No let's call it what it really is, just another Muslim attack

Two shot by police after soldier hacked to death on street near Royal Artillery Barracks in Woolwich | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/world-news/two-shot-by-police-after-soldiers-hacking-death-near-royal-artillery-barracks-in-woolwich/story-fndir2ev-1226648801254)

It may take sometime before the facts emerge as to why a British soldier was run down in his home street and savagely murdered by Muslims but what is clear this was a Muslim attack. This is what we can expect anytime one of these religious fanatics gets his nose out of joint.

They keep trying to say they are a "Religion of Peace," according to Mahathir bin Mohamad of Malaysia. My question is "When did they start?"

They have not been at peace in 1400 years and I don't expect them to start anytime soon. The point is some individuals might want to live in peace as we all do but there are large numbers who are radicalised and who don't accept our way of life. These people are not tolerant towards others. Apparently this was about Afghanistan but I suspect it is about infidels in Muslim lands Let's face it we are an offence to them and I am just as offended by their actions but I don't go around killing people

Look at Syria and Iraq they can't even be tolerant towards each other and the world expects they will behave reasonably and responsibly? Everywhere there are Muslims there is trouble

Oh my God I saw the video one guy holding blooded knife in his hands and saying that he is sorry that our women and children has to see that. And he also said lot of other stuff. Blood was all over the road.

Yes a Big Muslim A@@hole there, couldn't care less about his victim or the people around him. Good thing he was shot pity he survived. That's my opinion and I stand by it

I will echo the ancient injunction the only good muslim is a dead muslim, call me racist if you like, call me something else but the truth is clear and the truth is eternal

The day when they will take it easy and stop taking seriously and literally written in that book, things might improved.

the day when they will take it easy and stop taking seriously and literally written in that book, things might improved.

They can't do that. The book flawed as it is, is all they have without that they have no anchor to their abhorant beliefs, now by saying this I become a target for them but they are cowards at heart because my God is more powerful than their god and they will not face me one on one

How to suck at your religion - The Oatmeal (http://theoatmeal.com/comics/religion)

Thank you karma now go you and do likewise

Anytime. Good luck over there.

Anytime. Good luck over there.

Yes we have good luck here

Europe is the canary in the coal mine.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/82/Book_cover_for_While_Europe_Slept.jpg/200px-Book_cover_for_While_Europe_Slept.jpg

Who listens to the excuses of a criminal justifying his acts?

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4637577872474366&pid=1.7

oh yeah the wool wich attack yeah it said on the news it was a terrorist attack I know what he did was extremely wrong but apparently the police shot him..
I don't think that's fair... just because he did that doesn't mean the police have to go drastic and do that.. arresting him is much more easier.




take a look at this article

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22634468

oh yeah the wool wich attack yeah it said on the news it was a terrorist attack I know what he did was extremely wrong but apparently the police shot him..
I don't think that's fair... just because he did that doesn't mean the police have to go drastic and do that.. arresting him is much more easier.




take a look at this article

BBC News - Woolwich attack: Suspects known to security services (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22634468)

According to the article you linked I don't think they had a choice.


Another eyewitness said the police "didn't even get a chance to get out of their car".

"They just had to shoot him because he was just hurtling towards them," Graham Wilders told the BBC. "And then the other one, with the handgun, lifted it up and obviously they shot him."

If I'm a cop and some guy wielding a cleaver or whatever with bloody hands after beheading a guy on the street came hurtling at me I'd shoot him. Totally justified.

The two suspects videotaped butchering a soldier to death on a London street before spouting extremist slogans to bystanders were part of a early security services investigations for possible terror links, according to a government British official.

The official, who spoke Thursday on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about the investigation, said he could not provide other details because the suspects may face trial, the Associated Press reported.

Investigations by Britain's domestic security service, MI5, can include undercover surveillance, phone tapping and communications intercepts.

Two more arrests in brutal London attack (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/05/23/london-attack-street-soldier-muslim-attack-butchered-knives/2353841/)

oh yeah the wool wich attack yeah it said on the news it was a terrorist attack I know what he did was extremely wrong but apparently the police shot him..
I don't think that's fair... just because he did that doesn't mean the police have to go drastic and do that.. arresting him is much more easier.



A policeman being attacked by a murderer has no right to shoot his attacker? What cloud do you live on?

Of course the police had every right to shoot them they were armed and highly dangerous and the pity is they only wounded them

A policeman being attacked by a murderer has no right to shoot his attacker? what cloud do you live on?

of course the police had every right to shoot them they were armed and highly dangerous and the pity is they only wounded them

In another post of hers she mentions that she's 14...

Even a fourteen year old is not that niaive, surely. Murder and bloody mayhem deserve only one reply

even a fourteen year old is not that niaive, surely. murder and bloody mayhem deserve only one reply

Oh, don't get me wrong... for once, you and I agree on something. ;)
I was just pointing out that she is not an adult and may have a skewed view on this... it also appears from some of her posts that she may be Muslim as well so that could have something to do with the opinion.

Two more arrests in brutal London attack (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/05/23/london-attack-street-soldier-muslim-attack-butchered-knives/2353841/)


Muslim religious groups and charities were quick to condemn the attack and urged police to calm tensions. The Muslim Council of Britain called it a "barbaric act that has no basis in Islam," adding that "no cause justifies this murder."

Two more arrests in brutal London attack (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/05/23/london-attack-street-soldier-muslim-attack-butchered-knives/2353841/)

I do believe the Muslim Council of Britain is practicing taqiyya.

Well of course they are in deniel

If Britain and other countries will stop giving asylum to dictators, former terrorist and criminals, things will change.

We these people in that category? How do you know?

Probably the best take (http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2013/05/22/the-manhood-of-the-west/) on what's happened to the UK.


This incident illustrates, if nothing else, the endpoint of the social engineering of the West. It has been remarkably effective.

From a certain point of view, the British crowd behaved perfectly and this is the way “they” all want us to behave. The populace sheltered in place, didn’t do anything rash, talked to the perpetrators as people. They waited for the police to come and the hospital helicopter to take the corpse away. Some will doubtless get counseling to overcome their shattering experience.

And then they will congratulate themselves on how tough British society is; resilience and all that. The more caring will leave some flowers by a railing and hold a few candle vigils for healing and peace, until these wither and blow away and the news cycle washes up a new object of attention.

The attackers knew they were actors in a drama — as keenly watched in their communities as on the BBC. And in that other audience they were asking: “How will the locals behave?” We know now. And that other audience may derive an entirely different lesson from this tableau: “See? Only their women act like men. They follow orders. They are nothing anymore — these Westerners. They are a civilization whose core has been destroyed.”

And would they be right? Who will be the judge? Per C.S. Lewis:


And all the time — such is the tragi-comedy of our situation — we continue to clamor for those very qualities we are rendering impossible. You can hardly open a periodical without coming across the statement that what our civilization needs is more “drive”, or dynamism, or self-sacrifice, or “creativity”. In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.

What could go wrong?

Apparently everything. And in typical fashion David Cameron responded with the obligatory "this is not representative of Islam" drivel. Al-shabaab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shabaab) says it is:

Cameron said what he supposed to say, that's diplomacy. The real need is policy change.

We need less diplomacy and more balls.

What is needed is to take the gloves off, deport the radicals back to where they came from and support the destruction of the militants wherever they are found. Muslims declared war on the west in 2001 and there can only be on outcome and it is not the winding down of the war to a police action as Obama proposes. He doesn't have the stomach for what must be done to little Barack and too much Hussien. The French have the right idea take the fight right to them

what is needed is to take the gloves off, deport the radicals back to where they came from and support the destruction of the militants whereever they are found. Muslims declared war on the west in 2001 and there can only be on outcome and it is not the winding down of the war to a police action as Obama proposes. He doesn't have the stomach for what must be done to little Barack and too much Hussien. The French have the right idea take the fight right to them

As I was saying...

what is needed is to take the gloves off, deport the radicals back to where they came from and support the destruction of the militants whereever they are found. Muslims declared war on the west in 2001 and there can only be on outcome and it is not the winding down of the war to a police action as Obama proposes. He doesn't have the stomach for what must be done to little Barack and too much Hussien. The French have the right idea take the fight right to them

Deportation? not exactly. I would suggest a Dr. Zhivago ride to Riyadh, Tehran, and Mecca.

This incident illustrates, if nothing else, the endpoint of the social engineering of the West. It has been remarkably effective.

From a certain point of view, the British crowd behaved perfectly and this is the way “they” all want us to behave. The populace sheltered in place, didn't do anything rash, talked to the perpetrators as people. They waited for the police to come and the hospital helicopter to take the corpse away. Some will doubtless get counseling to overcome their shattering experience.

And then they will congratulate themselves on how tough British society is; resilience and all that. The more caring will leave some flowers by a railing and hold a few candle vigils for healing and peace, until these wither and blow away and the news cycle washes up a new object of attention.

The attackers knew they were actors in a drama — as keenly watched in their communities as on the BBC. And in that other audience they were asking: “How will the locals behave?” We know now. And that other audience may derive an entirely different lesson from this tableau: “See? Only their women act like men. They follow orders. They are nothing anymore — these Westerners. They are a civilization whose core has been destroyed.”


Belmont Club (http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/)

Belmont Club (http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/)

Nice to know the opinions you post are not your own

As I was saying...

Yes we do sometimes agree

nice to know the opinions you post are not your own

If someone expresses it better than I can why not quote with proper credit ?

if someone expresses it better than I can why not quote with proper credit ?

I was referring to the fact you didn't give thecredit in the first post

London killer was related to a terror group named Al mujhairan, banned organization. One line of condemning the incident by muslim groups is just not enough.

London killer was related to a terror group named Al mujhairan, banned organization. one line of condemning the incident by muslim groups is just not enough.

I agree Muslim are partisan in these matters, this form of terrorism or confrontation will not end until they end it themselves. That will take a Muslim withdrawal from western countries and a western withdrawal from muslim countries and frankly they are dulluded if they think we want those lands.

All the financial help these terror groups are getting from rich muslims spread all over the world through various mediums. It's time to scrutiny financial world.

No doubt that is going on

Lord Voldemort in the Harry Potter series is referred to as "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named". In our Muggle world "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" is Muslim terrorism.

A French soldier was stabbed by a 'robed attacker ' .
French soldier stabbed in neck by robed attacker - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/french-soldier-stabbed-in-neck-by-robed-attacker/2013/05/25/7164ead0-c56a-11e2-914f-a7aba60512a7_story.html)

BBC reported Nick Robinson was forced to apologize after he described the attacker of the slain British soldier ;who does have a name... Lee Rigby, as being 'of Muslim appearance'.

BBC political editor Nick Robinson's extraordinary apology after backlash against 'Muslim appearance' comment about Woolwich killers | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329777/BBC-political-editor-Nick-Robinsons-extraordinary-apology-backlash-Muslim-appearance-comment-Woolwich-killers.html)

The riots in Stockholm are being called ' youth riots'.

But the racially charged riots, which have taken place largely in poor immigrant communities, actually expose deep social divisions that have threatened Sweden for years. There is, essentially, the Sweden of legend — and then there are large, poor immigrant communities where unemployment is rampant, especially among young people, and political participation is down.
Five charts that help explain Sweden's youth riots (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/24/five-charts-that-help-explain-swedens-youth-riots/)
Who are these poor young immigrants ? Have they immigrated from India ,China ? No these are Muslim immigrants.
They operate under no such restraints. They proudly express their devotion to Allah as they decapitate the infidel .

Agree, enough of this religious sensitivity and secular drama. People will call it as they see it.

Recall the AP just eliminated the term Islamist from their stylebook. And as Mark Steyn notes:



If you're thinking of getting steamed over all that, don't. Simon Jenkins, the former editor of the Times of London, cautioned against “mass hysteria” over “mundane acts of violence.” That's easy for him to say. 


I think Orwell would even be shocked.

This is where PC gets you pussyfooting around terrorists and let's call them what they are Muslim fanatics who follow a pedophile prophet of death

this is where PC gets you pussyfooting around terrorists and let's call them what they are Muslim fanatics who follow a pedophile prophet of death

Here's what some PC types call an Islamophobe website, but note the scholarship they bring to their "Islamophobia."

Muslim Opinion Polls - Challenging the 'Tiny Minority of Extremists' Myth (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Opinion-Polls.htm)

Powerful statistics there cats but you can bet the muslims aren't listening so you are preaching to the converted

powerful statistics there cats but you can bet the muslims arn't listening so you are preaching to the converted

Just hoping Tal and WG and the troll kid read them.

HI cats here's another they might read

Most Muslims are peaceful, like most non-Muslims, but the Koran groans under the weight of its own contradictions, with entreaties to kindness co-existing with exhortations to merciless war. If the Koran were only a text of peace and mercy, tens of thousands of Muslims could not invoke its verses to engage in violence. Those who gravitate to the wrathful messages of the Koran bring their own pathologies with them, which they then cloak in zealous piety. Apologists argue that those who use the Koran to justify violence are not Islamic. And in the West there is fearfulness to trigger the belligerent victimology that extreme Muslims use to cloak intransigence, separatism and special-pleading.

Read more: psychopaths using Islam to justify their bloodlust. (http://www.smh.com.au/comment/twisting-islam-to-justify-cruelty-20130526-2n535.html#ixzz2URDmpSqv)

hI cats here's another they might read


Most Muslims are peaceful,

How many of those 'peaceful' Muslims joined the party on Sept. 11, 2001, dancing in the streets? I admit my view is colored by the fact that I lost a friend who I owed my life to at the embassy in Teh'ran, but I really think about 180 rads would improve their attitude.

How many of those 'peaceful' Muslims joined the party on Sept. 11, 2001, dancing in the streets? I admit my view is colored by the fact that I lost a friend who I owed my life to at the embassy in Teh'ran, but I really think about 180 rads would improve their attitude.

Look I appreciate your point of view, they have been able to get away with what they are doing for too long. Islam is a subversive element in western countries and needs to be seen as such, Fanatical Islam is destroying countries in Africa right now and is responsible for major conflicts, Personally I think we should help all the Christians in these countries to migrate and send all the Muslim back, then maybe they will be content, they can war among themselves as much as they like and we can turn off the news feed after all muslim kill muslim is not news, it is life. And yes I think you have hit upon the Palestinian solution

So much for free speech in the UK, at least 11 people have been arrested (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330809/Lee-Rigby-death-11-people-UK-arrested-making-racist-anti-religious-comments-online-British-soldiers-death.html) in the UK for "making 'racist or anti-religious' comments on Twitter" since Rigby's brutal murder. That's probably coming soon to the US, once Obama gets his Obamacare campaign groove going you better watch what you say on Twitter, his snitches are probably already lined up.

Anyway, if you see someone leaving bacon at a mosque in the UK be sure and let Faith Matters (http://faith-matters.org/) know so they can fight such radical extremism.

So much for free speech in the UK, at least 11 people have been arrested (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330809/Lee-Rigby-death-11-people-UK-arrested-making-racist-anti-religious-comments-online-British-soldiers-death.html) in the UK for "making 'racist or anti-religious' comments on Twitter" since Rigby's brutal murder. That's probably coming soon to the US, once Obama gets his Obamacare campaign groove going you better watch what you say on Twitter, his snitches are probably already lined up.

Anyway, if you see someone leaving bacon at a mosque in the UK be sure and let Faith Matters (http://faith-matters.org/) know so they can fight such radical extremism.

Free speech is not free if it leads to death and twitter is not speech. Everyone should watch what they say on the internet it may be held against them, as far as bacon is concerned I remember when a pig's throat was cut and he was allowed to run through a mosque in Sydney and no one thought it radical or extreme but of course it was a criminal act. How times have changed

free speech is not free if it leads to death and twitter is not speech. Everyone should watchop what they say on the internet it may be held against them, as far as bacon is concerned I remember when a pig's throat was cut and he was allowed to run through a mosque in Sydney and no one thought it radical or extreme but of course it was a criminal act. How times have changed

Maybe down under, but here free speech is free speech... except on college campuses which is another thread, Holder has just instituted unconstitutional speech codes. But you miss the point, they're cracking down on the wrong thing in the UK and that Faith Matters seems more upset at offending Muslims than they are at Muslims beheading people in the street and making a spectacle of it.

It's all bass ackwards.

You may think they have it wrong but cracking down on those who are radicalising youth by their "free speech" is long overdue. I will say it again speech is not free if it costs a life and americans need to learn this lesson just as much as anyone else otherwise you should applaud the pig as an act of free speech.


Muslims need to understand we are offended by the acts of the radicals among them and they have the power but not the will to stop these radicals so someone else will do it for them It was said of Christians in Germany is that all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing, the same applies to Muslims. Time to decide which side you are on PC or righteousness

Yeah we see where your thoughts lead to... Eric Holder using a 1918 "espionage" law to curb the rights of a free press.

yeah we see where your thoughts lead to .....Eric Holder using a 1918 "espionage" law to curb the rights of a free press.

Law reform is the legitimate pursuit of politicians. You have courts to ajudicate these matters

you may think they have it wrong but cracking down on those who are radicalising youth by their "free speech" is long overdue. I will say it again speech is not free if it costs a life and americans need to learn this lesson just as much as anyone else otherwise you should applaud the pig as an act of free speech.


Muslims need to understand we are offended by the acts of the radicals among them and they have the power but not the will to stop these radicals so someone else will do it for them It was said of Christians in Germany is that all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing, the same applies to Muslims. time to decide which side you are on PC or righteousness

There is no righteousness in taking away my constitutional rights to appease the appeasers and what's happening here is that PC crowd has this delusion that if we just stop offending the religion of perpetual outrage they'll behave. In effect, they are given a pass while the "righteous" are muzzled when they SHOULD be speaking out.

If jihad is used as tool of terror and spread in the islam then calling it islamic terror is right. These people are not freedom fighter or fighting for any noble cause. Soul purpose of jihad centred around islam not humanity.

There is no righteousness in taking away my constitutional rights to appease the appeasers and what's happening here is that PC crowd has this delusion that if we just stop offending the religion of perpetual outrage they'll behave. In effect, they are given a pass while the "righteous" are muzzled when they SHOULD be speaking out.

Aren't we saying the same thing, muslims need to be muzzled in the area of hate speech just like anyone else

arn't we saying the same thing, muslims need to be muzzled in the area of hate speech just like anyone else

The problem with your hate speech idea is who is the arbiter of what's considered hate speech and the selective application of the law. We now have a US attorney warning that people could be prosecuted (http://www.newsmax.com/US/attorney-prosecution-religious-intolerance/2013/05/31/id/507402) for anti-Muslim speech.

I've seen worse anti-Christian, anti-Bush, anti-Tea Party, anti-conservative in general speech and I have yet to see such a warning in that regard. It's always open season on such groups, but don't you dare offend the religion of perpetual outrage.

"you are right not all muslims are terrorist but all terrorist are muslim."

I simply do not believe all terrorists are Muslim - it's not that simple. Anyone have the facts and figures on this?

What about those "skirmishes" by jews, lebanese, arabs, etc in that middle east area?

NK, apparently those don't count.

What about those "skirmishes" by jews, lebanese, arabs, etc in that middle east area?

Haven't you noticed Karma the lebanese and arabs who are a problem are MUSLIM and I don't count jews fighting back when attacked as terrorist, I think they have shown remarkable restraint