She's just one of us (http://time.com/2847815/hillary-clinton-book-speeches/). The poor things were dead broke and in debt when they left the White House.


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton defended her high-dollar speaking gigs in a new interview, saying she and former President Bill Clinton needed the money after leaving the White House.“We came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt,” she told ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-defends-high-dollar-speaking-fees/story?id=24052962) in an interview airing Monday night. “We had no money when we got there, and we struggled to, you know, piece together the resources for mortgages, for houses, for Chelsea’s education. You know, it was not easy.”
As in, plural mortgagees and plural houses.

As if we all have multiple houses, mortgages and a $106 million dollar speaking circuit to pay those debts? Sorry, I don't feel your pain.

Funny how it's OK when Palin does it.

Hillary is a huge pain in the rump for everyone. The witch in incapible of feeling pain. You have to have a conscience and a soul to feel pain, she has neither. But she is really good at causing pain for everyone near her.


I've actually met them both...and not in a public setting on camera. Politally I did not like Bill, but he had personality traits that did not make him unlikeable as person.

Hillary is just a flat out shrew....unlikeable in every way. I gave him a free pass for all his extramarital affairs after meeting her.....she must have something on him if he hasn't tossed her along side the road yet.

When Palin does what?

Earning money.

isn't that why she wrote amemoir ,and made the title of it the same as a previous Sec State of a failed Presidency ?
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Then again ....wouldn't the title 'Hard Choices ' be more appropriate for Bubba ?

What does it matter to you?

I have no issue with anyone making money, It’s the hypocrisy.

@NK. Like your questions

Feel free to ignore my posts tickle.

Speech: there's enough hypocrisy on both sides to keep you busy for a millennia.

No doubt, but this thread is about Hillary's hypocrisy. I don't consider anyone "dead broke" that owns multiple multimillion dollar homes and recieved an $8 miilion book advance when she left the White House "dead broke." Do you?

The same rules don't apply to rich liberals as apply to rich conservatives. Being liberal gives them a free pass on EVERYTHING they like to complain about... and anything they never thought to complain about.

Evita is so poor she could only send Chelsea to Stanford , Oxford and Columbia Universities .
Evita is so poor she doesn't have the money to invest in cattle futures for a 1000% profit .
Evita is so poor that all her political offices have been hand me downs .
Evita is so poor that some of her houses don't have ocean views.
Evita is so poor that she had to steal the White House silverware ,china ,and furniture just to furnish one of her homes .

“It’s expensive being a Clinton.”

“It's expensive being a Clinton.”

And the target of Clinton haters that fear she will be the next president. Your last rich guy lost, maybe our rich girl will too, who you got against her?

Romney successfully run a number of businesses... Evita has done WHAT exactly as an accomplishment to be proud of? Benghazi?

she was able to conceal FBI files in her office.

Evita is poor .... what difference does it make ?

During her postgraduate study, Rodham served as staff attorney for Edelman's newly founded Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts,[53] and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children.[54] In 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C. advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.[55]Under the guidance of Chief Counsel John Doar and senior member Bernard Nussbaum,[36] Rodham helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.
There, in February 1977, Rodham joined the venerable Rose Law Firm, a bastion of Arkansan political and economic influence.[71] She specialized in patent infringement and intellectual property law[34] while also working pro bono in child advocacy;[72] she rarely performed litigation work in court.[73]
Rodham maintained her interest in children's law and family policy, publishing the scholarly articles "Children's Policies: Abandonment and Neglect" in 1977[74] and "Children's Rights: A Legal Perspective" in 1979.[75] The latter continued her argument that children's legal competence depended upon their age and other circumstances and that in serious medical rights cases, judicial intervention was sometimes warranted.[51] An American Bar Association chair later said, "Her articles were important, not because they were radically new but because they helped formulate something that had been inchoate."[51] Historian Garry Wills would later describe her as "one of the more important scholar-activists of the last two decades",[76] while conservatives said her theories would usurp traditional parental authority,[77] allow children to file frivolous lawsuits against their parents,[51] and argued that her work was legal "crit" theoryrun amok.[78]In 1977, Rodham cofounded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund.[34][79] Later that year, President Jimmy Carter (for whom Rodham had been the 1976 campaign director of field operations in Indiana)[80] appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation,[81] and she served in that capacity from 1978 until the end of 1981.[82] From mid-1978 to mid-1980,[nb 4] she served as the chair of that board, the first woman to do so.[83] During her time as chair, funding for the Corporation was expanded from $90 million to $300 million; subsequently she successfully fought President Ronald Reagan's attempts to reduce the funding and change the nature of the organization.[72]
Clinton appointed her chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee the same year,[84] where she secured federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas's poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.[85]
In 1979, Rodham became the first woman to be made a full partner of Rose Law Firm

You can cut and paste propaganda with the best of them. Problem is like most propaganda... its mostly manure.

I'm sure Bill feels our pain... he actually has to live with that shrew.

Feel free to counter the facts of her employment with facts that show otherwise. If you can't then you are the one full of manure.
Better go back to DC Clothesline for you.

We could compare resumes if you had a candidate. See who had the most manure and propaganda. Democrats everywhere are chomping at the bit for the republican clown circus to hit the fan... again.

Well lets just say I know a dozen people personally that worked inside the Clinton administration (meaning DIRECTLY with them)... and they ALL said she was an arrogant Biotch who bloviated constantly and lied frequently. I've actually personally worked with her once on a project over several days myself so I am in a position of offering my opinion.

You cut and pasted something off the internet. Hmmmmm, I'll call your stuff a steaming pile.

Evita was fired from the Watergate inquiry and her former boss regrets he didn't persue legal action against her for unethical behavior.
And of course she wiggled out of serious charges involving White Water during her time at Rose Law.

Hillary’s resume? Even she can’t think of anything she’s accomplished. But it is amusing watching lefties still whining about rich Republicans while defending this entitled 1 percenter that thinks she was "dead broke."

Naw, the amusement starts when republicans find a better slimeball than democrats.

Well lets just say I know a dozen people personally that worked inside the Clinton administration (meaning DIRECTLY with them)I highly doubt that.

I've actually personally worked with her once on a project over several days myselfNo you didn't

No one is defending Hillary. She is indeed another one of the 1%, something that we will never achieve. Not sure why you spend so much time on these elites. But she is indeed more accomplished than any one on this board.

But she is indeed more accomplished than any one on this board

Yup, she managed to preside over a State Dept that mistranslated a stolen hotel button to “overcharge” Russia, and get a US Ambassador and 3 other Americans killed. But what difference at this point does it make?

Care to prove that I don't?

There are logs that prove I was.

Benghazi is one hell of an accomplishment... I'd rather not aspire to match that disaster... I have higher standards than that.

Care to prove that I don't?Proving a negative? Logic, science and math are not your strong points.

You seem to ace in stupidity... and bloviating about stuff you don't have a clue about.

And you proved how little you do know about a lot right there... because you don't know squat about the work I do and have done. Where I've been and haven't. You probibly believe bigfoot exists and in alien abductions too if you think Hillary has actually accomplished anything of merit in her life.

You seem like an angry little man.

She may be a rose compared to who the republicans nominate and even though you guys know its true, you ignore it to stick to your rock throwing. That's cool for now, but you won't be able to hide behind the "get Hillary" bunker for long, and hope you can duck when its democrats turn to throw rocks at your nominee.

So enjoy your Karl Rove circle jerk while you can. I know you will.

No... you sound like an angry little man that's upset he's had a boring life...in Canada

The Shocking Truth About Alien Abductions (Powerful Video Evidence) | Collective-Evolution (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/11/04/the-shocking-truth-about-alien-abductions/)

Just like Hillary's "accomplishments" that's on the internet so it must be true as well.

Hillary's "accomplishments" convieniently leave out her being in contempt of court for over 9 months, and her responsibility for the death of Emabasador Stephens and the other three people at Benghazi... those are after all things a liberal should be proud of.

Including her guilt in Whitewater, Travelgate, FIlegate.. haing VIncent Foster killed in Ft Marcy Park... and numerous other crimes.

She makes Al Capone look like a simple tax cheat.

Must we still insult others?

Well smooth, I got the info from Wiki. All the accomplishments have sources ascribed to them. You could easily follow the sources.

But hating all things liberal seems like religious dogma to you so it follows that no facts will change your mind.

She may be a rose compared to who the republicans nominate and even though you guys know its true yeah no doubt the Repubic leadership is hell bent on shooting themselves in the foot . For what it's worth ,I'm on the Scott Walker bandwagon which will guarantee he don't get the nod.
Evita shouldn't feel too confident . If the Dem heir apparent isn't the VP then they typically pick an upstart that comes out of no-where . Recent examples are McGovern ,Carter ,Dukakis ,Bubba Clintoon ,and of course the emperor.
Look for a suprise challenger like Elizabeth Warren from the extreme left to get the nod.

Yeah... its well know wikipedia NEVER EVER makes a mistake, they are absolutely right ALL the time... and they never have a LIBERAL bias to their stuff despite being wholly run by a bunch of liberals...

Try using Wikipedia to back up a single case in any court... and you will get laughed out of the courtroom because only fools believe everything they find in it.

All things liberal are wothj hating because give a liberal their way...and they will ruin anything and everything. Because a libtard lives in a land of fantasy....where reality and the law of physics don't exist.

Try using Wikipedia to back up a single case in any court.Is this something you would do? LOL! We're not in court here. Just follow sources links or find the source documentation. Surely not everyone has set up fake pages on known sites to conspire against you.

Right... and if it's a "source" that's inaccurate often enough to be prohibited from being used as evidence in court... its a BS source for everything else too.

They have people on the internet that swear alien abductions are real... you might even be one of them. Doesn't mean they are because you say they are.

Right... and if it's a "source" that's inaccurate often enough to be prohibited from being used as evidence in court... its a BS source for everything else too.So everything you post here from internet sources is bull$hit?

I see you feel the average liberal "journalist" publishes bovine excrement too... I see I'm making progress... You might have some hope yet.

Ok, we can now discount information from all websites as not trustworthy sources of information. So what's left?

Include newspapers and most TV and radio media as well for prodigious producers of bovine excrement... they have all been completely biased going as far as protecting Obama and hiding most stories that were not flattering to him when if it was a Republican its ALL anyone would ever hear about all the time.

Pantsuits is just a sweetheart of a lady, or is that "cis-woman"?


If Hillary Clinton runs, and wins the Presidential race in 2016, the Republicans won't be the only ones with agita. The Secret Service, who have tangled with Hillary since she became First Lady in 1993, will also be quaking in their lace-ups.

Hillary has been known to hurl a book at the back of the head of one agent driving her in the Presidential limo accusing him of eavesdropping, forget her p's and q's by never thanking her protectors and lob profanity-laced orders when she just wanted the agents to carry her bags - a job not on agents' 'to do' list.

'Stay the f**k away from me! Just f*****g do as I say!!!' she is quoted as saying to an agent who refused to carry her luggage in the book Unlimited Access by FBI agent Gary Aldridge.


Read more: 'Get the f*** away from me,' Hillary Clinton shouted at minder who refused to carry her bag. She treated Secret Service like 'hired help.' Bill was a softie - but hard to manage, says former agent in bombshell expose | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2653420/Get-f-away-Hillary-Clinton-shouted-minder-refused-carry-bag-She-treated-Secret-Service-like-hired-help-Bill-softie-hard-manage-says-former-agent-bombshell-expose.html#ixzz34LGW6tec)

If she wins we'll at least have someone more manly than the pantywaist-in-chief we now have.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/like-bill-hillary-feels-your-pain-793929-4.html#post3658376


Must we still insult others?

As in, other members of this board. The provoking is beyond tiresome.

Pantsuits is just a sweetheart of a lady, or is that "cis-woman"?



If she wins we'll at least have someone more manly than the pantywaist-in-chief we now have.


THe people I knew in that administration told me that sort of thing long before it ever was reported on... and they were unanimous in their opinion about what an egotistical witch she was. Adn that was DURING his first administration.

The couple of secret service people I knew (now retired) weren't even that nice with their opinions of her.

Sounds like she will make a wonderful President and won't take any guff from anyone!

She sounds like a spoiled, rich, bratty diva.

Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot didn't take any guff... I guess they were wonderful leaders...


It takes a LOT more than unbridled arrogance to make a good president. Obama has proven arrogance alone gets you nowhere.

I guess if you had a seance with Vincent Fosters spirit....he would NOT have anything good to say about Hillary because hes dead because of her.

Not to mention the FOUR dead people in Bebghazi.

As in, other members of this board.So you make a distinction between insulting someone who isn't here and insulting someone who is? Seems like the former is a wussy thing to do.

She sounds like a spoiled, rich, bratty diva.
If she were a Republican, you wouldn't think so. She'd be in the groove!

So you make a distinction between insulting someone who isn't here and insulting someone who is?

No, I'd insult her in person, too, not just provoke others while hiding behind a computer screen.

If she were a Republican, you wouldn't think so. She'd be in the groove!

Not at all. I don't differentiate between Republican jerks and Democrat jerks. But which spoiled, rich, bratty diva Republican might you have in mind?

The former Alaskan half term governor comes to mind.

You beat me to it, tal! Darn this virtual keyboard!

Palin didn't get ANYONE killed because she refused to do her job.. The shrew had Vincent Foster killed, as well as Ambassador Stephens and three other Americans in Benghazi while SHE was on duty and responsible. "What difference does it make..." in her shrill shrew-like voice was all she could muster for a response

I could have guessed that was your choice, what kind of spoiled, rich, bratty diva behavior are you referring to? I guess I must have missed where she's acted anything like what was described about poor, "dead broke", mild mannered Evita.

provoke others while hiding behind a computer screenYou basically described the Current Events board LOL.

Touring the country like a rockstar in a huge garish bus ain't ratty diva behavior?

palin tour bus - Bing Images (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=palin+tour+bus&id=0B847B794B86FBD720C83BFAACD3C671B02543F9&FORM=IQFRBA)

Naw she ain't doing it for attention. And she ain't running for office either!

Yup, that looks pretty bratty, lol.



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http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/sarah-palin-bus-tour.jpg

http://www.kaltoons.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Palin-bus-tour-web1.jpg


She rides while other RUN!

So... She's running again. No didn't think so, or is this more of the Blame bush for everything logic the left has followed the last 6.5 years?

Your right, she isn't a dive just a hustler of diva stuff!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JDbrFlATHKg/TeZ1wwwPBtI/AAAAAAAAYog/64vN0aow-6A/s1600/Sarah+Palin%2527s+Bus+Tour.jpg

Girl gotta make a living!

Hillary "Medussa" Clinton campaign slogan... "If you didn't think Obama was horrific, wait until you see what I'll do."

Cartoons and bus photos don't demonstrate spoiled rich, bratty behavior. Lying about being a "dead broke" homey while in reality being a multimillionaire with multiple multimillion dollar homes and treating your protectors like sh*t does.

Possible Hillary campaign slogan... "Sure I might ruin whats left of the economy...vote for me...what difference does it make"

Another possible Hillary campaign slogan... " The last guy didn't have a clue what he was doing either so vote for me, what difference does it make anyway".

That should have been the name of her book, "What Difference At This Point Does It Make"? Although naming it after a porn film is probably appropriate, too.

That should have been the name of her book, "What Difference At This Point Does It Make"? Although naming it after a porn film is probably appropriate, too.

You mean... "Grab your ankles, here I come"?

Evita is so poor her carpetbag is a Gucci knockoff.
Evita is so poor that her phone to take the 3AM call was disconnected on the night of 9-11-12.
Evita is so poor that she spent all the money missing from the State Dept.
$6 Billion Went Missing From Hillary Clinton's State Department...Where Did The Money Go? - Fox Nation (http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/04/07/6-billion-went-missing-hillary-clintons-state-departmentwhere-did-money-go)

Right wingers here sink to levels unheard of, it's embarrassing.

I didn't realize they did that in Canada... here it's the liberals that do that.

"here" = AMHD.
Didn't think I'd have to spell that out for you but, well, there you go.

That should have been the name of her book, "What Difference At This Point Does It Make"? Although naming it after a porn film is probably appropriate, too.
I thought she did ......'Hard Choices '..... although that would probably be a better title of the Bubba memoir.

Yup, she did, that what I was referring to.

Clinton Book Shares Title With Classic Porno | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/09/clinton-book-shares-title-with-classic-porno/)

Right wingers here sink to levels unheard of, it's embarrassing.

You're just jealous that we're wittier than you.

Hillary who?

here's some trivia . The last President who became President after being a Sec State was James Buchanan in 1856 . All he did was preside over the dissolution of the union prior to the Civil War making him until now ,the worse President in US history .

James Buchanan was only the worst president in US history... UNTIL Obama came along.

Obama may yet surprise you

Nope... we know exactly what is going to do.. and we know how much he is capable of making everything far worse than he has already.

At least his daughters don't get drunk at parties.

... that you know of.

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Nope. Grandma keeps a good eye on them.

Zeifman looks like Woody Allen.

He does resemble him, doesn't he.

Grandma who?

Grandma Robinson, Michelle's mom. She lives at the WH and rides herd on the girls.

Maureen Dowd compares Evita to the frozen hearted Elsa the Snow Queen of Disney's 'Frozen' today in the Slimes.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/opinion/sunday/maureen-dowd-when-will-hillary-let-it-go.html?_r=0

Of course the underlying premise ;that Evita's heart is filled with good just waiting to come out is the flaw in the column. We are talking about the person who lied to the parents of our dead heroes of Benghazi by claiming that they would get the maker of that video ;knowing that the Benghazi attack had nothing to do with a video. That was about as cold and empty hearted as it gets.

Chelsea set herself up with a cool no show job with NBC . $ 600,000 for being on air for about an hour throughout the time of her 1 year contract. Here is one of her hard hitting interviews .

Chelsea Clinton talks to Geico’s Gecko - Video on NBCNews.com (http://www.nbcnews.com/video/rock-center/51666976#51666976)

And proof positive of the lame stream media not only being in bed with the democrat party, but having incestuous relationships with them.

You guys are hilarious, so just some facts,

Chelsea Clinton made $600,000 from NBC news gig: Report - MSN TV News (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=872968&ocid=ansent11)


Chelsea Clinton was paid an annual salary of $600,000 to be a special correspondent for NBC News (http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/chelsea-clinton-joining-nbc-news-special-correspondent-32746/), according to a report by Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/chelsea-clinton-nbc-600-k-salary-107827.html).
Clinton did a few features for "Rock Center (https://www.bing.com/search?q=rock%20center%20with%20brian%20williams%2 0tv%20show&filters=ufn%3a%22rock%20center%20with%20brian%20wi lliams%20tv%20show%22+sid%3a%22f2d7ae0e-ea41-eeed-e0e0-7e6d10ca00df%22&FORM=BWEMTV) With Brian Williams (https://www.bing.com/search?q=brian%20williams&filters=ufn%3a%22brian%20williams%22+sid%3a%225982 11d1-f33e-3a00-7f3a-cc417dd64417%22&FORM=BWEMTV)" until it was canceled in June 2013, including a notorious interview with the Geico Gecko (http://www.nbcnews.com/video/rock-center/51666976#51666976), and has contributed to NBC Nightly News (https://www.bing.com/search?q=nbc%20nightly%20news&filters=ufn%3a%22nbc%20nightly%20news%22+sid%3a%22 327d9811-f8b8-8f19-ba6b-ff908209804e%22&FORM=BWEMTV) packages.
She reportedly is still being paid on a month-to-month basis, though it is unclear if she'll continue to work with the network after she gives birth to her first child, due this fall. Clinton's gig could also be in jeopardy should her mother choose to run for president.


At least get the story straight if you are going to go into the soaring rhetoric of right wing hollering mode. You are a year behind and this is supposed to be the Current Events forum.

it still happened ;right ? I did not claim it happened this year. Obviously she already had her deep probing interview with the lizard aired .

If it was a Cheney, Rumsfeld or a Bush.. instead of a Clinton could you imagine the howling from the left?

They did far worse than interview a lizard.

I think the word is pathetic Tal

Evita on at least 2 interviews tonight on FOX . Bret Baier and Greta . How many softballs will she hit out of the park ? She'd impress me if she sat on the panel on Baier's show and answered George Will and Charles Krauthammer's questions .

Softballs?... more like Nerfballs.

The Washington Free Beacon was informed this week that it has been banned from the University of Arkansas’ special collections archive, a sharp and somewhat unexpected response to the news group’s recent reporting on Hillary Clinton’s 1975 defense of an accused child rapist. …
News organization banned from university's archives for researching Hillary Clinton: How will the rest of the media respond? | WashingtonExaminer.com (http://washingtonexaminer.com/news-organization-banned-from-universitys-archives-for-researching-hillary-clinton-how-will-the-rest-of-the-media-respond/article/2550013)

Even the Boston Globe thinks the Clintonoids at U of A have gone too far.
U. Arkansas should keep Clinton records open even to Clinton critics - Editorials - The Boston Globe (http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2014/07/04/arkansas-should-keep-clinton-records-open-even-clinton-critics/N6kT533zWg23LMrIGH1IHP/story.html)

Tom, this is just another political beat-up. The rules a lawyer has to follow in regards to defending their client are extensive and prescriptive. It is not as simple as someone in the legal profession having a disposition to defending a person in society who frequents a particular repugnant aesthetic.

So Tom, these people know she has done something wrong in terms of legalese. If so tell us all about it.

That would be the typical lawyer speak dodge. The fact is that she was bragging about her tactics ;especially how she brutalized the rape victim. That is why the Clintonoids are coming down so hard on the leak of the audio. The misogynistic left may excuse that lawyer tactic ,but they then should not be suprised when they get called out for their hypocrisy .

Lawyer speak is all that counts in your legal and political arena. Just ask SCOTUS... that sums up the lawyer tactic.

Your whole political system is geared toward this end, yet you complain when some points this out. Tell us about some higher morality that manages to lift itself above all of this.

the political reality is that if I was running against Evita ,I would use the audio tape over and over again in political ads ;especially if she tried to bring up the canard about a Republican "war against women" .
Let her try to justify it as nothing more than 'lawyer speak" . She has a history of being a bully against women . We knew of that from her 'bimbo eruption' responses during Bubba's career . Now we know it goes back even further to the point of her bragging about brutalizing a rape victim on the witness stand .

Yes, I have no doubt that the whole business was revolting and disgusting.

You were expecting something other than this to crawl out from under your political system?

And your's like all the others are so perfect that this never ever happens?

I thought I just acknowledged that this sort of awfulness is a reality.

So why the need of saying "YOUR political system" when its endemic with every political system. At least the ones where the opposition isn't fed to starving dogs kept for that purpose.

sunshine is the disinfectant no ? So the news organization ,doing it's proper role in a free country gets punished for the revelation.

I only said it because it appears that some people don't know this, or don't care to know this.

Yes, Tom I would say it is a good thing. The problem being that even a little bit of sunshine on the Ivy League causes a lot of wilting on the vine... if you know what I mean.

A good gardener prunes the vine, a bad one cuts the whole thing down. Tom doesn't want a vine.

what part of the vine is Evita on ?

You aren't the gardener, and the electorate will decide if she goes, or stays. Depending on how the rest of the vine looks to them.

Apparently Evita is supposed to look broke to them.

Hillary doubles down on being broke. (https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hillary-doubles-down-being-broke-we-couldnt-even-get-mortgage-house-ourselves_796256.html)

You aren't the gardener, and the electorate will decide if she goes, or stays. Depending on how the rest of the vine looks to them.

We already know that the emperor is the gardener ....and he's already decided that the blonde hair blue eye native American is his heir apparent .
This means Warren: Obama backs challenger to Hillary | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2014/07/06/this-means-warren-obama-backs-challenger-to-hillary/)

The executive shares responsibility with the other branches of government. So say the founders.

Shares, not dictates.

Presidents cannot dictate.

Someone needs to tell Obama that... he has been ignoring the memos...

Evita is ' hil' ~arious . She is using her 2012 brokered ceasefire deal between Hamas and Israel in her campaign as some kind of achievement . Part of the deal was that Israel would ease it's ban on shipping building supplies like cement and steel into Gaza .Even though Hamas had a well known history of diverting aid ,she believed them when they claimed they needed the supplies for infrastructure in Gaza. Little did she know that the infrastructure they would build would not be homes ,bridges etc. ,but an intricate network of terror tunnels. She states in her new biography that "my diplomatic intervention was the only thing standing in the way of a much more explosive confrontation."
She considers that an 'achievement' worthy of running for the highest office in the country . All she achieved was guaranteeing that the next time Hamas violated a ceasefire ,and confronted Israel militarily ,that it would be a bloodier affair.

Everyone knows she liked to prance around in a brown shirt, Nazi hat, and fishnet stockings and stilleto heels with a riding crop. With a Swaztika flag on the wall, all while raving about a "final solution.

Thats why Bill was chasing after Monica Lewinski, he developed hemeroids.

Yup, they planned to use some of those tunnels to target Israeli kindergartens (http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/27/stories-from-the-battlefield-hamas-tunnels-used-to-target-israels-kindergartens/#ixzz38o07e37G). Nice job Hillary.

So you are proving that it would be better if the US stayed out of the negotiations

absolutely ... frankly the Israelis are getting tired of the US imposing solutions that will eventually cause more Israeli loss of life.

Yes no one is concerned about palestinian loss of life

Yet the israelis will gladly take the billions of dollars that the US hands over to them every year.

What has that to do with anything? You think it should come with strings attached? Kill a palestinian terrorist and we take away your funding. Perspective, the State of Israel does not attack the palestinians without provacation so the palestinians should tell hamas they have had enough instead of condoning it

Why are they getting money in the first place? Using the big business model, if they can't make a go of it on their own them let them fail.

If Hillary actually felt ANY of our pain... she would be the leading user of Oxycodone.

Karma, as an outpost of western civilization in the east and for various obvious racial reasons they are supported. Without support the arab/muslim world may find a solution no one wants

as an outpost of western civilization in the east and for various obvious racial reasons they are supportedThat's a weak statement to justify billions a year when the US debt has ballooned.

Why are they getting money in the first place? Using the big business model, if they can't make a go of it on their own them let them fail

and the reason we have spent billions on the Palestinians is ? BTW ,much of the aid to Israel is loan guarantees as opposed to the direct aid given to the Palestinians and many of the Arab nations.

btw ,there is a whole discussion waiting about the useless EX-IM Bank and why it's authorization should be ended .

Karma without that aid Israel would have been swallowed up ages ago, you have to do something to stop world wars and since when were you concerned by US debt

If the aid was a loan guarantee as Tom said, then it doesn't add to the debt. But if the Iron Dome is working, why do they have to even reduce Gaza to rubble? What's the point of the siege and the fences? Something isn't right when you shoot so many innocents to get to a few terrorists, especially when the innocents cannot escape the carnage.

I don't think Israel is in danger of being swallowed up by anyone.

Nobody is shooting innocents... they are shooting terrorists... the So-called "innocents" are the people defending Hamas and who voted them into power. Meaning they really aren't innocent if they stand for Hamas using Hospitals, schools and apartments as weapons depots and rocket launch sites.

Let's put this in perspective Tal. Iron Dome didn't intercept all the rockets, there were thousands, which means multiple launch sites and a very highly organised attack. The response isn't just to bring down the rockets but an active defense which is to stop the attack and since it was coming from an urban area there is going to be damage. Hamas had no regard for their own population and brought any destruction upon the gazan population. The Allied forces leveled Germany in WWII and the only response to Hamas is the same tactic, make the price too great, but the israeli response must have been measured otherwise many more of the 1.8 million palestinians would have been dead. So there weren't "so many innocents" but unfortunately a small number relative to the population. The Israeli's told the population to leave area by area so their killing was not indescriminate. Killing children is depolorable but so is the attitude of the parents who did not remove them, who allowed them to live where hamas was setting up their rocket launchers.

My perspective on this is if you don't want to be killed don't allow terrorists to operate in your midst, and you don't know how many were killed by Hamas misfires and indiscriminate fighting

Well Tom, Clete, you don't go against the guys with guns, with rocks and sticks.

Tal there is probably a large number of weapons in the palestinian population and a few hundred terrorists but as was said earlier, these people elected Hamas and approved of their actions, you easily forget they stood on their rooftops and cheered on 9/11 so spare me the crocodile tears

Sorry I don't buy your assumptions, nor your assessment of people stuck in an imposed ghetto.

SELF imposed and slef created Ghetto. The Gaza strip was a far nicer place before Hamas got control of it.

Every place is nicer before the NUTS with guns show up.

Hardly... sometimes the guys with the guns turn it ito a nicer place... sometimes they don't. It all depends on who they are to begin with.

Yes you don't have to look far from home to see what the nuts with guns created, but I digress. Gaza was undoubtedly a nice place before 1948 but a mass migration of palestinians spoiled it. Those people went there by choice they were not forced to do so. This is the result of religious zealotry and generational hatred

Chicago? Los Angeles?

Unable to draw a comparison when were these cities bombed?

In LA, 1965, by the Blacks. Google Watts riots

Chicago... its been under siege by the criminal element since Before Al Capone.

Yes well I didn't think you needed to go that far

But if the Iron Dome is working, why do they have to even reduce Gaza to rubble? umm.... the idea is to STOP the rocket launches ;not to forever have to pick them out of the sky counting on 100% accuracy .


Well Tom, Clete, you don't go against the guys with guns, with rocks and sticks.
if you have superior force you use it. Are you suggesting that if the Palestinians are using rocks that Israel should respond with rocks ? Strange .

I'm being verballed again

Yes it is part of the measured response, the palestinians throw rocks, the Israeli's should throw rocks, but when the palestinians throw rockets the israeli's are not supposed to retaliate with rockets launched from planes, you see, the debate is onesided because no one is supposed to get dead from these exercises in poor judgement. What I suggest is the Israeli arm themselves with trebuchet and when the palestinians throw rocks... Nowhere in the world is civil disorder not met with force, so when the palestinians throw rockets, they should get an equal number back.....
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I never suggested the Israeli shouldn't use what they have at their disposal, perhaps be a little more discerning in their target, but then I also have the view that the problem will not be solved until all those palestinians are removed from Gaza. Perhaps if the Israeli were armed with rubber bullets as were security forces in other places with urban unrest then the response would hurt but not necessarily kill. Water cannons can also make a big mess

what you conveniently fail to mention is that Hamas use the Palestinian people as human shields. I am reminded that the allies completely destroyed the French city of Caen ,and 1570 other French cities liberating them from Nazi occupation. 68,778 French were killed in these attacks. The bombing of Caen and other Normandy towns cost 50,000 civilian deaths. Like the Israelis ,the allies did their best to let the civilian population know that they needed to evacuate the target areas . But the presence of civilians did not stop the allies from their military objectives.

Clete... no conflict in history has ever been won by one side tieing one arm behind their back because their opponent only had one arm.

Vietnam was a perfect contemporary example for why "Measured response" is the absolute worst way to wage a war...

Measured only in the sense of finding a way to strike only your enemy, don't tell me a sophisticated military mechine can't find a way to do that. No a blunt instrument is simpler, if Hamas uses human shields they are guilty by association, that is a bad response to what is similar to a hostage situation.

We cannot use the rationale of WWII here, that was two forces of equal strength, and what really made the difference was air power. I think the air power of the Israeli is well used but artillery is a blunt instrument. Look we know the problem will exist as long as Gaza exists, it is an enclave and no way there can be free passage through Israel to the west bank, a two state solution is nonsense. When you look at the destruction in Gaza ask yourself were there really that many rocket launchers? If so then the Israeli stopped too soon

Gaza should be destroyed because Most of the people in Gaza supports Hamas... they voted them in. THey all share the responsibility for their actions now too.

I have ZERO sympathy for any of them.

Most people learn as kids...don't pick a fight you don't have big enough balls to win, and if you do...don't cry when you get your butt kicked.

You hit on something Clete, how can the Israelis win by bombing people, and buildings AFTER they have launched a rocket and moved them? They haven't destroyed not one rocket launcher yet have they? They haven't even stopped the rockets from coming into the hands of Hamas either.

But I suppose that's the best they can do and makes them feel better even if it accomplishes NOTHING.

Tal... you can't launch or hide more rockets in a pile of rubble.

If your neighbor was shooting at your house every day....would you sit there and let them? I doubt it.

I would be shooting the shooters, not the whole neighborhood.

Israel is attacking the entire middle east? When did that start?

I would be shooting the shooters, not the whole neighborhood.

And when the shooter is hiding behind the children? How long do you get attacked before you shoot back anyway?

It would be hard not to have child casualities with a high percentage of the population among the young, this will not be over until Hamas count the cost

Its been going on for decades and the insanity continues.

Yes because what was done in 1948 only solved the problems of one group of people and caused another group to be dispossessed. The land of palestine was not empty when Israel was established, throw in some religious insanity and you have what you have now, an aparteid solution, two different peoples trying to develop in a postage stamp sized sliver of land, diametrically opposed in their world view.

Both Clintons make more money for one speech than the average family makes in a year, so that statement about being broke and in debt was pretty stupid. I still hope Clinton runs in 2016 just to keep some tea party nut from getting elected, that would be pretty scary.

I would say earl that it's time for the worm to turn you have had eight years of democrats, time to see what the others might be able to do, that is if they can stop electing those old guys

Mr. "dead broke" Clinton has taken a shine to the world's most expensive cigar, just $25,000 a box (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/bill-clinton-now-enjoys-1000-cigars_803486.html).

Isn't it about time for these elitists to stop pretending they're average Joes looking out for the little guy, hating the rich, blah, blah, blah...?

I guess he's done well for himself after leaving the white house, good for him - that's the american dream, no?

Other people go to jail for insider trading... with democrats... thats how they get their wealth.

Same with that idiot Palin:
Sarah Palin: I hate that Tina Fey made me look like an idiot - The Margin - MarketWatch (http://blogs.marketwatch.com/themargin/2014/08/20/sarah-palin-i-hate-that-tina-fey-made-me-look-like-an-idiot/?link=sfmw_fb)


If given the chance, she’d tell Fey: “You need to at least pay for my kids’ braces or something from all the money that you made off of pretending that you’re me! My goodness, you capitalized on that! Can’t you contribute a little bit? Jeez!”Poor little girl. That's what happens when you quit your job I guess.

46490Don't I hear the Dudley Do-right music playing in the background.

You make no sense yet again.

Makes perfect sense... you just don't "get it"

Explain it.

The American dream is to be a filthy rich hypocrite? I didn't know that. and what is your obsession with Sarah Palin? She's still irrelevant to this thread.

What does Sarah Palin have to do with this thread? Besides the fact you lefties hate her as much as Bush, yet love such despicible people like Pelosi, Ried Holder and the Obama horde.

The American dream is to be a filthy rich hypocrite?Actually it is.


what is your obsession with Sarah Palin? You didn't make the link to her story of woe about paying fro braces for her kid? She has a reported net worth of around $12 million. Better start an attack thread on her.


you lefties hate her as much as BushSo? What's wrong with that?

My post was less out of place in this thread than your was... but you failed to "get " that.

Don't I hear the Dudley Do-right music playing in the background.So what does that mean? I explained myself when you guys asked me to.

Actually it is.

Because you say so?


You didn't make the link to her story of woe about paying fro braces for her kid? She has a reported net worth of around $12 million. Better start an attack thread on her.

It's a thread about Clinton, not Palin, and I suspect Sarah was being a tad sarcastic unlike Hillary, who was dead serious about being "dead broke." If you want to discuss Sarah's braces story feel free to start your own thread.

Nah I'll do it here if I want, they are related.

I doubt Hillary feels pain financial or otherwise

Whatever, NK. It's not healthy to be so obsessed with Sarah Palin.

I think NK actually has quite a crush on her.

It's not healthy to be so obsessed with Sarah Palin.Is it healthy to be obsessed with Obama? Or the Clintons?

Is it healthy to be obsessed with Obama? Or the Clintons?

Dude, we've been asking that for years, and the answer is no.


Life-sized Obama statue stolen from porch, later found with empty bottles of alcohol and cigarette

46493

BEAR CREEK — A life sized statue of President Obama was stolen off the front porch of a Pennsylvania woman’s home earlier this week.

The statue has now turned up in a neighboring town sitting at a picnic table holding a nearly empty bottle of an alcoholic iced tea.

WNEP-TV first reported the statue missing Tuesday (http://wnep.com/2014/08/19/missing-president-obama-statue/) from the home of Tiffany Bruce of Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania.

Bruce told WNEP-TV when she first realized the 12-hundred dollar statue was gone she went into a panic.“I couldn’t breathe, and I had to go to the hospital,” said Bruce

Bwa ha ha!!!

Dude, we've been asking that for years, and the answer is no.So maybe you should seek help for your own Obama/Clinton obsession.

So maybe you should seek help for your own Obama/Clinton obsession.

Not a fan of reality?

Yes I am, and data and facts:


46506

What is this hidden message you rely upon?

Stupid site. How about this?
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Once again with feeling what is in your hidden attachment

Cryptolocker

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What is this reliance on messages only you can see?

Laugh at this.
Just a quick refresher course 'lest we forget' what has happened to many
"friends" of the Clinton's.

1- James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an
Apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key
Witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at
A Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown.. The murder happened just after
She was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White
House.

3 - Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of
Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound
To the head, ruled a suicide.

4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported
To have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the
Investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull
Resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being
Investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with
Prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days
Later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.

5 - C. Victor Raiser, II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund
Raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found
Dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by
Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted adviser".

7 - Ed Willey - Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
Woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey
Died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton
Groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved
In several Clinton fund raising events.

8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in
Little Rock.. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside
Little Rock Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton
He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the
Files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he
Had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential
People
Who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
Suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 - Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was
Found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head.
It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases,
As if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along
With Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a
Possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancée of Kathy
Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found
Dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave
Site of his fiancée.

13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by
Jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a
Convicted drug distributor.

14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was
Related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case.
He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the
Head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
Until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident

17- Don't ever forget about the 4 dead Americans of
Benghazi!

You forgot the links that put together this conspiracy chain of events.

Easy enough to Google them up for themselves, that way they can't blame me for selective editing or anything else. I AM particularly familiar with the Vincint Foster one as I drive past where it happened almost every day. The forencics do not support the conclusion of suicide. Everything there pointed towards him being shot by someone else and the body dumped in Fort Marcy Park. That's from people I personally knew that had personal access to the info.

smoothy on the percentage of probabilities you're next