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paraclete
Jan 22, 2015, 05:19 PM
I don't know if it is me but this is a no "News"day. All the news that is the news has a de javu ring to it
ISIS is advancing/retreating
Boko Harum is attacking
QE is happening somewhere
Someone is still debating Bengahzi
The government is attacking labour conditions
Tax rates are under consideration
Leadership is being questioned.
Climate is hotter than ever
The Ukraine war grinds on
tickle
Jan 22, 2015, 06:12 PM
And cdn dollar dropped to 1.84 direct result from cdn gas prices dropping to 82cents per litre from 1.50per a month ago. Both you and tomder said, gee that looks good for yr economy ! Why does this look good you ninnies !
paraclete
Jan 22, 2015, 09:35 PM
Who said currency drops are good, only the farmers, our $AUD has gone from $1.10 to $0.82 over the last year or so and this is a direct result of QE in the US, who knows what impact QE in Europe will have but I doubt it is good. QE is a beggar your neighbour policy
tomder55
Jan 23, 2015, 11:14 AM
and Yemen fell a year after the emperor claimed it was an example of the success achieved for the way he prosecutes the war against jihadistan.
talaniman
Jan 23, 2015, 11:58 AM
Money has always been manipulated by REAL capitalists, and Yemen has never had a strong government EVER, but this is more sunni/shia conflict. Wonder how the new saudi king handles this one?
Pass the popcorn and some of that stuff you are drinking on, Clete.
tomder55
Jan 23, 2015, 12:24 PM
perhaps you should get a map and look at the strategic importance of land where Yemen is located .Jihadistan now owns a choke point where the Gulf of Aden meets the Red Sea....Somalia on one shore and Yemen on the other .
paraclete
Jan 23, 2015, 01:01 PM
Yes they now command the oil supply route, however it is the shia who have taken over in Yemen, so Saudi would be very upset. I expect there will have to be a greater naval presence in the Red Sea.
Tal what I see is we are not making progress, we just seem to be chasing the same issues around while the polis tell us whatever they think we will swallow
talaniman
Jan 23, 2015, 01:14 PM
@Tom. No need for a map, the money is easy to follow. The real map you need is the one showing the ancient trade routes. Never mind since nothing has really changed over the centuries. This is but the latest chapter in an old story.
Tal what I see is we are not making progress, we just seem to be chasing the same issues around while the polis tell us whatever they thing we will swallow
The important question was are you passing the popcorn or not, while we wait for things to unfold (Obviously you ain't sharing the drink!)?
paraclete
Jan 23, 2015, 01:31 PM
The important question was are you passing the popcorn or not, while we wait for things to unfold (Obviously you ain't sharing the drink!)?
Tal you can have some popcorn if you bring the chips and the dip, as to the drink, do you like your water chilled? We are just spectators to history and I doubt if any of this will be remembered
talaniman
Jan 23, 2015, 02:51 PM
Chilled water with a bit of lime is fine and you are correct we are just observers/commentators of current events. To old to fight Clete, just talk.
Dip and chips is a winner.
paraclete
Jan 23, 2015, 03:35 PM
What I find is we are on a merry go round, and we seem to have the same unresolved issues for years. I have the sense we have no statesmen anymore just party hacks who are incapable of getting a fresh perspective or a new idea. It is interesting, in your country the president is pushing higher minimum wage and higher benefits whilst in mine the government is on the side of changing the industrial relations system to reduce wages, penalties and benefits. It is just pettyfogging as if they don't realise what is important is growth which can then meet expectations. All of this is driven by a PM who was the architect of a policy that failed miserably in the electoral sphere and got them thrown out and yet they fail to understand, thus far and no further.
talaniman
Jan 23, 2015, 04:02 PM
Disgusting ain't it?
paraclete
Jan 23, 2015, 04:13 PM
Yes, it is. I don't like policies that have the greatest impact on the bottom end when they are going to make things worse. It seems we have developed a philosophy of reversionism.
talaniman
Jan 23, 2015, 05:47 PM
OMG!! Now I'm agreeing with YOU!! WTF did you put in my water??
paraclete
Jan 24, 2015, 03:32 AM
I only serve pure water, it is heady stuff. Well you should agree with me part of the time, I'm not against the little man and I'm sure not for those so called job creators, but there is a need for everyone to take responsibility for what they can change.
What perhaps you have missed is calling a spade a spade, not a shovel. There is a great deal of hypocracy in the political system, whether we are talking about yours or mine and what I have found is that those who should be looking out for the little man are in fact looking out for themselves and whether anyoneelse benefits is purely coincidental or expedient. When they say they are going to fix the economy or the deficit we know who is actually going to pay. I'm sick of people with their hands in my pocket
tomder55
Jan 24, 2015, 05:30 AM
the emperor is dillusional . He barely talked about his signature attempt at central planning and is moving on to other ambitious central planning efforts that will fail as badly. To the progressive Fabians and Jacobins ,it's the intentions that count ,not the outcome of their meddling .
talaniman
Jan 24, 2015, 06:21 AM
Republicans have fared no better though, and the electorate has little cause to believe that will change! Too much money in politics for it to work fairly!
tomder55
Jan 24, 2015, 12:01 PM
The Ukraine war grinds on
Donetsk airport has seen fierce fighting . The rebels have taken it from Ukraine forces and Ukraine is claiming that regular Russian soldiers crossed the border to help the rebels turn the tide.
Now the rebels have their sights on the port city of Mariupol . Taking that strategic city would pave the way for a land bridge from Russia to Crimea.
paraclete
Jan 24, 2015, 01:38 PM
Well Tom undoubtedly it's cheaper than building one. Putin wants the eastern Ukraine, in fact he wants all of Ukraine back in the Russian camp, but the cost to Russia is enormous. This will drain them the way Afghanistan drained them if they keep at it, that's what happens in proxy wars and it's what happens when you neglect part of your population.
tomder55
Jan 24, 2015, 02:01 PM
Their hold on Crimea is tenuous without the land route. No I don't think they want all of Ukraine . Nor do I think that the people of Eastern Ukraine will ever be content being governed by the Nazis in Kiev . I think this new offensive is meant to bolster their negotiating position .The Russians will be content to hold on to Crimea and the Sevastapol naval facilities once they are assured it can't be isolated by Kiev ....or a NATO intervention. Eastern Ukraine will either be the break away People's Republic of Donetsk ;or may choose integration into Novorussiya.
paraclete
Jan 24, 2015, 02:19 PM
I don't see it that war, Russia is the power in the region, who is going to take it away, not Ukraine, and it is an important Black Sea port for them. Crimia is only a recent addition to the Ukraine, a political move in the soviet days. They can just as easily create a concrete bridge as fight over a land bridge. Ukraine has trouble dealing with dissidents in Donetsk even though it has one of the largest armies in Europe. What is happening is the artificial construct of the Ukraine is breaking up because there are different peoples there, both ethnicity and religion. Ukraine is important to Russia because of the gas pipelines. Economically it is vital and this war is stupid because it threatens both Russia and Europe, better that the decision of the people be respected
tomder55
Jan 24, 2015, 03:03 PM
They can just as easily create a concrete bridge as fight over a land bridge. Concrete bridges are easily demolished .
What is happening is the artificial construct of the Ukraine is breaking up because there are different peoples there, both ethnicity and religion.
Correct ,just like the EU is an artificial construct which for many reasons I believe is on it's death bed........this new proposed QE may be the nail in the coffin. History has shown only one way for a united Europe ;and that is one imposed on it.
paraclete
Jan 24, 2015, 10:31 PM
Concrete bridges are easily demolished .
Correct ,just like the EU is an artificial construct which for many reasons I believe is on it's death bed........this new proposed QE may be the nail in the coffin. History has shown only one way for a united Europe ;and that is one imposed on it.
Given the size of the land bridge I would say the same goes for it, seriously a cooperative attitude would solve many problems. As for europa yes it has gotten out of hand, too many hangers on and too many subsidies to agriculture. I don't know why Ukraine doesn't set up some autonomous regions as a solution
tomder55
Jan 25, 2015, 03:14 AM
as I recall ,Putin suggested that many lives lost ago.
paraclete
Jan 25, 2015, 05:36 AM
Good ideas aren't restricted to the west, not being able to opt out is b/s that is restricted to a certain western nation and look what it cost them, history repeats itself. If we fail to learn from history we doom ourselves to repeat mistakes