eleanor Holmes Norton.
Eleanor Holmes Norton is an American politician serving as a non-voting Delegate to the United States House of Representatives, representing the District of Columbia. As a non-voting member, Norton may serve on committees as well as speak on the House floor; however, she is not permitted to vote on the final passage of any legislation. She is a member of the Democratic Party. (Wikipedia)

Athos
Oct 29, 2019, 01:54 PM
D.C. has s LONE delegate, Mrs. Eleanor Holmes Norton.

That is correct. She is a delegate to the House of Representatives. (See WG's post above).

The Senate has no delegates from DC.

The Electoral College has three delegates from DC. Rep. Norton is not one of them since, by law, a member of Congress cannot be a delegate to the Electoral College.

jlisenbe
Oct 29, 2019, 03:47 PM
That was in response to the claim that DC is second only to Berkely in it's radical left fringe.

Everybody got that but you.

The poster later changed the claim from "radical fringe" to "democratic voters". He admitted the hyperbole. Guess you missed that, too.

Explaining about DC and its Democratic party leanings was done by Tal.

Look before you leap.



Your quote was, "DC is filled with the fringe right-wing." Unless "filled" now means something like 5% full, then your comment is ridiculous. Write what you mean.

Tal's explanation was to the effect that D.C. has no vote in the electoral college. That is not true. As you pointed out yourself, they have three, so why you would appeal to Tal's explanation is a mystery.

Athos
Oct 29, 2019, 05:06 PM
Your quote was, "DC is filled with the fringe right-wing." Unless "filled" now means something like 5% full, then your comment is ridiculous. Write what you mean.

Tal's explanation was to the effect that D.C. has no vote in the electoral college. That is not true. As you pointed out yourself, they have three, so why you would appeal to Tal's explanation is a mystery.

As I said, you don't get it.

And you got the wrong Tal post.

I can't explain EVERYTHING to you.

You have to learn to keep up. Or, if not, learn how to go back.

jlisenbe
Oct 29, 2019, 06:07 PM
As I said, you don't get it.

And you got the wrong Tal post.

I can't explain EVERYTHING to you.

You have to learn to keep up. Or, if not, learn how to go back.

"DC is filled with the fringe right-wing." Learn how to write accurately, and you won't have to explain. Not complicated. But if you want to say that "filled with" actually meant there are very few right wingers in D.C. then fine with me.

talaniman
Oct 29, 2019, 06:37 PM
Your quote was, "DC is filled with the fringe right-wing." Unless "filled" now means something like 5% full, then your comment is ridiculous. Write what you mean.

Tal's explanation was to the effect that D.C. has no vote in the electoral college. That is not true. As you pointed out yourself, they have three, so why you would appeal to Tal's explanation is a mystery.

I stand corrected. (https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/allocation.html)

jlisenbe
Oct 29, 2019, 07:10 PM
No big deal. I had no idea myself.

Athos
Oct 30, 2019, 02:38 AM
"DC is filled with the fringe right-wing." Learn how to write accurately, and you won't have to explain.

Actually I DO have to explain since you still don't get it. This is my second time I'm telling you that. Learn how to read accurately. It's ok to misread something, but to do it after having the error explained to you is very Trump-like. The more you post, the more you take after your hero.


But if you want to say that "filled with" actually meant there are very few right wingers in D.C. then fine with me.

Groan. I give up.

jlisenbe
Oct 30, 2019, 06:48 AM
Groan. I give up.

If I was trying to defend your position, I'd give up, too. It's hopelessly absurd.

talaniman
Oct 30, 2019, 07:24 AM
Everybody knows that one right wing loony fringer makes more noise than 250,000 ordinary people so do the math, all you need is 10 fringers in DC to offset the whole population of normal folks. That's what Athos expressed! I concur. No need to defend that position just look at DC and the noise machine the dufus is running.

I mean like DUH! How simple is that to understand? Well maybe for normal people but obviously not to fellow fringers'! You must be one of the dufus fringers! That's the only explanation for NOT understanding the math.

paraclete
Oct 30, 2019, 01:59 PM
Wait a minute your contention there are normal folks in DC

talaniman
Oct 30, 2019, 02:18 PM
Sure Clete, however I do have a few peeps who are borderline but for the most part they are as ordinary as you get.

paraclete
Oct 30, 2019, 03:29 PM
Sure Clete, however I do have a few peeps who are borderline but for the most part they are as ordinary as you get.

So Trump voters, then?

talaniman
Oct 30, 2019, 03:37 PM
You just want me to admit I have stark raving right wing loons in my family! Fine got a few, voted for the dufus, might not again, but you never know! You happy now?

jlisenbe
Oct 30, 2019, 04:57 PM
Everybody knows that one right wing loony fringer makes more noise than 250,000 ordinary people so do the math, all you need is 10 fringers in DC to offset the whole population of normal folks. That's what Athos expressed! I concur. No need to defend that position just look at DC and the noise machine the dufus is running.

Words cannot express how happy I am that I don't need explanations like that for my statements.

talaniman
Oct 30, 2019, 05:12 PM
That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Gimme a break willya? I've read your explanations for your positions too and I'm just as thrilled as you are.

jlisenbe
Oct 30, 2019, 05:22 PM
I've always said I like you because I never have trouble trying to figure out what you are saying. You also don't make a plain statement and then come back and try to represent it as being something entirely different. I tip my hat to ya!

paraclete
Oct 30, 2019, 09:14 PM
I've always said I like you because I never have trouble trying to figure out what you are saying. You also don't make a plain statement and then come back and try to represent it as being something entirely different. I tip my hat to ya!


Hey JL get over yourself, if you don't want the opinions of others there is a place you can go

jlisenbe
Oct 31, 2019, 02:54 AM
Hey JL get over yourself, if you don't want the opinions of others there is a place you can go

You might want to try taking your own advice before you start giving it to others.

talaniman
Oct 31, 2019, 04:24 AM
Ya gotta admit JL the dufus brough a lot of right wing fringers with him to the WH. It's being reported by the loony right if we dump the dufus, we get rid of those fringers too. What great incentive to get that lying, cheating bully! If we can just keep Vlad out of our business...!

jlisenbe
Oct 31, 2019, 04:34 AM
Ya gotta admit JL the dufus brough a lot of right wing fringers with him to the WH. It's being reported by the loony right if we dump the dufus, we get rid of those fringers too. What great incentive to get that lying, cheating bully! If we can just keep Vlad out of our business...!

That's fine if you want to believe that. He is certainly, in my view, trying to replace left wing loons with conservatives, but your observation is fair enough. My objection was to saying D.C. was "filled" with right wing individuals. Well, 90% of D.C. voted for Hillary, so that is plainly an incorrect statement. I get what he meant. I'm not sure how it became such a big deal. He sort of corrected himself so let's move on.

talaniman
Oct 31, 2019, 05:31 AM
Good enough, that brings us to the impeachment inquiry. After the investigation phase the public gets to see the goods and the dufus gets to explain himself. The rules to proceed get voted on today or sometimes this week. With baseball season over with, no doubt the media will focus on the lies the dufus tells and repubs squirming in their draws trying to answer questions, as the EVIDENCE is presented, if the economy doesn't fall, or nobody blows something up, or California burns up and falls in the sea.

paraclete
Oct 31, 2019, 06:40 AM
can't see Donald explaining himself any time soon

jlisenbe
Oct 31, 2019, 06:43 AM
Good enough, that brings us to the impeachment inquiry. After the investigation phase the public gets to see the goods and the dufus gets to explain himself. The rules to proceed get voted on today or sometimes this week. With baseball season over with, no doubt the media will focus on the lies the dufus tells and repubs squirming in their draws trying to answer questions, as the EVIDENCE is presented, if the economy doesn't fall, or nobody blows something up, or California burns up and falls in the sea.

Lots of circumstantial evidence and lots of second/third hand conjecture, but other than that the dems just don't have the goods.

talaniman
Oct 31, 2019, 06:53 AM
I beg to differ, but so far we have the dufus's own people giving first hand testimony to what they saw. 10 EYEWITNESSES who work for the dufus! That's NOT circumstantial, and they have ALL verified the WB's initial testimony. All you have are the dufus LIES.

The process continues.

jlisenbe
Oct 31, 2019, 07:31 AM
I beg to differ, but so far we have the dufus's own people giving first hand testimony to what they saw.

Give one example by name of first hand witness of illegal activity.

talaniman
Oct 31, 2019, 08:09 AM
We are beyond that debate JL, we have moved to the phase of presenting evidence to the American public, and formal articles of IMPEACHMENT. You may as well just sit and eat popcorn with me and enjoy the fireworks.

jlisenbe
Oct 31, 2019, 09:54 AM
We are beyond that debate JL, we have moved to the phase of presenting evidence to the American public, and formal articles of IMPEACHMENT. You may as well just sit and eat popcorn with me and enjoy the fireworks.

In other words, you don't have the slightest idea.

talaniman
Oct 31, 2019, 11:29 AM
If you wish to characterize it that way, go ahead, but I think I have posted all my opinions with links already. Soliciting a foreign government to get dirt on your political foes is against the law whether it worked or not. You don't agree with that, even thought it started in May, and used taxpayer money for the leverage?

You see nothing wrong with this conspiracy to win an election using a foreign government? Using OUR government for his political purpose?

jlisenbe
Oct 31, 2019, 11:41 AM
You see nothing wrong with this conspiracy to win an election using a foreign government? Using OUR government for his political purpose?

If you have any genuine proof that such a thing happened, then bring it forward.

talaniman
Oct 31, 2019, 12:05 PM
Don't need too. We are about to see if the dems are as incompetent at getting the dufus as the repubs were getting the Clintons or Obama. Pass the popcorn.

jlisenbe
Oct 31, 2019, 12:23 PM
Don't need too. We are about to see if the dems are as incompetent at getting the dufus as the repubs were getting the Clintons or Obama. Pass the popcorn.

Amen.