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paraclete
Mar 17, 2014, 03:04 PM
I'd like to add one more theory since my guess is a good as any other, the plane was taken over by people smugglers, flown to Indonesia, jam packed with "asylum seekers" and flown to Australia. Nothing else could explain the apparently senseless disappearance of a scheduled flight from KL to Beijing. There are hundreds of places it could have landed in Northern Australia and I predict that this will start a flood of copycat attempts

tomder55
Mar 17, 2014, 03:05 PM
Who would've thought that radar systems get turned off at night in the Indian Ocean region ?

paraclete
Mar 17, 2014, 03:18 PM
I don't think there are radar systems in the Indian Ocean and yes it is possible that airports only operate during daylight hours in remote regions. We are talking about a part of the world which is remote with few centres of population and sophistication. We have long said Australia was vulnerable in the north but then there is the secret military over the horizon radar installations but noone has offered any data, what good are these systems if they can't watch far out?

paraclete
Mar 18, 2014, 03:55 PM
are we watching an episode of Lost here. latest information places the plane passing over the Maldives, next stop is a long way away, so any bets on it landing on some remote island

tomder55
Mar 18, 2014, 04:19 PM
so any bets on it landi
ng on some remote island
doubtful ... the plane needs about a mile of clear runway. It's lost alright ....at the bottom of Davey Jones ' locker .

paraclete
Mar 18, 2014, 04:32 PM
I see it on some beautiful beach, not necessarily intact but it is possible to bring it down

paraclete
Mar 20, 2014, 03:18 AM
some wreckage sighted by sattelite, we can hope this saga will come to an end soon, and not be another dead end like the chinese sighting

tomder55
Mar 20, 2014, 10:14 AM
Doubt it .. It took 2 years to find the black box of Air France Flight 447 ...and they knew immediately where it crashed into the Atlantic.

smoothy
Mar 20, 2014, 10:24 AM
I think the Malaysians have been lying through their teeth about this all along.

Its probibly sitting on some remote airstrip large enough to handle it... the passengers killed and it being loaded with explosives for some Muslim plot against an as yet unknown target.

tomder55
Mar 20, 2014, 04:46 PM
it's a more plausible theory than the nut job on CNN who speculated that it went through a black hole.
Missing Flight MH370: CNN anchor genuinely entertains missing plane black hole theory - Weird News - News - The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/mh370-cnn-anchor-genuinely-entertains-missing-plane-black-hole-theory-9204742.html)

paraclete
Mar 20, 2014, 07:48 PM
now where was that black hole again? in CNN carpark?

smoothy
Mar 20, 2014, 07:51 PM
CNN must have gotten LSD laced Sugar cubes in their breakroom.

smoothy
Mar 20, 2014, 07:52 PM
I'd like to add one more theory since my guess is a good as any other, the plane was taken over by people smugglers, flown to Indonesia, jam packed with "asylum seekers" and flown to Australia. Nothing else could explain the apparently senseless disappearance of a scheduled flight from KL to Beijing. There are hundreds of places it could have landed in Northern Australia and I predict that this will start a flood of copycat attempts Not impossible... that falls within the flight range... doesn't it?

paraclete
Mar 20, 2014, 08:00 PM
Yes certainly does, ofcourse i'll probably be proven wrong this time but watch this space

paraclete
Mar 25, 2014, 04:09 AM
well now we have it the possibility that MH370 was a ghost flight, just one more possibility in a plethoria of possibilities, meanwhile in the lower Indian Ocean otherwise known as the Southern Ocean, actually getting hold of an actual piece of debris is elusive, so far identifed are a possible pallet with straps, an orange object, possible life raft and a circular object and well as various images of larger objects.

tomder55
Mar 25, 2014, 07:44 AM
The plane was carrying a cargo of lithium ion batteries . Wouldn't be the 1st time those batteries caused problems on airliners. A Boeing 787 caught fire on the ground at Logan Airport due to those batteries. Batteries in computers have heated up and caused fires on cargo and passanger planes before too.

smoothy
Mar 25, 2014, 09:21 AM
I think the Malaysians shot it down... either on purpose or by accident.

NeedKarma
Mar 25, 2014, 09:28 AM
Now it's a race to find the black box before its beacon batteries die out. Sadly I don't think this place will ever be found. Or if some debris is found we won't have any data to figure out the cause or what happened moments before it veered off track.

smoothy
Mar 25, 2014, 09:35 AM
THis is what happens for allowing Muslims to get in the cockpits of airplanes despite the lessons learned on 9/11 with Muslims and airplanes.

talaniman
Mar 25, 2014, 10:08 AM
LOL Smoothy,we haven't learned the lesson of Christians with guns yet either. Or tax exemptions for that matter. You don't have to be Muslim to be goofy, crazy, or dangerous.

Allowing people to get drunk in a bar is a great idea? Assuming and presuming may be fun speculation, but facts which there are few are inconclusive. Hadn't heard these guys were even Muslims.

Please engage speculation font or your friends will think your NUTS(?).

smoothy
Mar 25, 2014, 10:12 AM
LOL Smoothy,we haven't learned the lesson of Christians with guns yet either. Or tax exemptions for that matter. You don't have to be Muslim to be goofy, crazy, or dangerous.

Allowing people to get drunk in a bar is a great idea? Assuming and presuming may be fun speculation, but facts which there are few are inconclusive. Hadn't heard these guys were even Muslims.

Please engage speculation font or your friends will think your NUTS(?).
Both Pilots were both Muslims... It was on the news... Christians don't hijack planes and fly them into buildings... or fly them into the ground to kill the passengers for some perverted reliious reason. Christians don't brainwash their children into becoming suicide bombers...Christians don't randomly fire misslies into cities full of people of other religions just for fun, but Muslims do.

And there is no speculation Malaysia is a Muslim nation which like most other Muslim nations, Christians and other non-muslims are persecuted.

Obama even demanded the FBI remove all references to Islam being connected with Terrorism from DHS and FBI training manuals and almost everything else.

Not surprised the same media that gets all sorts of sexually inapropriate thoughts when their Messiah speaks would go out of their way to prevent airing any of this.

Proof of suspicious behaviour of at least one pilot..

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/24/mh370-investigators-review-missing-plane-pilots-flight-simulator-records

tomder55
Mar 25, 2014, 10:34 AM
EgyptAir Flight 990

paraclete
Mar 25, 2014, 09:03 PM
what are you trying to say; pilot suicide or malaysian coverup? the only link between the two is they were operated by muslim countries.

The Egyptian flight originated in the US, the Malaysian flight originated in it's home base there are many spirious theories regarding MH370 and we may never be able to examine any of them, but the possibility that MF370 was a ghost flight is highly probable

smoothy
Mar 26, 2014, 05:11 AM
what are you trying to say; pilot suicide or malaysian coverup? the only link between the two is they were operated by muslim countries.

The Egyptian flight originated in the US, the Malaysian flight originated in it's home base there are many spirious theories regarding MH370 and we may never be able to examine any of them, but the possibility that MF370 was a ghost flight is highly probable


Its pretty clear the Malaysians were covering this up... either that or they are the most incompetent people on the planet. I'm leaning towards the coverup.

I'm beginning to believe they knew this much earlier... and probibly know a lot more than they are leading on about.

paraclete
Mar 26, 2014, 05:51 AM
we are getting closer to knowing something

smoothy
Mar 26, 2014, 12:46 PM
What I'd like to know is the fact that if they can put a transmitter the size of a pack of cigarettes on a shark, that will GPS track it for a year. Why can't they put one on every commercial airliner, not in control of the crew, and just change the battery once a year. I guess a plane full of people is not as important as a Great White Shark.

paraclete
Mar 26, 2014, 02:13 PM
to do something like that might overload their tiny brians and of course there is the issue of soveriegnty some countries might not want their planes tracked

paraclete
Mar 26, 2014, 11:53 PM
and once again frustration sets in, 122 objects in a 20 x 20 km stretch of water and yet they cannot be seen with the naked eye

tomder55
Mar 28, 2014, 04:01 PM
Britt Hume tweeted " CNN has now confirmed that planes need fuel to maintain altitude" lol

smoothy
Mar 28, 2014, 05:17 PM
Britt Hume tweeted " CNN has now confirmed that planes need fuel to maintain altitude" lol

Another Einstein in CNN. Maybe he will get the next Nobel prize for that brilliant insight.

paraclete
Mar 28, 2014, 05:30 PM
Has CNN discovered that planes need to fly higher to fly further, I still think this was a ghost flight

smoothy
Mar 31, 2014, 03:39 PM
"BREAKING NEWS FROM CNN - DEVELOPING STORY"

"The Boeing 777 has a serious design flaw"... after it runs out of fuel and the engines quit "IT STRUGGLES TO MAINTAIN ALTITUDE"... Real dumb media people to say the least... LOL



http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/7772.jpg

paraclete
Mar 31, 2014, 08:14 PM
I have long thought the media is populated with people who are otherwise unemployable

paraclete
Apr 5, 2014, 02:33 PM
Missing Malaysia Airlines search: Chinese ship picks up pulse signal, reports state news agency (http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-search-chinese-ship-picks-up-pulse-signal-reports-state-news-agency-20140405-zqrbc.html)

It seems the Chinese might have come into their own and have found a flight recorder in a yet to be targetted area

smoothy
Apr 5, 2014, 09:35 PM
Hopefully its not another wild goose chase. At least the families will have some measure of closure.

paraclete
Apr 6, 2014, 04:41 AM
you know, this is kind of embarrassing, we got one too

tomder55
Apr 6, 2014, 05:20 AM
a second ship ,the Aussie Ocean Shield ,picked up a ping. Problem is that it is 300 nautical miles from the Haixun 01 . Best guess is that the Ocean Shield is closer . The Chinese are using an electronic tin can on string.

paraclete
Apr 6, 2014, 08:36 AM
No the possibility is that these are different objects and that would be possible if say the voice recorder was carried by floating debris and the data recorder sank, or vice a versa nothing about this is going to be straight foward and we shouldn't denegrate the Chinese they might have very good equipment

tomder55
Apr 6, 2014, 10:13 AM
yeah you are right ... they are using US made equipment
Malaysia flight: Chinese vessel using U.S.-made device in search - latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-malaysia-flight-china-pinger-20140406,0,5555586.story?track=rss#axzz2y6kh1cQq)

paraclete
Apr 6, 2014, 04:39 PM
okay so perhaps not the ideal equipment but what is says, like all the other data, is something is there, maybe one of those stealthy dolphins

paraclete
Apr 9, 2014, 07:35 PM
It seems this has developed into a case of around and around (the Indian Ocean) we go and where we come out nobody knows. More pings, somewhat narrowing the search area but as yet no debris. The resources being deployed in the search for MH370 are large, but the finds so far are flotsam and jetsam, a sad comment on the state of our planet

Malaysia Airlines MH370: Searchers narrow in on 'final resting place' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-10/mh370-closer-to-final-resting-place/5379666)

smoothy
Apr 9, 2014, 07:52 PM
I agree... with so many "floatation devices" and stuff that would float in a crash... where is all of it... hell where is any of it.

paraclete
Apr 9, 2014, 08:27 PM
exactly, there are strong currents in that region which would probably carry stuff far to the south but not to find anything when there is so much junk afloat? it looks like the plane went straight in vertically and didn't break up, or maybe it went somewhereelse

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/experts-give-reasons-for-lack-of-debris-from-flight-mh370/story-fnizu68q-1226879692901

smoothy
Apr 10, 2014, 05:12 AM
Even straight in it would have broken up... only if they pulled a Sully Sullenberger Hudson River Plane Landing (US Airways 1549) Animation with Audio - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imDFSnklB0k) would it not have broken up... but few pilots could have pulled that off on a river without waves... but on the open ocean? Even fewer if any.

paraclete
Apr 10, 2014, 03:11 PM
even if that happened there would have been opportunity to deploy life rafts so back to the ghost flight theory

smoothy
Apr 29, 2014, 08:24 AM
Interesting. THe NSA refuses to release files over this claimiing the excuse of "classisified material".

WHat would be classified about a comercial Airline flight?

Obama’s NSA refuses FOIA request on Malaysia flight 370 on grounds of classified info | (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/04/26/obamas-nsa-refuses-foia-request-malaysia-flight-370-grounds-classified-info/)

NeedKarma
Apr 29, 2014, 11:17 AM
As members of that website so clearly admit: the US is involved in downing the jet.

smoothy
Apr 29, 2014, 11:35 AM
I honestly don't know who to believe or what to believe about this downing. They can track a single marine animal for over a year....but they can't track or find a single very large airplane?

Its obvious to most there has been a lot of lies and misinformation from day one about this....and I don't thinks its over yet. Wherever it ended up.

And whatever we are told in the end...it will be forever tainted with the air of suspicion.

paraclete
Apr 29, 2014, 03:49 PM
Interesting. THe NSA refuses to release files over this claimiing the excuse of "classisified material".

WHat would be classified about a comercial Airline flight?

Obama’s NSA refuses FOIA request on Malaysia flight 370 on grounds of classified info | (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/04/26/obamas-nsa-refuses-foia-request-malaysia-flight-370-grounds-classified-info/)

you are making a lot out of a non answer and as this was a fishing expedition it is not surprising it came up with nothing.

The NSA might have been surveilling someone on the plane, just because they didn't say they have no information doesn't mean they have anything of consequence

smoothy
Apr 29, 2014, 04:25 PM
you are making a lot out of a non answer and as this was a fishing expedition it is not surprising it came up with nothing.

The NSA might have been surveilling someone on the plane, just because they didn't say they have no information doesn't mean they have anything of consequence

If they had nothing they would have said as much... the fact they started playing the "classified information" card... is clear indication there actually IS something they are hiding.

paraclete
Apr 29, 2014, 04:32 PM
hiding or protecting an ongoing operation

paraclete
Jun 2, 2014, 09:42 PM
well here we are and now we are told the echo's weren't from MH370 and so after months of looking in the wrong place where do we go from here?

There are a lot of unanswered questions

smearcase
Jun 3, 2014, 04:26 AM
What ever happened with this oil rig worker's claim that he saw something explode that night?
Oil rig worker saw Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 go down: report - National | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/1202910/oil-rig-worker-saw-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-go-down-report/)

paraclete
Jun 3, 2014, 04:58 AM
his theory is as good as any

smearcase
Jun 3, 2014, 12:07 PM
One alleged eye witness but I have never seen anything about any thorough followup to his contemporaneous report. The whole affair has been an exercise in incompetence form day 1. It would seem that neutralizing the effect of your own pings before trying to detect other pings would be covered in Ping Detection 101.
The last message from the aircraft was one 'given' for months then tossed out like it never existed as were so many other hard and fast benchmarks.

Or the plane may have gone to the same place as smoothy's question a bit ago, about Snowden talking about NSA's ability to turn on iphone mikes when the phone appears to be turned off.
I tried to post a comment to that one and when I hit post, it told me I was responding to an unavailable question. Now the question is gone. And maybe this one will be gone soon, too. Or was I dreaming that I saw smoothy's two page post?

smoothy
Jun 3, 2014, 12:11 PM
No it was real... I posted a thread on that topic a couple hours ago tops.. I though it was very important for people to be aware of with all the hacking that's been going on recently. And one I've known was possible for quite some time....

Someone apparently saw fit to delete it for some reason.

NeedKarma
Jun 3, 2014, 12:41 PM
I saw that NSA thread - why was it deleted?

cdad
Jun 3, 2014, 02:17 PM
I had heard last week or so that they were going to release all the raw data to the public. There are many minds in the public domain that would love to have a look and start crunching the numbers to get an idea as to what may have happened. Does anyone know if they actually released them ?

paraclete
Jun 3, 2014, 04:10 PM
There is a report of a plane on fire in the Indian ocean, just a hypothetical what would happen if the plane crashed but didn't sink for several hours, the pings would still be picked up by the sattelite, but the crash point would be far away from the search area

paraclete
Jun 3, 2014, 06:15 PM
This would seem to confirm the report and there was an early report of a plane seen in the Maldives

Undersea audio recording could hold MH370 clue, say Curtin University researchers in Perth | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/national/undersea-audio-recording-could-hold-mh370-clue-say-curtin-university-researchers-in-perth/story-fncynjr2-1226942565742)