Sharia in Quebec: Muslim who murdered 13-year-old daughter gets 60 days in jailPosted on May 22, 2014 (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/05/22/sharia-quebec-muslim-murdered-13-year-old-daughter-gets-60-days-jail/) by Pamela Geller (http://www.dcclothesline.com/author/pamela-geller/)
http://pamelageller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/moussa-sidime.jpgMoussa Sidimé (centre) will serve 60 more days for the 2010 slapping death of his teenage daughter Nouténé. (Jay Turnbull/CBC)

In Muslim countries under the sharia, penalties for honor murder are lenient. Interesting and horrible to see this kind of sentencing in Quebec.
The Palestinian Authority (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2013/10/22/moderates-palestinian-authority-youth-magazine-published-list-sayings-claims-hitlers-geller-atlas-shrugs/) gives pardons or suspended sentences (http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/palestinian-authority-gives-pardons-or-suspended-sentences-for-honor-murders.html) for honor murders (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/01/23/islamic-honor-violence-connecticut-muslim-pours-hot-oil-sleeping-wife/). Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences (http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/03/iraqi-women-ask-for-tougher-sentences-for-islamic-honor-murderers.html) for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law (http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/07/after-an-increase-of-wife-killings-on-the-pretext-of-adultery-syria-allows-for-tougher-penalties-for.html) limiting the length of sentences for honor killings (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/01/06/honor-killing-michigan-iranian-sanaz-nezami-savagely-beaten-islamic-husband-family-watches-death-online/), but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.’” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported (http://english.aljazeera.net/archive/2003/09/2008410102158508644.html) that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.” (Source: Jihadwatch (http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/07/israel-muslim-gets-life-in-prison-for-honor-murder-of-sister.html))
Add Canada to the list.
http://pamelageller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/moussa-sidime2.jpg (http://pamelageller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/moussa-sidime2.jpg)Moussa (left)


Sidimé will not have to serve the 60 days consecutively, meaning he could choose to serve on weekends.
He has already served 19 days.
Sidimé, 74, pleaded guilty to manslaughter after slapping his 13-year-old, Nouténé, so hard that an artery in her brain ruptured.
According to testimony in his 2011 preliminary hearing, Sidimé slapped his teenage daughter twice for not doing a chore in the manner he had instructed.
Even using the word “slap” is disgusting. This man socked his daughter so hard, she died. Cold blooded murder in the service of the Islamic code of honor.

“Quebec man who killed teen daughter with slap gets 60 days in jail,” The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/quebec-man-who-killed-teen-daughter-with-slap-gets-60-days-in-jail/article18774321/), May 21, 2014
A Quebec man who slapped his teenage daughter so hard she died has been sentenced to 60 days in jail.
Moussa Sidime, was sentenced Wednesday, is expected to serve his time two days a week over 30 weeks.
The 74-year-old man had pleaded guilty to manslaughter in the death of his 13-year-old daughter, Noutene, in October, 2010.
The court heard Sidime struck her because he didn’t like how she had completed a chore and because she had been disrespectful.
It was Sidime who called 911 himself after finding the girl unconscious minutes later. She died after a few days in hospital.
The Crown was seeking a prison sentence.
Sidime’s lawyer had argued for leniency, calling the death an exceptional case.
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well it's rediculous, but then so is all of Islam, a barbaric code and it is rediculous to see a nation like Canada be lienent on child killers. i would hazard a quess that he isn't even sorry

We aren't lenient on child killers. This is a different circumstance and these people are judged and sentenced by a jury of their peers who are not all Canadians.

Best you read up on how we really treat child killers in Canada, paraclete.

We aren't lenient on child killers. This is a different circumstance and these people are judged and sentenced by a jury of their peers who are not all Canadians.

Best you read up on how we really treat child killers in Canada, paraclete.

Why do they get special exclusions from Canadian law at all... Their peers should be ALL Canadians, not selected by race or religious preference... and Canadian law should apply to them the same as anyone else in Canada.

Firstly he was convicted of manslaughter, not murder, and secondly its hard to point the finger and be outraged when we in America let a teen drunk getaway with killing 4 people.

Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for deadly DWI crash - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/11/us/texas-teen-dwi-wreck/index.html)

You don't have go to Canada to find stupidity, and inequality, or confine it to a religion you hate either.

Firstly he was convicted of manslaughter, not murder, and secondly its hard to point the finger and be outraged when we in America let a teen drunk getaway with killing 4 people.

Texas teen Ethan Couch gets 10 years' probation for deadly DWI crash - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/11/us/texas-teen-dwi-wreck/index.html)

You don't have go to Canada to find stupidity, and inequality, or confine it to a religion you hate either.

Good point, but our wonderful members here will probably find a good answer for that one too.

I get really quite ###p###d when all of you start pointing fingers at Canada for anything nowadays. I dont think i ever point any fingers down your way but I can start now.

60 days for manslaughter Particularly in this case isn't even a slap on the wrist. You will do more time for shoplifting a Roast from a store.

Tickle...take a look at one of your fellow contrymen...NeedKarma....90% of his posts on this forum bash Americans....and how perfect everything is north of our border, This thread was made in their honor.

point away tickle, but how can you allow a jury to decide the length of a sentence. we used to have travesties like this once but then we enacted truth in sentencing laws to ensure the sentence fitted the crime. You want to allow someone other than a judge to decide a sentence let the parents decide the sentence

point away tickle, but how can you allow a jury to decide the length of a sentence. we used to have travesties like this once but then we enacted truth in sentencing laws to ensure the sentence fitted the crime. You want to allow someone other than a judge to decide a sentence let the parents decide the sentence

Our judicial system in Canada is presided over by a Judge and a jury. Where do you get the idea it is a jury only? The Crown wanted a prison sentence.

Our judicial system in Canada is presided over by a Judge and a jury. Where do you get the idea it is a jury only? The Crown wanted a prison sentence.

are you saying the jury was more lenient, no surprise there but a judge should know better. Some old darling on the bench, no doubt. There is only one way to deal with serious crime and that is in a serious manner, we have just enacted new one punch legislation and it isn't considered manslaughter. GBH in any form is serious and not tolerated

Our judicial system in Canada is presided over by a Judge and a jury. Where do you get the idea it is a jury only? The Crown wanted a prison sentence.


Why didnt the prosecutor go for a murder chanrge when what he had done was clearly illegal and from the situation was most likely not the first time it occured. There are other charges that should have been tacked along with it too. Child abuse being one of them. That way he can never be around children without supervision.


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And another country submits to the barbarians to avoid being labeled "intolerant." Canadians, how does Dhimmi feel?

And another country submits to the barbarians to avoid being labeled "intolerant." Canadians, how does Dhimmi feel?

I don't see anyone commenting on Tal's post #5 regarding a drunk teen in Texas getting TEN YEARS PROBATION for killing four people. What do you call this? Good judgment on a court decision ?

I think this is world wide... not a country issue rather a humanity issue. We need to start looking at the issues as world wide. My solution to the issues in my part of the world is I am becoming an activist for human rights, animal rights. I am also changing my part of the world by just being nice. I know that sounds silly but I believe if more people would do that then we would see change on a larger scale. We just need more nice people than evil people.

.I am also changing my part of the world by just being nice. I know that sounds silly but I believe if more people would do that then we would see change on a larger scale. We just need more nice people than evil people.
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I think this is world wide... not a country issue rather a humanity issue. We need to start looking at the issues as world wide. My solution to the issues in my part of the world is I am becoming an activist for human rights, animal rights. I am also changing my part of the world by just being nice. I know that sounds silly but I believe if more people would do that then we would see change on a larger scale. We just need more nice people than evil people.

How very niaive of you, evil is not defeated by nice, it is defeated by action.

What would wide issues would you like to look at? let's take fundamentalist Islam, now I'm willing to think there were nice people in Nigeria but the only thing that will eliminate Boko Haram is action, military action. I look at my own society and I observe the names and backgrounds of offenders and it occurs to me that while my society is basically nice, peaceful and lawabiding, it hasn't made any impression on these people. This is why we gave 15 Year sentences to muslim boys who gang raped a Christian girl, 15 years for rape and the Canadians give 60 days for "manslaughter". Noone gets 60 days here for a serious crime

I second that NK; Morgrann gets four more from me

I second that NK; Morgrann gets four more from me

I'd like to give you a rating, but my thoughts are unprintable, appeasement has never produced a positive result

...appeasement has never produced a positive result

Exactly, Neville Chamberland proved that appeasement dioesn't work... and its been proven over and over since then as well (and well before that too). And there is about 1,400 years of history proving you don't appease Islam....you either kill them or they kill you. Anyplace they achieve a critical mass mob mentality kicks in and they opress any other religion or belief, to the point of killing them if they don't convert. Recent history of the numerous Genocides being attempted and perpatrated towards Christians and Jews by Muslims only highlights that. Look what been going on in France and the UK with them. They refuse to assimilate then Riot because everyone doen't bend over and bow to their demands.

Sharia is by its very definition....a violation of human rights on multiple levels on multiple points. And I don't trust ANY group that even THINKS its a good idea.

With that said....individually many Muslims are perfectly fine....but like other groups....get enough of them in one place and trouble results....(like many activists, soccer fanatics, Drunks etc....)

Smoothy and Paraclete then if my way of doing things will not work how do YOU plan to work to change things? There is no sense in getting up in arms if you are doing nothing to help change things for the better.
I see no reason why my being nice to people yet still protesting and working toward change will do harm. OH well we all have our own opinions and the right to not agree.

well I can only speak for myself, change can be produced though one on one ministry and that is the path, you change one individual at a time, beyond that it takes someone with more power than I have

I think we are saying the same thing. When you are nice to people you will not harm them, abuse them, rob them etc. I believe others will see it and maybe start doing the same. I believe bigger change I can have a part in by my protesting voting and discussing issues. I know of changes I have helped to make in the world and can say for me this works

I see no point in shouting in the streets, it encourages violence

Smoothy and Paraclete then if my way of doing things will not work how do YOU plan to work to change things? There is no sense in getting up in arms if you are doing nothing to help change things for the better.
I see no reason why my being nice to people yet still protesting and working toward change will do harm. OH well we all have our own opinions and the right to not agree.

Being nice is one thing... but capitulating and appeasing are something totally different. There are some people that actually think they are all part of the same thing.

ANY appeasement and ANY capitulation with that group does harm... because nothing they want is positive to anyone who believe in human rights and personal liberty. Sharia denies people civil liberties AND human rights. And many places where they have flocked into groups large enough... they start demanding to Impose Sharia... and its not just Canada, they have been doing that here too.

With that community its ALWAYS...give them an inch and they try to take a foot...Give them a foot and they try to take a mile....then its a matter of time before Synagogs and Churches start being bombed and burned.

If they want to do things their way....they are invited to return where they came from. This part of the World isn't Muslim...and we don't appreciate Muslim traditions and laws being rammed down out throats. And I do know quite a few don't do that....I trust NONE who wear a scarf....and I trust none who wear burquas.

And yes, I know quite a few Muslims , some of them good friends...none of them wear any of that stuff....and they have said nowhere is it written they need to. We are talking people born in Afghanistan, Iran, and a couple other countries. All of whom immigrated here, and have tried to fit in...

I was jsut at a College Graduation party of the son of one of my Afghan friends last weekend....I've known him since he was born....50 people at the party, most Afghan except for a couple of Iranians....ONE woman wore a head scarf.....and she was undergoing chemo and radiation therapy for cancer...none wore a burqa, all I believe were Muslims, a few I haven't met before...but many I met years ago, me and my wife were the only people there NOT from that part of the world.

Just so its clear.....I don't hate muslims for being muslims.....I hate the muslims that behave in a certain manner. Just as I have no use for certain people of any ethnicity that behave in certain manners.

I agree with smoothy, Islam must not be appeased, they have no intention in making any concessions to our culture. Islam must be confronted and forced back into the sixth century enclave it wants to create. My reasons for saying it is it is barbaric and completely out of tune with modern thinking, Muthutmad thought it was alright to spread religion by conquest, to cohabit with minors and kill your opposition and I don't think any of this has changed, these are people who would still practice slavery today if we let them get away with it

I also refuse to travel to, or even through any country that allows or imposes Sharia on the population. And I'm one of those people who will never submit to it to my dying breath (yes I would be one of the many people that would get militant about it if it was ever attempted)... no matter WHERE I may be. I go as far as refusing to buy any products from those places when and where possible. That includes clothing.

There are extremists in all groups of people that give the others a bad name. It is not just the Muslims.
I do not follow a religion due to issues with most of them and the extreme beliefs they have that don't give all people rights. Do I hate all Christians, Muslims, Jews etc. NO. I base my thoughts on you when I look at your character, morals, actions etc. Again though what harm does my philosophy cause? I am not hurting people. I am sure people that know me can attest I do not hide my head in the sand from issues in the real world.
One example of my niceness. We were in bed on Sunday when someone was pounding on our door. Our neighbor was yelling she was stabbed. I could have ignored it. I could have said I would call the cops and left her out there. I did neither. I let her in the house, got her a robe to cover up called 911. Got my dog in my brothers room and we brought her dog in and kenneled him. We kenneled the dogs so they cops would not shoot them if they barked (yes it happens a lot in North America). We kept the dog over night and this was the first time we met the dog. We gave our number to her in case she needed a ride home from the hospital. That is being nice. That is changing the world a little. Don't tell me everyone would do that as I read stories all the time how people ignore others in need.
Another way I have helped out is by running a yearly auction for a dog rescue in Brazil. I don't raise a lot but it helps. I also talk to people I meet about this rescue all the time. I am being nice and can attest my sharing is working as my sister in law is adopting one of the dogs. They now do international adoptions.
I am also helping out with the homeless in my city by donating backpacks filled with essentials to them. I unfortunately will not be handing them out as I have fears of the homeless (which I hate having as I know not all of them are mean people.
Sorry did not mean to ramble. I just wanted to let you know I am not just a pot smoking hippy with her head in the sand saying life is all about unicorns and rainbows... though that would be cool.

Many live under the rules of unscrupulous zealots, and do bad things in the name of whatever god. That's the history of the world and every religion. To pick the bad and apply it to the whole is no way to justify your own hate, which is in itself a form of zealotry, and its no surprise you spew it as easy as those who spew their own hate.

Funny how haters can ignore and appease the bad behavior of their own with no problem. Self righteous crap! Haters must hate themselves because they are no better than the ones they hate.

Just so its clear... I feel the same way about Jehovah Witnesses, Atheists... etc. I've never met a Bhudist thats tried to do anything either way (though I haven't knowingly met many of them).

I don't knock anyone over the head and drag them into a Church or preach to them... and I don't tollerate anyone trying to force me into their way of doing things, regardless of their religion or lack thereof. Most of the people I associate with... do none of those things either... I do get a chuckle of the Aetheist neighbors I have with more CHristmas decorations and stuff then even I have... we do get along pretty well however.

I do get a chuckle of the Aetheist neighbors I have with more CHristmas decorations and stuff then even I have... we do get along pretty well howeverNot sure I understand your issue with them having more xmas decorations that you - jealous?

There are extremists in all groups of people that give the others a bad name. It is not just the Muslims.
I do not follow a religion due to issues with most of them and the extreme beliefs they have that don't give all people rights. Do I hate all Christians, Muslims, Jews etc. NO. I base my thoughts on you when I look at your character, morals, actions etc. Again though what harm does my philosophy cause? I am not hurting people. I am sure people that know me can attest I do not hide my head in the sand from issues in the real world.
One example of my niceness. We were in bed on Sunday when someone was pounding on our door. Our neighbor was yelling she was stabbed. I could have ignored it. I could have said I would call the cops and left her out there. I did neither. I let her in the house, got her a robe to cover up called 911. Got my dog in my brothers room and we brought her dog in and kenneled him. We kenneled the dogs so they cops would not shoot them if they barked (yes it happens a lot in North America). We kept the dog over night and this was the first time we met the dog. We gave our number to her in case she needed a ride home from the hospital. That is being nice. That is changing the world a little. Don't tell me everyone would do that as I read stories all the time how people ignore others in need.
Another way I have helped out is by running a yearly auction for a dog rescue in Brazil. I don't raise a lot but it helps. I also talk to people I meet about this rescue all the time. I am being nice and can attest my sharing is working as my sister in law is adopting one of the dogs. They now do international adoptions.
I am also helping out with the homeless in my city by donating backpacks filled with essentials to them. I unfortunately will not be handing them out as I have fears of the homeless (which I hate having as I know not all of them are mean people.
Sorry did not mean to ramble. I just wanted to let you know I am not just a pot smoking hippy with her head in the sand saying life is all about unicorns and rainbows... though that would be cool.

This isn't about hate and it isn't about religion, it is about an ideology, a world view that doesn't allow any compromise with anyone else, in fact they have become more militant in recent decades than they once were and this is because they discovered nationalism, which in their world view actually makes no sense since they are supposed to be part of the caliphate, a muslim utopia ruled by an absolute monarch.

There are many injustices in the world and we cannot cure them all however meritorious the attempt might be. Back in the day a similiar ideology created a world war and genocide and we all fought against it, but now we are expected to have the same thing imposed upon us. I say no, and I certainly say if you don't like the way things are here, go back where you came from, back to that hell hole you escaped from.

If we can do away with all religion that would be a start.

No Karma freedom of religion is a basic freedom, that is a freedom to believe but not a freedom to act out to the detriment of others, If we do away with religion we have to do away with athiests also because athiestic systems have also caused great harm. Any form of totalitaranism is undesirable and so we come to Islam, a form of totalitaranism with a veneer of a religion, but it is actually a system of being anti something

freedom of religion is a basic freedomWhere do you get that from?

If we do away with religion we have to do away with athiests alsoWell that a logic fail. There no such thing as an " athiestic system".

Maybe China where the leaders are the "gods". Or Russia, where Putin fills that role. They preach and enforce the rules, like in Uganda, and Italy. They are all atheists, aren't they, who believe whatever in the words of man.

There is no difference, we just BELIEVE there is and make it up if it isn't enough difference to claim they are wrong and we are right. Its enough to fight over. That's all they wanted in the first place.

*They is all the "different" people.

They are all atheists, aren't they, who believe whatever in the words of man. What? They are dictators, it has nothing to do with a non-belief in a god. Dictators can be religious too.

God has nothing to do with governess. That's about power, influence, and wealth. Religion or not humans have their own ideas of good orderly direction, and how its applied to daily. Like minds may congregate, or may not, but its an individual choice. Not believe in the gods of another has nothing to do with personal conduct, and belief,or nonbelief is totally irrelevant to human interaction.

Its actions that are important, not beliefs, I mean who cares what you believe when what you do is more telling. Belief is no better than non belief and are the same sides of the coin until you start to think you are better because of it. An artificial difference at best. Just like all the other differences one can pick out amongst humans.

Not believe in the gods of another has nothing to do with personal conduct, and belief,or nonbelief is totally irrelevant to human interaction. I think that's wrong - many guide their behaviours based on words found in a 200+ year old book. They gladly will quote it for you, ad nauseum.

Anyway I believe in acting locally. Just was switching between the Formula 1 race and the Giro, now I need to get and do stuff, maybe a 50 km ride with a few hills. Plus the kids want to have fun outdoors. Cheers!

which two hundred year old book is that karma, the Book of Mormom, we were discussing those who quote a fourteen hundred year old book, the Koran

Does it matter what book you quote or don't quote to justify hate? Its all the same and it's poison. What does YOUR book say?

My book says Don't hate, love. My book says beat the swords into ploughshears, my book also says don't tolerate evil, if you have evil people come out from among them

Denigrating a whole peoples religion for the behavior of a few is not love. No more than bad behavior in the name of whatever your god. Especially given we see bad behavior in every religion, or nonreligion.

Or is the real problem there is one God but different books? Or maybe the problem is that who writes the book says who God is. And ENFORCES their law. Regardless hate is hate no matter the book, or what you call your god.

who denigraded their religion, they did it themselves, their hate spilled over into the attack on people who had nothing to do with them and what about those who danced in the streets when your nation was attacked. I expect you will tell me that is the act of a rational people just following their religion which is to be repected. You pat them on the head if you want. Nazism was in itseelf a athiestic expression of a religious system which has been outlawed for its atrocoties, I say Islam possesses many of the same characteristics. Even Egypt, a Muslim country recognises that the behaviour of certain islamists is unacceptable, the behaviour of the followers of Islam in Africa is unacceptable, in Syria is unacceptable, you even started a war because the behaviour of islamists was unacceptable and yet you want to defend them. idealistic nonsense.

How far do they have to go until, like the Japanese, you have to use the ultimate solution to stop them

who denigraded their religion, they did it themselves,Yep, that's what the catholics did.


Nazism was in itseelf a athiestic expression of a religious system That makes no sense whatsoever.

So you don't believe that most Muslims want the same thing you do. To live in peace, thrive and prosper? You would rather hate and rant on them all and blame their religion instead of understand the few are making BS for the many.

If their hate and denegration is WRONG, so is yours.

So you don't believe that most Muslims want the same thing you do. To live in peace, thrive and prosper? You would rather hate and rant on them all and blame their religion instead of understand the few are making BS for the many.

If their hate and denegration is WRONG, so is yours.

The problem with any system gone bad is the box. People live in that box and it becomes part of their accepted lifestyle. Right now there are many that are allowing that box to expand. It is the real problem behind radical muslim behavior. It must be fought against from all sides and those inside the box need to learn that there are other ways of life otherwise we risk being consumed by its ways. Change needs to come from within as well as from the outside. Acceptance isnt going to create change. This behavior has been this way throughout mans history. Make no mistake what is happening now is no less dangerous then what it has been in the past.

From the Jews to the Gentiles many religions have undergone the same changes the Muslim world is now going through, and it does take a long time to even recognise the repressions and figure out what to do to change it. It usually involves a big internal/external war and struggle before freedom is achieved.

I give you credit for your reference to RADICAL Islam. At least you recognize its a smaller group that is raising hell to keep power over the many.

So you don't believe that most Muslims want the same thing you do. To live in peace, thrive and prosper? You would rather hate and rant on them all and blame their religion instead of understand the few are making BS for the many.

If their hate and denegration is WRONG, so is yours.

Tal I have have heard the attitudes, you get close to a muslim and he will talk about jihad, fighting for his muslim brothers, this attitude is not confined to muslims but it must be rooted out. I heard the same attitudes in Scotland when they spoke about the problems in Ireland. it had nothing to do with nationalism and whole lot to do with hatred. Dad identified it well, the system has gone bad. Karma spoke of the catholics denegrating their religion but it isn't the same thing when a predatory priest preys on a child, the people don't condone the behaviour, but where are the muslim voices condemning the behaviour? No they applaud as if the victory of a small group is a victory for all. Do you think 200 girls can just vanish in Nigeria without the help of the population, that the population arn't in sympathy with Boko Harum?

I supervised many male and female Muslim, Hindu, Christian, and atheist library volunteers for over 15 years and worked side by side with them and similarly affiliated coworkers. Never was the word "jihad" said, even in jest.

No the word is not popular now, but it used to be popular with every muslim expected to respond. I first heard it in response to the Israeli Six Day war. A christian will not use the word it is not part of their psyche and hindus don't have the concept but are very defensive about religion

Not sure I understand your issue with them having more xmas decorations that you - jealous?

I was out of town a few days...


Nope... you watched Christmas Vacation with Chevy Chase a few times to many. We don't have one of those Christmas Decoration competitions going on that can be seen from the International Space Station. In fact my decorations are fairly modest by local standards.

There is a disconnect here somewhere, I suspect it occurs at the Canadian border

There is a disconnect here somewhere, I suspect it occurs at the Canadian borderI was thinking the city limits. Maybe even the front door.

I was thinking the city limits. Maybe even the front door.

call it how you like it's your front door, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt

call it how you like it's your front door, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt
I mean HIS front door... their attitude isn't common in the USA... and I honestly don't think it is in Canada either based on the other Canadians I know.

Which attitude is that?

And by your previous comments about Canada it's plainly obvious that you have no friends here nor have you visited for any amount of time.

Which attitude is that?

And by your previous comments about Canada it's plainly obvious that you have no friends here nor have you visited for any amount of time.

Your numerous comments have proven your world view is based exclusively on what you hear on TV and the radio (which is basicly pure propaganda), and that you haven't been outside of your own city much if ever.

So what attitude were you referring to?

P.S. not sharing my world travels with you, I don't have a need to impress anyone.

Give it some thought... I think you have a naïve perspective of the world... but I don't think you are dumb.

Here we go again, the refusal to answer by playing childish games.

as I've said before get a room

I don't have those tendencies...

Here we go again, the refusal to answer by playing childish games.

Do you own a mirror? Time to get one and look in it.

If you don't want people to judge Americans based on a few people than don't do the same to Muslems and Canadians.
I am insulted you think I follow mainstream news and think you know what I stand for. You have no clue. In fact I am one of the people that are probably on a watch list somewhere due to my beliefs and what I fight for. DO NOT JUDGE OTHERS AS IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE AN @SS.
Also judging people based on race, color, religion, lack of religion, piercings, tats, etc mean you may miss out on some very good friends in this life. How about you look at people as individuals and see what their character, their morals are.
I am really tired of the worlds racism and prejudice. By society standards I am only a fat ugly person (judgemental people) but there is more to me than that. I am an animal activist, a fundraiser, donator to help out the homeless, political activist, etc.

I have my reasons... very valid ones that nobody on this earth can make amends for.

I almost died in the Pentagon the morning of 9/11, Was a miricle I got out right before it happened, people I worked with all that night weren't so fortunate, their names are on the memorial. I spent months with others in my office dealing with the damage in Manhattan following that getting communications back up. Its well know who all did it, and what religion they were, I also vividly remember the cheers in the streets in Muslim nations that day...particularly one snaggle toothed Palestinian woman in the Gaza Strip. If she did that in front of me....I would have choked her to death with my own two hands.

There isn't bias here... just pure unadulterated facts precious few people were ever exposed to... I also was deeply involved in the Desert Shield and Desert Storm... more than I can say yet because its not been 25 years. 99% of what I saw never got released in any way shape or form...mainstream news or otherwise. You really didn't see the uneditied pictures and video of what they did in the name of their religion over there.....or here for that matter on either of those, nor did most people.

Now if you read my posts you would know there were some who have earned my trust,that I consider friends.....but I have every reason to be distrustful of the rest until given a reason to believe otherwise. What really happened in Benghazi Libya to our Embassador (something quickly covered up by the mainstream media) is proof of why distrust is a good rule of thumb.

You are right smoothy most of them give into their base instincts because they are not taught otherwise, but how can you be when your education consists of endlessly repeating a few pages of an ancient book, in any other society that is called brainwashing and it is a technique that has been used in other than religious situations.

However the bleeding hearts are not going to agree that something that is inherently evil should be destroyed for the good of all,they cling to the idea that evil is in the eye of the beholder

Ironic thing is if they had posted how horrible this decision was and the sentence did not fit the crime and left the prejudice and judging all Muslims based on a few, I would have agreed with them. I will say I see decisions by judges world wide I think are not right and make no sense.
Case in point in the US, Texas I think, a man just got away with drugging his wife over 3 years and assaulting her sexually. I can not remember the exact charge but he confessed to it in court. The wife found out when she seen videos or pictures on his cell of the acts. He got house arrest no jail time.
Now I am not going around saying how horrible Texans are because he is one person and does not represent all Texans. I look at him and base my thoughts on him based on his character, morals etc.
PLease stop judging all Canadians based on a few. IF you don't like me fine don't like me but don't judge based on where I live. Which if you think about it, it is strange. Where a person lays their head dictates their morals and character.

Sorry I have to correct myself I made a mistake. It was Indianna. The charges were :
Six felony charges of rape and deviate conduct that normally carry prison terms of six to 20 years apiece. He was given this sentence by a judge.

Indiana judge assailed for light sentence in husband-wife rape case - Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-indiana-rape-judge-20140520-story.html)

Your point is well taken Mogrann, you can find judicial stupidity anywhere you look.

The justice system is a farce in Quebec, some doctor named Guy Turcotte murdered his children and was then declared not criminally responsible and set free, but I think it was appealed and he may face justice, hope he goes to jail for life.

How do you set free a maniac, surely such people are taken into care

then declared not criminally responsible and set free

"He spent 46 months in psychiatric care before being deemed fit for release from a mental institution. Turcotte, meanwhile, remains behind bars."

got away with murder

He's still in jail.

then is debate is pointless