I am going through the same thing with my puppy... I came here for advice and I see sometimes people can be kind of harsh with words.. she may have parvo I'm not sure. She did have her shots and dewormer but even with her being very sick I cannot afford a vet. I'm sorry but I don't need to be attacked for not having as much money as some people. I simply love my puppy and seek advice to what may be her sickness and what I should do since I cannot afford her a vet at the moment. I have three children and this puppy was given to my oldest son for his birthday. So I didn't just bring an animal into a home that can't afford 400$ visit to a vet by will. Someone please help! She is about 4 to 5 months old and is a lab and Alaskan husky mix. She is not eating and vomiting white foam and I'm pretty sure she may have had a seizure... anyone..?

She needs to see a vet. She deserves health care, even if that means you work out a payment plan. You accepted the gift of a dog, so you need to care for her.

Well, sorry to be harsh but... since you can't afford a vet and she is vomiting but won't eat, can you at least afford a shovel? That's what you're going to wind up needing to bury her with when she dies... you know... AFTER she suffers.

You can't cure this on your own. You need to talk to a vet about payments.

I understand not being able to afford a vet, vets are expensive, treatment is expensive. My vet charges $100 just to walk through the door, even if no treatment is given. I do understand, I really do.

Now comes the harsh part. We can't diagnose your dog. We can guess, but with the symptoms you're describing, any guess (if the guess is accurate) will need to be treated by a vet. There are no home remedies for parvo (if this is what it is, and it really doesn't sound like parvo to me) even vet treatment doesn't guarantee survival from parvo.

So, I would like to help, and I'll do my best, but I'll need you to answer a few questions, and I also need you to know that I'm not a vet, and anything I say is not a diagnosis, not treatment. I can't give you that. But maybe we can at least figure out if this is something life threatening.

So, here are the questions.

1. When did she have her shots and the de-wormer? Did the vomiting happen shortly after?

2. Is she drinking?

3. Is she pooing and peeing?

4. How long has this been going on for?

5. Have you recently changed her food?

Just as a side note, you should really be yelling at the person that gifted you this dog. In fact, I'd be calling that person up and telling them to pay for the vet bills. An animal should never be given as a gift to someone that isn't prepared to care for it. A dog is a very personal purchase, it should never be gifted to someone. I would bring the dog back to the person that gave it to your son. She's the person that should be responsible for caring for this animal, and frankly, I'd rethink keeping her as a friend.

Call vets and ask if they will see a "RESCUE" animal at a discount. Say you found/rescued the pup and would like to help it but don't have much money. Many will help or send you to some vet who will. I have some pets that were rescued from some bad situations and some that were were just dropped off in the country,My vet gives me a big discount for them. Also. Google" free online veterinary help". Many times you can diagnose and the treat with meds from "pet meds.com".
Good luck

call vets and ask if they will see a "RESCUE" animal at a discount. Say you found/rescued the pup and would like to help it but don't have much money. many will help or send you to some vet who will. I have some pets that were rescued from some bad situations and some that were were just dropped off in the country,My vet gives me a big discount for them. Also. Google" free online veterinary help". Many times you can diagnose and the treat with meds from "pet meds.com".
Good luck

This is really bad advice. Warning, I'm going to be pretty harsh.

First you tell the OP to lie to her vet. That's never a good idea. It's much better to be honest, ask the vet to consider a payment plan (which many vets will do if the animal is sick) than to lie about the animal.

Second, there is no way anyone, even a vet, can diagnose an animal online. Any site that claims to do so, is not a legitimate site. They can offer a guess, an opinion, just like we do here, but they cannot diagnose without running tests, and no vet would risk there license to do so. This is a complete scam, and suggesting that the OP do this, is very bad and very dangerous advice.

"call vets and ask if they will see a "RESCUE" animal at a discount. Say you found/rescued the pup and would like to help it but don't have much money. many will help or send you to some vet who will. I have some pets that were rescued from some bad situations and some that were were just dropped off in the country,My vet gives me a big discount for them. Also. Google" free online veterinary help". Many times you can diagnose and the treat with meds from "pet meds.com".
Good luck
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AMHD most certainly does not advocate lying to your Vet. I have also read some of your other advice. This is not the first time you've sugested lying to get what you want.

You totally plagerized on another thread, word for word - https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/gun-control-didnt-take-long-715117-117.html#post3486770

Please be more responsible.

I came here for advice and I see sometimes people can be kind of harsh with words.. she may have parvo I'm not sure. She did have her shots and dewormer but even with her being very sick I cannot afford a vet. I'm sorry but I don't need to be attacked for not having as much money as some people. I simply love my puppy and seek advice to what may be her sickness and what I should do since I cannot afford her a vet at the moment. I have three children and this puppy was given to my oldest son for his birthday. So I didn't just bring an animal into a home that can't afford 400$ visit to a vet by will. Someone please help! She is about 4 to 5 months old and is a lab and Alaskan husky mix. She is not eating and vomiting white foam and I'm pretty sure she may have had a seizure... anyone..?

You are right, you "don't need to be attacked for not having as much money as others." But you DO need to be attacked (well scolded at least) for accepting care and responsibility of a living being when you can't afford to. If one of your 3 children got sick and you couldn't afford a doctor, would you treat them according to a stranger's guesses?

Why not go back to the person who gave your child the puppy? If this person was close enough to give such a gift, they must have known your financial situation. Explain to them and ask their help in caring for the animal.

But I'm wondering what you expected when posting here. Did you think we could just guess at the problem with such serious symptoms and give you some magic pill to fix it?

The bottom line here is you accepted responsibility for this animal. If you can't care for it, then bring it to a shelter and give it up.

call vets and ask if they will see a "RESCUE" animal at a discount. Say you found/rescued the pup and would like to help it but don't have much money.

And this folks is one of the reasons (besides "I'll pay you back later, I just don't have the money now!") that many vets don't offer this type of help.

Also - to the OP. I understand how you feel attacked. However these are things you need to THINK about before getting a puppy. I spent several THOUSAND dollars the first year of my dog's life due to routine care and some sicknesses. A puppy is NOT a cheap thing and you need to take that into account.

And this folks is one of the reasons (besides "I'll pay you back later, I just don't have the money now!") that many vets don't offer this type of help.

Also - to the OP. I understand how you feel attacked. However these are things you need to THINK about before getting a puppy. I spent several THOUSAND dollars the first year of my dog's life due to routine care and some sicknesses. A puppy is NOT a cheap thing and you need to take that into account.

I completely agree. I also have to stress, again, that no one should ever buy an animal as a gift for someone else. Not ever! That is the worst possible gift you can give someone. Think about it, if they wanted a pet, they'd get one.

I did buy goldfish, an aquarium, all the necessities, for a friends daughter one year. But I called my friend first, and asked if this was okay. It's never okay to buy an animal for someone without checking first, and it's never okay to buy an animal like a dog or cat for someone else. Goldfish adapt to any home, dogs, cats, rabbits, and others, do not.

Bringing a dog into your home is a very personal decision. Just because you like a certain breed, doesn't mean everyone else will. Dogs, cats, rabbits etc, need to be matched to their owners, and the owners need to be the ones to choose the pet, and choose whether to get a pet at all.\

It's a commitment of 12 plus years. It's not right to make that commitment for someone else against their will. It's not only about caring for the animal, cleaning up after the animal, training the animal, it's also the cost, and those costs can get out of control if something goes wrong. It's not right to inflict that responsibility on someone that didn't choose it.

I completely agree. I also have to stress, again, that no one should ever buy an animal as a gift for someone else. Not ever! That is the worst possible gift you can give someone. Think about it, if they wanted a pet, they'd get one.

I did buy goldfish, an aquarium, all the necessities, for a friends daughter one year. But I called my friend first, and asked if this was okay. It's never okay to buy an animal for someone without checking first, and it's never okay to buy an animal like a dog or cat for someone else. Goldfish adapt to any home, dogs, cats, rabbits, and others, do not.

Bringing a dog into your home is a very personal decision. Just because you like a certain breed, doesn't mean everyone else will. Dogs, cats, rabbits etc, need to be matched to their owners, and the owners need to be the ones to choose the pet, and choose whether to get a pet at all.\

It's a commitment of 12 plus years. It's not right to make that commitment for someone else against their will. It's not only about caring for the animal, cleaning up after the animal, training the animal, it's also the cost, and those costs can get out of control if something goes wrong. It's not right to inflict that responsibility on someone that didn't choose it.

In my previous response I did not intend for the man to lie about the rescued dog... I just wanted the man to have a chance to save the little critters life... after all it does need to be rescued... Anyway... I agree that you should NEVER buy a pet for some one else, especially for their children (unless you hate them and the animal in question, because both will suffer) I am unfortunately in the awkward position of living in the perfect geographic location
For animals to be abandoned in the country... I now have four cats, one just showed up and the other three were born in my basement. The offspring of abandoned cats. My dog is a rescue animal who found us after being rescued from a six year old girl. A Christmas gift that by Easter the newness wore off
And one wanted to bother with it. Her uncle took the dog and no one noticed for two weeks. It kept slipping its collar while he searched for a good home for it and it found us... Any way... 1800-PetMeds® - Huge Savings and The Best Guarantee (http://www.petsmed.com) is great for all medicine... shots , vitamins. Etc etc... Oh and to the person who suggested they just buy a shovel... you kindness and compassion are undoubtedly not your best attribute...

The fact is, before medicine can be administered, a diagnosis has to be made, and that's not something anyone (not even a vet) can do online. Once a vet diagnosis your pet (not online, but an actual examination by an actual vet), and meds are prescribed, by all means, get the cheapest price, I have nothing against that.

I am against people attempting to get a diagnosis online, and I'm even more against anyone giving a diagnosis, and prescribing meds, online.

......Oh and to the person who suggested they just buy a shovel.......you kindness and compassion are undoubtedly not your best attribute.....

Thanks for your opinion. Stick around here as long as I have and see how long it takes until you become entirely frustrated with these people who are willing to let an animal suffer because they can't afford a vet. I realize not everyone has money but if you accept the responsibility, you better be willing to accept the consequences. It's not right to have an animal suffer and die because you can't afford a vet. I am not here to be kind and compassionate. I am here to be honest with people and in that answer, I was honest. Kind and compassionate gets what in a case like this? Nothing. They will do nothing, the dog will suffer and die. I am just done with seeing things like this. The fact is that this dog needs a vet and will die without one. How do I sugar coat that?

So again, thanks for chiming in and adding that. I am glad that you are on a higher level than I am... let's see how long you stay there.

You are not suggesting that anyone lie? You told a woman who can't afford Vet care for her child's pet to "Say you found/rescued the pup and would like to help it but don't have much money." So in your world that's the truth?

Now you are recommending self medicating an animal.

You are also not the only person on the Board who adopted a pet that came from a sad background - mine's a rescue from a dog fight ring. Other people have worse horror stories. That doesn't make anyone noble or educated in pet care. It's not a given.

I agree with Odinn - you are slowly slipping off your high perch. Two threads which advocate not being truthful (including lying to your spouse) and one where you plagerized an entire newspaper article.

You probably have something to offer here on AMHD. I'd suggest you read other threads and see how other people respond.

You are not suggesting that anyone lie? You told a woman who can't afford Vet care for her child's pet to "Say you found/rescued the pup and would like to help it but don't have much money." So in your world that's the truth?

Now you are recommending self medicating an animal.

You are also not the only person on the Board who adopted a pet that came from a sad background - mine's a rescue from a dog fight ring. Other people have worse horror stories. That doesn't make anyone noble or educated in pet care. It's not a given.

I agree with Odinn - you are slowly slipping off your high perch. Two threads which advocate not being truthful (including lying to your spouse) and one where you plagerized an entire newspaper article.

You probably have something to offer here on AMHD. I'd suggest you read other threads and see how other people respond.

Bravo! Standing ovation! Kudos!!

Bravo!! Standing ovation!! Kudos!!!
I second that!!

Thanks for your opinion. Stick around here as long as I have and see how long it takes until you become entirely frustrated with these people who are willing to let an animal suffer because they can't afford a vet. I realize not everyone has money but if you accept the responsibility, you better be willing to accept the consequences. It's not right to have an animal suffer and die because you can't afford a vet. I am not here to be kind and compassionate. I am here to be honest with people and in that answer, I was honest. Kind and compassionate gets what in a case like this? Nothing. They will do nothing, the dog will suffer and die. I am just done with seeing things like this. The fact is that this dog needs a vet and will die without one. How do I sugar coat that?

So again, thanks for chiming in and adding that. I am glad that you are on a higher level than I am...let's see how long you stay there.

I understand your frustration... completely... I live in an area where the farmer type mentality seems to rule... animals stay outside, are never neutered / spayed and if they get sick , just shoot them and bury them . They seem to think the animals are a tool for rodent control and property protection... it really bothers me... Anyway , I agree and you can't ( nor should you )sugar coat the fact the dog will die without a vets help, but being mean doesn't help... and even though I know it would not help ,I would still like to SLAP a few of my neighbors...

You are not suggesting that anyone lie? You told a woman who can't afford Vet care for her child's pet to "Say you found/rescued the pup and would like to help it but don't have much money." So in your world that's the truth?

Now you are recommending self medicating an animal.

You are also not the only person on the Board who adopted a pet that came from a sad background - mine's a rescue from a dog fight ring. Other people have worse horror stories. That doesn't make anyone noble or educated in pet care. It's not a given.

I agree with Odinn - you are slowly slipping off your high perch. Two threads which advocate not being truthful (including lying to your spouse) and one where you plagerized an entire newspaper article.

You probably have something to offer here on AMHD. I'd suggest you read other threads and see how other people respond.

Didn't she rescue the pup from going to the pound? Isn't she trying to save the animal from death ?

"but being mean doesn't help" -

Neither does lying.

I think there's a need to speak the truth. If the OP (original poster) doesn't have the money for Vet care you find it acceptable to let the animal suffer, perhaps live, perhaps die, because... again... she can't afford Vet care? Have you no compassion for a suffering animal?

If you don't like the way your neighbors treat their pets, take a stand. Join an organization. Have a voice. Speak up. Being quiet and sugar coating the truth, being "nice" helps exactly no one.

Know why I have 2 rescue dogs and not 22? Because I can only financially and emotionally support these two. The day that changes I will have one or none. I got a THIRD job, yes, third, many years ago when things were tough for me and my GSD got sick. I had three choices - put him down, rehome him, find the money to pay for his medical treatment. I typed term papers at night (after working full time and part time all day). He lived 5 more years, and he didn't suffer because I was helpless.

That doesn't make me a martyr or a saint or, for that matter, a good person. It makes me a person who loved her dog.

You have a need to keep us informed about your attributes. Good for you - I'd back off a little so you don't have so far to fall (but, again, that's just me).

This OP needs to get real. Usually the people who post these questions (and you'll learn the hard way) refer to the pet as "their baby," "one of their children." They could "never, ever" rehome the pet, not their child, not their baby. Meanwhile the dog/baby/child has uncontrollable diarrhea, can't eat or drink, is wasting away and suffering - but, hey! The loving words read really well when you're playing to the crowd.

A lot of us here are activists by birth, by nature, by education, and trained/informed in the same manner.

I think you need a little more compassion for the animal and a little less "making nice" to the pet owners who sit by and let the animal suffer.

Question: "Didn't she rescue the pup from going to the pound?

Answer: No, she did not. "Didn't she rescue the pup from going to the pound? Isn't she trying to save the animal from death ?"

Question: "Isn't she trying to save the animal from death ?:"

Answer: No, she's trying to own a pet without having to pay money to pay for any medical bills for that animal. If this involves ripping off the Vet with some gut wrenching "adoption/found animal" story and that causes the rest of us who do care and do get our animals the appropriate and proper medical treatment, apparently you think "so be it."

And the moral of the story? Don't accept/buy/acquire what you cannot afford. These are living, breathing creatures.

You have the website that enables her to self-diagnose and treat. What's your recommendation here?

Brace yourself for heavy sarcasm - all that's wrong with the dog is the white foam coming out of its mouth (and, presumably nose), it can't eat or drink and it's had at least one seizure. No reason to get medical attention here! It's not like it's serious and the dog is suffering. This is also a great example for her children - a really great lesson in compassion and kindness.

And here's a thought - give up the Internet and OP could save $X a month. Maybe that's a good start.

And to Alty - I think Elvis is leaving the building, and it's time to close the theatre.

Didn't she rescue the pup from going to the pound?

No. The pup was given to her child as a gift from a friend.

Didn't she rescue the pup from going to the pound? Isn't she trying to save the animal from death ?

Did you even read the thread, or did you just post and decide to guess at an answer?

It states clearly in her very first post that the dog was given to her child as a gift. She did not rescue it, and the fact that she's not getting it medical attention, clearly shows she's not trying to save it from death.

Read before you respond, and don't respond if you're just guessing.

Did you even read the thread, or did you just post and decide to guess at an answer?

It states clearly in her very first post that the dog was given to her child as a gift. She did not rescue it, and the fact that she's not getting it medical attention, clearly shows she's not trying to save it from death.

Read before you respond, and don't respond if you're just guessing.

You are 100% correct... I stand corrected... please forgive me... will attempt to more forthcoming in the future

Hi. Can you please check your inbox for a message I sent please? I am not sure if you would know whether you had a message. Please check. Thanks and good luck!

Hi. Can you please check your inbox for a message I sent please? I am not sure if you would know whether or not you had a message. Please check. Thanks and good luck!

If you're PMing the OP to discuss this thread, you should be posting that here. Giving advice via PM is against the rules of the site, and I find it hard to believe that you'd be PMing someone with only one post, just to chat about other things.

If you're PMing the OP to discuss this thread, you should be posting that here. Giving advice via PM is against the rules of the site, and I find it hard to believe that you'd be PMing someone with only one post, just to chat about other things.

My apologies and thank you. I will read the rules more thoroughly.

845-268-9263 (http://valleycottageanimalhospital.com/). This is just a phone number in a town where I used to live long ago. It is a 24 hour animal hospital. They will ask you questions and they will do the best they can to tell you what to do. You can also try checking a humane society in your area. Even a pet store. But give that number a try. At the time I was able to take my pet to them but I was just so surprised. Before they knew whether I'd even be taking the pet there, they really guided me and talked for quite some time. I have also called them regarding wild animals as well. Best of luck to you.

Alty, the rest of my message to her really was not related to her question or this thread so I feel it's safe and best to leave the rest out. Thank you again.

No worries. The reason we have that rule is to safeguard the poster, and the person answering the question.

We value the quality of advice given on this site. If people start answering questions via PM, there's no way for the experts to see that advice and warn the OP (original poster) if it's bad, or even dangerous advice. That's why anything relating to a question on the site, should be kept on the thread where the question was asked.

PM's are for personal things, friendly chit chat, not answers to a question. :)

I note that the OP has never come back. I also believe many cities have pet ERs. They are not not-for-profit corporations but are in the business to make money.

Secondly, I find it very difficult to believe that the advice when a pet is seizuring will be anything BUT "it needs Vet care." And a pet store for advice, a pet store that possibly sells "farmed" dogs?

(B) Do you post under a second name? You have a chatty, almost blog style, somewhat familiar to me - ?

Too many purchase dogs & cats, or "adopt" them without thinking they'd ever have to go to the vet within a few days/weeks or months of getting the animals.

When my dogs need medical attention, they get help. I think I'm smart enough to know what warrents an emergency call or if it can wait until the following day... But I know how my pets are, what is normal, what is abnormal and what is seriously abnormal.

Puppies with unknown history that are vomiting with diarrhea and aren't eating or drinking really need to go see a vet. Dogs that are seizing on the floor, drooling foam from their mouths, suddenly going blind due to overdose of horse wormer need to go to a vet with really no questions asked. Its really a no brainer.

There can be some advise given over the internet, you can even look up symptoms and kind of figure it out.. but the thing is, even if everyone on here thought it might be a specific type of illness, there is no magic drug that can be given over the counter that will make the pet better. There are things you can do to maybe get the pet through the night and avoid the emergency charge, but definitely not make it better.

In no way is adopting an animal with no money to provide for its needs (food, health care) better than death. I mean, as long as the pet stays healthy, than I'm sure it is better off than being put to sleep... but pray to God each night that the pet doesn't need any type of medical attention...

Which goes further... to take PROPER care of your pet, you should put into your budget vaccines, spay/neutering and dental health. None of that is cheap. You can nickel and dime your way through most of those procedures, but result is, in order to take good care of your pet, you need MONEY in order to keep it healthy and happy. Adopting a dog thinking that you are all kinds of right without the money to get it the proper vaccines in order for it not to get sick, spay/neuter it to avoid unwanted cancers (And litters) and taking care of its mouth when its teeth are decaying IS NOT GOOD PET CARE!!

Times are tough, everyone is feeling it.. you are the only person that is feeling a squeeze on money... but sometimes you need to either find the money or give up the pet and NOT get another one. And I guess that means you have to tell your kids that your family is not ready for a pet at this time... and than tell your friend who blindly gave you this puppy to never call back again... Your friend put a financial burden on you that you cannot afford.. and now you have to explain to your kids why the puppy is sick and why its either going to die or have to be given up. To me, that's a pretty crappy friend. They should have asked you first..

Pets are not free... nothing is free... and sometimes the "free" pets are the most expensive ones. For the OP, no one would think bad of you if you can't keep this puppy. Puppies (dogs) should be fun, not a financial burden that backs you into a corner. Surrender it to a vet, surrender it to a good rescue and/or shelter. Apply for CareCredit... put up a donation jar... There are ways around the whole "no money" thing... You just need to do what is best for your family and that dog.