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tomder55
Jun 17, 2017, 05:43 AM
If Comey thought Trump committed obstruction on Feb 14, why tell Congress he's not suspect on March 20, and tell Trump same thing March 30?

talaniman
Jun 17, 2017, 06:04 AM
You get a guy like Trump, you stay cool and listen alertly to what he says and does and take note. That's what Comey did and what a good investigator does. Gather evidence until the right time.

Give a fool enough rope and he will hang himself. BRAVO Comey, and full disclosure, I am NOT Comey's biggest fan... not by a long shot.

tomder55
Jun 17, 2017, 06:57 AM
I am NOT Comey's biggest fan... not by a long shot.



you shouldn't be . He built a career by creating false obstruction cases .Being from the area where he cut his teeth ,I recall some of them. For years he was after a banker named Frank Quattrone . When he couldn't build a case against him ;Comey nailed him with obstruction charges over an email(you got that ? A single email ;not a server and thousands of emails) .Comey made false statements about "intent " (sound familiar ?) Quattrone was convicted on the charges Comey made . His conviction was over turned in 2006 . He has since set up the Quattrone Center at Penn Law for other victims of prosecutorial abuse .
https://www.law.upenn.edu/institutes/quattronecenter/

Martha Stewart . Remember her ? Comey tried to get her for insider trading . But he soon realized those charges had no merit . Still he kept his investigation open until she made statements to investigators he could turn into charges . And he did charge her for making 'false statements ' .She was convicted in essence for misleading investigators by denying committing a crime she did not commit . She served 5 months in Federal Prison.

You already know about the injustice served to Scooter Libby for not helping Comey's attempt to nail VP Cheney . So I'll move on to the guy who Comey was convinced was behind the anthrax attacks after 9-11. Dr Steven Hatfill .(Robert Mueller was in on this debacle too) .Even though Hatfill was an implausible suspect from the beginning ,they went after him with the dogged persuit of Inspector Javert (or was it Clouseau ?) .( The real person who did the anthrax murders was a Fort Detrick scientist named Bruce Edwards Ivins ) .Comey and Mueller had absolutely no evidence against Hatfill and yet zeroed in on him as the primary suspect .How did they know ? Well they brought in some anthrax sniffing dogs on the case .Hatfill petted them and they responded favorably . That was all Comey and Mueller needed . The long and short of this case was that Ivins committed suicide when investigators got close to him and the government paid Hatfill almost $6 million in legal settlements .

talaniman
Jun 19, 2017, 06:26 AM
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tomder55
Jun 19, 2017, 06:45 AM
The person who is supposed to give legal advice to the President recused himself . He should be fired . The incompetent Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein should also be fired for appointing Mueller as a special counsel.

talaniman
Jun 19, 2017, 06:52 AM
The lawyer who defended Trump this weekend on the news shows, should be fired too! Firing Trump would end all this scandal and drama in my opinion. Then we could focus on Paul and Mitch and the boys getting their walking papers.

tomder55
Jun 19, 2017, 06:56 AM
Find something he did wrong first (besides having no clue how to be a President). I think there is more of a chance of Loretta Lynch being charged than Trump being impeached .

talaniman
Jun 19, 2017, 07:10 AM
Finding something he did wrong is the easy part LOL, getting the repubs to make a move in that impeach direction, is an impossible dream I know, but as long as blabbermouth keeps talking despite the advice of EVERYBODY, then there is cause for hope.

I can't believe Sekulow said Trump wasn't notified of being under investigations so he isn't. Some lawyer. I can't remember everybody in an administration hiring a lawyer, and even weirder, the lawyers have lawyers?

What?

tomder55
Jun 19, 2017, 08:49 AM
I would hire lawyers . The swamp people are in attack mode ;and everyone in the administration is a target . Mueller it appears ;according to leaks ,is investigating Kushner's business dealings . That is a blatant way to get at Trump indirectly by going after his family .

As far as Sekulow saying what he did ? I believe it . Trump was, as usual ,over-reacting to the Slimes and co. reporting Mueller had Trump under investigation. Where did they get that from ? Does Meuller not have control of his investigation already ? Did Mueller approve a leak from his group ? The last official word Anyone got was Comey's testimony where he said Trump wasn't the subject of an investigation .

talaniman
Jun 19, 2017, 09:07 AM
Geeez Tom, the Dufus said on national TV Comey was fired to get the pressure of the Russian investigation off his back. What more do you need if straight out the horses mouth isn't enough? All this other stuff is just speculation and fluff and spin.

smoothy
Jun 19, 2017, 09:07 AM
Muller is a partisan hack, and most of his "People" are Clinton Cronies bought and paid for by the Clinton Crime family. This is purely a partisan witch hunt. And they have already as much as admitted that.

Comey and the Democrats seem to fail to grasp....was not in a career position...and he wasn't even appointed by Trump..he was a holdover and like an AT WILL employee, could be terminated at any time for any reason....in fact an appointee has even fewer "rights" than an AT WILL employee has.

talaniman
Jun 19, 2017, 09:40 AM
So what? Every time the Dufus in chief opens his mouth somebody should stuff something in it. Maybe then he would figure out to shut the hell up! That may not stop his lying about any and every thing but it may help keep the fool out of JAIL!

tomder55
Jun 19, 2017, 09:42 AM
Geeez Tom, the Dufus said on national TV Comey was fired to get the pressure of the Russian investigation off his back. What more do you need if straight out the horses mouth isn't enough? All this other stuff is just speculation and fluff and spin.
like I said ;
Find something he did wrong first (besides having no clue how to be a President). All he did making that statement was more running of the mouth .
He fired Comey because Comey wasn't sufficiently interested in uncovering the source of the press leaks and other sabotage by the permanent bureaucracy . Trump defended Flynn ;who has been the target of the intelligence community since he exposed the emperor's failed policies in the ME lead to the creation of ISIS.
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/07/01/obama-and-the-dia-islamic-state-memo-what-trump-gets-right/

As you know ,that was a key Trump talking point during the campaign .

As for the whole Russian collusion ......it is a McGuffin(an object, event, or character in a film or story that serves to set and keep the plot in motion despite usually lacking intrinsic importance) .There is nothing there there .The narrative is designed to create land mines that herr Donald to date seems prone to step on. The aim is not to take down Trump because of Russian collusion . The aim is to take down Trump by any means necessary .If they can concoct a phony obstruction case ;tanto mejor .

As Loretta Lynch is now aware ;this course assumes some big risks. They had better hope they succeed in their cold coup . The intelligence leaks alone are probably sufficient grounds to put several dozen senior officials in federal prison for a long time . They charted this course . I don't believe there is any turning back.

But they will not succeed unless they get the electorate in flyover country to turn on Trump. All they are doing so far is making him a martyr.

talaniman
Jun 19, 2017, 09:50 AM
There is nothing there there.

"Trust but verify!/King Ronald Reagan.


The narrative is designed to create land mines that herr Donald to date seems prone to step on. The aim is not to take down Trump because of Russian collusion . The aim is to take down Trump by any means necessary

No argument there from me! 8D

When, and IF you stamp out ISIS, you will still have a whole bunch of others to deal with, many that came before Obama. That's just human history.

What a world huh? Plenty of blame for everybody.

tomder55
Jun 19, 2017, 10:07 AM
As he keeps on responding to 'fake news ' as if it were true ;he confirms it's fake validity .