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foolsoul
May 15, 2014, 02:56 PM
I recently broke up with my boyfriend after trying to work through a disagreement we had. We had a long distance relationship (he lives in Austin, TX & I in Ottawa, Canada) & had been dating for over a year. I've visited him twice and he's visited me once (& met each other's families).

We both wanted to live together & considered marriage & applying for a Permanent Residence card (whether he came to Ottawa or I moved to Austin). The process of the applications are lengthy (we thought they both were approx. 2 years if immigrating spouse resided outside the country of application, but it is only about 1 year for US (2 for Canada)) as well as very expensive (we are 24 & 23 yrs old & of modest income).

We were daunted by the idea of being separated for so long (thinking 2 years & neither of us would be likely to obtain a working permit as neither of us have a degree as of yet & they are hard to come by without, we both intend to continue with our school (foreign student fees are beyond our budgets) & we wouldn't have been able to afford healthcare being in each other's respective country).

Despite all that, I was willing to save up & risk jeopardizing my ability to work, education & health (have had some health problems lately) for the time necessary to obtain a green card applying while inside the US (which we thought was possible as it is for Canada but I just realized is not for the US) & would have allowed us to be together & wait time halved compared to applying outside (so we thought it was for the US but is just for Canada it seems). He was willing to do the same to come to Canada, though changed his mind later coming to terms with the practical implications involved.

Talking this over with my folks, they suggested that he move closer to the border to a town in New York state like Ogdensburg (which is about an hour drive from Ottawa) - that way we could see each other regularly & not have to sacrifice our abilities to work & continue school (he wanted to become a vet tech & there was a program at SUNY in Canton, about 25 minutes away from Ogdensburg).

I asked him how he felt about this and he was immediately hesitant. He didn't like the idea of living in New York state. The only reason he gave as to why was that he'd simply feel uncomfortable there. He wished we had an alternative but decided it best to accept waiting for 2 years for a PR card to move to Ottawa (my school & health being the deciding factors and still thinking the 2 countries' processing times and rules concerning place of application were similar). However, after this he started avoiding discussion on planning for our future together. He was justifiably concerned about moving so far from his loved ones (they're in Houston) & loved the city he lived in.

Because of his initial reaction, I was confused. I could not fathom how after talking about getting married & moving so far away from our homes (friends & family) & willing to sacrifice & risk so much (a year without ability to work, a year's worth of education, & accessibility to health care - which I was still intending to pursue if New York was not an option)), he could find the effort of finding work in & relocating to New York & discomfort involved in living there greater than the desire to be together.

This created a feeling that I wasn't worth the effort or discomfort moving there would ask of him. I couldn't get past the fear that he was unwilling to do for me what I would for him, that he could not truly love me if so, & that I would end up sacrificing my love, time, & energy to him in vain as I did not believe our relationship could last if he couldn't reciprocate.

I then started to think back to the several instances of our relationship where I felt I was putting in more effort & was unsatisfied by his lack of. We had discussed and worked on those in the past, but they always reverted to imbalance (as example, always arranging my schedule to talk around his, regardless of life demands).

I kept bringing the subject up & asking him as to how he truly felt about me & what I was worth to him. He assured that he loved me & considered being in a long distance relationship effort enough & thus proof of his love.

I was not satisfied with his answers & felt he could not possibly love me to the extent that I did him (considering the imbalance). After much heated discussion, I decided to end our relationship. He was very upset that I decided to do so & lost confidence in my level of commitment or love for him in doing so.

I realize, looking back, that I suffer from deep (stemming from childhood) issues of insecurity & that they likely played a role in my dissatisfaction with his answers.

Did I act too soon?
Were my fears of his lack of love & reciprocity nothing more than fear?
Was New York an unreasonable goal?
Is it healthy to expect mutual effort?
Was I giving and expecting too much?

talaniman
May 15, 2014, 03:26 PM
It could be a million things so don't beat yourself up over the breakup. Let the dust settle on your emotions and see what happens next. Maybe its not time to be together yet. Even the best laid plans don't work with everything going for it. Distance doesn't make it easier.

Give it a week and see how you feel.

foolsoul
May 15, 2014, 04:13 PM
It could be a million things so don't beat yourself up over the breakup. Let the dust settle on your emotions and see what happens next. Maybe its not time to be together yet. Even the best laid plans don't work with everything going for it. Distance doesn't make it easier.

Give it a week and see how you feel.

Thank you for your response, talaniman. I think I'm handling it a lot better now and better than I would have anticipated at this point but I will heed your good advice. I guess I thought it might be good to try to learn from what happened and maybe that will come with time.

Distance has been our greatest challenge but maybe that is a good thing - a challenge that a couple could work together to overcome and if surmounted may prove a greater foundation with how far each other is willing to go for the other? Though, there are so many challenges besides distance that replicate this opportunity to prove commitment.

I've read several articles now that suggest the key to a loving relationship is to love without expecting anything in return. I love the idea of this yet I fear that it could set one partner up for neglect or abuse - but maybe the message is to abandon the ego that is concerned with self-preservation? I find it difficult to imagine loving someone/ some cause to the extreme that they/it sucks you dry with little regard to your well being. But I guess that is the ideal: selfless love? Then again, so many say that you cannot love others before loving yourself. I definitely relate to the insecurity associated with a lack of self-love (a history of being used/neglected/abused). I find that within this relationship, I loved him more than myself yet I became fear-riddled as either ego or concern for self-love crept in.

Again, thank you. I will try to remain open and see how things go.

BTW, I love that Marcel Proust quote you have on wisdom. I can definitely relate (as I'm sure everyone can). Peace.

talaniman
May 15, 2014, 05:08 PM
Sometimes when we think we have a great plan, we get frustrated that our partner isn't as gung ho about it a we are. Breaking up was rather impulsive MAYBE, but things will be different when you are cool, calm, collected, and in better control of yourself.

foolsoul
May 15, 2014, 05:33 PM
Sometimes when we think we have a great plan, we get frustrated that our partner isn't as gung ho about it a we are. Breaking up was rather impulsive MAYBE, but things will be different when you are cool, calm, collected, and in better control of yourself.

Perhaps you're right. We had been discussing this for about a month now and it seemed that talking about it went nowhere (circles). I probably should have waited things out but I had a hard time getting past that feeling and that was affecting my communication.