One of my friend is here in the usa after receiving diversity visa lottery. She got sick, and is in the hospital. Hospitals financial counselor is telling us that if there is no deposit made she has to tell the embassy. And once she goes out of the country she can't come back in? Is this true? She came here after wining DV lottery

That's right she does not have a medical insurance... she just got here a week ago and has kidney infection.
We tried to ask for a financial plan, to be paid monthly but the counselor is not co operating, for the time being.

Her husband was the one who got the lottery, and she came in with him. Now, Can the husband also be charged?

Can she get a citizenship after 5 years?

If they were to skip out on paying a bill that could be considered financial fraud... and that is one of the reasons a Visa can be canceled.

I'm assuming she didn't buy or have medical insurance.

That's right she does not have a medical insurance... she just got here a week ago and has kidney infection.
We tried to ask for a financial plan, to be paid monthly but the counselor is not co operating, for the time being.

Her husband was the one who got the lottery, and she came in with him. Now, Can the husband also be charged?

Unfortunately... they are both adults... so she would be held individually responsible for that bill. Not the husband. Unless he signed any of the admittance forms including the ones about payment.

They can demand payment in full, its on those forms... I've signed enough of them... how much of an intital payment were they requiring? They get to set the terms (within legal guidelines as far as interest etc).

5000 deposit for the time being, and it keeps on increasing day after day

5000 deposit for the time being, and it keeps on increasing day after day

It would be in their best interest to borrow that money off someone, and establish that plan to pay the rest the hospital is willing to allow... if they have anyone that could loan it to them. Friends or family... thats the easiest way out of this.

I'm assuming she is not still in the hospital racking up new bills. If she were that would account for their changing deposit numbers.

She is still in the hospital... she might be there for 5 more days... and according to the condition she might have to do surgery as well.

Ow... she has my sympathy. That's going to be incredibly expensive.

That is correct, once she leaves the country, she will not be allowed back in. How long had she been over here before the kidney infection? That doesn't happen over night, she must have come with it.

Can't she get emergency Medicaid?

If all else fails, if she can't pay, then she just can't pay. She can consult a bankruptcy lawyer to see if bankruptcy is right for her.

Can't she get emergency Medicaid?

If all else fails, if she can't pay, then she just can't pay. She can consult a bankruptcy lawyer to see if bankruptcy is right for her.

She's not a citizen... any of those reasons ARE all valid reasons to cancel any immigrations process.

She's not a citizen.....any of those reasons ARE all valid reasons to cancel any immigrations process.

This is not true. Why don't you point out any place that says so?

This is not true. Why don't you point out any place that says so?

Go to the INS website.. there is a long list of things that are clearly spelled out.

Recent immigrants aren't elligible for welfare either... there are a lot of things a citizen might get away with that someone here on any type of visa or green card aren't.


http://www.us-immigrationvisa.com/topics/deportation

There is

"The Person Becomes a Public Charge" not far down the page.

And defaulting on a bill as large as this will be could be prosecuted as a Felony.

As a citizen... they could get away with it... but a recent immigrant can't become a financial drain on the USA.

Skipping out on the bill (regardless of ability to pay) under those circumstances is becoming a charge to the pulic because the taxpayer gets socked with that bill. While they try and collect.

... She can consult a bankruptcy lawyer to see if bankruptcy is right for her.

Huh? How would filing for bankruptcy protection affect her immigration status?

She has been here for a week.

Bankruptcy isn't an option for her... I don't think they are qualified.. don't know when they would be.. but certainly not at a week after they get here... and even if they were.. it would affect the VISA status.. especially during the first five years.

Huh? How would filing for bankruptcy protection affect her immigration status?

It would almost certainly be grounds for revocation the first 5 years per the link I posted earlier.

They are required to be completely self supporting OR have someone accepting full legal financial responsibility for them.

she has been here for a week.

There are certain ethnic groups that tend to group together to help each other out in times like this (two examples I know, Koreans and Bolivians).not knowing which group they are part of... is that an option for them.

Go to the INS website..there is a long list of things that are clearly spelled out.

Recent immigrants aren't elligible for welfare either...there are a lot of things a citizen might get away with that someone here on any type of visa or green card aren't.


Deportation (http://www.us-immigrationvisa.com/topics/deportation)

there is

"The Person Becomes a Public Charge" not far down the page.

And defaulting on a bill as large as this will be could be prosecuted as a Felony.

As a citizen...they could get away with it...but a recent immigrant can't become a financial drain on the USA.

Skipping out on the bill (regardless of ability to pay) under those circumstances is becoming a charge to the pulic because the taxpayer gets socked with that bill. while they try and collect.

First of all, that is not an official website. And the things listed do not really apply to permanent residents, which is what the OP said his wife is.

Second, Medicaid is not Public Charge.

So basically, what you said is completely useless.

First of all, that is not an official website. And the things listed do not really apply to permanent residents, which is what the OP said his wife is.

Second, Medicaid is not Public Charge.

So basically, what you said is completely useless.

And your expertise on this subject is what exactly if you are going to be throwing around the claims that I don't know what I'm talking about?

Because I'm calling you out on this. I've actually got experience in this area.

You have not shown anything that says why the OP's wife, a permanent resident, can be deported.

You have not shown anything that says why the OP's wife, a permanent resident, can be deported.
You haven't presented a SINGLE thing that disproved anything I said. Except your claims.. again I ask.. what is your expertise and experience on this topic. And where are your links to prove what I said was wrong.

If you know so much why don't you cite the laws to support it? You were the one who made the claims that she is deportable. The burden of proof is on you.

Here is an actual official web site:
USCIS - Public Charge (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=829b0a5659083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=829b0a5659083210VgnVCM100000082ca60a RCRD)


Q. What publicly funded benefits may not be considered for public charge purposes?
* Medicaid

In addition, that website you yourself cited has got it backwards. The actual law (http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-5672.html#0-0-0-4579) says:

Any alien who, within five years after the date of entry; has become a public charge from causes not affirmatively shown to have arisen since entry is deportable.
The OP's wife's issue definitely arose after entry. So even if what she becomes a Public Charge (which she is not), she would still not be deportable.

If you know so much why don't you cite the laws to support it? You were the one who made the claims that she is deportable. The burden of proof is on you.

Here is an actual official web site:
USCIS - Public Charge (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=829b0a5659083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=829b0a5659083210VgnVCM100000082ca60a RCRD)



In addition, that website you yourself cited has got it backwards. The actual law (http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-5672.html#0-0-0-4579) says:

The OP's wife's issue definitely arose after entry. So even if what she becomes a Public Charge (which she is not), she would still not be deportable.

Just because you can use Google doesn't mean you have the answers.

YOU made the claim I didn't know anything was wrong... and my posts were BS.

And you did it in a very disrespectful way

Yet you refuse to back up your claims or respond with exactly what your expertise and experience is on this topic. After have been asked several times now.

NO immigrant can walk into this country and collect what amounts to a public assistance program a week after they get here... they have to be permanent resident for at least 5 years and are responsible for ALL of their debts or have a sponsor that will be... Doing such is one of the many things that will disqualify someone with a VISA or Green Card.

I have great empathy for the OP... and doing the wrong things will have serious ramifications for them. And I have actual personal experience dealing with the INS.

There are certain ethnic groups that tend to group together to help each other out in times like this (two examples I know, Koreans and Bolivians).not knowing which group they are part of...is that an option for them.

She is from a very poor nation called Nepal

She is from a very poor nation called Nepal

I actually know a family from Nepal... very nice people.

Are they members of a church or whatever their specific religion would have? Looking for a group that might be able to offer them some assistance or at least enough to give them breathing room. I might recommend calling some of the charities local to you.. many of them while religious based are transparent to the actual religion of the people they help.

We are looking into it right now... and the hospital bill keeps on adding up... hopefully we get some sort of path with which we can do a small monthly payment and keep their status.

We are looking into it right now... and the hospital bill keeps on adding up... hopefully we get some sort of path with which we can do a small monthly payment and keep their status.

Definitely keep working with the hospital... it really is in their best interest to come to an agreement on payments.(the hospitals).. But they will tend to lean on you a little hard because they deal with people who do have the means but won't pay all the time.

Hopefully you will find enough help to give them the breathing room they need right now... I know it's a difficult and stressful position to be in. And being recent arrivals not knowig many if any people makes it even harder. They have my best wishes.

If they were to skip out on paying a bill that could be considered financial fraud...and that is one of the reasons a Visa can be canceled.

I'm assuming she didn't buy or have medical insurance.

That is one reason, but it is common procedure for non-entry back into the US if you leave before visa is up.

That is correct, once she leaves the country, she will not be allowed back in. How long had she been over here before the kidney infection? That doesn't happen over night, she must have come with it.

Yeah, if the infection is that severe that it requires hospitalization, it had to be there before she came here just a week ago. I understand the issue with the finances but what type of hospital is she in the will not treat her without some deposit? I went into the hospital 3 years ago and was diagnosed with Leukemia and was treated for a week THEN transferred to another hospital for further treatment WITHOUT any insurance. Something is wrong. Contact the nearest embassy for her country.