From a factual study of Trump's activities.




He rescinded an Obama regulation requiring utilities to reduce CO2 emissions 30% by 2050
He ordered the EPA to change a rule giving it authority to regulate pollution of streams and ponds
He relieved companies of the duty to report labor law violations when bidding on federal contracts
He allowed states to make up their own rules for drug testing applicants for unemployment benefits
He made it easier for the mentally ill to buy guns
He signed a bill allowing Internet providers to sell data about their users' browsing habits
He killed a rule prohibiting coal mines from dumping wastes into streams
He has started the procedure for preventing 4 million workers from getting paid overtime


Then there was his strange self-congratulations when he mismanaged the military in Yemen and Syria, and took credit for Afghanistan when he was totally unaware of what was happening in that country.

Now it's North Korea - one madman facing another madman.

Yada yada yada, Blah blah blah. Trump is responsible for Erectile Dysfunction of most of the left leaners too I suppose.

LOL Double Yada yada yada Snowflakes.

You forgot Athos, how much time he spends at his golf course with his friends. You know the ones he doubled his membership fees on.

You forgot Athos, how much time he spends at his golf course with his friends. You know the ones he doubled his membership fees on.

Good point, Tal. And the three million bucks he costs taxpayers every time he goes golfing in Florida. After bashing Obama for occasional golfing. The hypocrisy of Trump is endless.

The hypocrisy of Trump is endless.

Why are you singling out Dump, There is a saying that it is hard to drain the swamp when you are up to your arse in alligators, well Dump is up to his arse in hypocrites. You surely expected no less

Hello A:

1) Repeal and replace Obamacare - FAILED

2) Building a wall - NO

3) Infrastructure - NADA

4) Tax Reform - NOT happening

5) Muslim ban - STOPPED

6) Gorsuch appointed - 1 outta 6 ain't bad.

excon

smoothy, caton, Do you have anything factual to refute any of the points Athos made? Personally, I disagree with at least one of those points, but the others are factual.

I did not "Hear The Fat Lady Sing".

What does a fat lady singing have to do with the policies, practices, words and actions of this newly elected bully and liar?

What does a fat lady singing have to do with the policies, practices, words and actions of this newly elected bully and liar?

Nothing, which is why I ignored that inane response.

No more inane than the prating that "you know it alls" keep putting forth.

I don't profess to know it all. But I deal in verifiable facts. I don't see anything inane about the other posts in this thread. If you can provide some verifiable facts to disprove that I will be glad to hear them and respond appropriately.

A Good Plan
This makes way too much sense to be passed. But at least we can make our wishes known.



Trump is asking everyone to forward this email to a minimum of 20 people, and to ask each of those to do likewise.

In three days, most people in the United States will have the message. This is an idea that should be passed around.

The TRUMP Rule

Let's see if



 congress understands what people pressure is all about.

Salary of retired US Presidents .. . . . .. . . . . .. . $180,000 FOR LIFE.

Salary of House/Senate members .. . . . .. . . . $174,000 FOR LIFE. This is stupid

Salary of Speaker of the House .. . . . .. . . . . $223,500 FOR LIFE. This is really stupid

Salary of Majority / Minority Leaders . . .. . . . . $193,400 FOR LIFE. Stupid

Average Salary of a teacher . . .. . . . .. . . . . .. .$40,065

Average Salary of a deployed Soldier . . .. . . .. $38,000

Here’s where the cuts should be made!

TRUMP, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling:

"I could end the deficit in five minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election".







The 26th Amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only three months and eight days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971 - before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year or less to become the law of the land - all because of public pressure. Trump is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.

In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2017

1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman/woman should collect a salary while in office and receive no pay when they're out of office.

2. Congress (past, present, & future) participates in Social Security.

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 3/1/17. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen/women.

Congress made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and go back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people, then it will only take three days for most people in the U.S. to receive the message. It's time!

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!

Pass it on. Let's drain the swamp!

Trump didn't advance this plan Warren Buffet did, in 2011 https://www.truthorfiction.com/buffet-rule/,

Picky, Picky I guess you don't agree with any of it as an Ideologue?

Did FBI Let Islamists Attack a Texas Cartoon Contest?


Not long after the brutal 2015 slaying of 11 Charlie Hebdo employees in Paris, Americans were shocked when two men – Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi – opened fire on a “Draw Mohammad” cartoon contest in Garland, Texas. The attack attracted an enormous amount of national coverage in relation to its success; Soofi and Simpson killed no one.
The outsized coverage came about as a result of two factors: The controversial “anti-Islam” event being targeted and the fact that the attack was the first example of ISIS-inspired terrorism inside the United States.
But now the attack is in the headlines for a new reason: Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wi), who chairs the Homeland Security and Government Affairs committee, is launching an investigation into what the FBI knew prior to the shooting.
Johnson said he learned from CBS’s “60 Minutes” that the FBI had been monitoring the terrorists for years, a revelation that did not match what Bureau officials told him in the wake of the attack.
“It is concerning that when I wrote to the FBI and Department of Justice, they never told me about the fact that they had some FBI asset, whether it was an agent or informant, tailing Soofi and Simpson,” Johnson told Fox News.
“Why didn’t they intervene?” he asked. “As a member of the Senate oversight committee, I think these agencies should be honest when we actually ask them the questions. But it begs the question, what was the FBI doing in Garland, and why wasn’t the agency direct with me when we first started writing letters about this back in 2015?”
From the Fox News report:
Johnson is referring to two individuals who had prior contact with the shooters. One was a paid FBI informant, the other an FBI undercover agent.
Ten days before the attack Simpson hooked up with an FBI undercover informant via the internet, according to an FBI affidavit filed by Agent Shawn Scott Hare in August 2016. The affidavit was filed in a case against Erick Jamal Hendricks, a North Carolina man charged with conspiring to provide material support to the Islamic State.
The affidavit reveals the FBI was aware on May 2, the day before the attack, that Soofi and Simpson were headed to Garland to attend the Draw the Prophet Muhammad Event.

The criminal complaint shows that the FBI’s informant was at the event, parked directly behind the two terrorists, when they opened fire on the contest.
“All I know is we don’t have the straight story from the FBI,” Johnson said. “We are just so fortunate that local law enforcement was able to take care of the situation to prevent another mass attack. This was a real tragedy averted.”


Despite incontrovertible evidence that the FBI had an insider on the scene, the Bureau’s press office told Fox News that they had “no advance knowledge of a plot to attack the cartoon drawing contest.”

tFunny, that was BT Before Trump could it be the FBI is playing loose and dirty?

And what has that got to do with post that started this thread?

U.S. Rejects Exxon Mobil Bid for Waiver on Russia Sanctions (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/21/business/energy-environment/treasury-exxon-mobil-sanctions-waiver.html?src=mv)
New York Times · 9 hours ago
HOUSTON — The Trump administration delivered a setback to Exxon Mobil on Friday, announcing that it would not grant the oil giant a waiver from sanctions against …

I thought this thread was about the "Good, the Ugly and the Bad" of Trump.

Trump would be pretty stupid to blatantly grant Exxon a waiver now wouldn't he? Even his fellow repubs would have had his arse for lunch..

You know he is going to grant a waiver to Exxon. You guys have already declared him "pretty stupid". So there goes the element of surprise.

Trump isn't stupid but he thinks everybody else is. That's why he can tell us how great he is, and how much he has done already.

Trump isn't stupid but he thinks everybody else is.

It's catching. Just look at the posts from the Trump supporters in this very thread.

I rest my case.

http://www.motherjones.com/files/blog_trump_100_days_nope.gif

Lyin' Trump.

The bozo even ADMITS to lying as part of his strategy. He lied to all those poor unemployed workers in the rust belt, saying he would guarantee they would get their jobs back. He lied to get their vote. Once he got what he wanted, he bailed. He's been doing that for 40 years.

Lyin' Trump.

Maybe we get to tell repubs and Trump voters "I told you so". I did after Bush! ;)

Donald Trump's China 'Currency Manipulator' Reversal and Other Flip Flops | National Review (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446825/donald-trump-china-currency-manipulator-reversal-nato-mexico-wall?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=williamson&utm_content=took)

Donald Trump's China 'Currency Manipulator' Reversal and Other Flip Flops | National Review (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446825/donald-trump-china-currency-manipulator-reversal-nato-mexico-wall?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=williamson&utm_content=took)

Must read for all here (and elsewhere).

My favorite part:

What Trump said during the campaign was, in fact, a load of nonsense deployed for the purposes of steamrolling the other side in difficult and delicate negotiations. What ... Trump’s admirers missed is that it wasn’t NATO and the Chi-Coms and Enrique Peña Nieto on the other side of the negotiating table getting hornswoggled.

It was them. (Those who voted for Trump).

How many "stabs in the back" can a President sustain, when his own party is stabbing him in addition to the opposition party and press?

How many "stabs in the back" can a President sustain, when his own party is stabbing him in addition to the opposition party and press?
Methinks he's the one "stabbing" us, with his awful command of English, poor customer service skills, and inability to handle the workload.

11 Ways Trump Has Rolled Back Government Regulations in His First 100 Days (http://wec.news-selfreliancecentral.com/t/22894265/1645808344/6431723/0/)

As President Donald Trump reaches his 100th day in the White House on April 29, he will have worked with Congress to rescind more regulations using the Congressional Review Act
than any other president. Here's a look at the 11 regulatory rollbacks Congress has passed and Trump has signed.

Me thinks it is the Press and Rotten Congress doing the Stabbing and that includes Paul Ryan. It is rough duty when you are putting out fires most of the time.

Starting at the top of your "LIST",

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-joint-resolution/41


This joint resolution nullifies the "Disclosure of Payments by Resource Extraction Issuers" rule finalized by the Securities and Exchange Commission on July 27, 2016. (The rule, mandated under the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, requires resource extraction issuers to disclose payments made to governments for the commercial development of oil, natural gas, or minerals.)

So you think money Exxon pays under the table to foreign governments doesn't need to be disclosed?

Maybe a better question would be did you read any of these new laws yourself or are you one of those Trumpies that just swallows and thing he puts in your face?

How many "stabs in the back" can a President sustain, when his own party is stabbing him in addition to the opposition party and press? He hijacked the Republican party. Being kind is to say he is a NY limousine liberal Republican in the Nelson Rockefeller mode. That equates to a Midwest moderate /liberal Democrat in the rest of the country . He masked his true leanings with nationalist /populist rhetoric during the campaign. There was no way that the writers at 'National Review ' was going to buy his shtick .

He hijacked the Republican party. Being kind is to say he is a NY limousine liberal Republican in the Nelson Rockefeller mode. That equates to a Midwest moderate /liberal Democrat in the rest of the country . He masked his true leanings with nationalist /populist rhetoric during the campaign. There was no way that the writers at 'National Review ' was going to buy his shtick .

Everything points to his liberal agenda, but then you could see it coming. What has he said he will do

pull back on environmental controls, not very liberal
pull back on trade treaties, not very liberal
increase military spending, not very liberal
reduce taxes, not very liberal
abandon Obamacare, not very liberal

but then you have to examine what the word liberal means, it might not apply to Trump who obviously wants some big spending programs of his own, big wall, big inferstucture, big deportations, big military

liberal


1.favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2.(often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3.of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/liberalism), especially the freedom of the individual and governmental guarantees of individual rights and liberties.
4.favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
5.favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression:a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.
6.of or relating to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
7.free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant:




somehow I don't see Dump in there, do you

He lied and deceived on many of the issues that differentiate . Until the election he adored Evita and the Clintoons . He was for gun control ;abortion on demand ,supported funding Planned Parenthood ,universal health care . Trumps agrees with the libs that the government has the arbitrary right to seize private property . He openly supported government giveaways in the form of ethanol subsidies . As noted he is a huuuuuggge fan of using taxpayer money on big public works projects to "create jobs" and "stimulate the economy " . The Tea Party arose in opposition to the stimulus, the auto bailouts, and the bank bailouts. Trump supported all 3 . The candidates who were opposed to all the trade deals was socialist Bolshevik Bernie and Trump. The only place he separates from liberal doctrine is immigration ,corporate taxes ,and reductions in regulations .... all laudable ;but hardly enough to call him conservative .

Trump is a true capitalist and has no problem giving the repubs something to get what he wants. No that doesn't mean the great unwashed masses who voted for him, who may get a buck after he gets his, or they might not. If working with dems to make MO" money is what he needs to do, he surely will.

Don't be distracted by the big talk and bluster because since the real story is what the congress is passing and what Trump signs.

PAY attention!!

Trump is a true capitalist and has no problem giving the repubs something to get what he wants. No that doesn't mean the great unwashed masses who voted for him, who may get a buck after he gets his, or they might not. If working with dems to make MO" money is what he needs to do, he surely will.

Don't be distracted by the big talk and bluster because since the real story is what the congress is passing and what Trump signs.

PAY attention!!

I expect Dump to sign whatever is put in front of him, after all that is what he is there for. But Tal, is your congress passing anything or has factionalism taken over?


hardly enough to call him conservative .

No he isn't for the establishment, said as much in the draining the swamp comments and he does want change, he wants america to be great again, whatever that means; when you have the largest economy and the largest military

See post 31 and 32.


No he isn't for the establishment, said as much in the draining the swamp comments and he does want change, he wants america to be great again, whatever that means; when you have the largest economy and the largest military

He NEEDS the establishment and is now part of it. I can't believe you fell for his campaign promises/slogans TOO!? The lying bully will say and do anything to look good and get what he wants.

You'll see.

See post 31 and 32.



He NEEDS the establishment and is now part of it. I can't believe you fell for his campaign promises/slogans TOO!? The lying bully will say and do anything to look good and get what he wants.

You'll see.

You think I fell for him, haven't I been saying the same thing, Look Tal from where I stand the whole thing looks like a circus with the clown act in play. You can't find better comedy these days

I'm just waiting for CVille to comeback and defend the republican agenda. That's what Trump is distracting us from while the lame stream talking heads are stuck on the daily BS! Just like the NORK's have the government they deserve, on many levels, so do we in the USA.

BREAKING NEWS

The guy that chanted "lock her up" referring to Hillary, may get locked up himself!

Michael Flynn’s troubles mount | TheHill (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/330571-michael-flynns-troubles-mount)

MORE BREAKING NEWS

A federal judge has just blocked Trump from with holding federal money to so called sanctuary cities.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/2017/04/25/c9e212c8-29f7-11e7-b605-33413c691853_story.html?utm_term=.0909c25dbf37

Why doesn't he just make congress do their job and pass a law?

MORE BREAKING NEWS

A federal judge has just blocked Trump from with holding federal money to so called sanctuary cities.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/2017/04/25/c9e212c8-29f7-11e7-b605-33413c691853_story.html?utm_term=.0909c25dbf37

Why doesn't he just make congress do their job and pass a law?

Because Trump does not understand how the Federal Government works. He believes he is a corporate CEO and he can do anything he wants. He doesn't understand checks and Balances, he doesn't understand that there are 3 branches of government each with their own powers and limitations. In other words he doesn't understand the Constitution he swore to uphold.

Why doesn't he just make congress do their job and pass a law? Because there are already laws that were not being enforced ;or actively obstructed with at the local level.


Dems are back to their old antebellum ways thinking that they can nullify the law when they don't like it .

It's not nullification when you as a state must prioritize how you use your own resources. Nor out of bounds when you challenge executive authority over those resources. Last I checked even those sanctuary cities were comply with the federal law and aiding ICE even if they won't stop and frisk and detain the Hispanics to check for proof of citizenship like Herr Donald wants them too.

No worries though there won't be any federal money left after Trump and his corporate cronies pilfer the treasury yet again with his tax cuts for themselves.

Congress already passed immigration laws that give the Presidency broad powers enforcing immigration law. .... ie ;8 U.S.C. §1182 (f) to suspend the entry of any aliens or class of aliens into the U.S. if he believes it “would be detrimental to the interests of the United States.”

8 U.S.C. §1373 prohibits states and local jurisdictions from preventing their law enforcement officials from exchanging information with federal officials on the citizenship status of individuals they have arrested or detained. SCOTUS upheld this in 2012 (see Arizona v US) .Sec. 1373 doesn’t force local law enforcement officials to notify federal officials when they detain an illegal alien; But it clearly says that local governments can’t ban law enforcement officials from doing so (which San Francisco and other sanctuary cities do in their codes ) .

This is no different than states losing a portion of their highway funds if they lower the drinking age below 21. (South Dakota v Dole) . Sessions is saying that if a state or local government doesn't cooperate with federal law enforcement regarding immigration then they lose out on Justice Dept discretionary grants . Nothing close to losing highway funds ;or even worse the Obamacare provision that bribed states with Medicaid funds if they towed the line .As I recall ,you were in favor of that type of coercion by the Federal Government then.

Yes I was and still am since as it turned out SCOTUS said the state compliance for Medicaid funding was OPTIONAL not mandatory.

We may get to see what SCOTUS rules on Trump's stuff.

Carrots and sticks anyway you spin it ..... Rewards or penalties .

Both sides use carrots and sticks but we wait to see what SCOTUS and Trumps new tiebreaker says.

All right now we have the official list of achievements in the first 100 days, pretty impressive; he can do all of this with no legislation

He bombed Syria
He bombed Afghanistan
He bombed Yemen
He upset NK

He announced many things and signed many executive orders and pieces of legislation that just happened to be hanging around

He met many world leaders, played many rounds of golf, racked up more air miles than anyone without leaving the country

He stuffed up trade treaties, bought some F35

He addressed the Senators to pull them into line

I expect this is progress, but no progress on health care, the wall, friendship with Russia

Don't be so distracted Clete. I have been telling you over and over again what Trump was really about, and he has done nothing to change that so please pay attention this is your final warning.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/danzcolorplus8315-668x501.jpg
Take it to the bank!

friendship with Russia ? 100 days ago everyone was calling him Putin's poodle. lol.

Now if only Vlad would get with the program

Trump's achievement ? Evita isn't President

Trump's achievement ? Evita isn't President

Yes, Tom, that could be considered the achievement of the decade, your economy is being muscled into activity and who knows he may actually managed to reform your taxation system