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Jessyfay
Mar 13, 2007, 07:32 PM
I had no idea what I got myself into, I love dogs and have had only great experiences with my dogs in my past, so when I decided to buy a mini dash. From a pet store ( which I regret) the dog is turning out to be a retard! An imbred. It is over a year old and still isn't house train, I know I followed all the housetraing help, I even read the monks of new skeet books and I've tried command words, praising, rewards, crating, spanking, changed my tone with my voice,. everything, THE dog still poos and pees in my house! I have peer dog lovers who say the daschund is the worst dog to house break, because there so imbred and stubborn, It's like my dog forgets. I tell him to go lie down in his bed and stay, he'll listen for 10 minutes and than get up and start running around, I can't take it! Does anybody know how to house train an untrainable dog? Because I'm this close of buying an electric collar. OH, and he always runs out of the yard. Every time I let him out in the backyard he finds a way out and runs all through the neighbors yards. Help how can I teach him to stay in the yard. IF your thinking of getting a mini dash. Stop they are the worst dogs to train!

labman
Mar 13, 2007, 07:52 PM
It will take a lot of work to correct all your dog's problems. Yes, buying from the pet store was a mistake. Next, I doubt you started as explained at https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/information-articles-our-dogs-expert-labman-53153.html#post251809 The crate is essential. You need to carefully introduce it now, less the dog fouls it because of stress or deliberately.

I doubt there is much you can with the dog that wants to run, except whatever it takes to make the yard secure. Some dogs will run every chance they get and others won't.

Jessyfay
Mar 14, 2007, 05:22 PM
The crate, only works when it is just small enouph for him to lie down comfy in. and that doesn't effect the reason that he doesn't listen, are dogs known for purposely pooing and peeing on your couches because they are angry or upset with you?

labman
Mar 14, 2007, 06:09 PM
There are things dogs do that could be interpreted as spite or revenge, but fear or stress may be a better explanation. You may be scaring the ____ out of him. I think you need to calm down and do some more reading. Try looking at some of the books on the list at https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/information-articles-our-dogs-expert-labman-53153.html#post251804

I think you are also falling into the common trap of judging a breed of dog by a few examples. Not all dogs are typical of their breed. Many lines are quite different. Even puppies out of the same litter are often quite different from each other. Mini Dachshunds may have a bad reputation because so many are poorly bred and many of the people buying them don't find a good source information about them. A few years ago I was trying to understand why I see so many questions from people having trouble housebreaking all sorts of breeds. I did an internet search. Site after site had weak advice on housebreaking leaving out such essentials as using a crate or praising the dog. I was reported to the American Italian Greyhound society for bad mouthing their site here. I thought it was just one more poor site.

kattygirl
Mar 15, 2007, 10:20 AM
I have a dachshund and I LOVE him. He is completely potty trained and the only issue we have is his need to chew everything in site. We have a crate for him. He may not like it but he uses it and never pees or poops in it. I can tell you that a dachshund usually does what they want unless well trained. I can't imagine my life without my little guy in it. Have patience and really work with yours and you will probably see an improvement. I can tell you I have found that gentle commands work better than harsh ones with my pup. Good luck.

Jessyfay
Mar 15, 2007, 08:42 PM
He pooped in my truck today. I think he get's separation anxiety because I just stepped out to grab a drink from the corner store and when I got back he pooped in my truck! He was outside in the backyard for an hour before that. WHY did he decide to poop in my truck while I was gone for not even 10 minutes

labman
Mar 15, 2007, 08:49 PM
I really think it is stress. The one Lab I had was afraid of everything. Every time I tried to get her near a train, she pooped.

Jessyfay
Mar 16, 2007, 12:57 PM
He's either really really stressed or because I got him from a pet store and I have no background whatsoever, he could be imbreded or lack of oxygen when he was a pup. Because he has a very short attention span, and it's like he doesn't remember what happaned a hour ago. Today he peed all over me. I came home from the store, I was gone for 45 minutes and he went outside before I left. When I came back I let him out of his crate and he jumps in my lap and pees all over me. Why did he do this?

Jessyfay
Mar 16, 2007, 12:58 PM
My 5 year old has the best advice so far,
I asked her what we should do about the dog who doesn't want to stop peeing in the house she said,

" Give him love, lot's of love and when he pees in the house, say NO and put him outside and than give him more love"

labman
Mar 16, 2007, 01:20 PM
It could be submissive wetting. Standing tall, looking him in the eye, and talking gruffly will make it worse. Many dogs eventually outgrow it, but you can reduce it by building the dog's confidence up. Start with obedience training. The key to most behavior problems is approaching things using the dog's natural instincts. Dogs see all the people and dogs in the household as a pack with each having their own rank in the pack and a top dog. Life is much easier if the 2 legged pack members outrank the 4 legged ones. You can learn to play the role of top dog by reading some books or going to a good obedience class. A good obedience class or book is about you being top dog, not about rewarding standard commands with a treat. Start at Raising Your Dog with the Monks of New Skete (http://www.dogsbestfriend.com/) As you praise the dog for following your commands, it will build its confidence.

Play tug of war with the dog and lose. However at the end of the game, take the rope or toy and put it up, less the dog becomes confused about who is top dog.
Ropes from the pets' store quickly turn to hazardous shreds. Ones I made
Lasted much better. Go to a hardware or home center that sells rope by the
Foot. Buy 2' of 3/4" poly rope. Melt the ends, and tie knots in it. Get
Them as tight as possible, put it in a vise and pound it with a hammer. Watch
Carefully, and be ready to discard when it comes apart.

Jessyfay
Mar 16, 2007, 04:34 PM
I've read raising a puppy from new skete and how to be your dog's best friend from new skete, both books I apply to my dog. My dog has a disibility, I have concluded that I have a problomatic dog. It wasn't submissive wetting it was a full puddle.

Jessyfay
Mar 16, 2007, 07:37 PM
I came home from ice skating and let him out of the crate put him the backyard and told him "GO PEE" that's his potty word, and he went PEE ! I can't believe it worked! And I gave him Lot's and Lot's of praise, let's hope it stays because every time I think he's getting better I find a puddle or a log somewhere

Jessyfay
Mar 16, 2007, 08:07 PM
Not even an hour and he was behind me in the office sleeping on the futon, after he went outside and took a HUGE pee , I turn around and find another Huge puddle in my new futon, I'm freaking out, now why did he just pee again after going outside and having a huge pee. I stuck his nose in it and put him outside. GRRRRRRRR!! I'm telling you, my daschund is a retard.

labman
Mar 16, 2007, 08:11 PM
Very good. One success does not mean he is house trained now, but you should have more success and fewer accidents. One day you will realize how long it has been since the last one.

Jessyfay
Mar 17, 2007, 11:13 AM
My dog cannot retain memory for that, he is always peeing and pooing in the house. He's an adult dog, he should be housebroken by now. Every dog owner I meet asks me what kind of dog I have and when I tell them it's a mini daschund they always go. "good grief" those dogs are horrible to train.
My dog has no retainable memory. He get's punished for peeing in the house and than he get's praise for peeing outside and he doesn't understand "ok, if I pee here on the bed will I get punished, oh yeah I remember, i better go outside" He just pees wherever.
DON'T EVER GET A MINI DASCHUND< THEY ARE HORRID LITTLE DOGS!

fmacdonald
Mar 20, 2007, 09:55 AM
I had no idea what i got myself into, I love dogs and have had only great experiences with my dogs in my past, so when i decided to buy a mini dash. from a pet store ( which I regret) the dog is turning out to be a retard! an imbred. It is over a year old and still isn't house train, I know I followed all the housetraing help, I even read the monks of new skeet books and I've tried command words, praising, rewards, crating, spanking, changed my tone with my voice,... everything, THE dog still poos and pees in my house! I have peer dog lovers who say the daschund is the worst dog to house break, because there so imbred and stubborn, It's like my dog forgets. I tell him to go lie down in his bed and stay, he'll listen for 10 mins and than get up and start running around, I can't take it! does anybody know how to house train an untrainable dog? because I'm this close of buying an electric collar. OH, and he always runs out of the yard. Every time i let him out in the backyard he finds a way out and runs all through the neighbors yards. Help how can I teach him to stay in the yard. IF your thinking of getting a mini dash. Stop they are the worst dogs to train!
I have two mini doxies - one I got from rescue. They are both wonderful and loving and were not hard to train at all. I crated them from the beginning and let them out every few hours. When they went outside, I praised them. I have to admit, one does have a stubborn streak in some things, but all in all they are the best. My vet told me from the very first day I got my dogs that if I loved them I would crate train them and NEVER give them table food. It worked!

Tuscany
Mar 20, 2007, 10:07 AM
I have a mini doxie that is the love of my life. And I have a doxie that I rescued from a family that did not have the time to devote to him. They are 2 completely different dogs, but both are loving and special in their own way.

Tuscany was not easy to housebreak, but once we got on a schedule he got the idea quickly and is completely housebroken now at 7 months. Ollie on the other hand came to us as a 2 year old not housebroken. It has taken a long time to get him to where he will now go to the door when he has to go out, (but he does have an occational accident). But, it took a lot of time on our part. We started watching for Pee signs (things he did that made us know he that he had to go), and we would put him out before he had a chance to pee on the rug (sometimes 2 times in 15 or 20 minutes). He would then be praised, given a treat, and brought back inside. It seems to have worked.

I have to say that your comment about mini's being horrid little dogs is completely wrong. They are actually fun, loving dogs that are loyal to their people. I have had other dogs in my past, and I have to say, I have had some of my best times with my mini. I would not trade my minis for any other dog in the world. AND I used to be a loyal Lab only household.

labman
Mar 20, 2007, 10:35 AM
I am disappointed that even people, that claim to be experienced, stereotype breeds based on the few they know. I have no doubt that there are mini Dachshunds that will never be anything except horrid little dogs. Any dog will do much better with good early socialization and training. A little care in choosing nice parents makes a big difference too.

Even if you made an unfortunate choice in a puppy, it is still entitled to love and training.

GiGi1
Mar 21, 2007, 07:41 AM
I would first like to say that I apologize in advance if my post offends you, but... it is obvious that you are entirely too frustrated to give this dog what he needs. You seem aggravated and angry to me. If it is getting under your skin that much and you are reduced to calling him "retarded" and constantly belittling him have you ever considered giving him to someone that has a lot of time to spend with him? I feel that your frustration is making him even more nervous that his breed usually is. Dogs are very sensitive and they sense what their owners are feeling. My advice is you may need to calm down a bit, count to 10, (or whatever works) BEFORE scolding him or give him to someone that doesn't work and has time to work with him. JMHO

kattygirl
Mar 21, 2007, 02:49 PM
JesseyFay what state do you live in? Maybe someone on here would be willing to take your dog and give it a home. If it is angering you this much you should give it to someone who has the patience for it.

labman
Mar 21, 2007, 06:41 PM
I hate to see anybody give up their dog. Perhaps it might be best in this case, but not to just anybody. I think the dog needs to go to a rescue. It needs to be taken into a foster home to be retrained as necessary and placed in the right home for it. You may
Find a rescue near you starting at American Kennel Club - Breed Rescue (http://www.akc.org/breeds/rescue.cfm)

It takes special skills to work with a dog that likely started as most pet store dogs, poorly bred and poor early socialization. Nobody here, including me, has the training and experience to help. My experience is with well bred puppies, and I have extensive training in the proper early socialization. Early socialization is so important that my puppies come with a service dog tag permitting them to go in public places as soon as I get them at 7 weeks. We often stop for dinner at a restaurant on our way home with a 7 week old puppy.

Jessyfay
Mar 25, 2007, 12:13 PM
It's been 5 days straight now and no accidents, Let me clear this up, I made this board to vent my frustration and anger towards this dog, and relieve my stress, I bought my dog from a bad pet store, a foolish impulse buy on my part, but I love my dog and would NEVER give him up, I came on here to vent and , yes there are days where I think my dog is a bloody RETARD and there are some days where I think he's the greatest thing on four legs,
You have to realize that my dog is extreamly messed up, he was removed from his mother before he was weened properly from her tit. My neighbor who has a dog says that she could tell right away he was removed to young because when my dog visits her dog, he goes straight to the other dogs tits and tries to nurse. I have a problematic dog, he has severe stress, insecurity issues and bad separation anxiety, I made this board to vent and get support, not for someone to tell me to get rid of my dog.
To those who post support, thanks I appreciate it.

Jessyfay
Mar 25, 2007, 12:22 PM
I think what is really working with the house breaking, is that I removed the crate completely, he sleeps and stays in his bed at night beside my bed and I let him out in the backyard every couple of hours, for about 30-45 minutes. To do his business. Every time I let him outside I make him ring the bells I tied to the back door so he knows that this means to be let outside to do his business. I command him his potty word which is "GO PEE". He is spending more time outside to establish a comfort with outside, I even started feeding him outside on the porch. I've seen a huge improvement, no accidents for 5 days straight, knock on wood.
The only time I crate him now is when I leave the house for more than 2hours but less than 8hrs

Jessyfay
Mar 25, 2007, 12:25 PM
I'm still struggling on his separation anxiety thou, last night I left the house for a couple of hours and he destroyed the kitchen garbage, when I came home he knew he that it was wrong and he did something bad because he ran into his crate with his head down.
I can't even leave him in the car because it get's so bad he'll poop/pee in the car.

RubyPitbull
Mar 25, 2007, 01:36 PM
Jessyfay, it would be a good idea when you post on this forum if you are upset and want to rant, say you are ranting. Most people post to ask specific questions and look for constructive advice. If you let people know you are annoyed and need to vent, then they know how to take it and will respond accordingly. There a number of people who have done that and it can work quite well. Especially if you are looking for people to empathize with you.

I am glad that you love your dog and you have given him a home. It is unfortunate that you made an impulse buy and you have a dog that was bred so irresponsibly. With that in mind, with poorly bred dogs, it does take a lot more patience and can take a longer time to train them. You will eventually have some major victories, as you have stated with his ability not to soil inside the house. There will be small ones as well. He might always have certain problems. But, all you can do is try your best and be as patient as possible with this poor little guy. Have you taken a look at labman's advised reading list on the sticky at the top of the dog forum? There are some very good books there. I am sure you are familiar with at least a couple of them. If you have a Barnes & Noble, Bordersbooks, or any of the large chain bookstores in your area, you might want to go there. Buy a cup of coffee, sit down and look through some of those books he suggests. The great thing about those stores is that they leave you alone to enjoy your beverage and allow you to read as long as you want. I never stop reading and picking up training tips and suggestions. When something doesn't work for a particular problem, I will look for other ideas and test them, until I find something the dog will respond to.

One thing I will mention that deals directly with the problems you are having, your little guy doesn't know that he has done something wrong. If you don't actually catch them in the act, such as getting into the garbage, they don't make the connection. All they know is that every time you come home, at some point, you get annoyed. That is what he is responding to. He can sense it. He can sense the minute you are walking in the door that your frame of mind is not in a positive place. So, he will retreat to his crate.

For now, the best thing to do is to use that crate, even if you leave for only an hour. It will allow you the freedom of not worrying and puts him in a safe place when you are not around to monitor him. You might want to forgo the training in the truck for a while until you can get as good a handle as possible on the stuff that is going on at home. The other alternative is to get a little pet carryall bag that you can place him in when he is with you in the truck. Just keep him within restricted boundaries for now. Allow him the freedom to roam in the yard or in the house when you can be there to monitor him. Believe me, this will go a long way to saving your sanity and keeping everyone in a happy positive mood.

Tuscany
Mar 26, 2007, 04:34 AM
Ruby-
Have to spread the love more, but wanted to say that you are exactly right on with your response.
I encourage Jessy to use her crate. Doxies are known for getting into things if left unattended in a home. The crate is the safest place for him to be.
I am so glad that the "potty training" is going better!

kattygirl
Mar 26, 2007, 07:18 AM
Ok, I am not sure if anyone else would ever recommend this but it works wonders for my pet. When we go out for just an hour or so or if we take Zeus along with us in the car and have to leave him we put a muzzle on him. I can tell you he likes that a whole lot better than his crate. Since he can't chew anything up we usually come home to find him with his blanket and fav toy on the couch. For longer periods we do still crate him though.

RubyPitbull
Mar 26, 2007, 07:24 AM
kattygirl, if the muzzle doesn't stress him out and he is fine with it, it is a safe method for the short period you are talking about.

By the way, I meant to comment on your avitar. He is a cutie.

Tuscany
Mar 26, 2007, 08:25 AM
Katty,
That sounds like a wonderful idea. I know that if left alone Tuscany and Ollie would tear my house apart. Who said two heads are better than one?! In my case 2 heads cause twice the trouble. But I still love them!

Dog people... we are a breed all of our own :)

kattygirl
Mar 26, 2007, 02:33 PM
Thank you Ruby and hi Tuscany!!

Arsenalroxmyworld
Mar 27, 2007, 12:40 AM
I had no idea what i got myself into, I love dogs and have had only great experiences with my dogs in my past, so when i decided to buy a mini dash. from a pet store ( which I regret) the dog is turning out to be a retard! an imbred. It is over a year old and still isn't house train, I know I followed all the housetraing help, I even read the monks of new skeet books and I've tried command words, praising, rewards, crating, spanking, changed my tone with my voice,... everything, THE dog still poos and pees in my house! I have peer dog lovers who say the daschund is the worst dog to house break, because there so imbred and stubborn, It's like my dog forgets. I tell him to go lie down in his bed and stay, he'll listen for 10 mins and than get up and start running around, I can't take it! does anybody know how to house train an untrainable dog? because I'm this close of buying an electric collar. OH, and he always runs out of the yard. Every time i let him out in the backyard he finds a way out and runs all through the neighbors yards. Help how can I teach him to stay in the yard. IF your thinking of getting a mini dash. Stop they are the worst dogs to train!
Just take him back to the pet store and say I want a refund it is a retard just give me my money back!

Jessyfay
Mar 27, 2007, 10:31 AM
Can't right after I bot him, the pet store closed down and went out oh business, it was a really bad pet store

pompano
Aug 3, 2007, 11:47 AM
I think you would be better off selling the dog.You would get some of your money back,and he could move on to another home.Both of you would be much happier.:confused:

RubyPitbull
Aug 3, 2007, 01:41 PM
Geebella & pompano, jessyfay made a number of posts about her dachshund. I thought you might be interested in the following link. It was the last post made by Jessyfay.
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/dog-boyfriend-can-you-decide-me-98047.html

She hasn't been back to this site since June 5. We have no idea what the outcome was. She refused to give the dog up. My heart aches for that poor little dog.

labman
Aug 6, 2007, 06:50 PM
Well we can hope it's that she doesn't have internet access in her new apartment.

calicolombia
Aug 16, 2007, 04:15 PM
Well, I have a girl dashund that will be a year old on the 25th of this month and I got her last October. I started with the crate that was perfectly her size and took her out every two hours. I know, that sounds crazy! It did work. I did it for 3 months straight and did not skip and I did take her out the play for 15 to 20 minutes, then put her back in. Then she got she go the idea, so at night the crate would be next to my bed and she would wimper when she needed to go the potty. It is hard work, but she is awsome. She does not have any accidents now. And for all the people say that dashunds are dumb that is not true. YOU HAVE TO HAVE PATIENCE!! After the dog goes potty outside the reward is getting to play out for those few minutes. If the dog does not use the potty when outside it goes straight into the crate until 30 minutes later and you try again. They are great dogs and the sweetest things too. If disobedient,you use the crate! I hope this helps.. :o

achillesdog
Dec 5, 2007, 10:46 AM
HI. Im new here. I am having so many problems with these 2 puppies we just "rescued". I read this page and all of your frustrations with the potty training are understandable! Wow! Its so hard. :(

midnight11wally
Mar 21, 2008, 03:25 PM
I have Mini dachshund and love him. They are very hard to house break, buy the shock collar. We used the shock once on him and now only use the tones for good and bad he knows it is wrong to go in the house, he has a dog door where he can go out but if we leave for a few hours he will go at the door in the floor. If I leave him home with the collar on he goes out and stays out of trouble. My big concern for him was that he darted out the front door in to the street when someone came over. This was something I felt for his safety I needed to break tried it all and only the collar worked. He now knows how to shake, roll over, dance, play dead, fetch (brings the ball back), speak soft and loud and sneak. He is a joy to be with and people are amazed at all the tricks he knows. He loves the attention and seems to enjoy the constant attention. We are working on some new tricks and he hardly ever wears the collar anymore. I just get it out when he does something I don't want him to do and he will stop, no collar needed. They are really smart and really don't care if they are in trouble. Don't give up on your little one, they can be the joy/love of your life.

Tuscany
Mar 23, 2008, 05:32 AM
Hi midnight,
I know you are new here so I thought I would help you a bit. Before you post a comment please be sure that the question is current. This question is from over a year ago. We love having you here as another ear and shoulder. Just check the dates and you will do just fine!

Welcome to AMHD!

JNTLAW1998
May 11, 2008, 06:25 PM
OMG, I feel your pain. We bought the cutest little guy. Sheldon. He is now 6 months, and we are still having problems. He is crate trained, does well all night long and then BAM! We are just as frustrated as you are. If you get any great advice let me know. We are inches away from sending him to a new home. :mad:

Take care and good luck!

slyvik69
Mar 26, 2009, 10:51 AM
:mad:
I had no idea what i got myself into, I love dogs and have had only great experiences with my dogs in my past, so when i decided to buy a mini dash. from a pet store ( which I regret) the dog is turning out to be a retard! an imbred. It is over a year old and still isn't house train, I know I followed all the housetraing help, I even read the monks of new skeet books and I've tried command words, praising, rewards, crating, spanking, changed my tone with my voice,... everything, THE dog still poos and pees in my house! I have peer dog lovers who say the daschund is the worst dog to house break, because there so imbred and stubborn, It's like my dog forgets. I tell him to go lie down in his bed and stay, he'll listen for 10 mins and than get up and start running around, I can't take it! does anybody know how to house train an untrainable dog? because I'm this close of buying an electric collar. OH, and he always runs out of the yard. Every time i let him out in the backyard he finds a way out and runs all through the neighbors yards. Help how can I teach him to stay in the yard. IF your thinking of getting a mini dash. Stop they are the worst dogs to train!

slyvik69
Mar 26, 2009, 10:53 AM
You know YOU are so wrong, do not get a collar like that.. How would you like that done to you. I feel you don't have the patience and he feels your anxiety. You need to be calm, and sounds like you're not. give him a new home cause he's probably being mistreated by you. I have 5 daschunds, and NONE OF THEM are like that. They are smart, lovable, and great companions.

Kitkat22
Apr 9, 2010, 08:30 PM
STFU!!! shock the piece of crap, they aren't worth anything he could have gotten a better dog!!!! no matter what you say and whine about these dogs suck!!! My sheltie is prince and never acted in such a way and spoil him dearly and I'm sure he never liked the daschund either, it's a breed for reatrds or people with low IQ's i feel bad the poster who chose these crap breed without research!

You should have a shock collar around your neck for being an idiot! I'll bet you don't like kids either. YOU ARE A JERK! Retard is a word seven year olds say. People who are mean to a dog will also be mean to a child, I would suggest you have neither... :mad:

Lucky098
Apr 9, 2010, 08:30 PM
How about we close this thread before this idiot slanders the breed anymore...

friend4u178
Apr 9, 2010, 08:43 PM
stfu!!! Shock the piece of crap, they aren't worth anything he could have gotten a better dog!!!! No matter what you say and whine about these dogs suck!!! My sheltie is prince and never acted in such a way and spoil him dearly and i'm sure he never liked the daschund either, it's a breed for reatrds or people with low iq's i feel bad the poster who chose these crap breed without research!





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shazamataz
Apr 9, 2010, 11:04 PM
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