It seems every day Trump says or does something that makes everybody shake their heads in disbelief, including his own party and followers.

As the various investigations into Russian collusion with the presidential election campaign delve deeper and get closer, Trump today asked his legal team if the president can PARDON HIMSELF. Let me repeat that - TRUMP WANTS TO KNOW IF HE CAN PARDON HIMSELF. He said it, not me.

An innocent person would not ask that question. (He also wants to know if he can pardon his family. Hmmmmmm.)

This follows Trump's throwing his Attorney General Jeff Sessions under the bus yesterday. The world awaited Sessions' resignation today but, wimp that he is, he declared his intention to "stay on".

While his "pardon himself" story was breaking, Trump's legal team spokesman resigned.

One more - Treasury fined Exxon $2 million for illegal behavior when current Secretary of State Tillotson was heading Exxon. Exxon then sued Treasury, so now two Trump appointees, Secretary Mnuchin and Secretary Tillotson, will have a go at each other.

Folks, you can't make this stuff up.

Trump is getting nervous-er and nervous-er.

Trump doesn't understand that he is not engaged in a business, he cannot hide his dealings. To top this off he makes stupid statements on twitter, thinking he is big-noting himself, when he is just fueling the fire. This is a man who is supposed to have a high IQ, but he is stupid

High drama, and weird behavior are enigmatic of the Orangeman's reign. He makes it up as he goes along, and hides his ignorance and disdain of the rule of law behind bombastic rhetoric and bully tactics. That's the way he has always done business, and always will. If you think the first 6 months have been a wild ride, you better hold on even tighter for what undoubtedly comes next.

Consider seriously what lurks in the wings. The dapper Mike Pence. Not as loud, but much more dangerous as a TRUE conservative.

Nothing is more dangerous than the ranga in the White House, anyway I notice his hair is turning white

Nothing is more dangerous than the ranga in the White House

Don't be so quick to jump on the obvious here. Just beneath the surface of the Trump chaos is the true republican agenda being quietly worked, and implemented. You have to recognize the conflict between the Trump base, and the Republican elites, is the only thing standing in the way of a true oligarchical domination of monetary, and social policies that completely dismantles the social safety net, and redirects even more of the resources to a very few powerful people.

Don't be so quick to jump on the obvious here. Just beneath the surface of the Trump chaos is the true republican agenda being quietly worked, and implemented. You have to recognize the conflict between the Trump base, and the Republican elites, is the only thing standing in the way of a true oligarchical domination of monetary, and social policies that completely dismantles the social safety net, and redirects even more of the resources to a very few powerful people.

That's a very good point which I have considered but decided Pence was preferable because he had a better haircut.

But, seriously, I really should give that more thought. Trump is such a disgraceful moronic bozo occupying the highest position of a great country that the national and international embarrassment he has brought to the nation often clouds everything but getting rid of the clown.

But, as you say, meanwhile the Trump Cabinet appointees are slowly dismantling the rules and regulations in their various departments according to the Republican agenda. After all, who needs clean water when the money could better be spent adding a new wing to the mansion in the Hamptons?

Food for thought.

A Javert like investigation with no limits .News of Mueller's ever expanding investigation suggests to me that he has nothing that he can pin on the Trump Adm in regard to linking the Trump campaign to cooperate with Russia to rig the election. This is a fishing expedition looking for an underlying crime to justify the existence of his crusade .His staff has now grown to unimaginable and unjustified size . You know and I know that he will keep on throwing spaghetti on the wall until something of a process violation can be proved . He'll then charge someone with perjury and call it a day . News to Mueller ;it would've been extremely odd for Trump ,or any other large real estate developer in the US to not have had business dealings with Russian oligarchs after the fall of the Soviet Union. A decade ago the Russian oligarchs were buying up every piece of American real estate they could get their hands on. At least 15% of NYC is foreign owned ;and Russians hold the biggest share of that market . Before Mueller continues he should be compelled by Rosenstein to name the crime he's investigating . Then and only then should he be permitted to proceed . His only mandate was to investigate the possibility of Russian -Trump cooperation in rigging the election ;and the possibility that Trump obstructed the process by firing Comey. American justice doesn't work this way ;investigating until you find a crime is unAmerican .

Like the Clinton witch hunt in the 90's? Or the Benghazi investigationS? Your turn!

The only crime that will be found worthy of an investigation is the criminal unmasking of members of the Trump team without FISA warrants .When the investigation goes deep enough it will be revealed that this was systemic violations committed by the emperor's regime. We will find out that the Obots were snooping on members of Congress who were in contact with Israeli officials at the time of the Iran deal negotiations .NSA provided the White House with intercepted Israeli communications containing details of private discussions between Bibi Netanyahu , U.S. lawmakers ,and American Jewish groups on the Iran nuclear deal.The violations of NSA rules were systemic to the emperor's administration. Nah that didn't happen .

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-spy-net-on-israel-snares-congress-1451425210

He even eave dropped on Dennis Kucinich when Kucinich opposed his war on Q Daffy .

Dennis Kucinich: I'm no fan of Trump's but he's got a point about wiretapping | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/03/10/dennis-kucinich-im-no-fan-trumps-but-hes-got-point-about-wiretapping.html)

Naw, they will find out that the Donald has been laundering Russian money and the whole family is in on it. They all will go to jail for tax evasion. That's how they got Capone. That is unless Trump does more dump stuff like commit treason because he agreed to let Putin have Syria and they wipe out the rebels. They already got Tillerson for working with the Russians even though they had sanctions in place.

Tom there is so much crap to find on Trump they had to let OJ out of jail to make room for the Trump crew. You know Jared and Ivanka forgot to list a few millions on their financial disclosure forms don't you? How many times will he have to amend his official filings? But that's small stuff. Wait till we see those Trump tax returns.

What's the problem Tom? Trump already said he would PARDON everybody including himself and of course repubs will let him. You should be glad for something besides the summer reruns to look at.

No so much someone looking for a crime as a circus in search of a tent as the elephants and the donkeys parade led by the orangatan in chief

Liberals are the only ones with their panties in a knot. They actually believe they are ENTITLED to a dictatorship and one party rule... and they will not accept the FACT, that most of the country does not agree with them. So they act like petulant children whining and complaining, and even worse breaking the law by slander and Libel. And daily they continue to be unable to show the maturity the average 7 year old is somehow able to display.

Liberals are the only ones with their panties in a knot. They actually believe they are ENTITLED to a dictatorship and one party rule... and they will not accept the FACT, that most of the country does not agree with them. So they act like petulant children whining and complaining, and even worse breaking the law by slander and Libel. And daily they continue to be unable to show the maturity the average 7 year old is somehow able to display.

Tell me smoothy, what maturity does the ranga in the White House display, twittering the day away like a teenager? You cannot expect the people to display maturity when they are daily subjected to immaturity. Bull and bluster doesn't get the job done. The presidency has largely become irrelevant when it should be leading. Obama led you into the mire of the ACA but at least he led but Trump doesn't know which way to go

Liberals are the only ones with their panties in a knot. They actually believe they are ENTITLED to a dictatorship and one party rule... and they will not accept the FACT, that most of the country does not agree with them. So they act like petulant children whining and complaining, and even worse breaking the law by slander and Libel. And daily they continue to be unable to show the maturity the average 7 year old is somehow able to display.

Give me a break! You guys still have your jocks in your throat from the Obama years when you cried and whined about everything and anything. Now you have your dictatorship and still you are whining. I can safely say the country doesn't agree with you and Trump WILL have hell to pay. Unlike you guys who could ONLY WHINE.

Liberals are the only ones with their panties in a knot. They actually believe they are ENTITLED to a dictatorship and one party rule... and they will not accept the FACT, that most of the country does not agree with them. So they act like petulant children whining and complaining, and even worse breaking the law by slander and Libel. And daily they continue to be unable to show the maturity the average 7 year old is somehow able to display.
Please tell me three positive things Trump has done for the US.

Trump accomplishments (IMO):
Gorsuch was a great SCOTUS selection

executive orders reducing regulations ;freeing US businesses of $4 billion in regulatory burden.

unshackling the effort to defeat ISIS.

Illegals crossing the border are down by 40%

Steering the US towards a much more realistic foreign policy than the previous 8 years

Issuing orders to the Executive Dept to eliminate all “unnecessary” agencies and reorganize those that remain to improve their “efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability.”

Unleashing the energy sector from the assault against it by the emperor's regime.

He could've done much more .His legislative agenda is in shambles because the Repubs went for Health Care reform instead of overhauling the tax system .He has been much too distracted by this phony Russian investigation (and Tal ;if Mueller had a mandate to investigate Trump family finances then fine.But he doesn't .His mandate is to investigate this charge of colluding with the Russians to "hack " the election. Mueller had found nothing and will not find anything illegal .)
He wastes way too much time on social media and his administration messaging is in shambles . Now he thinks that by bringing in a liberal bleeding heart in as his communications director that his image will magically change ? Good luck with that .
His agenda is pro-business ;but otherwise "progressive " which means ultimately the government will be spending even more money it doesn't have.

You know Tom. He hasn't achieved much really because he has alienated everyone. What can be done by regulation he has done but he needs the people with him, he needs the Congress with him, and he needs the Senate with him and this he has not done. Laws are not made by Presidents

(and Tal ;if Mueller had a mandate to investigate Trump family finances then fine.But he doesn't .His mandate is to investigate this charge of colluding with the Russians to "hack " the election. Mueller had found nothing and will not find anything illegal .)

Investigation 101 Follow the MONEY!

I have said often on this forum that if Trump is vulnerable it is in his business practices .Mueller does not have a mandate to investigate that . In Rosenstein's words ,Mueller's task was to investigate "any links and/or coordination between Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation.”


Mueller abandoned that almost immediately and instead staffed up with heavy Democrat contributing lawyers of dubious objectivity. Then he immediately went to work to try and prove obstruction . When that went no where ,he has again refocused the investigation on the business dealings of Trump and Jared Kushner.


No Tal ;investigation 101 says you have to have an underlying crime to justify your investigation. What is the crime ? That Trump had real estate dealings with Russians since the fall of the Soviet Union ?If that is a crime , then he and every major real estate developer in the country is guilty .

Mueller has a reputation of being a straight shooting man of professional integrity .He is rapidly losing that to being a political tool of the Democrat beltway and the establishment media . He has time to salvage his reputation if he pulls back from the Alice in Wonderland type investigation . If not ,he works for the Red Queen. (paraphrase )"First the verdict and then the trial" !

Trump accomplishments (IMO):
Gorsuch was a great SCOTUS selection

Gorsuch was/is a right-wing conservative - that's all, hardly "great"


executive orders reducing regulations ;freeing US businesses of $4 billion in regulatory burden.

yeah, like getting rid of that nasty clean water



unshackling the effort to defeat ISIS.

What unshackle? The bozo has not done a thing except cause the death of a brave soldier by his ill-timed raid in Yemen.


Illegals crossing the border are down by 40%

Nothing to do with Trump. EVERYTHING to do with the economy. Don't you read?


Steering the US towards a much more realistic foreign policy than the previous 8 years

Are you NUTS? The clown has DESTROYED almost 100 years of good will because of his "foreign policy" - which is really no policy at all except embracing Russia.


Issuing orders to the Executive Dept to eliminate all “unnecessary” agencies and reorganize those that remain to improve their “efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability.”

You're confusing "efficiency" with right-wing hatred of a government that helps its citizens.


Unleashing the energy sector from the assault against it by the emperor's regime.

Obama supported clean air, clean water, clean energy, all-around improvement in the environment. You call this an "assault" against energy! The only assault you're against is the one against huge profits for the fossil fuel industry.



He could've done much more .His legislative agenda is in shambles

WHAT legislative agenda? He doesn't have one.


He has been much too distracted by this phony Russian investigation

PHONY? Are you kidding? Everyone around him has lied (and lied and lied some more) about meeting with the Russians BEFORE, DURING, and AFTER his campaign/election. Did you read the emails submitted by his son? Phony? Not hardly.


He wastes way too much time on social media

Well, you finally got something right.


His agenda is pro-business

This is where you Trump enablers always get it wrong. He is not "pro-business". He is PRO-TRUMP. Everybody but you right-wingers know this. His business acumen is a JOKE! 6 bankruptcies (he's proud of them - leaving his creditors out to dry and often go under because he didn't pay his bills and got the GOVERNMENT - ahem - to protect him), Trump University - remember that fiasco? - an absolute sham that ultimately cost him $25 million to settle claims against him by the students, Next, there's not a bank in North America that will lend him a dime because he DOESN'T REPAY HIS LOANS, the top 4 law firms in DC REFUSED to take him on as a client because HE'S A DEADBEAT and that refusal came when he was President of the United States!! Imagine that!



"progressive " which means ultimately the government will be spending even more money it doesn't have.

If you are worried about the debt, why not start with your beloved corporations and the billions they avoid paying in taxes by phony off-shore accounts. Google "corporate inversion".

That was very well said Athos!


No Tal ;investigation 101 says you have to have an underlying crime to justify your investigation. What is the crime ? That Trump had real estate dealings with Russians since the fall of the Soviet Union ?If that is a crime , then he and every major real estate developer in the country is guilty .

Lets see how this works, Follow the money is Standard Operating Procedure for finding out about rich guys, and there illegal schemes, which starts with Manafort, Flynn, and a few other lesser named "associates", throw in with Trumps son and son in law, who has amended his security and financial forms how many times, because he forgot stuff, while his son has changed his story about his meeting with a Russian with ties to Putty's mob..I mean government, and you have a good case for FOLLOWING the MONEY!

Then we get to fire a few AG's at justice, and the guy at the FBI doing the investigating, mix in the words and actions of Trump, and we have PROBABLE CAUSE to look deeper. The bank connections are icing on the cake for wrongdoing, since the guy has done wrong before, including payoffs to the Florida AG. We do have it in WRITING that Russia wants to help Trump against Hillary thanks to Dufus Jr.

Hello Duetsche Bank!! The dufus and his son in law are in hock to those fronts for money laundering, favored by real estate types, and oligarchs. So you see Tom, you have to follow the money when you deal with rich guys because bread crumbs are beneath them.

Why would every other candidate for president release tax returns and they don't have to, and Trump doesn't? He had to know that it just LOOKS bad. Finally Tom, following the money is the best way to get the verifying documents to how who you do business with and the kind of business you do. Even Vlad knows that and its an old story to hook a greedy bast@rd into doing stuff for you because they are in a financial fix.

we get to fire a few AG's at justice

The emperor fired all of them when he came in.



and the guy at the FBI doing the investigating mix

the hypocrite Dems wanted him fired months ago.

The emperor fired all of them when he came in.
the hypocrite Dems wanted him fired months ago.

tomder55 - pay attention. The year is 2017 - there's a new guy in the White House. The majority party in Congress is now the Republicans. Stop dwelling in the past!

When you reply to a post like you've done here, you are telegraphing that you have nothing to say to the points raised in said post.

Athos there might be a new guy in the White House but the same pitiful, pathetic, politics are in play, Tom knows this

the past is always an inconvenient truth when hypocricy is in play.

Hypocrisy is 8 years of lies, obstruction, and name calling, along with a few dirty tricks, then when you get the power, blaming the other guys for not helping you screw themselves. I distinctly remember you saying the repubs were supposed to obstruct the dems, that the way the system works. Okay now that repubs are the ruling party, you surely can't be against the dem resisting EVERYTHING repubs do now can you Tom? You may as well own the repubs past behavior as an inconvenient truth, and accept the dems resistance to republican dominance as another "inconvenient truth".

So yeah, anything we can do to make Trump a ONE TERM president should be INEVITABLE! At least limit his authority, influence and agenda, as repubs did Obama. That's not hypocrisy at all, just FAIR.

The conflict continues.

big difference between stopping an agenda and trying to remove him from office with fallacious and phoney charges. Big news today is that Glenn Simpson ,co-founder of Fusion GPS is going to plea the 5th during Senate hearings . Fusion GPS was hired by Evita to dig up dirt on Trump . They hired the guy who created the salacious and false Steele Trump dossier . They also were lobbying against the Magnitsky act .

big difference between stopping an agenda and trying to remove him from office with fallacious and phoney charges

There are no charges, just an investigation, which is totally removed from stopping the right wing agenda. Fallacious and phony remain to be seen, but considering Trump meets both of those descriptions it's an appropriate statement.

More leaks, this time claiming that Mueller is seeking to turn Manafort against others by pressuring him about a money laundering scheme, although there's no actual evidence of such a scheme . This is how 3rd world justice is ....decide someone is guilty and then make up a crime for it .

Cops and prosecutors in AMERICA use the same tactic ALL THE TIME, and it's ALWAYS been legal! Besides Flynn is the one ready for a deal, and you don't need a leak to know that.

In case you missed it, tomder, Congress today passed legislation placing sanctions on Russia for interfering in the 2016 presidential election. Guess it wasn't as PHONY as you claimed, eh? Trump, of course, cannot veto it because it was passed overwhelmingly by his own party of Republicans (and Democrats) and a veto would be politically disastrous.

Recognizing the political realities, Trump's new press secretary Sanders came up with this shamelss piece of baloney saying the Administration IMPROVED the legislation which was "poorly written ... but we made the necessary changes to support it". It is hard to believe she had the brass ones to make such an obviously FALSE statement.

Naturally, her new boss Scaramucci said the opposite - "He (Trump) hasn't made the decision yet to sign the bill one way or the other". This character who was hired to coordinate the confusing WH statements has stepped right into it on his first day by contradicting his underling.

Btw, Fusion GPS was FIRST hired by the Republicans to DEFEAT Trump before he was nominated. After nomination, they lined up behind orangehead like so many ducks in a row.

As I've said before - FOLKS, YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE UP STUFF LIKE THIS !!

What is phony is the charge that Trump colluded . You haven't proven it because it is not true .



September 2015, Fusion GPS was hired to do opposition research for Republicans who opposed Donald Trump's bid during the Republican primary campaign (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016) for the 2016 presidential election (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016). When Trump had emerged as the probable Republican candidate by the spring of 2016, Republican donors stopped funding the investigation, and Democrat supporters of Hillary Clinton became Fusion GPS's new clients.[17] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_GPS#cite_note-how-17) In June 2016, after the Democratic National Committee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee) had been hacked and its emails began to be published online, Fusion GPS retained Christopher Steele (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Steele), a private British corporate intelligence investigator and former MI-6 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI-6) agent, to research any Russian connections to Trump. Steele issued a series of memos from June to December 2016, which became the document known as the Donald Trump–Russia dossier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier).
The dossier was one lie after another .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_GPS

Glenn Simpson ;cofounder of Fusion GPS has declined to voluntarily attend the Judiciary Committee hearing regarding compliance with the Foreign Agents Registration Act. A subpoena has been issued to compel his attendance. Simpson’s attorney has asserted that his client will invoke his Fifth Amendment rights in response to the subpoena.

Fusion GPS is also involved in the conduct of Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya .
2013 ;US Att Preet Brahara was investigating Russian citizen Denis Katsyv regarding money laundering . He hired a US law firm which then hired Fusion GPS to develop information to help defend Katsyv.

Fusion GPS was also involved in investigating information about principals in the Magnitsky Act of 2012.Natalia Veselnitskaya was involved in promoting Russian interest in ending the Magnitsky Act. All these connections lead back to Fusion GPS, its client list, its sources, its refusal so far to provide Congress with documents of its activity with and for Russian actors since 2013.The unanswered questions about the leaking of the unmasking and leaking of Michael Flynn’s name also involves documents that have yet to be seen by the public.

Also Susan Rice testified in a closed door meeting to the Senate Intel Committee. Chairman Richard Burr spoke after the meeting that there was definitely improper unmasking and leaking to the media by the emperor's regime.

House Intelligence Committee issued subpoenas to the CIA ,NSA ,and FBI about the unmaskings by John Brennan, Susan Rice, and Samantha Power. Specifically the committee wants to know what does Power have to do with the unmasking and leaking of Flynn’s name? Chairman Nunes announced that he intends to make a “criminal referral” to the Department of Justice about Obama administration officials who leaked names of Trump campaign members that were gathered by U.S. intelligence surveillance.

That is the only crime you will find in this whole sordid affair. But it would help to know exactly what role Fusion GPS had and for who they served . If Fusion GPS was working in the service of Russia ;and the Clintoon campaign hired them . Then I would conclude that any collusion that happened was between the Russians and the Clintonistas .

Don't be offended if I just wait on the investigation to be over, and not just take your word for it. I think Flynn, Manafort, Kushner, Lil Trump, got some splaining to do and answer some questions. If it leads to Big Daddy Trump, or Sessions, or wherever, then so be it!

Even if there was no collusion between the Dufus and Russia, I am still going to blast his wrinkled butt! 4 years or 8, and there is plenty of ammo to do it with.

Even if there was no collusion between the Dufus and Russia, I am still going to blast his wrinkled butt! 4 years or 8, and there is plenty of ammo to do it with.

Fine . I bet in more than one case I'll join you. But this Russia thing is going nowhere . Even Schmuck Schumer realizes this and is trying to redirect his party towards policy differences .

I wish it were so simple Tom, as this crap talking dufus has a way of putting people down that's downright insulting. I doubt I would take that from a dem or liberal no matter what the policy agreement or disagreement was.

Orange man talk with forked tongue! As much as I dislike greatly AG Sessions, that recent attack on him was totally inappropriate.

As much as I dislike greatly AG Sessions, that recent attack on him was totally inappropriate.

Agree .Sessions has been loyal to Trump to the end . I find it hard to believe it came as a surprise that Sessions would recuse himself. To blame him for the appointment of Mueller just doesn't jive with the facts .. Comey manipulated the events that triggered the hiring of Mueller . That happened weeks after Sessions recused himself .

I was no fan of Comey's either, but the issues I had with him were his unprofessional handling of the Clinton emails/server during a political campaign.

For a bully who hits back when he feels personally attacked his response to the Russian cyber attack is extremely troubling.

It also turns out that Jeff Sessions had been considering recusal long before the story about the meeting with the Russian ambassador broke;for reasons rooted in law and Justice Department policy....https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/45.2

It was also part of his nomination hearings if Dufus had been paying attention. This is all about getting his loyal soldier out of the way to get after Mueller. What's he got to hide? He sure got the GOP senators undies in a bunch over this. You staying up for the "skinny repeal" of Obamacare Vote-O-Rama tonight Tom?

Also he just banned transgender from ANY military service via tweet. Even those deployed the lying moron. Suring the campaign he was the best friend they ever had, but it's now just red meat for the right wing crowd that's PO'd about him bad mouthing Sessions.

No ;the idiots like all of Obamacare's freebies and want to do away with the stuff in Obamacare that pay for it . They are going to end up giving massives subsidies to cover the cost which makes their plan more socialist than Obamacare is now.

I knew all along that herr Donald favored socialist medical solutions . It is not shocking ;but disappointing that the majority of the Senate Repubics who voted to repeal when they knew their vote was symbolic ,are trying to find a weasel way out .

I don't have an opinion about transformers in the military.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Roi0QFCcPQc/WDfLACC4CPI/AAAAAAAAJ_c/oqoM0mc_zoEgp0ygVXbiSnOOlZdmbvSpwCLcB/s320/klinger.jpg (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Roi0QFCcPQc/WDfLACC4CPI/AAAAAAAAJ_c/oqoM0mc_zoEgp0ygVXbiSnOOlZdmbvSpwCLcB/s1600/klinger.jpg)
Trump finally let's Klinger go home.

The skinny bill failed last night. Thank you Mr. Maverick.

yea thanks . It's the most important contribution he's made for the Repubics and he'll never understand why .

I suspected there was method in his madness of showing up in public yesterday.

He wants to grab the mantle as the new 'Lion of the Senate '. The Dems love him when he is 'the maverick' . That did not stop them from defaming him during the 2008 campaign.
What he is is the prototypical beltway Repubic who's only quarellel with the Dems is that he thinks the Repubs could be better managers of the nanny-state. Well they have more than once disproved that notion. Notice that it has been years since any of the Repubic leadership has mentioned the debt as a serious issue. They pay lip service to it ,which means their interest is in slightly restricting the growth ...which if I translate that into DEM speak means :'draconian cuts '.

McCain does his 6 year stint as a go along to get along with the Dems Senator ;and then in year 6 campaigns as a hardcore conservative . The idiots in his state buy into his act and have made him a lifer . So he knows that even though for years he voted to repeal Obamacare ;he'll never vote against it when the votes actually count.

Just saw a tweet ....so can't verify . The tweet says "McCain was heard laughing w Dems and remarked, "Lets see Donald make America great again now""

That would not surprise me . McCain sent a staffer to London to pick up the Steele dossier so he could leak it .That is undeniable .McCain was rightly chaffed by herr Donald's comments about him on the campaign. McCain can obviously hold a grudge .

I saw them huddled together on CSpan last night right before he gave the bill a thumbs down. Even Mitch knows he saved the repubics arse on this one, because despite the agonizing humiliation of defeat, this was a lousy unpopular bill, that did nothing to improve the lives of their constituents. Just the opposite is true and destroyed the private insurance market, more than Trump is already doing.

Reince is out as chief of staff, Kelly is IN!

But they don't know why they were saved . by this vote . Trump wants the private insurance market destroyed more than the emperor ever did.

Reince is a moron. I don't cry a tear for him . I just don't like the way the foul mouthed communications director accomplished his task on the night of long knives .

Anthony Scaramucci Called Me to Unload About White House Leakers, Reince Priebus, and Steve Bannon | The New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/anthony-scaramucci-called-me-to-unload-about-white-house-leakers-reince-priebus-and-steve-bannon)

I don't cry a tear for him . I just don't like the way the foul mouthed communications director accomplished his task on the night of long knives.
And Mooch's wife is now divorcing him.

What is the Christian Right saying about his potty-mouth verbalizations?

I don't like it .Our public discourse has gotten cruder over the years . But in the last few years it has been a national disgrace (although it is probably true that in the past ,the press had the good sense to not quote every vulgarity ).It is not just Scaramooch (can you do the fandango) . It is pols like Kristen Gillibrand thinking it is perfectly ok to lob F bombs throughout a public event .

I'm hoping that Christians adopt this :
http://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2017/july/politics-election-church-trump-evangelicals.html?share=RvlcBzTjEfVbC8uV9GeJ3mot1D HLX5ya

Mooch is doing EXACTLY what he accused Bannon of doing. (No, I won't quote him.)

You want bizairre, apparently Pastor Rodney Howard-browne has gone public saying a 20 year veteren representative told him Trump would be removed suddenly, he has been interviewed by the Secret Service but declined to give the representatives name but no doubt he could be identified by time and date of their meeting

https://www.intellihub.com/secret-service-visits-pastor-who-exposed-deep-state-coup-against-trump/

The pastor was on Alex Jones radio show .That alone makes this black helicopter and tin foil hat territory . There are 4 Republicans currently serving from the class of 1997 . Shouldn't be too hard to prove the pastor is full of shat .

Just discussing this puts you in black helicopter territory

Steve Bannon has been fired! Will he take this lying down? Has the war started?

Steve Bannon has been fired! Will he take this lying down? Has the war started?

Nothing bizzaire about that excepting that he lasted as long as he did. No place for two egos in the WH

The answer is no .....he already went back to Breitbart and he left his pompoms at the White House. Now Trump is left almost exclusively with Democrat advisors ....Jared ,Ivanka ,Gary Cohen.It won't be long before General Kelly and Sebastian Gorka are forced out .

The answer is no .....he already went back to Breitbart and he left his pompoms at the White House. Now Trump is left almost exclusively with Democrat advisors ....Jared ,Ivanka ,Gary Cohen.It won't be long before General Kelly and Sebastian Gorka are forced out .

Yes all Kelly has to do is attempt to fire one of the family

The White House is starting to look just like the Trump family business. Can't wait for the right wing noise machine to choose which side they are on. Bannon will need every dollar his benefactor the Mercers can give him, and Trump will still want his cut. While Bannon the Barbarian looms at the front gate, the debt ceiling, and the budget, looms over the horizon.

since when do the Dems care about going over budget ? Their idea of draconian cuts is a slight decrease in the rate of spending increases .

Dems don't control the budget, repubs do. Expect RESISTANCE to whatever crap repubs try to pull.