Remember when the Dems the Dems thought it was important to return Hispanic children to their parents ?
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Oh, you mean the democrats ! Don't forget you have an international audience, so you have to spell it out, sorry !

I sont understand your reference to Churchill though. Are you criticizing his quote ?

I see you have dyslexic fingers just like me

I sont understand your reference to Churchill though. Are you criticizing his quote ?
on the contrary ;I think he's right on .

They still want to return the ones now to their parents. Its just that they will be imported into this country to become the new minority. At the rate that things were going and the fact that the blacks are getting so many abortions the latin american is poised to take over their spot.

You fellows are slow over there, we return them all, stop the childen and the parents will stop coming

Some see them as refugees fleeing dangerous conditions in the home country, not unlike the Europeans who did the same thing after, and during the world wars. Not unlike what we see all over the world where huge numbers of people are fleeing conflicts. We have been seeing huge movements to help those people everywhere but not so much here in our own backyard.

Send the bums back... they have no right to be here... many of them have gang affiliations back home. They aren't our problem, and we don't want them.

Refugees, eh? According to the emperor these are “the best and the brightest”, when in reality they’re more like those “who’ll do the jobs Americans won’t do” or something like that. One can never tell what Dems will call them other than future Democrats.

We hear what YOU GUYS call them, you have hollered it enough.

Some see them as refugees fleeing dangerous conditions in the home country, not unlike the Europeans who did the same thing after, and during the world wars.

I guess Elian Gonzalez hadn't escaped a repressive regime .

His daddy came and got him.

We hear what YOU GUYS call them, you have hollered it enough.

What exactly have I called them? I call them people, their status is “illegal alien”, not “undocumented migrant” and they are certainly not “the best and the brightest”. It is unconscionable for the emperor to not only let just anyone in, but knowingly put these children at risk with smugglers, human traffickers and gather them up like chickens in a coop without their families.

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Its called a process and what's wrong with being humane? That's how you treat women and children isn't it, no matter the opinion, labels, or status. Bush signed the law.

Obama seeks change to law that protects immigrant kids (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/02/immigration-obama-deportation-children-border/11915723/)

There is nothing humane about this, Tal. The emperor is playing politics with the lives of children, and that is inexcusable. Don’t blame us.

His daddy came and got him. No ,he was snatched by the Clintoon INS and forcibly returned to a repressive regime.

you have to get real either you have an immigration program or you do not, either way anyone who turns up on your doorstep is not an immigrant and anyone who crosses the border is not an immigrant and if you are illegal then out you go, no matter who you are

Elián González affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli%C3%A1n_Gonz%C3%A1lez_affair)

The Gonzalez case was a custody battle. Revising history won't change it.

So on the record ... you are ok with snatching him and sending him back to a repressive regime .

Criminals... thats what you call people who flagrantly show no respect for our laws. That's exactly what all Illegals are.

So on the record ... you are ok with snatching him and sending him back to a repressive regime .

I am okay with the rule of law and due process working. That what the intent of the founders.

rule of law ? it's rare to hear those words from the left when the issue of immigration policy is discussed .

Could that be because you only recognize YOUR interpretation, and ignore any other?

no actually I know what the laws are . They just haven't been enforced ( except perhaps in the Elian Gonzalez case ).

Like I said, YOUR interpretation, YOUR perspective. One of many.

good for Tom he knows what laws are, next thing he will be telling us he knows what rules are

see the emperor went to a fundraiser in Colorado that the Rep he was campaigning for was a no show. Then the emperor went to a bar to drink beer and shoot pool . He was offered a hit from a joint but I guess even he thought that optic would be bad.
A Visual Guide to President Obama's Bizarre Trip to Denver - The Wire (http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/07/a-visual-guide-to-president-obamas-bizarre-trip-to-denver/374143/)

So then he went to Texas to do more fundraising .

What he didn't do was go to the border ,or to any of the bases that are holding these "refugees" (in many cases gang bangers from MS-13) .

Even Reps from his own party are disgusted with him.
Texas Dem: Obama actions ‘bizarre’ - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/texas-dem-obama-actions-bizarre-108718.html)

The emperor yesterday :


This isn’t theater. This is a problem. I’m not interested in photo ops, I’m interested in solving a problem.



The emperor today :

Hundreds line up for Obama speech tickets (http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local/2014/07/08/obama-speech-tickets/12355859/)

"The speech is free and open to the public,"

What are you whining about now?

just pointing out what a phoney he is. All he is and all he became was political theater backed by no substance .

Except that President photo-op did nothing but photo-ops on that trip... everywhere BUT at the border where the real issues he was hiding from were occurring.

Maybe he is telling you righty's after 6 years of hollering and calling names you can kiss his skinny black a$$!

Anybody heard from bad boy slick Rick Perry since he didn't want a photo op either? You think he went to those border towns in his own state? King Ronald told you to kiss his skinny old white a$$ and gave illegals amnesty, and he did it without building a fence.

yeah Reagan got played by the Dems pretty good on amnesty ... once burnt twice shy .

President Poo Pile can kiss my white A$$... I see him in a jail cell in his very near future... and its well deserved for acting like he's above the law for the last 6.5 years.

I will have a party on the day that happens.

Why let your noise maker and a tin foil pointy hat go to waste?

i don't think he has a tin foil hat that's why his brains are addled,

I don't have an Obama bobblehead turned into an alter that I worship like so many democrats have.

http://presidentialinaugurationgift.com/asset/item_image/Barack-Obama-Inauguration-Bobblehead.png

We don't worship Obama, we just think you guys are crazy, and WRONG about most things... almost everything.

Anyone who believes everything or even anything that professional liar says after all these years of his lies (the man hasn't been honest in his life)... whorships him to the point of fanatacism.

Tal I hear you but people flee over borders from conflicts they don't migrate halfway around the world. You have no doubt heard the term economic migrant and what we find is that fifty percent are economic migrants taking advantage of the situation to set themselves up. So when you get an Iranian, a Pakistani, a Sri lankan, an Indian they are not fleeing conflict, the same goes for your mexican, central american, south american, Haitian, cuban, and soon you will see ukrainians knocking at your door. Close yoir borders, give it a holiday, stop the bleeding heart nonsense, you have half your population as bad off as these people and adding to the queue doesn't help

you have half your population as bad off as these people and adding to the queue doesn't help

beginning to hear the backlash from American minorities.
Houston Black Woman EPIC Rant on Illegals - " Why Can't They Go Back ? " - Bernadette Lancelin - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcL259Tvvh4)

whorships him to the point of fanatacism.It's you who is fanatical about him - you post everyday about Obama. It consumes you. You have no life.

the president is their king, their god, a little tin god on oil wheels, of course they post about him everyday

beginning to hear the backlash from American minorities.
Houston Black Woman EPIC Rant on Illegals - " Why Can't They Go Back ? " - Bernadette Lancelin - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcL259Tvvh4)

You heard from one woman Tom, who happen to be black, and maybe she speaks for others, but maybe NOT, so why broad brush her opinion to AMERICAN MINORITIES?

Jesse Jackson hits Obama for putting immigrant children first - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/10/jesse-jackson-hits-obama-putting-immigrant-childre/)

Obama Derangement Syndrome is present here.

Where do you stand on this Tom? Texas politicians have known about these border crossings for years.

Tom's right wing, he's for border protection, right Tom?

Border protection 1st . I haven't changed and do not support the 2 faced Repubic politicians who favor this . As far as I'm concerned ,the best President to deal with this was Ike ,and his 'Bracero' program and 'Operation Wet Back'.

Doing nothing solve nothing Tom, and that's what we have now, unresolved issues.

Operation Wet Back was NOT doing nothing .

I specifically said NOW, read it again.

I agree doing nothing is not a solution. I'm for deportation and wall building ;and sending the national guard to the borders.

stop living in the past Tom this is now and solutions have to be found for people smuggling

we can start with the emperor NOT encouraging such behavior with his "catch and release" immigration policy . We can enforce existing law ,and repeal the 'William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008', signed into law by George W. Bush because part of this crisis is the unintended consequences of that law.
We can prosecute employers who hire illegals . If we don't deport then we can send all these "children " with the MS-13 gang tattoos ,and the pregnant teen moms who have come across the border to Nancy Pelosi's district and every declared "sanctuary city " . We can change naturalization laws so that their offspring aren't by law American citizens. We can issue biometric id cards for 'Americans only ',for voting and welfare benefits.

lot of work to do get to it

we can start with the emperor NOT encouraging such behavior with his "catch and release" immigration policy . We can enforce existing law ,and repeal the 'William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008', signed into law by George W. Bush because part of this crisis is the unintended consequences of that law.
We can prosecute employers who hire illegals . If we don't deport then we can send all these "children " with the MS-13 gang tattoos ,and the pregnant teen moms who have come across the border to Nancy Pelosi's district and every declared "sanctuary city " . We can change naturalization laws so that their offspring aren't by law American citizens. We can issue biometric id cards for 'Americans only ',for voting and welfare benefits.

You sound like one of those "nativist, isolationist voices (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/rep-sanchez-nativist-isolationist-voices-are-saying-send-them-all-back)" I've heard about. /sarc

send them to Linda Sanchez' district. I wonder how many of these "children " she'll adopt ???????

You want to stop this flow do something about problems at the source

Now you're talking Clete.

Nuke Central America?

send them to Linda Sanchez' district. I wonder how many of these "children " she'll adopt ???????

The state of Texas wants to take a few thousand to feed cloth and meet medical needs while the processing is done. Kind of proud of my state and the caring people who want to do what they can rather than holler, scream, and call names, and stop the government from doing it's job, under the law.

A bipartisan law signed by Bush. I give all credit where it's due.

They don't DESERVE anything... fingerprint them, photograph them... brand their forehead... give them a bologna sandwich and put them on a boat to Argentina.

They deserve the same as your immigrant ancestors got.

A bipartisan law signed by Bush. I give all credit where it's due.
it's called the unintended consequences of good intention.

They don't deserve that much... they didn't follow the law like our ancestors did... so they should be branded on their forehead, finger printed and photographed and sent back... if they get caught here again they should be shot on the spot. No second chances...no future applications ever considered once caught here illegally.

Our ancestors came here legally... something those criminals don't want to be bothered with doing. If they can't follow the law to come here legally from the very beginning...we don't ever want them here.

They deserve the same as your immigrant ancestors got.
Oh you mean like applying for Visas and being processed before entry .. You are right ,they do deserve that treatment.

You didn't all have visas, nor turned away after entry.

If we are going to turn back the clock for that one thing.. then lets turn back the clock for everything else... wouldn't want to appear racist after all... giveing a certain ethnic group special treatment.

Lets dial back taxes... and all other legislation and every other law and regulation back to that time frame to... lets be fair to everyone else as well.

so you don't think we should have a visa system for immigrant entry ? Maybe you think we should just open the borders and let the horde in . How many of these "children" are you adopting ?
I don't know if others did or not .... but my family came here legally ,and were processed before entry .

I think all of these mini-MS-13 scum should be sent to solid Democrat states... and paid for by those democrat majority states. Starting with California, Delaware, Illinois, and every other liberal haven. Which for the most part is NOT where Obama has been sending them WITHOUT EVEN NOTIFYING ANYONE in those states they were sent to, before, during or even after the fact.

I for one and damn sick and tired of paying higher proerty taxes to pay for the 28% of the illegals that infest our school system. None of whom pay taxes, much less property taxes. Send them all home....wherever they might be from. South of the border or across the ocean.

Visas? We don't need no stinkin' Visas, we're all connected, our doors are OPEN!

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I'm guessing you can't just walk into Congressman Lewis' home or office without some scrutiny.

I think stupid is barely scratching the surface of that iceberg.

I think your open door policy is wonderful, just let all the refugees, displaced, disaffected to come there as you once did, your population can swell to 1 billion, you can rival China and India and the rest of us catch a break

We can let them live in your outback... charge them rent and taxes... many of them are used to living where its hot and dry and eat dirt.

Let them live in your own out back you have plenty of deserts, our dirt isn't nutricous, remember the nullabor, no trees

Let them live at Luis Gutierrez' house.

I wonder how many gang bangers John Lewis will adopt .....oops I mean "children"

so lord of the flies coming true over there?

No Clete, just the right wing calling names again.

Yes there is much of that and now much opportunity to begin it anew with the loss of MH17

I'm waiting for the left to start blaming THAT on Bush too.

well I don't know they haven't established who sold who the SAM's yet or when, but Bush had a detente with Putin

The Obama regime has its priorities, 23 dead Americans and he's busy buying burgers, threatening Israel and the State Dept is in a world of their own.

https://twitter.com/statedeptspox/statuses/489944158203703296

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Obama also had a deal going with Putin where he would e more flexible after the election.(remember he was caught on an open microphone saying that)... maybe he had a part in shooting it down. Some deal so he could get political assylum after he leaves office before they can throw him in jail. Him and Snowden can be roomates in a Msocow flat.

yeah we had Barack-lock on the roads here yesterday .

flagship cruising again it is interesting that our leaders can get where they have to go without stopping traffic

Something that applies...


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back to what I was saying earlier gutless russians run away

Is this the BUK M2 rocket launcher that blasted Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 out of the sky? | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/world/is-this-the-buk-m2-rocket-launcher-that-blasted-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-out-of-the-sky/story-fndir2ev-1226994397743)

and by the way this has become personal with two members of my inlaws family dead on MH17

sorry to hear that . Condolences . Typically the Russians don't give sophisticated equipment away without a Russian advisory team on site to instruct ,supervise ,or actually man the equipment.

My condolences also Clete, and I hope they bring those murders to justice.

Yes we can start with Putin, I don't know how Abbott was restrained from declaring war and envoking the ANZUS Treaty

what use is a treaty if it doesn't work both ways?

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/malaysia-airlines-mh17-shot-down-over-ukraine-28-australians-among-298-dead/story-fnizu68q-1226992986807

This is the Lusitania all over again, If you haven't worked it out I am MAD!

This is the Lusitania all over again
yes ; eerily so

Or more recent history (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007). Eerie yes!

Here is what a real President sounds like .

President Reagan's Address to the Nation on the Soviet Attack on a Korean Airliner (KAL 007) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VA4W1wDMAk)

Or more recent history Eerie yes!

yes a very direct example of russian attitude and aggression, so was MH17 spying?

http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh17-crash-we-have-proof-that-russia-participated-in-missile-attack-ukraine-spy-chief-20140720-zuwws.html

Perhaps invoking the terms of ANZUS would force the emperor's hand. Clearly he is Hamlet and will waffle until a decision is forced upon him. (one red line crossed after another in the reign). He is very much like the 1st Ivy league egg head who occupied the Oval office; Woodrow Wilson ,who did not enter the war in 1915 when the Lusitania was sunk ,but instead waited until 1917 after the Zimmerman letter was revealed . By then ,the Tzar of Russia had abdicated ,with years of deprivation resulting in the Communist takeover. The Germans no longer fighting a 2 front war. The Brits were out of troops . The French mutinied . All that could've been avoided with an earlier US entry .

The difference between now and 100 years ago is that the dividing lines aren't as clear cut . You see it in Ukraine ,Mesopotamia ,in the greater Ummah ,and in the way the Chinese are salami slicing the South China Sea. From the emperor's perspective ,there is nothing we can do except draw more red lines to be crossed.
But ;if all the above develop to what appears to be the logical conclusion ; we will be ,and the system we defend ,in deep trouble ......the dissolution of the world system. The moment when the world realizes that the US is disengaged or taking a secondary role ,as the emperor and his court have advocated ,is the moment when it collapses.

Let's be clear . For the Dutch ,the downing of this jet was their equivalence of 9-11 . As a NATO member ,they have every right to invoke it's charter . This time ,if we wait until the world crisis gets out of control ,it will be too late.

Yes Tom clearly we have all had enough of this despot, however he is no Saddam. The Japanese lost WWII they should remember that with that comes a need to have a dialogue with their old enemies

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Tom I think that pic is somewhat racist

it's a fact ;MS-13 gangbangers are amongst the "children" ,and are actively recruiting youngsters.

yes well i suppose there is only one way something like that is going to get in the country

it's a fact ;MS-13 gangbangers are amongst the "children" ,and are actively recruiting youngsters.

Those must be the "children" Rick Perry is sending the NG to shoot. (https://twitter.com/politicoroger/status/491398644940419072)

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Roger Simon has lost his mind.

just leftist rhetoric Tom someone is always exaggerating something fro political gain, he isn't concerned about the children althought soem might be inadvertantly hurt

Roger Simon has lost his mind.His tweet isn't very different than many of smoothy's posts.

His tweet isn't very different than many of smoothy's posts.

Sniping from the cheap seats again.

Selective outrage.

BTW what is "the cheap seats" on a discussion board?

His tweet isn't very different than many of smoothy's posts.

As opposed to yours that sound like the average Alien abduction believer talking about his last abduction from his trailer in the trailer park with the sofa on the front porch while carrying a six pack he keeps drinking from (which is clearly their second for the evening).

Do you believe in bigfoot too?

As opposed to yours that sound like the average Alien abduction believer talking about his last abduction from his trailer in the trailer park with the sofa on the front porch while carrying a six pack he keeps drinking from (which is clearly their second for the evening).What the hell is that ramble? LOL! You are good for a laugh.

We know you founded the Bigfoot watchers association...

Ok, I did. Now what?

sniping from the cheap seats


Statler and waldorf (excellent) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14njUwJUg1I)

Totally irrelevant but brought back memories.

We know you founded the Bigfoot watchers association...


I'm into watching Yowies myself and Bunyips, they are just a delight, but the best are the drop bears

DROP BEARS: Attack! of the Killer Koalas - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpueTOCRrxc)

I also recommend the Yahoo

The emperor had a sit down with new' Meet the Press' host Chucky Todd (airing this morning ) . Todd tried to pin the emperor down on why he has not issued executive orders on amnesty . This question comes in the wake of the emperor's decision to wait until after the mid-term elections to issue them .
Activist for the illegals are squawking about a betrayal ;but this is just the emperor playing 'raw politics' (in Speaker Bonehead's words ) . The emperor had promised in June that he would take 'swift action' .But ,he knows that his intentional non-enforcement of immigration laws and border control has turned the tide of public opinion against any plan for amnesty . He knows issuing them now would be the final nail in the Democrat's chances of retaining the Senate . This decision however is bound to split the Dems over this issue ,pitting Senators like Bob Menendez, who wants immediate action ,with Senators like Bill Nelson ,Kay Hagan ,Jeanne Shaheen ,and Mark Pryor ,who urged the emperor to wait . Most of the Dems in competitive races want this delay.

I remember when we didn't have big explosions a few days apart
Explosions (http://media.watoday.com.au/news/national-news/massive-explosions-near-morwell-5740073.html)

Truck explosion injures eight, closes Mitchell Highway (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/truck-explosion-injures-eight-closes-mitchell-highway-20140906-10dam3.html)

More bodies pulled from rubble of Rozelle explosion (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/more-bodies-pulled-from-rubble-of-rozelle-explosion-20140905-10cyh4.html)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-07/townsville-man-shoots-volcano-video/5726034

The emperor had a sit down with new' Meet the Press' host Chucky Todd (airing this morning ) . Todd tried to pin the emperor down on why he has not issued executive orders on amnesty . This question comes in the wake of the emperor's decision to wait until after the mid-term elections to issue them .
Activist for the illegals are squawking about a betrayal ;but this is just the emperor playing 'raw politics' (in Speaker Bonehead's words ) . The emperor had promised in June that he would take 'swift action' .But ,he knows that his intentional non-enforcement of immigration laws and border control has turned the tide of public opinion against any plan for amnesty . He knows issuing them now would be the final nail in the Democrat's chances of retaining the Senate . This decision however is bound to split the Dems over this issue ,pitting Senators like Bob Menendez, who wants immediate action ,with Senators like Bill Nelson ,Kay Hagan ,Jeanne Shaheen ,and Mark Pryor ,who urged the emperor to wait . Most of the Dems in competitive races want this delay.

Tom you are on the horns of dilemma, you either deport the lot or keep the lot, the middle gound is littlered with good intentions. You just have to build that wall higher and deeper if you want to keep those hispanics out, otherwise you create an orderly migration process. Tell you what there is a simple solution, give California, New Mexico, and Arizona back. You are not really losing anything, because it might tip the balance of power and allow those conservatives to regain control, not only of the borders but of the senate and you lose millions of illegals in the process with an assurance that there might be massive hispanic migration to those lands leaving the rest of the country in peace and without the responsibility