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Tessy777
Apr 5, 2007, 05:09 PM
If I have a few drinks tonight can I still pass a alcohol urine on Monday? I don't know if the probation departments just check the level of alcohol in urine,( can detect alcohol up to 24 hours) or if they do a more extensive test that can detect alcohol for up to five days. Has anyone heard or know anything about it? I'd love to have a drink with my husband tonight... does anyone know anything that might help me at all? I was charged with prescription fraud, I know they test me for everything... including alcohol but I was hoping I could still have a drink occasionally. I can't asked my probation officer how extensive of a alcohol urine is done.. but if anyone knows anything at all... I'd appreciate some in put.

Fr_Chuck
Apr 5, 2007, 05:53 PM
Let me see, so you are saying that even though your terms of probation was not to drink, you ar willing to have your probation violated just to have that drink, So have a coke with him? Better yet, get hubby to also have a coke when you go out.

What you are saying is you want to drink so bad you are willing to risk going to jail for it??

Think about it, and yes if they do certain tests it will show up, just depends on your department which test they will do.

Tessy777
Apr 5, 2007, 05:59 PM
Nope, not what I said... my terms of supervision says nothing about alcohol consumption, I just happened to see that they were checking me for alcohol in my urine along with everything else. I just wasn't sure if the probation departments were testing for EtG. I want to know if they do. I would like to have a drink on occasion if I COULD but there isn't anything I want bad enough to go to jail for...

excon
Apr 5, 2007, 06:23 PM
Hello again, Tessy:

Alcohol turns to sugar a couple hours after consumption. If you drank in the evening, it wouldn't show in your urine the next day.

excon

Tessy777
Apr 5, 2007, 06:32 PM
If I have a few drinks tonight can I still pass a alcohol urine on Monday? I don't know if the probation departments just check the level of alcohol in urine,( can detect alcohol up to 24 hours) or if they do a more extensive test that can detect alcohol for up to five days. Has anyone heard or know anything about it? I'd love to have a drink with my husband tonight.....does anyone know anything that might help me at all? I was charged with prescription fraud, i know they test me for everything....including alcohol but I was hoping i could still have a drink occassionally. I can't asked my probation officer how extensive of a alcohol urine is done ..but if anyone knows anything at all...i'd appreciate some in put.
Hello again Mr. Excon,

I know... I'm driving myself crazy wondering if I can have a drink (and I don't even like alcohol that much). I'm sure I could have one and be fine, but I am too chicken to try... and because I don't think I should... I want too! I'm screwed up... which explains why I am on probation in the first place... lol. Thanks!

bobo1
Jun 23, 2007, 11:01 PM
If I have a few drinks tonight can I still pass a alcohol urine on Monday? I don't know if the probation departments just check the level of alcohol in urine,( can detect alcohol up to 24 hours) or if they do a more extensive test that can detect alcohol for up to five days. Has anyone heard or know anything about it? I'd love to have a drink with my husband tonight.....does anyone know anything that might help me at all? I was charged with prescription fraud, i know they test me for everything....including alcohol but I was hoping i could still have a drink occassionally. I can't asked my probation officer how extensive of a alcohol urine is done ..but if anyone knows anything at all...i'd appreciate some in put.
Hi there,
Did you end-up having the drinks prior to the urine testing? I am facing the same dillema!

Tessy777
Jun 24, 2007, 07:55 AM
Yep... so far so good. I just make sure I have had nothing the day before the test.

s_cianci
Jun 25, 2007, 05:35 PM
Is one of the conditions of your probation not to drink? If so, then don't do it. Trying to beat the system will only cause more problems for you. Remember, any probation violation could get you sent to jail. Then you won't be spending any time with you husband at all.

JudyKayTee
Apr 23, 2008, 06:30 AM
It's not as if she's wanting to score some crack in a dark alley....she wants to have a drink with her husband! Sounds pretty normal to me. You never know why someone could be on probation or if they even deserve to be...maybe try not to so quickly judge and put yourself in someone else's shoes that is probably trying to live a good and decent life while having every move they make monitored. By the way, many of our "honorable and law abiding" officers of the law (including probation officers) are some of the worst offenders and abusers of the system since they know their way around it. Maybe you should try to slip down from your saddle on that high horse of yours and look around see things look down her--sometimes gray, not alway black and white.



Whoa - way out of line here. The OP - just like you - is trying to get around the terms of probation - in her case, alcohol; in your case "borrowed" drugs and it's a legal board.

I realize you think wanting to have a drink with her husband sounds normal to you; unfortunately, when it could be violating probation it does not sound normal to some other people on this - the legal - Board.

LolaL
Apr 23, 2008, 01:20 PM
If I have a few drinks tonight can I still pass a alcohol urine on Monday? I don't know if the probation departments just check the level of alcohol in urine,( can detect alcohol up to 24 hours) or if they do a more extensive test that can detect alcohol for up to five days. Has anyone heard or know anything about it? I'd love to have a drink with my husband tonight.....does anyone know anything that might help me at all? I was charged with prescription fraud, i know they test me for everything....including alcohol but I was hoping i could still have a drink occassionally. I can't asked my probation officer how extensive of a alcohol urine is done ..but if anyone knows anything at all...i'd appreciate some in put.
Hi, have you found anything out about passing a UA on probation after consuming alcohol? I had been drinking 36 hrs prior to my test this a.m.

vanzepplin
Sep 10, 2008, 03:19 PM
I'm knew to this sight
Same question as you
I know that instead of testing me for ethenol (the 24 hour type),, I instead was tested for ethelgluta? something? The surgar tha alcohol makes,, I do know my clean and sober house can trace alcohol back 88 hours (3 and a 1/2 days):o

panopoulos
Oct 26, 2008, 10:07 PM
Hi, have you found anything out about passing a UA on probation after consuming alcohol? I had been drinking 36 hrs prior to my test this a.m.

From what I've read ETG can be detected in urine up to 80 hrs after consumption. Other sites have said alcohol could show up from 1-6 days after. I drank a bottle of champagne and it will be 84 hours after that I will be tested. I'm staying up all night drinking water & coffee; coffee because caffeine is a diuretic & will cause you to pee. I'm hoping that I pass. I'm mad at myself for screwing up; don't plan on it again. Will let you know what happens.

panopoulos
Oct 26, 2008, 11:22 PM
Re: ETG test. I found a ver helpful article! Sensitivity of commercial ETG testing (Oxford Journals). Helped lower my anxiety of being tested. Hope this helps.

Hiddenfire79
Mar 23, 2009, 12:13 PM
Man.. . It bugs me when a "Holier than thou" comes along and the simple answer is to STOP doing it, well we are not stopping doing it so we are looking for answers dang it!

I am on DOC and I will tell you NOW what I thought, "Sure the EtG test must be more complex and expensive, our state won't spend millions every year just for a little 'test' would they?"

Well I will tell you NOW, they sure the heck WILL. I even maxxed out the supposed maximum time for detection of 80 hours and STILL came up dirty for alcohol and sat in jail for 30 days because of it. So for my little $6.50 vodka seven I get to hand the "Holier than Thou's" out there a HEFTY tax bill, so maybe next time you will help without being such a THOU! (Sorry tax payers who helped, I didn't want to charge you!

ccs714
May 7, 2009, 04:02 PM
Is one of the conditions of your probation not to drink? If so, then don't do it. Trying to beat the system will only cause more problems for you. Remember, any probation violation could get you sent to jail. Then you won't be spending any time with you husband at all.

The person was not asking a question about your morality stance, or your idea of common sense. Get with the program!
Carl

Sunflowers
May 7, 2009, 04:09 PM
Try this link for the information you are looking for

80 Hour Test for Alcohol (http://www.alcohol-test-info.com/80_Hour_Test_for_Alcohol.html)

JudyKayTee
May 7, 2009, 04:37 PM
Try this link for the information you are looking for

80 Hour Test for Alcohol (http://www.alcohol-test-info.com/80_Hour_Test_for_Alcohol.html)


This does not answer the question, which is "how does a person use and pass." Good info but does not address the question and this is a legal board.

Sunflowers
May 7, 2009, 04:59 PM
This does not answer the question, which is "how does a person use and pass." Good info but does not address the question and this is a legal board.

What?? Where? "If I have a few drinks tonight can I still pass a alcohol urine on Monday?"

Sunflowers
May 7, 2009, 05:24 PM
JudyKayTee, I didn't get that impression at all from the OP. From what I understand she is on probation for prescription fraud and has to have a UA test on Monday. The UA test includes testing for alcohol along with everything else. Since she was not told specifically that she cannot drink alcohol and alcohol is legal, and her crime did not involve alcohol abuse (but did involve drug abuse), I was thinking along the line that she probably is permitted to drink so long as she is not drinking excessively. She knows alcohol is on the test, but she does not know how the alcohol test is done or WHY or even IF it is going to be done for sure. That is how I see the question. Not as a question of how she can get over on the system.

JudyKayTee
May 7, 2009, 05:27 PM
The question is: "If I have a few drinks tonight can I still pass a alcohol urine on Monday?" You don't TAKE a urine test unless someone has told you not to drink. For whatever reason she cannot ask her PO - if you aren't told NOT to drink, you ask the question.

I see it as an attempt to drink and pass the test and I've worked in "the system" for a long time.

We obviously don't agree.

Sunflowers
May 7, 2009, 05:32 PM
Only the OP knows for sure :)

claurati
Jun 9, 2009, 12:25 AM
If I have a few drinks tonight can I still pass a alcohol urine on Monday? I don't know if the probation departments just check the level of alcohol in urine,( can detect alcohol up to 24 hours) or if they do a more extensive test that can detect alcohol for up to five days. Has anyone heard or know anything about it? I'd love to have a drink with my husband tonight.....does anyone know anything that might help me at all? I was charged with prescription fraud, i know they test me for everything....including alcohol but I was hoping i could still have a drink occassionally. I can't asked my probation officer how extensive of a alcohol urine is done ..but if anyone knows anything at all...i'd appreciate some in put.

Hi Tessy... I know it's been a while since your post. Did you have that glass and what was the outcome/results?

courtjester1
Jun 10, 2009, 10:48 AM
Don't listen to ex-con. Alcohol can be detected in your urine for up to 80 hours!

Sherry5
Oct 5, 2009, 09:30 PM
Whoa - way out of line here. The OP - just like you - is trying to get around the terms of probation - in her case, alcohol; in your case "borrowed" drugs and it's a legal board.

I realize you think wanting to have a drink with her husband sounds normal to you; unfortunately, when it could be violating probation it does not sound normal to some other people on this - the legal - Board.

I guess I'm wondering what is out of line here. She states her dilemma and is asking for some assisstance with testing relative to the terms and conditions of her probation. If the terms of her probation do not include alcohol comsumption, then it should be OK for her to drink (though I must agree that risking your liberty all for a bit of quiet time and sharing a drink with her husband is ill advised by anyone.) Unless she lives in a place where they have very refined testing ability (like the EtG/EtS), probation on its face, will only test for alcohol in urine and those tests are accurate for about 24 hours. Of course the probation officer reserves the right to send the test to a lab equipmed to administer the EtG/EtS test. The rate at which someone eliminates alcohol in their system varies from person to person depending on their age, sex, weight, and how long they have been drinking. However, the metobolic rate at which alcohol is broken down is termed as Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC) and is usually .015 BAC per hour. This in turn means that a person who has 0.15 BAC drains out all the alcohol from his body within 10 hours since its consumption. A 0.10 BAC level can be mapped to a metabolism time of 10 hours while a 0.02 BAC level corresponds to a metabolism period of 1.33 hours. Are you an attorney and are you giving legal advise?

Sherry5
Oct 5, 2009, 09:50 PM
If I have a few drinks tonight can I still pass a alcohol urine on Monday? I don't know if the probation departments just check the level of alcohol in urine,( can detect alcohol up to 24 hours) or if they do a more extensive test that can detect alcohol for up to five days. Has anyone heard or know anything about it? I'd love to have a drink with my husband tonight.....does anyone know anything that might help me at all? I was charged with prescription fraud, i know they test me for everything....including alcohol but I was hoping i could still have a drink occassionally. I can't asked my probation officer how extensive of a alcohol urine is done ..but if anyone knows anything at all...i'd appreciate some in put.

Hello Tessy777, I think this will answer your question. If the terms and conditions of your probation do not include alcohol consumption, then it should be OK for you to drink (though I must agree that risking your liberty and the lives of others, all for a bit of quiet time and sharing a drink with your husband is ill advised by all reading this response.) Please understand that I am not an attorney and I am not giving you legal advice. Having said that, unless the place where you live has very refined testing ability (like the EtG/EtS), probation on its face, will only test for alcohol in urine and those tests are accurate for about 24 hours. Of course the probation officer reserves the right to send the test to a lab equipped to administer the EtG/EtS test. This test can produce positive results up to 80 hours after alcohol is ingested. In addition, the rate at which someone eliminates alcohol in their system varies from person to person depending on their age, sex, weight, and how long they have been drinking. However, the metabolic rate at which alcohol is broken down is termed as Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC) and is usually .015 BAC per hour. What that means is if your BAC is registering as 0.15, and the rate at which it dissipates is 0.15, generally speaking your system will drain out all the alcohol in your system in 10 hours (0.15 divided by 0.15 equals 1.0 or 10 hours) If on the other hand, your BAC is 0.02 BAC and the rate at which the alcohol leaves your system is 0.15, then it will take 13.3 hours to get rid of the alcohol in your system (0.02 divided by 0.15 equals.13 repeating so that equals 13.33 hours) and so on. I know it’s a little technical but it’s worth trying to understand all of this so that you don’t get yourself into trouble. As always, please don't drink and drive. I, and many of the people on this forum, have children and it would tragic if they were killed in a drunk driving accident. Many years ago a drunk driver on my road, killed a family of 5 in a fiery crash leaving only the father to survive. Just don't do it OK? Promise? Hope that helps you in some small measure.

Sherry5
Oct 5, 2009, 09:52 PM
I guess I'm wondering what is out of line here. She states her dilemma and is asking for some assisstance with testing relative to the terms and conditions of her probation. If the terms of her probation do not include alcohol comsumption, then it should be ok for her to drink (though I must agree that risking your liberty all for a bit of quiet time and sharing a drink with her husband is ill advised by anyone.) Unless she lives in a place where they have very refined testing ability (like the EtG/EtS), probation on its face, will only test for alcohol in urine and those tests are accurate for about 24 hours. Of course the probation officer reserves the right to send the test to a lab equipmed to administer the EtG/EtS test. The rate at which someone eliminates alcohol in their system varies from person to person depending on their age, sex, weight, and how long they have been drinking. However, the metobolic rate at which alcohol is broken down is termed as Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC) and is usually .015 BAC per hour. This in turn means that a person who has 0.15 BAC drains out all the alcohol from his body within 10 hours since its consumption. A 0.10 BAC level can be mapped to a metabolism time period of 10 hours while a 0.02 BAC level corresponds to a metabolism period of 1.33 hours. Are you an attorney and are you giving legal advise?

I beg your pardon and humble apologies, I had a typeo. I should have said "13.33 repeat" hours instead of 1.33 hours. My most humble apologies.

J_9
Oct 8, 2009, 06:27 AM
Since this thread is 2 years old, it is officially closed.