Hello:

Yeah, that.

excon

Hello, excon --

Trump wanted a military parade for his inauguration. He didn't get one. Now, a war with Syria or NK means he can line up his tanks and bazookas and nuclear warheads, plus set up and arrange his army guys in battle formations. And yes, another deflection from his problems at home.

Angry and scared,
WG

He's not in trouble ;at least not due to all the bs charges of Russian influence. The scandal has gone to where it had to go ;the emperor's government politicizing intelligence and using those agencies of government against political rivals . It's the Obots that are going down.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel

Isn't that the way presidents bail themselves out? In trouble in national policy, have a war, become a war time President, it has to be good for another term

If I take him at his word, he wants Putty to take care of Syria ,and China to deal with the NORKS. He wants to spend money on his Yuuuuuggeeee porkulus deux infrastructure Keynesian pump priming . A war would be a distraction.

He's not in trouble yet ;and won't be until his opponents concentrate on the real things that can derail him .That would be his many conflicts of interests; not this phony Russia thing

If I take him at his word, he wants Putty to take care of Syria ,and China to deal with the NORKS. He wants to spend money on his Yuuuuuggeeee porkulus deux infrastructure Keynesian pump priming . A war would be a distraction.

He's not in trouble yet ;and won't be until his opponents concentrate on the real things that can derail him .That would be his many conflicts of interests; not this phony Russia thing

Tom, it is unlikely Putin will take care of Syria, he will allow Assad to do as he pleases and he has grown bolder with the Russian Bear at his back. Vlad cannot sustain a long war any more than Dump can. The attempt to get Turkey on the ground has failed.

There is nothing wrong with some infrastructure, a wall here, a bridge there, perhaps a road to nowhere. You can't tell me there aren't parts of the country that don't need some pump priming. Think of it as nation building, every generation needs it, you can't put everything into aircraft carriers and submarines, not enough people see where their money is going, besides you need something for all those illegal workers to do

You can't tell me there aren't parts of the country that don't need some pump priming. Of course there are . America doesn't pave it's streets in gold anymore . The question is who is responsible to do it ? Why should someone in rural America living on a dirt road pay out because the NY metropolitan area wants to put another train tunnel from NJ to NYC ? Let the users pay for it .

Of course there are . America doesn't pave it's streets in gold anymore . The question is who is responsible to do it ? Why should someone in rural America living on a dirt road pay out because the NY metropolitan area wants to put another train tunnel from NJ to NYC ? Let the users pay for it .

Now Tom you know Thatcherism doesn't work, maybe you call it Reaganonomics, but it doesn't work. You make things expensive and the punters walk away. What I'm saying is everyone should have a paved road and a good bridge over that river and tax money should also be spent where it is collected, a revolutionary concept, I know. So Dump wants to build a wall and I see one concept is for that wall to be a solar collector which means it pays for itself. I'm sure Mexico loves the idea.

Tom you need an open mind, some good can come from it, and I know spending money in NYC will be close to Dumps heart, it is his home town, or close to it. But he has seen the carnage in Syria and like a good politician he can't resist, No american president has resisted the siren call for long

Trump just bombed the airfield in Syria believed to be the origin of the gas attack Tuesday.

Wish I had confidence that he knows what he's doing.

Don't worry boys you can bomb anything in Syria with impunity, hope you didn't hit any Russian planes, that might be different. We will see what comes of Dump talking to Vlad, maybe they can agree on some rules of engagement

Wish I had confidence that he knows what he's doing.
He sniffled through his recorded message--shades of his debates with Hillary.

This is decisive action that is needed to demonstrate resolve

This is decisive action that is needed to demonstrate resolve
And yet another deflection by Trump from...guess what!

I doubt Dump is deflecting anything. This is a response to a specific event. Such responses cannot wait for a do nothing UN or Congress to debate the issue. Dump is right act and apologise later if necessary

I'm not deflecting anything, and I doubt Dump is. This is a response to a specific event. Such responses cannot wait for a do nothing UN or Congress to debate the issue. Dump is right act and apologise later if necessary
Said by a friend whose opinion I respect -- "[Trump] got permission from his boss [Putin] to appear to go against Russian interests."

Well thank you for the vote of confidence, look, it is all politics, the emperor manipulating from the shadows. I doubt Dump or Vlad are really in charge.

Well Vlad is furious and promises to increase Syrian air defenses, and has suspended communications between US and Russian air strikes against ISIS.

Well Vlad is furious and promises to increase Syrian air defenses, and has suspended communications between US and Russian air strikes against ISIS.

Well he has to, doesn't he, his people are at risk, This is going to make things difficult but why didn't Dump take out the gas stocks? Maybe the wind was blowing in the wrong direction? Any way, Dump can concentrate on Daesh and be well away from the Russians

This is decisive action that is needed to demonstrate resolve



And yet another deflection by Trump from...guess what!



It was decisive as corporal punishment is . It did nothing to change the strategic equation if it is a one off. If it's a one off ,it's more like Clintoon's bombing of an aspirin factory .


Said by a friend whose opinion I respect -- "[Trump] got permission from his boss [Putin] to appear to go against Russian interests." nonsense ;the only concession made to Putty was to let him know to get Russian assets out of the air base .


Well Vlad is furious and promises to increase Syrian air defenses, and has suspended communications between US and Russian air strikes against ISIS.
We could've made a difference if we acted 6 years ago.We could've grounded Assad's air force and set up no fly zones . Now the only way that will happen is if there is cooperation between Putty and herr Donald ....... and that aint happening despite all the tin foil hat theories about the election.


Well Vlad is furious and promises to increase Syrian air defenses, and has suspended communications between US and Russian air strikes against ISIS.
We could've made a difference if we acted 6 years ago.We could've grounded Assad's air force and set up no fly zones . Now the only way that will happen is if there is cooperation between Putty and herr Donald ....... and that aint happening despite all the tin foil hat theories about the election.

How do 3 events this week connect to the Syria attack ?
1. Jared Kushner goes to Iraq Monday
2.Jordan's King Abdullah II and his wife, Queen Rania,visit the White House Wednesday .
3.Also Wednesday Trump removes isolationist Steve Bannon from his National Security Council .

This after the administration got criticized last week by members of Congress for going soft on Assad ,and in general ,having an incoherent Syrian policy . On Thursday March 30, Nikki Haley, and Sec State Rex Tillerson announced that the U.S. is not focused on pushing Assad out of power and that Assad’s status would be determined by the people of Syria. But the US has been doing air strikes in Syria since the beginning of Trump's term. Sen McCain and Graham were quick to jump all over those comments .

I think you missed one Tom Xi visits Dump

That happened as the attack was ongoing. He could very well be sending Xi a message related to China's seizure of neighbor's territories that now equal the size of the territory Nazi Germany seized from it's neighbors .

It could also be a distraction from the fact that nothing is going to be accomplished in the 2 days summit. I also forgot Al-Sisi's meeting with herr Donald .I can't believe he's thrilled with the attack on Syria.

The reason I mentioned the 3 events this week was because it was signaling a fundamental change in policy from the one he announced on the campaign trail. I know quite a few of his supporters that are not thrilled today.

Yes it seems he is blown in the wind, reality, perhaps. He has demonstrated he will not be isolationist, just how hawkish he will become we will see. I see Dump as a man who operates on whim. I find it hard to believe this is the first time pictures of children dying have affected him. No doubt there are many supporters who wanted the US to step back and not be interventionist, but are the US still fighting the War on Terror or not, if so, there can be no let up, no relaxation as terror doesn't take a holiday.

Tom we all know a candidate has to say certain things to get elected, politics is the art of the possible, so not all chosen policies can move forward, health care is a prime example. Dump has said many things on the road to the White House and they are waiting to hoist him on his own pitard and any rash act helps them

The message he sent was great for a photo op, but Assad will just hold back the gassing of kids, and go back to blowing them apart.

He had a lefty policy on healthcare ,and I believe he still has it .

But in foreign policy he had been consistenly anti-interventionist . Ex has one explanation for it ;'wag the dog' ...and that's possible .

But more likey the voices in his head are coming from Nat Security Advisor Gen.H. R. McMaster ;who not only purged Bannon ;but deputy national security adviser K.T. McFarland,who will be exiled to Singapore.

Hello again:

I shouldn't have used the word "OR" above.. Trump is going for a DOUBLE..

Apparently, Trump is OK with Assad barrel bombing little children.. But, if he uses chemicals again, he's got to go... Does that sound as stupid to YOU as it does me???

Plus, he's threatening that fat kid in North Korea.. I don't think that fat kid is gonna give up his nukes, and that seems to be our new policy with them...

Hold on to your azz's, people. I think Trump is gonna END the world..

excon

PS> (edited) This is what McMaster said (http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2017/04/09/exclusive-general-h-r-mcmaster-on-decision-to-strike-syria.html)on Fox this morning:

"This is -- this is a rogue regime that is now a nuclear capable regime, and President Xi and President Trump agreed that that is unacceptable, that what must happen is the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

Did I say that Trump is gonna start the big one??? I think I DID.

PPS> (edited again) A Navy battle group is headed for North Korean waters as we post..

PPPS> (edited for the last time) Does duck and cover still work??

PPPPS> (edited - I might be back) Tillerson is threatening Russia on ABC, as we post... Trump does LOVE war.. He said so. He wonders WHY we have nukes if we can't use them...

Goodby friends... You too smoothy..

Won't say goodbye yet ex, but this is brinkmanship, but then Dump is a bully and he doesn't know what to do when the other guy shouts back, thus the fleet to NK and no doubt a resupply of cruise to the med, doesn't Putin realise you have to use your old hardware sometime?

Naw, Trump won't blow up the world, but he will sure screw up the country. Don't watch Trump, watch the congress!

https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/152/15261/1526142.gif

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?status=28,29,32,33&sort=-current_status_date

Tal why would you want to watch a bunch of do nothings do nothing?

They are doing something. Rolling back a lot of health and safety regulations while the talking media heads keep repeating the Trump show nonsense.

Be that as it may Tal it cant all be bad, look what Dump has achieved, a pipeline finished, upset the whole middle east and Kim, who took his message to heart, inspired durente to take on China and has everyone talking about Syria again meanwhile about all the politicians have done is stopped a filibuster, all this while deflecting questions of russian influence by upsetting Vlad

Can the nationalist wing of Trump’s fan base survive Trump’s embrace of internationalism? Steve Bannon has appeared to lose the power struggle in the White House to Ivanka and Jared .

BTW his summit with Xi was a joke . He campaigned on immediate action on China and all he did was embrace status quo in the relations.

Reminds me of when King Reagan was elected. I never believed a word from his mouth either, but "trust but verify" sticks with me as a good idea. Of course when applied to Trump, every thing he says is "fake" and in time will be verified as such.

Pass the popcorn please, and the remote. Mark April 28th on your calendar!

Ezra Klein of the Compost and Vox has an interesting video of the Syrian conflict that almost gets it right .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKb9GVU8bHE

What he missed is that video failed to mention that the purpose of the Benghazi outpost was the transfer of US weapons from Libya ,to the so called 'rebels '. He also fails to mention that the real issue in Syria is that there are 2 competing pipelines that want to go through Syria .Whoever controls the country will decide which pipeline.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2016/10/20/2016.10.24%20-%20Syria%204.jpg

Hello again, tom:

Screw the pipeline.. I wanna know WHO'S gonna blink first.. The fat kid, or the orange man?

excon

I think the fat kid. The one thing that was effective during the Xi summit was that Trump told Xi about the launches in between meal courses. If Xi had the upper hand he would've gotten up and walked out . But he didn't .There was another subtle signal that was not lost on Xi when he arrived 1st and had to wait on herr Donald. The Carl Vinson Strike group is armed with Aegis systems . If un Kim launches ,it wouldn't suprise me to see his missiles exploding in mid air .

Trumps not in any trouble in the parts of the country who voted for him.. which is most of it geographically.

Trumps not in any trouble in the parts of the country who voted for him.. which is most of it geographically.
Wait until they figure out what they're going to lose.

Wait until they figure out what they're going to lose.

So says the Hillary groupies. Only the welfare class and the illegals are going to lose anything.

So says the Hillary groupies.
I'm a Republican. Never was a Hillary groupie. Please don't insult me. Be sure to check the water that trickles out of your faucets.


Only the welfare class and the illegals are going to lose anything.

You really BELIEVE that?

Tom I don't think Kim will blink, he knows China has his back and he can say or do what he likes as long as he doest start a war he can goad america into starting a war

China has sent a flotilla of North Korean freighters loaded with coking coal back to their home ports.. Meanwhile, China has placed massive orders for the steel-making commodity from U.S. producers. China will put the squeeze on un Kim.

https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/152/15267/1526716.gif

Good one tal kim might run out of tiolet paper before this one is over

The Carl Vinson Strike group is armed with Aegis systems . If un Kim launches ,it wouldn't suprise me to see his missiles exploding in mid air .

http://thediplomat.com/2017/04/us-fully-prepared-to-shoot-down-north-koreas-test-missiles/

Interesting strategy, strange they haven't thought of it before, kim is not supposed to have ballistic missile technology of the kind he is developing

Pretty obvious Trump doesn't believe in "walk softly but carry a big stick", and he loves a big show of power, but only time will tell what that gets him (US), but for sure his domestic agenda, and the investigations should not be ignored.

Dump believes in behaving like an elephant, trumpet loudly and charge the opposition but don't actually make contact. Throw up much dust and stomp loudly so they know you have been there

Dump believes in behaving like an elephant, trumpet loudly and charge the opposition but don't actually make contact. Throw up much dust and stomp loudly so they know you have been there

Clete, I have been wondering what you have been doing all these days now I know.

LOL

I am also wondering why I can't see any emoticons or am unable to bracket your post?

While the bombs bursting in the air bring truth to the world that the flag is still there, he is defunding planned parenthood, creating a deportation force, working on defunding the social security safety net, plotting high income tax breaks, repealing regulations on corporations to not foul the air, water, and land, and who knows what else he will allow his right wingers to do to accomplish their agenda while he plays with more wars for OUR kids and grand kids to fight, die, and pay for.

Don't let the shock and awe distract you because he is a busy boy on many fronts that may screw both his supporters and non-supporters alike.

While the bombs bursting in the air bring truth to the world that the flag is still there, he is defunding planned parenthood, creating a deportation force, working on defunding the social security safety net, plotting high income tax breaks, repealing regulations on corporations to not foul the air, water, and land, and who knows what else he will allow his right wingers to do to accomplish their agenda while he plays with more wars for OUR kids and grand kids to fight, die, and pay for.

Don't let the shock and awe distract you because he is a busy boy on many fronts that may screw both his supporters and non-supporters alike.

And threatening to stop Medicare payments because he doesn't like the Affordable Care Act. We have a vindictive child in the White House.

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