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paraclete
Jun 27, 2014, 11:00 PM
or a recognition of lost empire. Hillary thinks we are playing fast and loose, but this is the consequence of writing free trade agreements that benefit yourselves and beggar your neighbour. We arn't some Georgia farm boys looking for a Washington handout and now that your multinationals are packing up and going home, protecting their collective butts, we have news for you, we have been down this road before

Hillary Clinton criticises Australia for two-timing America with China (http://www.smh.com.au/world/hillary-clinton-criticises-australia-for-twotiming-america-with-china-20140627-zso6c.html)

I would like to remind Hillary that at one time the UK considered Australia a captive market but their interests diverged and we took our business elsewhere.
I would also remind her that attacking an ally will not get you into the White House. While you were stealing our markets we found ways to compete and out compete. While you were destroying the financial world, we found markets you neglected. You need our bases to shorten your travel time and spread your influence, don't talk yourselves out of a good deal

Catsmine
Jun 28, 2014, 02:51 AM
(Where'd that sarcasm font go again?) How dare you displease Her Hillaryness!

Tuttyd
Jun 28, 2014, 03:14 AM
As Elmer Fudd would say, "She don't know us very well.. hrr hrr hrr.

paraclete
Jun 28, 2014, 04:00 AM
We might exist under the protem governance of a monarch but we accept no pretenders

tomder55
Jun 28, 2014, 06:49 AM
she aint going to be the Dem nominee. I think they will go even more radical left with someone like Elizabeth Warren .

paraclete
Jun 28, 2014, 06:51 AM
So you think it's got to be a woman, well she couldn't do any worse than the present contenders

tomder55
Jun 28, 2014, 07:02 AM
no but Warren is the most visible and ambitious amongst them besides Evita . The Dems rarely give it to the next in line . That was true of the nominations of McGovern ,Carter ,Dukakis ,Clintoon ,and the emperor .

paraclete
Jun 28, 2014, 04:17 PM
There IS a line?

tomder55
Jun 28, 2014, 04:45 PM
sorta ; Evita right now is the consensus front runner amongst the chattering class of "experts " . But all of the ones I mentioned came from nowhere to take the nomination. I actually think it's a better way than the Repubics who actually do have a bit of a hierarchy and gave us such stalwarts as Bob Dole , John McCain and Mitt Romney .

paraclete
Jun 28, 2014, 06:35 PM
So if I get this right you form the line on the right or the left but that sounds like a short line on the right and only one at the head of the line on the left, Not much imagination, but I expect it is because of the money problem, noone young enough can get enough support

tomder55
Jun 28, 2014, 06:54 PM
huh ? The young and inexperienced emperor cut right in front of the line . So did a relatively young Clintoon (at least he had spent some time as Governor . The emperor stayed in the Senate long enough to find the bathroom...and if Warren runs the same will apply).

paraclete
Jun 28, 2014, 06:56 PM
well that might be qualification enough

talaniman
Jun 28, 2014, 07:24 PM
Dems nominate a candidate, repubs select the next guy in line. Let see who was behind Romney? Or is it Romney again? Naw, a winger will take it this time, they've had enough of the establishment.

paraclete
Jun 28, 2014, 11:14 PM
a winger like Palin?

tomder55
Jun 29, 2014, 01:50 AM
the people you call 'wingers' did NOT support Romney during the primaries and gave him at best lukewarm support during the general election.

paraclete
Jun 29, 2014, 02:28 AM
hey it's your term not mine, I see winger as synomous with TP or wingnut which ever fits

tomder55
Jun 29, 2014, 04:54 AM
my early support is going to Scott Walker . Neither ,a 'winger ' or a ' TP 'or a 'wingnut'. He's a governor who has initiated needed reforms in his state despite crazed over-the- top opposition by his opponents . In doing this he has survived the countless arrows launched against him including recall votes ,baseless charges , slander and libel , frivolous suits, and criminal probes . Demented Dem prosecutors in Wisconsin have been conducting a John Doe probe for the last few years, bottom feeding in an effort to find something....anything with which to try him. In doing this ,they have been assisted by the compliant press which has given him unrelenting negative press ,and have published outright lies and brazen untruths as fact . And still he survived and pressed on implementing his reforms .

paraclete
Jun 29, 2014, 05:54 AM
so no pressure then

talaniman
Jun 29, 2014, 07:08 AM
Associated Press (http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d281c11a96b4ad082fe88aa0db04305/Article_2014-06-19-US--Wisconsin%20Governor-Investigation/id-f826641503a245e7af0ba9c0f76722a7)

Prosecutors, including Schmitz and Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm, have appealed the matter to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals. Chisholm is a Democrat, and Schmitz has described himself as a Republican who voted for Walker.

Per usual your facts are selective.

tomder55
Jun 29, 2014, 09:15 AM
they are appealing as in their original charges were thrown out .

talaniman
Jun 29, 2014, 09:40 AM
That's the process and many of Walker's former aides have gone to jail, and a few more appear to be on the way.

tomder55
Jun 29, 2014, 12:43 PM
Schmitz backtracked Thurs and said Walker was never the subject of a criminal probe and was not involved in a criminal "scheme" . This is the Christie persecution all over again. This is all political grandstanding designed to give Dem candidate Mary Burke an issue to run on.

talaniman
Jun 29, 2014, 03:07 PM
I don't know Tom, mighty suspicious when you're the boss and all your aides are going to jail. Thats more than just grandstanding. Just sayin'!

paraclete
Jun 29, 2014, 05:00 PM
why do you side with these losers?

tomder55
Jun 30, 2014, 03:07 AM
tal ;all unproven inuendo . Of course the accusations made front page news in the Slimes. The news that no broad conclusions could be drawn from the documents uncovered, in an effort that has already been dismissed by judges as a politicized fishing expedition ,was buried deep inside the paper . But not to worry tal ,the endless repetition of the word “criminal” in the same sentence with Walker’s name will do enough damage to even the odds in the Wisconsin gubernatorial race.

paraclete
Jun 30, 2014, 04:05 AM
I wonder when we are going to get back to the op