Lol I was discussing this with my girl yesterday.
As she informed me that She was a virgin when we first slept together and was 23. The first time the only reason I even believed she was a virgin was because there was a lot of pain and also bleeded and also it was on 3rd day of her periods starts.

The first night we spent together we did everything - I am talking everything you can possibly imagine and she was the one that actually initiated oral. I did mention to her that I had my doubts that she was really a virgin. I believe her now of course but she said that men who meet virgins assume they are not sexual and this is wrong on our part.

Opinions please?

My opinion? Why does it matter so much?

And my opinion... You either believe her or you don't. If you don't, get out of this relationship because it won't work out.

My opinion? Why does it matter so much?

Just a matter of truth and lie.
I've nt lied to her for anything.

What happened before you is really none of your business.

Fifty Shades of Grey ;)

Why do you think virgins need to be asexual or bad in bed?

Virgins can read, and watch porn, and masturbate and have sexual feelings. They're not DEAD, just virgins.

And either you believe someone or you don't. If you don't, then leave because you don't trust the person's word.

Most women do not court oral, ( and no one does that I know of) as not being a virgin, so most likely she did oral before.

But from watching movies, and looking on internet, why would she not know what to do.
Maybe she had it planned for months what she wanted

most women do not court oral, ( and no one does that I know of) as not being a virgin, so most likely she did oral before.

But from watching movies, and looking on internet, why would she not know what to do.
maybe she had it planned for months what she wanted

Yes she also watched many porn movies.

Why do you think virgins need to be asexual or bad in bed?

Virgins can read, and watch porn, and masturbate and have sexual feelings. They're not DEAD, just virgins.

And either you believe someone or you don't. If you don't, then leave because you don't trust the person's word.

Guys like virgins because, "the more innocent something is, the more entertaining it is to destroy it."

So guys like to destroy women? Is that what you're saying?

Sounds like SHE deserves someone better than YOU.

Girls stay virgins for many reasons, but pretty much none of those reasons have to do with pleasing a guy.

guys like virgins because, "the more innocent something is, the more entertaining it is to destroy it."

You really need to step down off your pedestal.

And don't start speaking for all guys.

"I am talking everything you can possibly imagine" Me thinks your bragging and I agree with the others. What happened in Vegas stays in Vegas.

So... you feel disappointed because you didn't get to 'destroy' her? What?

No. No its not like that.

M just telling that she should be clear and should tell me truth. I'll not mind if she tell me truth.
I never lied her. And there should not be anything to break trust. Till now it was OK before sex. But after that this truth/lie game is coming.
Dats why I want to know from you guys. How could I be sure about that from her behavior/body language / anything else

So... you feel disappointed because you didn't get to 'destroy' her? What?

No. no its not like that.

M just telling that she should be clear and should tell me truth. I'll not mind if she tell me truth.
I never lied her. And there should not be anything to break trust. Till now it was OK before sex. But after that this truth/lie game is coming.
Dats why I want to know from you guys. How could I be sure about that from her behavior/body language / anything else

Why do you think she hasn't told the truth?

That's what I'm not understanding.

You have NO REASON other than your pre-conceived notion that virgins should be stupid and ignorant to believe she is lying.

The problem is your own brain, not the girl.

Hopefully the "the more innocent something is the more entertaining to destroy" was just a really bad translation of some phrase in whatever your native tongue is. OTHERWISE - you have worse issues than just this one question.

A female CAN be really good in bed and be a virgin - because she can watch porn, has sexual feelings, has a BRAIN and can figure out what to do. Sex is not rocket science. It's over now anyway -- if she wasn't before, she certainly isn't a virgin NOW so just get over it.

You are not going to have an easy time in the relationship if you're mistrusting and not taking her word for things. That's your issue to deal with.

The definition of virginity mean never had penile insertion. Virgin does not mean no sexual intimacy, nor does it mean innocence. It simple means the girl never allowed a penis to be inserted.

In my opinion you need a serious attitude adjustment.

The definition of virginity mean never had penile insertion. Virgin does not mean no sexual intimacy, nor does it mean innocence. It simple means the girl never allowed a penis to be inserted.

In my opinion you need a serious attitude adjustment.


Please help how to adjust my attitude. Give me some ways to remove such things from my mind.
Any habits I've to start. I want to change myself. Please show me the way.

Please help how to adjust my attitude. Give me some ways to remove such things from my mind.
Any habits I've to start. I want to change myself. Pls show me the way.

Stop thinking of women as objects for you to control and "destroy"... how's that for a start?

The main thing you can do to change yourself is to think of your girlfriend and women in general as like you; equal to you and not objects. Consider that she is a human with feelings (sexual feelings too!) and that she, like you, wants honesty and value. Her value is not her virginity or in you being the "first to be there" but in her heart, mind, and self.
Knock off the "destroy women" crap.

Second tip: be compassionate. If you want people to be trustworthy - YOU be trustworthy and extend them trust.