View Full Version : None Dare Call It Treason
Athos
May 25, 2017, 04:31 PM
The orangheheaded thug reveals the location of two nuclear submarines to the Phillipine president. The location of these subs is among the most highly kept secrets in the entire US arsenal. Yes, the locations weren't pinpointed, but I can guarantee you that the Russians were extremely delighted to get that piece of information. Not to speak of the Chinese.
Then he stupidly (as a matter of braggadocio ?) reveals that an Israeli agent is undercover in Syria in a location easily determined. The Mossad has to pull the agent fearing for his life.
If this is not treason - no doubt unintentional - I don't know what is. Gross stupidity?
talaniman
May 25, 2017, 05:45 PM
Did you see the Dufus push his way to the front to get his camera time at the NATO meeting? Was that the perfect cap for that speech he gave? Keep talking Orange Man, God don't like ugly, and it matters not what name you call him by.
paraclete
May 25, 2017, 06:27 PM
He's just a ranga and everyday proves it more and more
Athos
May 25, 2017, 07:29 PM
Did you see the Dufus push his way to the front to get his camera time at the NATO meeting? Was that the perfect cap for that speech he gave? Keep talking Orange Man, God don't like ugly, and it matters not what name you call him by.
Yes, and speaking of NATO speeches. This clown has the unmitigated gall to chastize our allies for being behind in payments or not paying the agreed on 2% of GDP. As Merkel pointed out, there are a lot of ways Germany has supported NATO that aren't figured in Trump's accounting. It's a shame for such a rich country like the USA to publicly humiliate its allies and quibble over payments.
Especially from a bozo who consistently stiffed his subcontractors on the theory that they were too small to sue him since he had a huge stable of lawyers. And his bankruptcies (4 and counting) were so egregious that he managed to stiff the banks that loaned him millions and walk away and do it all over again. There's not a bank in North America who will loan this deadbeat a penny. Enter Russia. A few bucks here, a little collusion there - hey, they love their golden-haired boy.
Lest I forget - Trump University. After cheating and conning his way to tens of thousands of dollars from ordinary folk believing this lyin' creep, he swears to fight them in court to his dying day. "I WILL NEVER GIVE IN", he proclaims. Yeah, until he gives in - to the tune of TWENTY-FIVE MILLION DOLLARS - his out-of-court settlement.
The Republican establishment has until 2018 to do something about this nut job.
paraclete
May 25, 2017, 08:52 PM
The Republican establishment has until 2018 to do something about this nut job.
I suppose you think the Obamaphiles and the Dilliaryphiles will get the job done then, eh?
Athos
May 26, 2017, 12:09 AM
I suppose you think the Obamaphiles and the Dilliaryphiles will get the job done then, eh?
Yup. Some good indicators so far including Montana's drop from a 21 point Trump/Republican advantage to last night's barely 6 points.
And maybe Gianforte will be unable to serve unless he can do it from a jail cell after assaulting a photographer half his size.
talaniman
May 26, 2017, 04:32 AM
I suppose you think the Obamaphiles and the Dilliaryphiles will get the job done then, eh?
Obama is gone, Hillary lost, and the Orange Man is a disgrace, and everybody but his wife is being investigated. It was a dumb idea to drain the swamp by bringing in more alligators.
excon
May 26, 2017, 09:53 AM
Hello:
I'm still feeling the Bern..
excon
tomder55
May 28, 2017, 02:48 AM
Geeze what nonsense ! Someone leaks the transcripts of the call to Duterte ,and the foaming of the mouth commences . It doesn't matter in the least that the Navy announced the presence of the USS Michigan 4 days before the call ,and the USS Cheyenne 2 days before the call .There I named the subs !!! I must be committing treason too .
USS Michigan Visits Busan, Strengthens Partnership with ROK Navy (http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100072)
Cheyenne visits Sasebo during Indo-Asia-Pacific Deployment (http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100221)
The Navy even has a web page that tells where the fleet is deployed .
News Articles | Commander, Submarine Force, U.S. Pacific Fleet | COMSUBPAC (http://www.csp.navy.mil/Media/News-Articles/)
It would in fact be almost impossible to keep this information a secret . Even submarines do port of call visits ,and sailors get the time to make visits in these port calls . I don't even understand why you would want to keep it a secret . Forward deployed assets don't do much for deterrence if the potential adversary doesn't know they are near . Btw ,the rotation of the 2 subs into the region was planned months ago.
excon
May 28, 2017, 05:44 AM
Geeze what nonsense ! Someone leaks the transcripts of the call to Duterte ,and the foaming of the mouth commences . It doesn't matter in the least that the Navy announced the presence of the USS Michigan 4 days before the call ,and the USS Cheyenne 2 days before the call .There I named the subs !!! I must be committing treason too .Hello tom:
Yeah, you probably are... Look.. The radio call sign of my ship was "confidential".. I SEE that the name has been published. I KNOW people know it.. But, that changes NOTHING about my promise to KEEP my nations secrets, and that promise NEVER expires..
excon
talaniman
May 28, 2017, 06:32 AM
All this yakkety yak is pointless sense it's what's found in the investigation that counts, and what's done based on those finding. Since everything Orangeman and his minions is dumb or stupid (RE:Crazy as hell) the public and press will go nuts!
It sure is fun to watch the clumsy orange dufus bully get blasted for all the stuff he and his minions do though.
tomder55
May 28, 2017, 12:57 PM
The Navy has been publishing the deployment of it's assets for years . This is nothing new . Here ....you want to know what every Aircraft carrier is up to ?
CV Locations (http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html)
paraclete
May 28, 2017, 05:13 PM
It tells us where they might be not what they are up to, Tom, for example the Carl Vison was participating in war games in Australian waters, this was not noted
talaniman
May 28, 2017, 06:26 PM
I don't suppose either of you is registered as foreign spies are you? Loose lips sink ships, or is that link FAKE NEWS Tom?
Wondergirl
May 28, 2017, 06:42 PM
I don't suppose either of you is registered as foreign spies are you? Loose lips sink ships, or is that link FAKE NEWS Tom?
go navy dot jp???? jp = japan
paraclete
May 28, 2017, 07:39 PM
I don't suppose either of you is registered as foreign spies are you? Loose lips sink ships, or is that link FAKE NEWS Tom?
Foreign, in the context of the US, spy, no.
If the US provides the information, then it cannot be spying, I'm sure it is much more difficult in my country to ascertain the deployment of military assets, excepting when there is scandal, as there is at the moment, where our two largest vessels are laid up in dry dock
paraclete
May 30, 2017, 09:21 PM
Donald Trump: Russia scandal plagues President amid return from Europe and Middle East (http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/russia-scandal-plagues-donald-trump-amid-return-from-europe-and-middle-east/news-story/ed3c0fffe332e5f8ff704b997a2e5892)
It seems when Donald can't get his own way it depresses him, it seems that you just can't do what ever you want without that pesky media getting on your back. The answer of course is to have less to do with the media, don't tell them anything, don't answer their questions, after all who are they to question such an exalted personage?
This is a tried an true strategy, when asked about a crisis, you say what crisis? There is no crisis, you are making this up
smoothy
May 31, 2017, 04:47 AM
"orangehead thug" as opposed to Obozo the Thug?. get serious or we call Dudley Do-Right in on you Canucks... Obummer committed Treason, Hillary Committed Treason... Trump hasn't done squat.. so get over yourselves... or check yourselves into therapy.
talaniman
May 31, 2017, 06:25 AM
http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/danzcolorplus8343-668x501.jpg
tomder55
May 31, 2017, 02:07 PM
Clete except for the compliant press ;the Compost ,slimes , NBC affiliates etc . No one in the country is paying attention . The newspapers in the heartlands put a blurb in the middle pages . The hard working man holding 2 jobs and raising a family comes home to find out that Kushner contacted the Russians while the government was in transition ;shrugs his shoulders and says 'so what ' ? Maybe he recalls that the emperor established back channel contacts with the 12ers in Tehran in 2008 to start the ball rolling towards the end of non-proliferation .
So let me get this straight ..... The presumed accusations is that Trump and the Ruskies colluded to steal the election . But AFTER the elections Trump has to establish back channel communications with them ? The timeline makes no sense.
Sununu vs. CNN's Camerota On Russia Investigation: "How Much Crow Are You Going To Eat?" | Video | RealClearPolitics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/30/sununu_vs_cnns_camerota_on_russia_investigation_ho w_much_crow_are_you_going_to_eat.html)
talaniman
May 31, 2017, 03:21 PM
I can wait for Kushner's explanation and it better be good but don't compare Obama's back channel organized through the proper government people to Jared super secret attempts.
I saw that Sununu interview the other morning and he is still a right wing partisan talking head. His opinion means NOTHING! It wasn't even good spin.
tomder55
May 31, 2017, 04:37 PM
hmm ;organized through the proper government people .Do you mean like when the swimmer tried to collude with the Soviets to defeat Reagan ?
https://spectator.org/39381_ted-kennedys-kgb-correspondence/
The emperor was not President so how exactly did he use proper government people to contact the Iranians (who we had no relationship with at the time )?The truth is that the Emperor sent William Miller, a former diplomat under Bill Clinton, to Iran to tell that government should Obama win the 2008 election—there will be friendlier terms.At the time Miller was not a government employee and certainly was not a diplomat under the Bush Presidency . Yeah it was different . The Iranians were trying to acquire nukes . You guys are something else. If Evita had done the same thing you would be saying that she took the initiative to reset her reset .