Today is Windows 10 day.
Have you upgraded yet ?



Windows 10 launch is a 'new era', says Microsoft boss - BBC News
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33698290)
Microsoft download tool (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)

Rory gets a Windows 10 crash course - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33689332)

Mine wanted to install about 2 hours ago

ANYTHING is an improvement over Windblowz 8 ;)

ANYTHING is an improvement over Windblowz 8 ;)

What he said

No I only have windows 8 on a tablet and I will wait until I can connect wifi but there is no hurry. If it is good for Microsoft it may not be good for me

Word of warning. The new browser apparently does not transfer your "favorites" settings.

ANYTHING is an improvement over Windblowz 8 ;)

is it ? here's hoping

I'm finding it slow! I was forced to agree to an agreement I wasn't sure of, about apps and sending Microsoft data, etc.
Now, especially Facebook Scrabble takes 3X as long 'waiting for' this and that cache or app. The only one that's mine is AdBlockPlus.

Any suggestions?

As I said I'm not in a hurry I'll wait for the upgrade verson and I'm not letting Microsoft delete my software, but they can delete all that crap from windows 8 if they like

Word of warning. The new browser apparently does not transfer your "favorites" settings.

Yes, and that is why I went back to Win 7 too. I was lost, did not know what to do to get things working also.

PS I also noticed that my boot up time is much longer since I downloaded Win 10.

Word of warning. The new browser apparently does not transfer your "favorites" settings.

Important to the precious few who use internet explorer for anything other then downloading firefox/opera/chrome/mosiac/lynx/safari/netscape. :-)

I am waiting for my position in the queue to come up, likely do it on Monday when I can guarantee that I won't need anything that I have installed on it.

I played around with the beta version for about the last 9 months or so. Waiting for mine to ugrade as I expect in the next few days.

Plan on over an hour. I fell asleep. It was 'done' because my computer was off, but when I restarted, it decided to do some more stuff for 10 minutes.

Havent gotten anything yet. Only the notice that I will get it. In an article I read it can take up to 2 weeks before the roll out is complete.

Took me an hour too, so far,so good.

cdad, the second link will allow you to get it earlier ;)

Mine wanted to install about 2 hours ago

So. Did it install ? You have reservations about having 10 ?

I postponed it for bedtime. Not reservations so much as caution, remembering the fateful day not many months ago when I installed 8.1!

I'm going to wait for the upgrades on each of my machines. But I plan on doing my Dell Venue 8 tab let first, Then my Samsung 2 in 1, and my desktop last.

My Win7 Toshiba laptop is not happy. Considering making a recovery disk for when the patches come out and going back to Win7. The load was fairly easy but didn't include a video player, hid the indexes, and seems to run about as fast as a 3G phone.

Use VLC for a video player!

Win 10 seems to be slowing down any app such as Scrabble because of 'waiting for' various things to do with mobile that I haven't seen before... anyone have any idea how to disable anything to do with mobile?

Thinking I'm going to stay with 8 for a while. I don't use a touch screen but find I don't need to use all those apps . I do all my work from Desktop

I'm with you Tom why should this change be forced upon us. I don't have an internet connection so Microsoft can access my computer anytime they like

I'm with you Tom why should this change be forced upon us. I don't have an internet connection so Microsoft can access my computer anytime they like


It is not by force. Its is free if you want it but you dont have to take it.

Really, what updates do you think will be available for windows 7 or windows 8? This is the update and they are forcing abandonment of XP. There are businesses who have not upgraded for years because their software is not going to work on this platform. As a business I cannot afford my proprietary software to be compromised or fail to work

Para, they aren't "forcing" abandonment of XP. They just won't provide support for it. A bit of a different thing. But why should people stay with old technology? Every version of software has a shelf life. Companies can't afford to support a piece of software indefinitely and I see no reason that they should be required to. Microsoft is giving people a full year to upgrade to 10.

My boss has been running Win 10 for 2 months now. Every one of the programs we use has run without issue under Win 10. It is up to the vendors of your proprietary software to test and upgrade their software to run under new OSes.

I agree with Scott. Maybe what you should try para is installing it on a remote machine and running your software under it to see how it works for you before you complain about it not working.

I have had to apply a few tweaks on occasion for some software that was designed to run under Win 3.1 because I had to use it. Atleast with this all your going to lose is time because the software is free.

Yes I just keep an extra machine hanging around so I can test Microsoft updates, I am fed up with the idea that it is all or nothing with Microsoft

Yes I just keep an extra machine hanging around so I can test Microsoft updates, I am fed up with the idea that it is all or nothing with Microsoft


It is not all or nothing. You have a year to decide so long as your machine qualifies. All or nothig is Apple. MS has always been backward compatable since the begining.

I have programs that no longer work

My windows 7 has been updating regularly for years. You do have auto updates engaged on your machine don't you, Clete? I think windows 10 is an upgrade, not an update.

I have programs that no longer work


What OS were they designed to run on ?

Pre windows XP

Pre windows XP

3.11, win 95 ??? DOS ?


Maybe we can help you with getting it running.

I had to run an old program designed under win 3.1 with a windows 7 machine and I got it running fine for what I needed.

Win 95, there was a utility that converted the files in win 98 but that disappeared in vista but technology moves on my windows 8 tablet doesn't.t have a CD drive so the whole thing becomes academic as I see no point in buying an external drive for it

It is kind of wishful thinking to expect utilities built 20 years ago to work with current hardware and software. And there is no reason to buy an external drive for your tablet. You can simply connect to another machine and use their drive, or copy the contents of the drive as an ISO to a flashdrive or other PC.

Yes I have tried copying on to a flashdrive, no luck. As far as utilities built a long time ago still working my copy of Quickbooks still works at least on windows 7. I prefer the way Office 2003 is designed and I don't wish to lose that facility even though I can use later versions. I'm the sort of person Microsoft wants out of the system because they make no money from me out of upgrades

I tried to get to first base with Win 10 and I struck out. Has any one found "Favorites" or does one have to redo them? Is there a tutorial for Win 10? It would be nice to have a window that looks something like Win 7 I am dumb as a pile of rocks when it comes to computers.

Windows 8 works off the desktop and I expect windows 10 will do the same It's okay when you get used to it but there a lot of useless apps come with it

I opted out of those and unchecked the settings I didn't want changed. My laptop is almost like a bigger version of my Android just with a keyboard.

Has any one found "Favorites" or does one have to redo them? Is there a tutorial for Win 10?


There is an "import favorites" that worked great for me. Not sure where it was, I remember it in the top right hand corner of the page. Plenty of tutorials also.

I tried to get to first base with Win 10 and I struck out. Has any one found "Favorites" or does one have to redo them? Is there a tutorial for Win 10? It would be nice to have a window that looks something like Win 7 I am dumb as a pile of rocks when it comes to computers.


From an article I read it does not bring over your favorites list. But if it created a folder called winold or something like that. Open it and go to users and you will find your favorites folder in there. By clicking the links in it you will go to those sites.

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If you click hub (top circle) then click import favorites in 10's browser it should work. It did for me at least.

Thanks, I might have to resort to my Grandsons to get me up to speed with Win 10

It came in as an update and I have it installed on 2 machines. Win7 - win10 and the other win8.1 - win10. I hate that the first thing you need to do is turn off a bunch of crap that impedes on your privacy. It should be off by default.

Yes well that's Microsoft but it is better than the alternative Apple which is about to implode

Yes well that's Microsoft but it is better than the alternative Apple which is about to implode

Implode, and why ? Why be so critical without explaining yourself ?

I gather that Apple have released a worm designed to fix a software bug which in itself is destructive

I gather that Apple have released a worm designed to fix a software bug which in itself is destructive



Do you have a link to a story or something to look at ? In doing a search the closest thing I could find was from 2014. That only applied to 2 of apple's OS's.

Okay, after many hours of trial and error I am working with Win 10. So, I am now on the Win 7 Screen which I love, how the hell do I switch to the Win 10 screen and back to the Win 7 screen without me taking another 2 or 3 hours to get this far? They must think that everyone who has a computer is a rocket scientist. (Not Me).

PS, I do believe, I got is working with that little guy down in the left hand corner bottom of screen.

In the corner you will see what looks like a 4 pane window where your start button used to be.

In clicking that it leads you to your desktop and to your apps. By clicking it (left click) it switchs back and forth between them. To close windows or to see other features right click on it and a list should appear. In that list is also where you turn your maching off near the lower end of the list. To get out of other windows / apps you can go to the top of the screen and a bar should appear. Clicking the X closes it.

In the corner you will see what looks like a 4 pane window where your start button used to be.

In clicking that it leads you to your desktop and to your apps. By clicking it (left click) it switchs back and forth between them. To close windows or to see other features right click on it and a list should appear. In that list is also where you turn your maching off near the lower end of the list. To get out of other windows / apps you can go to the top of the screen and a bar should appear. Clicking the X closes it.

What you say is so, thanks. I have the Win 10 screen and instead of the Win 7 window, I have the screen that appears to be Win 10 with the only difference is I have the favorites across the third line as they did appear on Win 7. I am happy with what I have right now. Not sure if it is right or not but good to go I feel.
Been a long day of trial and error. Not a total waste, I have learned something.

What you say is so, thanks. I have the Win 10 screen and instead of the Win 7 window, I have the screen that appears to be Win 10 with the only difference is I have the favorites across the third line as they did appear on Win 7. I am happy with what I have right now. Not sure if it is right or not but good to go I feel.
Been a long day of trial and error. Not a total waste, I have learned something.



Learning is a good thing and knowing that if you need help you know exactly where to ask ;)

My laptop is now running Win 10. Boy were there a lot of default settings to change for privacy and bandwidth issues.
Going to image the desktop first (it's our gaming machine) and do that one next.

This morning had to reboot when I lost use of the mouse (have touch screen too). Reboot hung, and I had to unplug.

Oh the joys of an early adopter

I have installed on two computers, my wife's and my own. Both are about 4 years old or so (motherboard/mem/video age). The only issue I had was that the video driver didn't work out of the box. I had to download the drive from nvidia to get my dual monitors to work, and her monitor to show the right size. Haven't had any issue otherwise. The boot up takes more and less time to become stable, if that makes sense. It took win 7 about 30-90s to finish all its login tasks before it settled down and you could run with out lag. With win10 the lag is spread out a little longer but programs are more responsive during that boot lag. Given that I reboot my computer about once a month, this isn't an issue for me.

I have noticed that Win10's garbage collector (Mem management) is a little better, Firefox hasn't hung or imploded yet.

I am trying to use the new features of it instead of just getting it to emulate Win7 (or winXP). There are some slick features, and I wouldn't mind figure out more of it. The upgrade didn't affect much of the software that I am using right now. I think though, if I have time in the next few months, I am going to do a soft rebuild of my machine and try a clean install instead of the upgrade. Just get rid of a bunch of stuff.

paraclete. Being an early adopter means that you can sort out all the tools and programs you need. Gives you a head start of getting or developing what you need going forward. Instead of praying that your win95 box that has a critical piece of software doesn't die on you. I have always been the first to try out the new ios, and OSs for my desktop.

And now it's just got even better...

How to enable the legendary 'God Mode' in Windows 10 for all the settings | Windows Central (http://www.windowscentral.com/how-enable-god-mode-windows-10)

And now it's just got even better...

How to enable the legendary 'God Mode' in Windows 10 for all the settings | Windows Central (http://www.windowscentral.com/how-enable-god-mode-windows-10)

Guess what I'll be doing tonight... on my laptop, The only thing I've allowed to update to win 10 so far.

What I am not sure of is, is the Win 7 screen that I have is all that it should be. If I knew how, I would make photo of my screen. What I have is a 3 tier just plain grey screen with the top line listing the open windows and the 2nd line has a right and left button arrow a refresh button and line to enter information. The 3d line is just a listing of my favorites. I sure would like to see a shot of what the Win 7 screen should look like. One other thing, I would love to get rid of the password necessary to open up the computer.

What I am not sure of is, is the Win 7 screen that I have is all that it should be. If I knew how, I would make photo of my screen. What I have is a 3 tier just plain grey screen with the top line listing the open windows and the 2nd line has a right and left button arrow a refresh button and line to enter information. The 3d line is just a listing of my favorites. I sure would like to see a shot of what the Win 7 screen should look like. One other thing, I would love to get rid of the password necessary to open up the computer.


If this is a basic computer or laptop not touch screen activated then it sounds like you have it running in tablet mode. Your win7 screen should look normal other then the background being a win10 logo. What type of machine is this on and did you upgrade or did you do a fresh install ?


You have 1 week to decide if you like it or not. It allows you to revert during that time period.

If this is a basic computer or laptop not touch screen activated then it sounds like you have it running in tablet mode. Your win7 screen should look normal other then the background being a win10 logo. What type of machine is this on and did you upgrade or did you do a fresh install ?


You have 1 week to decide if you like it or not. It allows you to revert during that time period.

A Toshiba A665 about 4 years old. I did a upgrade. My screen looks very bland and it is grey in color at the top. Not sure what I have looks like a Hybrid, it works but is not very colorful or functional.

Unless I get this to look okay I will not upgrade my desktop.

You can change the desktop theme pretty easily... you won't have to be stuck with bland. Though I don't have my laptop in front of me to tell you what steps it takes. But there aren't many. I seem to remember it being very much like doing it on Win 7 or Win 8.1

You can change the desktop theme pretty easily... you won't have to be stuck with bland. Though I don't have my laptop in front of me to tell you what steps it takes. But there aren't many. I seem to remember it being very much like doing it on Win 7 or Win 8.1

Smoothy, it is not just the color it just does not even resemble what the Win 7 screen should look like. I don't know what is wrong. If worse come to be, and I can't revert to Win7 I will start over. The only thing I have been able to do without any problem is to Import my Favorites from Win 7 to Win 10 on screen.

Other than that I can not find other things that I did on Win 7 with ease.

Try going to the right side of the task bar if you have one. There should be a box there indicating alerts. If you click it then you also should get the desktop theme section. That is where I think it may have went wrong and gotten into tablet mode. You should be able to change it there.

Try going to the right side of the task bar if you have one. There should be a box there indicating alerts. If you click it then you also should get the desktop theme section. That is where I think it may have went wrong and gotten into tablet mode. You should be able to change it there.

I got your PM Thanks. I am making some headway. I now have a screen that is just like my Win 7 was. Only problem I am having is how to keep it there. When I hit a button or two the screen reverts to the blue/grey screen with not much info. Making some headway, wish I was getting paid for this trial and error hours I am spending on this hummer.

Update, I have a full color Win 7 screen and the Win 10 screen. Much more trial and error, think I have it figured out some what.

Catonsville, what was the issue, and how was it fixed? I want to know because chances are I am going to have to support my parents and this sounds like something they'd do.

Catonsville, what was the issue, and how was it fixed? I want to know because chances are I am going to have to support my parents and this sounds like something they'd do.

I am sorry, but I don't know what the problem was or how I fixed it. If you read my responses, you can rest assured, I don't know enough about computers to fix it without using trial and error. Hopefully your parents will have an easy time getting onto Win 10.

In a nut shell, I had Win 10 and Win 7 was very not showing up. After keying around, I was able to get the three or four dots at the top of the screen of Win 10 to allow me to get into Explorer and Win 7 popped up as it was originally. The Win 10 screen was toggling between the Win 10 Blocks and a Very bland in color screen with little information like I was getting only part of Win 7. If you can make any sense out of what I said, you are good.