View Full Version : Centroid of an ellipsoid
 
 jimmy1843
Oct 12, 2012, 12:41 PM
What is the centroid (or center of mass) of a homogenous half-ellipsoid in terms of its semi-axes (a, b, c)? Is it different from that of a half-ellipse?
 ebaines
Oct 12, 2012, 12:46 PM
The center of mass is at the intersection of its semi-major and semi-minor axes.
 jimmy1843
Oct 12, 2012, 12:48 PM
But where in the z axis? Remember this is half-ellipsoid.
 ebaines
Oct 12, 2012, 01:10 PM
Remember this is half-ellipsoid.
 
Sorry - I missed that.  You have values for a, b, c, for the equation
 
 
\frac {x^2} {a^2} + \frac {y^2}{b^2} + \frac {z^2}{c^2} = 1
 
 
Right?  The center of mass along the z-axis can be found from
 
 
z_{cm} = \frac {\int_0 ^c zA(z) dz}{V}
 
 
where V = volume of the half elipsoid, which is V= \frac 2 3 \pi abc, and A(z) is the cross-sectional area as a function of z.  The cross-section is an ellipse - you will need to come up with equations for the lengths of the semi-major an semi-minor axes as a function of z, use that to find an expression for A as a function of z (hint - the area of an ellipse is \pi times the lengths of the semi-major and semi-minor axes), and put that into the above integral. It works out pretty nicely - post back with what you get.
 jimmy1843
Oct 20, 2012, 10:21 PM
Sorry - I missed that.  You have values for a, b, c, for the equation
 
 
\frac {x^2} {a^2} + \frac {y^2}{b^2} + \frac {z^2}{c^2} = 1
 
 
Right?  The center of mass along the z-axis can be found from
 
 
z_{cm} = \frac {\int_0 ^c zA(z) dz}{V}
 
 
where V = volume of the half elipsoid, which is V= \frac 2 3 \pi abc, and A(z) is the cross-sectional area as a function of z.  The cross-section is an ellipse - you will need to come up with equations for the lengths of the semi-major an semi-minor axes as a function of z, use that to find an expression for A as a function of z (hint - the area of an ellipse is \pi times the lengths of the semi-major and semi-minor axes), and put that into the above integral. It works out pretty nicely - post back with what you get.
 
In order to findan expression for A as a function of z, we consider: 
pi*x*y=A(z) 
 
We use: 
 
\frac {x^2} {a^2} + \frac {z^2}{c^2} = 1
 
 
and 
 
\frac {y^2}{b^2} + \frac {z^2}{c^2} = 1
 
 
solving for x and y in terms of z, we obtain: 
x = a*sqrt(1 - z^2/c^2)
y = b*sqrt(1 - z^2/c^2)
 
putting these two in the integral, we come up with 
 
z_{cm} = \frac {\int_0 ^c pi*x*y dz}{V}
 
 
Substituting x and y: 
 
z_{cm} = \frac {\int_0 ^c pi* a*sqrt(1 - z^2/c^2)*b*sqrt(1 - z^2/c^2) dz}{V}
 
 
After simplifying and integrating we get: 
 
 
z_{cm} = -3/4*piabc^2/{2/3*pi*abc}
 
 
 
z_{cm} = -9/8c
 
 
Am I on the right track?
 ebaines
Oct 22, 2012, 06:59 AM
x = a*sqrt(1 - z^2/c^2)
y = b*sqrt(1 - z^2/c^2)
 
putting these two in the integral, we come up with 
 
z_{cm} = \frac {\int_0 ^c pi*x*y dz}{V}
 
 
 
 
Not quite - the formula is:
 
 
z_{cm} = \frac { \int_0 ^c zdV} {V} = \frac {\int_0 ^c z \pi xy dz}{V}
 
 
Note the 'z' term that you left out.  It results in the numerator becoming
 
 
\int_0 ^c \pi ab z(1-\frac {z^2}{ c^2}) dz
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
z_{cm} = -9/8c
 
 
Am I on the right track?
 
Clearly the value for z_{cm}  must lie somewhere between 0 and z.  With the correction above you should get it now.
 jimmy1843
Oct 22, 2012, 08:31 AM
Not quite - the formula is:
 
 
z_{cm} = \frac { \int_0 ^c zdV} {V} = \frac {\int_0 ^c z \pi xy dz}{V}
 
 
Note the 'z' term that you left out.  It results in the numerator becoming
 
 
\int_0 ^c \pi ab z(1-\frac {z^2}{ c^2}) dz
 
 
 
Clearly the value for z_{cm}  must lie somewhere between 0 and z.  With the corection above you should get it now.
 
 
Oh yes! Sorry I missed it. My oversight. I think the answer should be: 
z_{cm}  = 3/8c
I hope this time I'm correct (?) 
Thanks.
 ebaines
Oct 22, 2012, 09:14 AM
I think the answer should be: 
z_{cm}  = 3/8c
I hope this time I'm correct (?) 
Thanks.
 
Yes - I agree with your answer - nicely done!