So Republicans just hate black people, is that it?

Democrats seem to think that... despite the fact they are who fought against desegregation and to keep the Jim Crowe laws that hardest. Which were things the Republicans championed, not them.

You could throw nuts at them, that's how you feed them.

You could throw nuts at them, that's how you feed them.

In Canada maybe, we have more respect for people in the US. But thank you for yet another provocative, irrelevant contribution.

In Canada maybe, we have more respect for people in the US. But thank you for yet another provocative, irrelevant contribution.
Sorry but it's people at the RNC convention:
https://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=%22This+Is+How+We+Feed+Animals%22&btnG=Google+Search&safe=active (pick the source you like)


“GOP attendee ejected for throwing nuts at African American CNN camera woman + saying ‘This is how we feed animals.”

As opposed to OBama himself telling republicans to get on the back of the bus...

Don't believe he said it... well here he is on video in his own words doing it.

Obama Tells GOP "Get In Back" | Obama "Get In Back" | Video | Mediaite (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-to-gop-%E2%80%98they-can-come-for-the-ride-but-they-have-to-sit-in-back/)

And that wasn't the only time he did it.

YOu might not grasp the significance and the meaning to that being a Canadian, you would have to go back to Rosa Parks and before to understand the meaning behind being told to get on the back of the bus.

As opposed to OBama himself telling republicans to get on the back of the bus......

And again, context is everything.

And again, context is everything.

Tell any Black to get on the back of the Bus and there isn't any context you could think of that would shut the left up.

It's a two way street... he used those words... and in the context of that speech, which I have heard over and over.. he meant the very same thing as it meant to blacks when they were told right up to the late 60's they had to ride in the back of the bus.

In fact I heard him say it when he said it live on TV. And my initial thought was he did not just say that did he? Which in fact he did.

YOu might not grasp the significance and the meaning to that being a Canadian, you would have to go back to Rosa Parks and before to understand the meaning behind being told to get on the back of the bus.Yea, I got it. Hang on, got to feed my pet polar bear. http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/images/smilies/eyeroll.gif

Yea, I got it. Hang on, gotta feed my pet polar bear. http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/images/smilies/eyeroll.gif

Clearly you don't grasp the connotations behind a quote like that.

Sorry but it's people at the RNC convention:
https://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=%22This+Is+How+We+Feed+Animals%22&btnG=Google+Search&safe=active (pick the source you like)

And once again we're all racists because of one idiot, right?

Some former Yahoo news guy (former because he got fired (http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/08/yahoo-news-fires-david-chalian-source-133662.html)) had a Kanye West moment and said of Republicans, "They're not concerned at all. They're happy to have a party with black people drowning."

I guess they should have not just canceled the first day of their convention, but every day and descended on Louisiana to lend a hand. Just like Obama, right?

Oh wait, he's campaigning in Virginia today (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/28/campus-tour-brings-obama-to-uva/) and doing an online chat today (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/z1c9z/i_am_barack_obama_president_of_the_united_states/) "while black people drown"as David Chalian put it. Guess he had nothing better to do.

But we still just hate black people because we're racists, right?

I don't understand all the sensitivity around race on either side. I think it gets to such an extreme that, in an effort to not be racist, we become so aware of race... that it actually makes us racist!

Power to the freckled people!

Power to the freckled people!Many redhead women are hot.

Now that's racist

Leave it to you righties to be so sensitive when you have been calling the guy names that smack of racism for the years he has been in office.

Maybe riding in the back would give you guys a better perspective on what its like to not have control for a while. Then you could chill and look out the window and enjoy the ride.

Just saying.

I don't understand all the sensitivity around race on either side. I think it gets to such an extreme that, in an effort to not be racist, we become so aware of race....that it actually makes us racist!

Power to the freckled people!

The sensitivity on the left is political bullsh*t, I'm just damn tired of being called a racist.

Leave it to you righties to be so sensitive when you have been calling the guy names that smack of racism for the years he has been in office.

Must be some of those code words only liberals can decipher. Feel free to justify your asinine remark any time.


Maybe riding in the back would give you guys a better perspective on what its like to not have control for a while. Then you could chill and look out the window and enjoy the ride.

Dude, I don't ride with anyone that leads from behind. I want the driver out front.

The sensitivity on the left is political bullsh*t, I'm just damn tired of being called a racist.
Both sides are sensitive about it. Racism exists everywhere and every walk of life. People are even racist amongst their own race. Nothing new.

Many redhead women are hot.

Now that was sexist, women are not objects and this is just further proof that it isn't us waging a war on women. Stay on topic please.

Dude, I don't ride with anyone that leads from behind. I want the driver out front.Just like the blacks used to have! I guess Rosa was wrong.

Leave it to you righties to be so sensitive when you have been calling the guy names that smack of racism for the years he has been in office.

Maybe riding in the back would give you guys a better perspective on what its like to not have control for a while. Then you could chill and look out the window and enjoy the ride.

Just saying.

Well Odumbos first two yeasrs in office the lefties had complete control and what did they do with it? Except drive the bus off the cliff and have a spending spree the likes of which the world has never seen... all on lefty programs that have helped nobody in the country but other lefties with connections.

Really odd coming from someone in a party that did nothing but call George Bush names for 8 years... and repeatedly accused him of things he never did, and even tried to set him up with forged "evidence" that was proven to be false... Remember Rathergate?

Really strange this selective and severe amnesia the entire democrat party is suffering from these days.

Really odd as well that they have not seen a single one of the offensive and false advertisements Obama repeated offends the thinking portion of the public with on TV and radio...

Has Obama ever started to accept the blame for making EVERYTHING worse since he took office? No... he still blames Bush. I seriously think Obama is suffering from a mental disease.

Both sides are sensitive about it. Racism exists everywhere and every walk of life. People are even racist amongst their own race. Nothing new.

I'm not sensitive about race, I'm tired of being called a racist. It's not true, it's not true about the majority of conservatives, it's a damn lie perpetuated by the left and I'm fed up with it.

Just like the blacks used to have! I guess Rosa was wrong.

Do you ever have anything useful to add. Or is your sole joy in life being irrelevant?

Do you ever have anything useful to add. or is your sole joy in life being irrelevant?Did you want to talk about your baseball or football pools instead?? :D
I see how sensitive you are, I'll make a note of that.

Look at them making the case we have always claimed about the left having a double standard...

They feel they can do no worng... and we can do no right... and even if we do the same thing they do.. they still cry about it.

THe left has a double standard about everything... and the above posts prove it in their own words.

Well Odumbos first two yeasrs in office the lefties had complete control and what did they do with it? Except drive the bus off the cliff and have a spending spree the likes of which the world has never seen...all on lefty programs that have helped nobody in the country but other lefties with connections.

Really odd coming from someone in a party that did nothing but call George Bush names for 8 years...and repeatedly accused him of things he never did, and even tried to set him up with forged "evidence" that was proven to be false....Remember Rathergate?

Really strange this selective and severe amnesia the entire democrat party is suffering from these days.

Really odd as well that they have not seen a single one of the offensive and false advertisements Obama repeated offends the thinking portion of the public with on TV and radio.....

Has Obama ever started to accept the blame for making EVERYTHING worse since he took office? No...he still blames Bush. I seriously think Obama is suffering from a mental disease.

Rather broad complaint given the number of filibusters the republicans have used since day one one important issues, and the agenda that says NO to everything. That's was decided at the beginning by the Senate minority leader Mitch McConnel, but we will just overlook that and believe all the crapyou guys have put out there.

He isn't the only one who still blames Bush, most people do, except YOU guys. I mean did you really think 2 or 3 years would make up for the 8 years Bush was in charge?

Talk about short memories.

Look at them making the case we have always claimed about the left having a double standard.....

They feel they can do no worng....and we can do no right....and even if we do the same exact thing they do..they still cry about it.

THe left has a double standard about everything......and the above posts prove it in their own words.
150,000,000 people in the US are like that? They must be on to something.

Well Odumbos ...


Really odd coming from someone in a party that did nothing but call George Bush names for 8 years

I'm sure the irony is lost on him but it was worth noting. LOL.

I'm sure the irony is lost on him but it was worth noting. LOL.


HA HA! Funny.

150,000,000 people in the US are like that? They must be on to something.

Were do you get that number from, your Butt? There are nowhere near that many people that consider themselves democrat, much less liberal in the USA..

There are roughly 350,000,000 people IN the USA. Discount the numbers who are minors and the Illegals who don't have a vote... take away the Conservatives and the Independents and you are lucky to have 10% of that number.

HA HA! Funny.

NeedKarma doesn't understand Irony, or much else for that matter... they don't even live in the USA... so its absurd they consider themselves such authorities on the topic.

I'm sure the irony is lost on him but it was worth noting. LOL.

Know what..

Unlike YOU... we earned the right to call him that since ODUMBO... seems to think Gearge Bush is still in office, since he blames him for everything.

Unlike YOU... in Canada... we have to live with the consequences of a rank amateur lightweight who clearly has a poor grasp of anything every day.

Unlike YOU... I don't think the man is more than a mental midget based on his own disaterous choices he has made time and time again that have resulted in RECORD unemployment here... unsurpassed even by Jimmy Carter and the mess he was responsible for.

Unlike YOU... I don't think Obama is the Meessiah who can say and do no wrong...

And Unlike YOU, I don't fall for left wing propaganda when abundent proof to the contrary is every place you look.

Know what....?

Unlike YOU.....we earned the right to call him that since ODUMBO...seems to think Gearge Bush is still in office, since he blames him for everything.

Unlike YOU.... in Canada...we have to live with the consequences of a rank amateur lightweight who clearly has a poor grasp of anything every day.

Unlike YOU.....I don't think the man is more than a mental midget based on his own disaterous choices he has made time and time again that have resulted in RECORD unemployment here....unsurpassed even by Jimmy Carter and the mess he was responsible for.

Unlike YOU.... I don't think Obama is the Meessiah who can say and do no wrong....

and Unlike YOU, I don't fall for left wing propaganda when abundent proof to the contrary is every place you look.
Wow, I believe all that stuff? Cool and yet odd since we've never met and you keep calling Obama a messiah.

Look at them making the case we have always claimed about the left having a double standard.....

They feel they can do no worng....and we can do no right....and even if we do the same exact thing they do..they still cry about it.

THe left has a double standard about everything......and the above posts prove it in their own words.

I believe I stated it exists on both sides. Racisim is everywhere. I don't know anyone in my walk of life that refers to democrats or republicans as racist. There are some racist democrats and some racists republicans. What of it? There are ignorant people that align themselves on both sides of the argument. Just like it isn't just white people that are racists. Racism is just a form of fear. Fear of someone that looks different than you and therefore must be a threat. Just one of the many forms of prejudice that exist everywhere.
So, I don't know why this thread is filled with sobbing crys "They think we're racists and I'm tired of it...boo hoo!" Racists are on BOTH sides... get over it. Everyone will be called a racist if you ask enough people.

I've been accused of being racist because I had to fire an employee of a different race than me for attendance issues. I don't get all upset over it. I'm not a democrat or a republican, I am a libertarian who ends up voting democrat each election. This is simply because he is usually the less retarded option and doesn't come with the religious extreme baggage.

PS. I am prejudice against guys in skinny jeans escpecially if they sag their skinny jeans... or the justin bieber hair cut. But still, prejudice I tell you!

NeedKarma doesn't understand Irony, or much else for that matter....they don't even live in the USA....so its absurd they consider themselves such authorities on the topic.
Yes I see, since we don't live in the USA we can't understand irony - gotcha.
We wish you a great day!

Well since I work in the middle of a lot of this stuff, and see it unfiltered, and you only see it on TV, with no other way to judge its accuracy... woe be it for me to question what I actually see if some talking head tells you differently on TV.

Know what....?

Unlike YOU.....we earned the right to call him that since ODUMBO...seems to think Gearge Bush is still in office, since he blames him for everything.

Unlike YOU.... in Canada...we have to live with the consequences of a rank amateur lightweight who clearly has a poor grasp of anything.

Oh come on. You're just upset because he busted you guys on your hypocrisy. You're name calling the same as lefties did to Bush. You're no better in that department. And the fact that you are trying to justify it makes it even sadder.

Based on what you are saying here, perhaps our government should model Canada's? Sounds like its so great up there that they couldn't possible understand our issues. Right! Ha.

And by disastrous mistakes... you mean something besides invading the wrong country after 911and justfying it with the search for Santa Clause WMDs? Doh!

Did you want to talk about your baseball or football pools instead?? :D

I don't talk to you about sports.


I see how sensitive you are, I'll make a note of that.

Awww, give yourself a pat on the back for being so clever.

Back to the OP. Do you have anything useful to say on the topic?

Well since I work in the middle of a lot of this stuff, and see it unfiltered, and you only see it on TV, with no other way to judge its accuracy.....woe be it for me to question what I actually see if some talking head tells you differently on tv.I don't watch american news. Our education includes american history as I'm sure yours include canadian history. There is no "unfiltered" version that you have access to. That's kind of funny actually considering how incredibly partisan your posts are.

I don't talk to you about sports.



Awww, give yourself a pat on the back for being so clever.

Back to the OP. Do you have anything useful to say on the topic?

Do you?

(we could do this all day!)

Do you?

(we could do this all day!)

If you like wasting your time on puerile games knock yourself out.

Roger that.

Oh come on. You're just upset because he busted you guys on your hypocrisy. Your name calling the same as lefties did to Bush. You're no better in that department. And the fact that you are trying to justify it makes it even sadder.

Based on what you are saying here, perhaps our government should model Canada's? Sounds like its so great up there that they could possible understand our issues. Right! Ha.

And by disasterous mistakes...you mean something besides invading the wrong country after 911and justfying it with the search for Santa Claus WMDs? Doh!



Cripes... OBAMA hasn't done ANYTHING right since the day he took office...

No.. Canadas government is almost a joke (not as bad as Italy's which is a joke)... and far from perfect.

Incidentally... I do have a business in making thoise statements because I wasn't born yesterday... and I've had to live with DECADES of the left wing lies they spread on people that are basically clueless about reality. Because their only source of information is from the propaganda the left has spread. Few of them have actually seen any events themselves much less a lot of them.

Incidentally in the course of the last 30 years... I've seen and been part of MANY things I am not under liberty to discuss in detail in person... much less on a site like this.

Some major events that have been completely misrepresented and some that have been covered up...

And know what... it was a shock to me when I first started to see this first hand and I've seen so much over the last 3 dacades is flat out disgusts me these days.


So I AM in a position to make these statements...

Is it unique to the USA... nope, not at all, its actually worse in other countries. Yes I have lived and worked abroad for significant periods. And yes I still do travel and spend significant time overseas... enough I have property and interests in more than one country as well as retain the ability to work in the EU as well as the USA.

You should write a book!

Pandering shamelessly for the racist vote doesn't make you a racist, just an opportunistic exploiter of fears. Nixons own southern strategy was the basis to this type of electioneering.

Pandering shamelessly for the racist vote doesn't make you a racist, just an opportunistic exploiter of fears. Nixons own southern strategy was the basis to this type of electioneering.

I take you mean the GOP based on these mysterious code words popping up everywhere.

??

Grow up, enough of this racist bullsh*t.

You cannot talk about racism if you don't acknowledge its existence.

You should write a book!

I could.. if I was so inclined... but there are such things as non-disclosure agreements without experation dates.

Totally besides the point I have ZERO desire to write a book. I just don't enjoy doing that sort of thing.

You cannot talk about racism if you don't acknowledge its existance.

Oh it does exist... its that it exists MOST in areas that are not politically correct to acknowledge... like in the Black community where Hispanics are hated as well as are Asians... and even whites.

The torch bearers among rascists aren't White these days. Most often they are anything BUT white.

The torch bearers amoung rascists aren't White these days. Most often they are anything BUT white.Because the white race is dominant?

The National Memo The Republican Convention Has A Serious Race Problem (http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-republican-convention-has-a-serious-race-problem/?utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=website)


Although the RNC does not keep exact demographic statistics, The Grio reports that various counts show between 28 and 47 black delegates at this year's convention, out of 2,286 total. That's less than 2 percent.

That lack of diversity is also reflected in polls of the presidential race. Mitt Romney, who quickly identified immigration as an issue where he could veer to the right of his opponents in the Republican primary, now trails President Obama among Latino voters by a 39 point margin. His standing among African-Americans is exponentially worse; according to one recent poll, black voters favor President Obama over Romney by a 94 to zero percent margin. Yes, a major party candidate for president of the United States is polling at zero percent among African-Americans.

Rather than reach out to minority communities, however, Romney and the Republicans seem intent on belittling them. Much of the 2012 convention has been devoted to widely debunked lies that President Obama has eliminated the work requirement from welfare, and that he's robbing Medicare to pay for the Affordable Care Act (which right wingers consider to be the ultimate government handout.) The message could not be more clear: Obama is giving your hard earned money to indolent, dependent blacks.

Just saying what we all are just saying.

You cannot talk about racism if you don't acknowledge its existance.

I'm really tired of that cliché, too. It's just another one of those things you guys on the left do to try and end the discussion without giving any real answers.

Virtually everyone acknowledges the existence of racism. We cannot get past racism if you keep injecting racism where it doesn't exist.

Acknowledge that.

P.S. And as for your silly memo up there, a perfect example of what I just said, injecting racism where it doesn't exist.

Because the white race is dominant?

No... because racism is alive and well among every other race too ( and even more common there)... its not hard to see... its not something only whites do... contrary to what the left tries to portray.

People from Spain look down on hispanics, hispanics look down on native americans.. and other hispanic groups, Asians do the same thing, Blacks do too, African=americans look down on real Africans... dark skined blacks are looked down upon by light skinned blacks... etc... etc... etc...

I don't know if Inuits share in this trait or not.

I have never heard a Dem defend workfare . It took some serious arm twisting to get Clintoon to pass it in the 1st place and we know that the President(who has publicly spoken against workfare in the past ) will do what he can to weaken it's provisions . I expect an EO ending it in his 2nd term or some decision by Sebellius that guts the major provisions..

How's this, can you guys hearing the dog whistles just tell us up front what all these code words are at once instead of adding to the list as it suits you?

I already have "golf", "welfare", “holding down the fort”, "state's rights", “entitlement society”, "food stamps", "founding fathers", “old-fashioned American values” and the latest, "Chicago."

What else sets off your magic decoder rings?

I think it's a result of years of drug use... obvious paranoid delusions. Voices in their heads... the wallpaper speaking to them, and their toaster discussing philosephy.

How's this, can you guys hearing the dog whistles just tell us up front what all these code words are at once instead of adding to the list as it suits you?

I already have "golf", "welfare", “holding down the fort”, "state's rights", “entitlement society”, "food stamps", "founding fathers", “old-fashioned American values” and the latest, "Chicago."

What else sets off your magic decoder rings?

What does all this mean? What are code words? And how does it relate to racism?

I think its great when people are passionate about their views. But it scary when a person has drank the Kool Aid to the point that they can't see that all this stuff happens in BOTH parties.

Racism in America: Today Futile Democracy (http://futiledemocracy.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/racism-in-america-today/)


Now I wouldn't immediately jump to the conclusion that the Tea Party is an inherently racist organisation, it is mainly a vehicle to promote the incoherent ramblings of an uneducated economically far right puritanical Republican group wholly run by Corporate America to advance its interest at the behest of even the idiots who indirectly fight for the rights of Corporate America, now slowly morphed to include racism as part of their base.

Not saying it doesn't exist on both sides, but clearly is used to further a more hidden agenda. But why else would my right wing brothers justify the lies that Romney is pushing? All these freaking threads we have discussed, and none of them has bothered to read the freaking website their candidate presents or question any of it.

That's my point.

What does all this mean? What are code words? And how does it relate to racism?

I think its great when people are passionate about their views. But it scary when a person has drank the kool aid to the point that they can't see that all this stuff happens in BOTH parties.

What does it all mean? It means the left interprets those words as racist code any time a conservative/Republican/Tea Partier uses such. It's a total figment of their imagination - they work overtime to find racism where it doesn't exist to have an excuse to demonize us, pat themselves on the back and glow in their self-righteousness.

Racism in America: Today Futile Democracy (http://futiledemocracy.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/racism-in-america-today/)

This person is completely out of touch with reality.


Not saying it doesn't exist on both sides, but clearly is used to further a more hidden agenda. But why else would my right wing brothers justify the lies that Romney is pushing? All these freaking threads we have discussed, and none of them has bothered to read the freaking website their candidate presents or question any of it.

That's my point.

No one argues here from the lack of evidence better than you, Tal. Your point is pointless.

What does it all mean? It means the left interprets those words as racist code any time a conservative/Republican/Tea Partier uses such. It's a total figment of their imagination - they work overtime to find racism where it doesn't exist to have an excuse to demonize us, pat themselves on the back and glow in their self-righteousness.

Haha. You are completely over the top. Perhaps, the democratic party is also secretly ran by aliens. I have never heard of this code word business. You sound very paranoid. I recommend wearing a foil hat.

No one argues here from the lack of evidence better than you, Tal. Your point is pointless.His point isn't pointless, as I understand it he'd rather discuss facts from the Romney/Ryan plan instead of having constant issues based on stirring up emotions dominate the discussion.

Haha. You are completely over the top.

Over the top? Bwa ha ha, I can back every one of those up.

"golf (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2012/08/29/cant-make-now-joking-about-obamas-love-golf-racist-msnbc)"
"welfare (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9024268/US-Election-2012-Jimmy-Carter-says-Newt-Gingrich-uses-subtlety-of-racism.html)"
“holding down the fort (http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/30/new-frontiers-in-hypersensitvity-state-department-officer-says-holding-down-the-fort-is-racist/)”
"state's rights (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history_lesson/2007/11/dogwhistling_dixie.html)"
“entitlement society (http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/juan-williams/207295-2012-racial-code-words-obscure-real-issue)”
"food stamps (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rep-sheila-jackson-lee-gingrich-is-using-racial-code-words/)"
"founding fathers (http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/juan-williams/207295-2012-racial-code-words-obscure-real-issue)"
“old-fashioned American values (http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/juan-williams/207295-2012-racial-code-words-obscure-real-issue)”
"Chicago (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rusty-weiss/2012/08/30/chris-matthews-and-msnbc-now-claim-word-chicago-racist)"


Perhaps, the democratic party is also secretly ran by aliens. I have never heard of this code word business. You sound very paranoid. I recommend wearing a foil hat.

Odd, but since I just see people, and not their color I should wear a tin foil hat? You should learn quickly Magpie that I don't say much that I can't back up. Give the tinfoil hats to those idiots up there hearing dog whistles.

His point isn't pointless, as I understand it he'd rather discuss facts from the Romney/Ryan plan instead of having constant issues based on stirring up emotions dominate the discussion.

And you'd rather defend the straw man which is all his post was. No surprise, you're an expert at building straw men.

And you'd rather defend the straw man which is all his post was. No surprise, you're an expert at building straw men.

I honestly have no idea what that means. I thought my post was quite straightforward.

I honestly have no idea what that means. I thought my post was quite straightforward.

His post was a straw man, you defended it. What's not to understand?

Dog whistle, that's the one only dogs can hear, so if someone heard a dog whistle it is time to think about your circumstance

Do you have to be a newt to hear a dog whistle

Code words, buses, straw men, and tinfoil hats?

HAHAHA I don't even think you guys know what you're arguing about.

Code words, buses, straw men, and tinfoil hats?

HAHAHA I don't even think you guys know what you're arguing about.

You're right. I got lost a couple of pages ago. I don't know what's going on but apparently speechlesstx gets called a racist a lot.

Its those snarky tea party remarks about what the government should be doing for him and his church and not for people that gets him sounding like one. I mean how do you support corporate welfare for the rich, but deny it for the poor?

Its those snarky tea party remarks about what the government should be doing for him and his church and not for people that gets him sounding like one. I mean how do you support corporate welfare for the rich, but deny it for the poor?

Wow. I vote for you! Seriously, the tea party doesn't represent the majority.

Speeclesstx, I don't believe I have ever met you... What exactly is it that you have a problem or question about? Are YOU a republican? If not, then are YOU racist? If not, then who cares! Republican or democrat... we are ALL racist to some degree!

I mean how do you support corporate welfare for the rich, but deny it for the poor?

It's easy tal, the poor don't own corporations. Remember it is the Republican position that corporations are people

Republican or democrat...we are ALL racist to some degree!

Do you have something to back this statement up? I don't believe it for a minute that everyone is racist. I do believe the democratic party has some of the most racist people that exist. They have proven it ever since they lost their fight against continuing slavery.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism

I do believe the democratic party has some of the most racist people that exist. They have proven it ever since they lost thier fight against continuing slavery.What are you smoking?? LOL

What are you smoking??? LOL

When you look at what the democrat party has done and how they regard so many people as beneath them they fit the definition. It speaks for itself.

So Republicans just hate black people, is that it?




www.wiki.org/wiki/Loaded_question

When you look at what the democrat party has done and how they regaurd so many people as beneath them they fit the definition. It speaks for itself.
Not a single person wants a return to slavery days. But if the above is your staunch worldview then no one can change that I guess. Good luck.

Do you have something to back this statement up? I dont believe it for a minute that everyone is racist. I do believe the democratic party has some of the most racist people that exist. They have proven it ever since they lost thier fight against continuing slavery.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism

To a certain degree I said. WE have all done it at one point or another.

Not a single person wants a return to slavery days. But if the above is your staunch worldview then no one can change that I guess. Good luck.

When Im talking about party politics Im addressing those in my own country. World views are much different then those here at home.

When Im talking about party politics Im addressing those in my own country. World views are much different then those here at home.
So you truly think that democrats want to have white people own black slaves? You might want to do some of that internet research.

So you truly think that democrats want to have white people own black slaves? You might want to do some of that internet research.

I believe that as the democrats display on a daily basis they think everyone is beneath them. Just look at how they truly act.

I believe that as the democrats display on a daily basis they think everyone is beneath them. Just look at how they truely act.

What else should you expect from people who believe their leader is from heaven? Check out the August image...

http://mobile.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/09/02/dnc_2012_still_kitschin_.html

Wow, a guy made his own calendar and apparently that means all democrats are like this. :eye roll:

Wow, a guy made his own calendar and apparently that means all democrats are like this. :eye roll:

No sir, but it's even creepier than your obsession with me.

I believe that as the democrats display on a daily basis they think everyone is beneath them. Just look at how they truely act.

Links please? How do they truly act?

Don't worry, Tal, it's the pot calling the kettle black, what do you think are the republican chances of electing a negro president?

I believe that as the democrats display on a daily basis they think everyone is beneath them. Just look at how they truely act.

And this goes back to what I said in my original post. You just proved my point. Thanks Dad!

No sir.

So why did you post it?

so why did you post it?

Why do you stalk me?

Why do you stalk me?Why do you think that someone replying to your posts is stalking? I replied to calif as well, am I stalking him too? I replied to a post by tom on another thread, am I stalking him as well? There are a whole bunch of people replying to other people in dozens of threads, is that stalking too?

Why do you think that someone replying to your posts is stalking? I replied to calif as well, am I stalking him too? I replied to a post by tom on another thread, am I stalking him as well? There are a whole bunch of people replying to other people in dozens of threads, is that stalking too?

Dude, you do have an obsession with me and it's weird.

Don't worry, Tal, it's the pot calling the kettle black, what do you think are the republican chances of electing a negro president?

You should know by now there are no authentic black Republicans but my question is why should it matter? I thought the whole point of racial harmony was making skin color irrelevant.

what do you think are the republican chances of electing a negro president?
What do you think the chances are of the Dems voting for a Republican black candidate ?

What do you think the chances are of the Dems voting for a Republican black candidate ?

Ridiculous question Tom totally avoiding the issue that the republicans are racist, I didn't think you could step up to the plate. The idea behind your party system is that you vote for your own candidate and hope to pick up some swinging voters on the way. There is no hope a republican would vote for a democrat black candidate, just like there was no way they would vote for a hispanic

ridiculous question Tom totally avoiding the issue that the republicans are racist, I didn't think you could step up to the plate. The idea behind your party system is that you vote for your own candidate and hope to pick up some swinging voters on the way. There is no hope a republican would vote for a democrat black candidate, just like there was no way they would vote for a hispanic
What is ridiculous is your assumptions and premise.

rediculous question Tom totally avoiding the issue that the republicans are racist, I didn't think you could step up to the plate. the idea behind your party system is that you vote for your own candidate and hope to pick up some swinging voters on the way. there is no hope a republican would vote for a democrat black candidate, just like there was no way they would vote for a hispanic

Why should a Republican vote for a democrat of any color?

I think someone is forgetting Herman Kaine and how abusively he was treated by the left... and how none of these so-called victims ever filed suit and have dissappeard back under the rocks they crawled out from under.

They hated him because he was everything Obama wasn't and could never even hope to be. A smart Republican Black man that had a clue and actually had a public record of success.

I think someone is forgetting Herman Kaine and how abusively he was treated by the left..


On November 28, 2011, Cain asserted that a woman named Ginger White would be claiming to have had an affair with him, and that the allegation was not true.[86] An interview with White was aired an hour later on Fox 5 in Atlanta. In the interview, White said the affair lasted 13 years and ended right before Cain announced his presidential campaign.Nice that Fox News aired that for him. Fox is a well known lefty propaganda outlet as we all know.

Nice that Fox News aired that for him. Fox is a well known lefty propaganda outlet as we all know.

Typical... Canadian repsonse. Ignores all the other inconvienient facts. Like all the so called accusers, most of whom were never publicly identified.. all of whom still crawled back unde rtheir rocks.

Kind of like the Canadian Prime Minister that paid out of pocket to get heart surgery in the USA, rather than get it in Canda under their "wonderful" system for free. I quess he wasn't willing to wait the needed 6.5 years. But they still think its perfect despite the droves of Candaians coming south for treatment and paying out of pocket to do it.

Besides... what real Leftist ever let things like facts get in the way of their agenda.

What does being canadian have to do with anything?
I was just showing that it wasn't just lefties that skewered him.
And what facts did I ignore? You didn't post any, it was just a rant.

What does being canadian have to do with anything?
I was just showing that it wasn't just lefties that skewered him.
And what facts did I ignore? You didn't post any, it was just a rant.

Typical slight of hand. They are just changing the subject. You make a valid point, and they point out something about Canada that has nothing to do with racism even.. they switched to healthcare. Perhaps, they are racist against Canadians! Blame Canada!

Typical slight of hand. They are just changing the subject. You make a valid point, and they point out something about Canada that has nothing to do with racism even..they switched to healthcare. Perhaps, they are racist against Canadians! Blame Canada!

It has everything to do with it... its a typical Liberal tactic... and its one Needkarma uses every day.

Typical slight of hand. They are just changing the subject. You make a valid point, and they point out something about Canada that has nothing to do with racism even..they switched to healthcare. Perhaps, they are racist against Canadians! Blame Canada!

Not defending Smoothy's post but seriously, NK is the king of "sleight of hand" here. There's no post too relevant for him to avoid spoiling.

It has everything to do with it...its a typical Liberal tactic.....and its one Needkarma uses every day.


Not defending Smoothy's post but seriously, NK is the king of "sleight of hand" here. There's no post too relevant for him to avoid spoiling.

You guys are pretty good yourself at spoiling factual discussions with distractions and assertions when there is a conflict of ideas.

Take a bow, and give yourself a hand!

Well, I don't know him personally. However, I have not yet witnessed a slight of hand. As far as this whole topic, the idea that either party has a racial agenda reminds me of the things I've read about the "red scare". It's paranoid and ridiculous. The fact is, yes there are black people that have felt disenchanted by the democrats. There are white people who have felt that from the republicans. No one gets passed the issues, and where you stand on the issues is personal. It isn't handed to you at birth because of your skin, race, religion, etc. Everyone gets to decide for themselves. It is no doubt, like any political party, that the republicans would like more of the minority vote. That's their job, to appeal to as many Americans as possible. The republican party has just failed in it's efforts to reach a large majority of black people. Why? Who knows. There are political analyst far more skilled at figuring that out. Just like democrats have neglected unions. We have, as a nation, kept racism alive by simply keeping up the finger pointing. I still experience prejudice at work from being a woman! And it is 2012! I don't go around accusing a whole party of people of being sexist. When we as a nation decide that we are over it, there won't be any racism. We have to be able to put it down and move on. Or as was stated at the RNC, grow up.

We all have our love and hates, but when your hate is directed at someone and you ACT on it because of race, that's the definition of racism.

It stops when the actions stop.

We all have our love and hates, but when your hate is directed at someone and you ACT on it because of race, thats the definition of racism.

It stops when the actions stop.

I agree. However, we aren't going to get very far if one party (republicans) are crying "but..but..but...everyone thinks were racists! Wahhh!" But then turning around and saying "that's because the other party is really the racists. They just use code words to hide it...boo hoo." Its like I'm rubber your glue.. etc. I just don't buy it. They aren't getting the black vote or the latino vote... so they say the other side is the true racist. People vote on issue. The majority of the public cares about the issues that matter to them. The fact that they are being reduced to their skin color because of the party they vote for is racist. You don't see democrats crying that everyone thinks they hate white men... boohoo. Equal nonsense. So, if we could quit making the issues about race.. and address the issues, perhaps, that could be a start.

You guys are pretty good yourself at spoiling factual discussions with distractions and assertions when their is a conflict of ideas.

Take a bow, and give yourself a hand!


Hi Tal,

As I said before there is no factual discussion if we are considering the original question.

The original question is a loaded question so no response can satisfy the presuppositions that go along with it.

No response by you or myself- or anyone else for that matter will be satisfactory.

Tut

The original question isn't a question, its an invitation based on the statement that follows, is the way I took it.

So Republicans just hate black people, is that it?

Maybe it's a loaded question, I don't know, but somebody has to answer it. Or discuss it.

In order to answer such a question you have to find the premise behind it

We'll try this one in simple logic

Obama is a black man, republicans oppose Obama, therefore republicans oppose blacks, it's a short hop from oppose to hate

Many black people are poor, republicans oppose programs which support the poor, therefore
Republicans hate black people'

The reality is republican platforms have a definite impact on the poor and therefore a disproportinate impact on minorities which includes the black community. You do need an affirmative action program to have blacks participate in unemployment, in relief, in welfare. By showing that their programs don't take these impacts into account republicans can be accused of hate

..its a typical Liberal tactic.....and its one Needkarma uses every day.
What tactic is that?

In order to answer such a question you have to find the premise behind it

We'll try this one in simple logic

Obama is a black man, republicans oppose Obama, therefore republicans oppose blacks, its a short hop from oppose to hate

Many black people are poor, republicans oppose programs which support the poor, therefore
republicans hate black people'

The reality is republican platforms have a definate impact on the poor and therefore a disproportinate impact on minorities which includes the black community. You do need an affirmative action program to have blacks participate in unemployment, in relief, in welfare. By showing that their programs don't take these impacts into account republicans can be accuse of hate

Fairly good interpretation. But of course it's as much BS as what led to this thread, which I covered early on. And that would be these alleged dog whistles like "welfare" and Chicago."

Speech we are all guilty of B/S on this Board, but behind the B/S is an element of truth.

You have to get it, people think in simple straight lines, if you are not for me you are against me, there is no waivering in the wind here. Tom wants a flat rate tax, why because he will pay less but more important all those who don't earn enough to pay tax will then have to contribute. Allright make the process transparent, increase welfare by the amount of the tax and tax the poor but at the same time do away with all incentives and tax havens the rich enjoy. You see you have some sort of positive racism in play cleaverly disguised as a tax system

Let's say 25% flat tax that everyone has to pay, no deductions, that should be a very popular measure. The Republicans should vote for it in droves. I think someone had an idea like that over there, the alternative minimum or something like that, what happened to it?

Tom wants a flat rate tax, why because he will pay less but more important all those who don't earn enough to pay tax will then have to contribute.
Wrong again . Tom wants a flat rate to end the deductions and exemptions ;to eliminate a whole bunch of IRS and tax accountant jobs .The IRS is a massive bureaucracy costing the taxpayers $12 billion each year. The IRS employs more people than the FBI and CIA combined.Most of that could be eliminated from the budget under a flat tax. It will reduce compliance costs(nationwide estimated to be $338 billion on top of the tax bill ) .
The special interests(all of them ) hate the flat tax because it means no loopholes, no shelters, and no special preferences. All income is treated equally.

It will also mean increased economic growth and job creation.

What I don't get is people who advocate taxing to discourage economic activity like purchasing tobacco products ,and don't see why the same principle applies to the rest of the economy .

I think someone had an idea like that over there, the alternative minimum or something like that, what happened to it?
It is a disaster because it was never indexed to inflation. More and more "middle class" taxpayers are getting wacked by it .
The tax code is a disgrace . Both Republics and Dems have been swapping loopholes for campaign cash ,and using it as a social engineering tool ;instead of it's only function ,to pay for the operation of the government, since the income tax was imposed in 1913.

speech we are all guilty of B/S on this Board, but behind the B/S is an element of truth.

So because Republicans think people should be treated equally we're the racists. Gotcha.

So because Republicans think people should be treated equally we're the racists. Gotcha.

Sarcastic, passive-agressive language makes you seem defensive and sensitive. I didn't get that from paraclete's point at all. The statement to me read that everyone has some B/S and there is a little truth behind it. There was nothing pointed at republicans specifically, just everyone on this site. Sounded pretty even and all inclusive to me. Don't be so wounded.

Sarcastic, passive-agressive language makes you seem defensive and sensitive. I didn't get that from paraclete's point at all. The statement to me read that everyone has some B/S and there is a little truth behind it. There was nothing pointed at republicans specifically, just everyone on this site. Sounded pretty even and all inclusive to me. Don't be so wounded.

Sarcastic yes, but the rest of that sentence is utter nonsense. The only thing you omitted from that screed commonly uttered by condscending liberals on blogs everywhere, was telling me I'm "projecting."

Please, don't bother with the diagnoses. You really aren't very good at it and I know what I'm doing and where I'm going with my responses. You don't.

So everybody else is full of BS except you? Or just conservatives? Or just the Tea party?

So everybody else is full of BS except you? Or just conservatives? Or just the Tea party?

I never implied anything close to that. Clete's answer and the faux outrage over mythical racist code words definitely qualify.

Sarcastic yes, but the rest of that sentence is utter nonsense. The only thing you omitted from that screed commonly uttered by condscending liberals on blogs everywhere, was telling me I'm "projecting."

Please, don't bother with the diagnoses. You really aren't very good at it and I know what I'm doing and where I'm going with my responses. You don't.

That was my point, I don't know where you are going with your responses. Isn't part of expressing your opinion, getting others to understand your point of view?
Here you go again, just dismissing it with some line about the usual liberal.. blah blah.
That is exactly the type of response given when you have nothing real to say.
That being said, I am not a "liberal" or a racist for that matter. So, whatever point you are trying to make is lost on me. But then, you seem very straight-lined when it comes to party behavior. Things aren't so black in white. (Hey, that's a pun! Ha.)

What tactic is that?

Give it some thought... it will come to you.

LOL, being from Texas, the southwest you should know all the code words of the racists. Maybe you are younger than I thought or live in isolation, but trust me, not only do they exist but are still prevalent.

Ever visit Mississippi, or Alabama? You cannot just dismiss the experiences of others because you don't see it. But I believe in people and think the are better than there hates and prejudices, but racism is a much used tool for elections from Nixon's southern strategy, to Reagan's welfare queens in pink cadillacs to Willie Horten by the first Bush.

Yes there are code words and dog whistles in 2012 whether you care to believe it or not!

Give it some thought...it will come to you.
Go ahead, explain it to us.

How's this, can you guys hearing the dog whistles just tell us up front what all these code words are at once instead of adding to the list as it suits you?

I already have "golf", "welfare", “holding down the fort”, "state's rights", “entitlement society”, "food stamps", "founding fathers", “old-fashioned American values” and the latest, "Chicago."

What else sets off your magic decoder rings?

I don't know why it is so hard to understand . Every one of the words/phrases has been linked by Dems or their flunkies at MSNBC to racism branding every Conservate /Republic/Tea Party member .

Maybe it is deflection .After all yesterday (before they made their stunning reversal today on the Convention floor for the sake salvaging their relation with their Jewish and "bitter clinger "constituency),we learned that the progressive Democrats are anti-semitic atheists .
Or maybe they are deflecting their own inherent racism .After all ;they got a clown they consider an icon speaking in prime time tonight who only 4 years ago said to Teddy Kennedy that in the good ole days " Obama would be carrying our bags " . They have VP who said "You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.... I'm not joking."

Doing a little head shaking there Tom

That was my point, I don't know where you are going with your responses.

It's quite simple, I wanted clete's reaction before proceeding. It's a thread, it typically continues and being my thread I feel quite comfortable getting there how I want to get there.


Isn't part of expressing your opinion, getting others to understand your point of view?

I have my methods.


Here you go again, just dismissing it with some line about the usual liberal.. blah blah.That is exactly the type of response given when you have nothing real to say.

As opposed to offering a psychological diagnosis of someone you know nothing about? I was on subject with clete and liberals do as exactly as I said on liberal blogs.


That being said, I am not a "liberal" or a racist for that matter.

Ok, I didn't say you were - I pointed out a fact.


So, whatever point you are trying to make is lost on me. But then, you seem very straight-lined when it comes to party behavior. Things aren't so black in white. (Hey, that's a pun! Ha.)

As I said, you know nothing about me... and it's obvious. You are as wrong about me as all those libs and media types are about Republicans being racist. And that's my point.

LOL, being from Texas, the southwest you should know all the code words of the racists. Maybe you are younger than I thought or live in isolation, but trust me, not only do they exist but are still prevalent.

Ever visit Mississippi, or Alabama? You cannot just dismiss the experiences of others because you don't see it. But I believe in people and think the are better than there hates and prejudices, but racism is a much used tool for elections from Nixon's southern strategy, to Reagan's welfare queens in pink cadillacs to Willie Horten by the first Bush.

Yes there are code words and dog whistles in 2012 whether you care to believe it or not!

Dude, I live in a Hispanic neighborhood, I am the minority. Amarillo is anything but isolated and we're quite diverse. No one said racism doesn't exist but we've had that talk, you use that straw man repeatedly and buy into this dog whistle crap to avoid a real discussion and perpetuate the problem. You don't want solve racism.

..its a typical Liberal tactic.....and its one Needkarma uses every day.


Go ahead, explain it to us.

Still waiting. I see you're busy on the site answering questions about women pregnancies, surely you can answer this one.

It's quite simple, I wanted clete's reaction before proceeding. It's a thread, it typically continues and being my thread I feel quite comfortable getting there how I want to get there.




I would agree with that.

The way you have worded the question you can't lose.


Tut

Still waiting. I see you're busy on the site answering questions about women pregnancies, surely you can answer this one.
He's purposely avoiding answering. Not surprising.

You can't solve racism Speech all you can do is build tolerance. As a fellow I knew once said, the longer you are with him the whiter he becomes, so time takes away the problem. I can look from afar because my society doesn't have the same racial problems yours does, it has a whole different set

I can look from afar because my society doesn't have the same racial problems yours does, it has a whole different set I find that hard to believe after you called Asian laborers 'coolies ' .

I find that hard to believe after you called Asian laborers 'coolies ' .

Metaphor Tom so you got the picture. As I said we have a different set of experiences and if you like racist views but no one is sweeping them under the carpet and hiding behind racial descriptions attached to a national ephelet. Race is rarely referred to here in any form, it doesn't have to be, we immediately understand where a person comes from from their appearance and their name, and we are all Australians until proven otherwise.

So from our perspective you have an interesting set of dog whistles, and while we are there how is it you don't think minimum should apply to everyone, another piece of imbedded racism?

Dude, I live in a Hispanic neighborhood, I am the minority. Amarillo is anything but isolated and we're quite diverse. No one said racism doesn't exist but we've had that talk, you use that straw man repeatedly and buy into this dog whistle crap to avoid a real discussion and perpetuate the problem. You don't want solve racism.

So you acknowledge racism exists but deny it has a language that racists talk to each other about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics


You start in 1954 by saying, "N*****, n*****, n*****." By 1968, you can't say "n*****" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N*****, n*****."[9][10]

Have you forgotten the ad by Harold Fords opponent in the 2010 senate ad?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/26/us/politics/26tennessee.html

Sorry my friend, but your straw man refrain is getting to be a symbol of when you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

So you acknowledge racism exists but deny it has a language that racists talk to each other about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics



Have you forgotten the ad by Harold Fords opponent in the 2010 senate ad?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/26/us/politics/26tennessee.html?_r=1

Sorry my friend, but your straw man refrain is getting to be a symbol of when you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Yeah, like the "Let america be america" line from Romney that happened to be a KKK slogan?

Hear! Hear! About the straw man refrain. Over it.

Yeah, like the "Let america be america" line from Romney that happened to be a KKK slogan?

Hear! Hear! about the straw man refrain. Over it.

Yeah under Romney the KKK might rise again

Too late!

Russell Pearce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_K._Pearce)


In October 2006, Pearce included the text of an article by National Alliance, a white separatist group, in an email to a group of supporters. The article, titled "Who Rules America"[23] contained allegations of Jewish control of the media and of multiculturalism being a Jewish anti-White conspiracy, as well as Holocaust denialism.[24] He quickly apologized to supporters in an email, stating: "Ugly the words contained in it really are. They are not mine and I disavow them completely. Worse still, the website links to a group whose politics are the ugliest imaginable."[24] Pearce told reporters he did not agree with the antisemitic and racist statements in the article, and that he had copied it from an email forwarded to him by someone else after "the title and the first paragraphs about media bias appealed to him".[24]

Pearce was also criticized for his association with white supremacist J. T. Ready.[25] Pearce endorsed Ready for Mesa City Council in 2006[26] and appeared with him at several rallies. In 2004 Pearce was photographed attending Ready's baptism into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). Church documents reveal that Pearce ordained Ready into the LDS priesthood.[27] Pearce has since claimed he was unaware of Ready's neo-Nazi affiliations at the time he made the endorsement.[28]

Sorry Tal must be a local thung I don't get the connection

The KKK has thrown off their hoods and become part of the mainstream politics and in the case of Mr. Pierce he has risen to the ranks of higher office in his state of Arizona and become a legitimate racist who can pass laws.

He did get recalled though by the citizens in his district, but his law is still on the books. SB1070. (Papers please).

SB 1070 ruling: Judge paves way for immigration-status checks (http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/2012/08/24/20120824sb-1070-ruling-immigration-status-checks.html?sf5926027=1)

So you acknowledge racism exists but deny it has a language that racists talk to each other about?

No sir, Biden's use of "clean" and "articulate" was blatantly racist. I'm sure Sen. Byrd used a lot of dog whistles in his day. But I find it hard to picture Bush using code with Condi as his closest advisor but then again, she isn't authentic.


Sorry my friend, but your straw man refrain is getting to be a symbol of when you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

It's a hint that you need a new line, I have most of yours memorized.

I never implied anything close to that. Clete's answer and the faux outrage over mythical racist code words definitely qualify.


No sir, Biden's use of "clean" and "articulate" was blatantly racist.

So which is it, do racist code exist?

So which is it, do racist code exist?

Byrd and Biden aren't Republicans. Figure it out if you can.

Byrd and Biden aren't Republicans. Figure it out if you can.
So republican don't use racist code words but democrats do?

So which is it, do racist code exist?

Yes and its been a effective election tool for the damn near 50 years I have been watching TV. Then they were calling freedom marchers for equality trouble makers and used fire hoses and dogs to prevent them from marching.

Today's new term is welfare, meaning poor minorities stealing the money from hardworking white people. But no mention of rich guys stealing money from poor people.

My fellow Texan often remarks that the poor have no more to steal, but they can always cut even more from the safety net, Medicare, and Medicaid, and Mitt Ryan has promised to do just that, to pay for his rich guy raises? Or is it Paul Romney? Whatever, but whatever they can't cut and steal they can always charge it to the deficit, and yes, he has promised that too!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-215_162-57499358/the-real-strategy-behind-romneys-lying-welfare-ads/


To win the presidency, Romney will need to consolidate nearly all of the undecided, predominantly white working class voters with reservations about Obama's performance. The problem is that the Obama campaign has long possessed a strategy to block Romney's path to victory: Depict Romney as an out-of-touch plutocrat bent on annihilating the middle class. In contrast, Team Romney hasn't really crafted a specific messaging strategy built to appeal to particular demographic groups.


But the ads alleging that Obama dismantled the welfare work requirement are different -- and potentially more effective. For one, they're targeted to appeal directly to white working class voters, as many others have pointed out. And unlike other attacks on Obama, the welfare advertisement introduces new information that voters probably didn't know -- which can be more effective than other ads that simply stress facts that voters already internalized. (Never mind that this information is new because it isn't true.)

As we are seeing, most right wing republicans don't care about facts. Hmmmmm!!!! Does that explain why any view other than their own is either a straw argument, or a zip damn lie??

Are we seeing a pattern here??

Dude, we're for empowering people to become independent. That's FREEDOM.

You are for expanding the dependent class. That's BONDAGE.

That's bull, I am for reigning in and regulating and taxing fairly the very rich who have extracted trillions from the economy, and tax payers. And speaking out against right wing idealogs who favor theocracy and oligarchy.

And call that freedom! That's BS!!

Dude, repeating your mantra over and over doesn't make it any more true. Truth is, blacks aren't faring too well under Obama. Black unemployment is at depression era levels. Obama's Buffet tax isn't going to fix that.

So we should vote for Mitt? Come on guy, how about hiring teachers and fire fighters and police build some schools and bridges and fix a few roads. And we all fare better. . 05% tax on incomes over $350,000, project paid for.

Dude, I just took a picture of a fancy new roadside rest area in West Memphis, AR being built by stimulus funds... right after crossing the roughest stretch of I-40 on our trip. They should have fixed the road. We can pee at the truck stop across the road or the Arkansas Welcome Center less than 5 miles away.

Priorities, not pork.

Dude, I just took a picture of a fancy new roadside rest area in West Memphis, AR being built by stimulus funds...right after crossing the roughest stretch of I-40 on our trip. They should have fixed the road.
And who made the decision to build the rest stop and not fix the road?

So we should vote for Mitt? Come on guy, how about hiring teachers and fire fighters and police build some schools and bridges and fix a few roads. And we all fare better. .05% tax on incomes over $350,000, project paid for.

But here's the rub they ain't going to raise no taxes

And who made the decision to build the rest stop and not fix the road?

I give up, who?

I give up, who?
Your state leaders perhaps? They were given, in good faith, the stimulus money with no parameters.

And that invalidates my point?

And that invalidates my point?
Where were you when the decision was made on how to spend the money?

How do you know they haven't planned to improve the roads? Being in a flood plain its always being worked on to my memory. That was years before the stimilus was even discussed.

Where were you when the decision was made on how to spend the money?

I don't live in Arkansas. So how is my point not valid?

I don't live in Arkansas. So how is my point not valid?
So why are your feathers ruffled over spending in Arkansas?

Most of the states are still sitting on that stimulus money or have spend it to pay bills (or line pockets). President Obama's mistake was to hand out the stimulus money with no parameters. He trusted the states and banks to do the right thing.

How do you know they haven't planned to improve the roads? Being in a flood plain its always being worked on to my memory. That was years before the stimilus was even discussed.

Why is there any need for a rest stop between Memphis and West Memphis, articularly when the road is crumbling. It's been patched so many times it looks like a quilt. The priority is obvious. But hey, Obama got another sign up showing all he's done for America.

So why are your feathers ruffled over spending in Arkansas?

a) I don't have any feathers to ruffle, it's an example of misplaced priorities.

B Federal dollars, that comes from me and you.

a) I don't have any feathers to ruffle, it's an example of misplaced priorities.

b Federal dollars, that comes from me and you.
Misspent by the state.

Misspent by the state.

And that makes it all better how?

And that makes it all better how?
No one can blame President Obama.

No one can blame President Obama.

He takes credit and wants to do it again so he deserves to share the blame.

He takes credit and wants to do it again so he deserves to share the blame.
... as do we for not holding the states and banks accountable.

You don't have enough facts for blame or credit because you have not given any to details of why the road is bad, for how long, or if they plan on doing anything about it.

You don't have enough facts for blame or credit because you have not given any to details of why the road is bad, for how long, or if they plan on doing anything about it.

You are the one that keeps hollering about fixing roads and such, I'm just pointing out why "stimulus" is a waste.

Which parts? The tax cuts? The building programs? Or the money to keep teachers and fire fighters, and police?

It gave states two years to make some adjustments. What, they should have been allowed to nose dive when the finances crashed or what?

Where would the states be without it? Funny how you think states don't rate government help during a crisis, but all those republicans hollering the stimulus was a failure have taken credit for the money their state got, and asked for more of it, including Paul Ryan, and the Texas state legislature. Oklahoma benefited greatly too, as I pointed out already.

Oh that's right, we should have let the states fall flat on their faces!! You still have your tax break don't you? Give it back like you told that rich guy to.

a) I don't have any feathers to ruffle, it's an example of misplaced priorities.

b Federal dollars, that comes from me and you.


I would think that talking about misplaced priorities and stimulus money being wasted on the wrong projects supports the idea that the state is responsible. This is provided that the state is responsible for deciding on where the money is to be spent.

It would still be a misplaced priority on the part of the state regardless of where the money came from.


Tut

Now I don't know all the specifics of the stimulus, but typically the feds/congress grant money for projects on request... quite often pork. The state says "we want a rest area" and the feds say yes or no.

Both are responsible. The state for wanting something unnecessary while infrastructure crumbles, the feds for going along with it. We need the road, the private sector has taken care of the restrooms... they often even advertise them so you'll know where they are. Stop in, maybe spend a few bucks and contribute to the economy while providing government revenue to fix the road. Or waste on more pork projects.

Now I don't know all the specifics of the stimulus, but typically the feds/congress grant money for projects on request...quite often pork. The state says "we want a rest area" and the feds say yes or no.

Both are responsible. The state for wanting something unnecessary while infrastructure crumbles, the feds for going along with it. We need the road, the private sector has taken care of the restrooms...they often even advertise them so you'll know where they are. Stop in, maybe spend a few bucks and contribute to the economy while providing government revenue to fix the road. Or waste on more pork projects.

From your explanation seems like something is a little mixed up, federal government getting down and dirty in the detail of local projects. You know what I think is the problem you have too many representatives of the people, too many congress men who have to satisfy someone that they have done something which can be tangibly measured at a local level, all the while competing with the state and local governments for attention. What you need to do is fatten the pig before cutting up the pork and I would say that is what stimilus is; a nice fat pig being carved up at the BBQ. Build some more highways to nowhere, bridge some ravines, not much original thinking there, but it does get people working, where just filling in the potholes is so unexciting

As I mentioned in another thread last week, some black congresswomen had a hissy fit over McCain, Graham - and the lovely Kelly Ayotte - picking on poor Susan Rice and objecting to the idea of her as Secretary of State. Here we go again, in spite of zero evidence Republicans just don't like black people or something...


RICHARD WOLFFE: I think it's Susan Rice. There is the question about John Kerry. But I think now that John McCain has sunk his teeth in, he's made it about presidential authority, and, frankly, it's outrageous that there is this witch hunt going on the right about these people of color, let's face it, around this president. Eric Holder, Valerie Jarrett, now Susan Rice. Before it was Van Jones. This is not about who is hawkish in the same way John McCain is about foreign policy because if you look at Iran and Libya, Susan Rice checks those boxes. This is a personal vendetta. It's about presidential authority.

MATTHEWS: So, you think McCain is being-- McCain and people like Lindsey Graham, McCain, who had his own daughter attacked, was accused of having an illegitimate child when, in fact, he adopted a young girl from South Asia. You're saying that McCain's being driven by racial prejudice here?

WOLFFE: There is no other way to look at this because look at her foreign policy and by the way, Look at what John McCain said about Condi Rice's nomination. We're running this story on the front page of the MSNBC website right now. Back then– four years-- eight years ago, John McCain said the people -- the Democrats who were questioning Condi Rice's credentials they were engaged with bitter innocence, they needed to move on. Why has he changed his tune? What is it about Susan Rice? And the answer is there aren't any good foreign policy explanations for it.

If she was duped into being the face of the administration's Benghazi lie what does that say about her competence?

If she went out and lied knowingly what does that say about her character?

And by the way, she seems to have had more than a few issues looking the other way from atrocities committed in Africa.

Susan Rice: Benghazi May Be Least of Her Problems (http://news.yahoo.com/susan-rice-benghazi-may-least-her-problems-060007367--politics.html)

Maybe those are some foreign policy issues worth examining Mr. Wolffe.

P.S. Did you know the vast majority of blacks refused to vote for the white guy? That can't be because they all agree with Obama's policies can it?

Add to that the Democrat Congressional campaign made it a point to target Republican minority and women candidates . I regret the losses ,especially the seats lost by Nan Heyworth and Alan West.

Susan Rice's nomination (if it's even advanced at this point) is DOA . From what I've heard ,she stepped on lots of folks on her way up the ladder... including giving the one finger salute to Richard Holbrooke... including deserting the Clintoon camp and making less than complimentary comments on Evita's foreign policy positions ;and mocking McCain during one of his trips to Iraq. She pissed off the Europeans by being openly critical of the sanctions against Iran. She has openly and aggressively confronted the Russians over their position over Syria .The Russians are openly campaigning for JF Kerry to be the new Sec State .

This flap over Benghazi is the cherry on top . She knows that she gave false info on the attack ;and still clings to the narrative. She should be hauled into Congress and made to give testimony under oath to determine if she knowingly lied ;or was fed a false narrative.

add to that the the Democrat Congressional campaign made it a point to target Republican minority and women candidates . I regret the losses ,especially the seats lost by Nan Heyworth and Alan West.

Yep, that's how much they really think of minorities and women, they'd rather have two white guys than Heyworth and West.

This racist narrative is just beginning, Rep. James Clyburn criticized a letter that 97 House Republicans sent urging Obama not to appoint Rice as being loaded with dog whistles (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/268825-clyburn-gop-letter-criticizing-rice-uses-racial-code-words-).

Give it a rest people, I'm about ready to shove your race cards down your throat.

It will work too. The President set up a scenario where he now has no choice but to advance her nomination ;and ANYONE who opposes it for any reason will be attacked for being racist and waging war on women ;even if there are real questions about her suitability for the position of Sec State.

And once again the American people will be worse off for it.

Look what the people whining about pickong on a black woman who is dumb as a stump...

Gee I see how respectful they were to Sarah Palin... and look what they did to Herman Cain... which ammounted to outright Libal and Slander...

I guess you have to be the RIGHT Black person or the RIGHT woman to be treated with respect.


I have seen NOTHING that indicates Rice is qualified to be a housekeeper... much less Secreatary of anything.

Clearly he has picked the wrong black woman named Rice, it''s so hard to get good help these days

clearly he has picked the wrong black woman named Rice, it''s so hard to get good help these days

He indeed is considering the wrong Rice for Sec State.

clearly he has picked the wrong black woman named Rice, it''s so hard to get good help these days

Rather odd... no rather typical that they'd claim Republicans are racist for opposing one black Rice after they gave the country the first two black Secretaries of State.

I don't think McCain or Graham or republicans in general are racists, and it doesn't matter since clearly they are trying to poke the democratic president in the eye for political leverage for personal reasons after their southern strategy failed miserably.

Lol the vast majority of you Congressional contingent comes from a select few states ;yet you call the Repubics a regional party.

It has nothing to do with poking Obama in the eye either. There is plenty of reason to question her competence, we discussed that here (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/3329407-post175.html) and here (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/3329436-post177.html).

Sure we discussed it, and no minds were changed, or facts acknowledged by any side. Just becaue you and Tom have reached a conclusion, others have NOT!

The houe has no vote on confirmations, and two right wing big-mouths may NOT have the pull to stop her. IF she is nominated. The rights whole conspiracy theory has been factually debunked by the CIA but who believes them?

Facts have never been a reason for the right wingers to believe the way they do. Probably never will be. Got it!

Sure we discussed it, and no minds were changed, or facts acknowledged by any side. Just becaue you and Tom have reached a conclusion, others have NOT!!

The houe has no vote on confirmations, and two right wing big-mouths may NOT have the pull to stop her. IF she is nominated. The rights whole conspiracy theory has been factually debunked by the CIA but who believes them?

Facts have never been a reason for the right wingers to believe the way they do. Probably never will be. Got it!

You can't reach a conclusion if refuse to allow the discussion. That's the Alinsky Rule # 12 tactic to avoid having the discussion and get your way, "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Odd how when it happens to a white person its not racism.. but if it's a black person it is... Obama gets 90+% of the black vote isn't racism... but if Romney gets 90+% of the white vote it is...

Hmmm. Condoleeze Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas?

Actually its more like a Liberal / Conservative thing. Liberals are free to do anything... Conservatives are free to do nothing.

That's the Alinsky Rule # 12 tactic to avoid having the discussion and get your way, "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."Doesn't that sound exactly like Fox News?

Doesn't that sound exactly like Fox News?

ZZZZZzzzzzzz

Good night LOL.

The houe has no vote on confirmations, and two right wing big-mouths may NOT have the pull to stop her. IF she is nominated. The rights whole conspiracy theory has been factually debunked by the CIA but who believes them?

You are right about the House ;and the Dems pulling the race card has probably intimidated the Senate Repubics .

Nothing has been debunked . If anything the hearings have proven that the WH is involved in a cover-up . Latest victim is Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper... who lied in testimony .

Good thing the right is always alert and ready to point out the truth... about everything except the rights plot to rule the world.

In WaterGate nobody died... in LibyaGate 4 Americans died. Its clear which one is far more serious and in need of doing something... based on the stink the lefties made over a very minor thing a long time ago.

So it your turn to make a stink? What a lousy excuse for politicizing the death of citizens and public servicemen in a dangerous part of the world.

So it your turn to make a stink? What a lousy excuse for politicizing the death of citizens and public servicemen in a dangerous part of the world.

4 people died... maybe you would think it was something big if one or more of those four were related to you?

THe coverup and the lies from the WHitehouse are reprehensible because we could have had people there HOURS before it was over... We have rapid reaction forces stationed in Sicily what train for this sort of thing... it was a 45 minute helicopter flight... Jets could have been there providing air support MUCH faster.

Obama is Liberals like YOU is WHO politicized this... in fact.. this is an Act of war... It was Political in nature when the first shot was fired at our Enassy/Consulate under international rules of war.

If killing an American Ambassodor... a political appointed figure isn't Political.. then NOTHING is.

Its uterly disgusting that Democrats actually DEFEND the Inaction from the Whitehouse... and the fact they LIED about it for over 2 weeks straight.

And the fact that THe Whitehouse AND the Dept of State refused to beef up security in such a Dangerous part of the world on the anniversery of 9/11 when EVERY government facility and major US interests abroad have hightened alerts only makes this more disgusting... thats the ONE day of the year that terrorists celibrate over every other...

Your outrage and logistical skills look good on paper, but mean nothing except you know nothing of which you speak.

A fancy way of dismissing your opinion. But well said by the next candidate to best represent the loony right wing.

Outrageous!!

Ok Smoothy It was an act of war, but one more shot in the War on Terror, this isn't a new war but an old one, the theatre keeps shifting, now it is saharan Africa, and the resolve of the players is undiminished. It seems that because OBL, Saddam and Gaddafi are out of the way, someone thinks they can relax, but you are never going to be able to relax on 9/11 whileever one Islamist remains alive

Quick quizz . On Jan 3rd there will be only one African -American US Senator. Who ?

Who cares.

Now karma play nice, they all can't be BO, but that certainly says something about emancipation

Hello tom:


Quick quizz . On Jan 3rd there will be only one African -American US Senator. Who ?I don't know, but I'll bet he's a Republican... So, I guess you're trying to tell us that you guys are the inclusive party...

Bwa, ha ha ha ha ha... And, some MORE, bwa, ha ha ha... And, even MORE bwa, ha ha ha ha.

Excon

Hello tom:

I dunno, but I'll bet he's a Republican... So, I guess you're trying to tell us that you guys are the inclusive party...

Bwa, ha ha ha ha ha.... And, some MORE, bwa, ha ha ha... And, even MORE bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

Considering the time of year shouldn't that be bwa, ho ho ho ho

Bwaaa hoooo hoooo hoooo haaaaa haaa haaa! Not only is he a Republic... he's also a Tea Party dude !

Hello again, tom:

Wow! You guys are moving left at lightning speed. You could have at least PRETENDED your right wing policies work.

excon

Their policies did work and very well. They sucked all the money from the economy world wide.

Mission Accomplished.

A SOUTHERN Tea Party black senator. But he's not really black I'm sure, just another Jesse Helms (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/07/1167940/-SC-Sen-Tim-Scott-as-Jesse-Helms-in-darker-skin).

One black guy you can brag about. Big deal. How does the new guy help his constituents is what I wait to see.

Hello again, tal:

Isn't there a name for the one lone black guy?? They trot him out when they want to show how librul they are?

Sound familiar?

excon

You mean window dressing to attract like looking support, or make the argument about how inclusive they are? If he turns out to be a winger with a suntan he gets torn apart like the rest of them.

We will see.

Where is your Dem Black Senator ? Oh that's right ,you isn't got one .

where is your Dem Black Senator ? Oh that's right ,you aint got one .
He became the POTUS.

So you sent your token Black to the WH ?

The one we had ended up being president, not once but twice. Kind of trumps your temporary fix to your color problem. Talk when Scott actually wins the seat for himself. Till then..!

so you sent your token Black to the WH ?
Is yours going to get there?

One black guy you can brag about. Big deal. How does the new guy help his constituents is what I wait to see.

You guys conveniently forget (or maybe were never taught) it was Republicans that opposed and ended slavery and championed civil rights. You guys just have them enslaved in other ways now.

Correct me if I'm wrong but what a republican was in 1865 bears very little resemblance to republicans today.

You guys conveniently forget (or maybe were never taught) it was Republicans that opposed and ended slavery and championed civil rights. You guys just have them enslaved in other ways now.
That was a totally different breed of Republican.

The point is that the left never thinks a Black conservative is authentic . No doubt Scott will be the subject of disgusting epithets from the left, like all Conservative minorities are .

No doubt Scott will be the subject of disgusting epithets from the leftI'm sure if an individual utters one you will find it and attribute it to all adherents of the party of which you are not a member. That's what happens here over and over.

Correct me if I'm wrong but what a republican was in 1865 bears very little resemblance to republicans today.

And in the 50s and 60s it was Republicans like Bull Connor, George Wallace and Lester Maddox that MLK was fighting?

I'm sure if an individual utters one you will find it and attribute it to all adherents of the party of which you are not a member. That's what happens here over and over.

No, what happens over and over is we quote one or two people and you incorrectly accuse us of maligning the whole group in your never-ending quest to discredit us. But I'm here to set you straight. You're welcome.

is we quote one or two peopleYes and then you say that represents the "left" blah blah blah. That's what I mean.

Yes and then you say that represents the "left" blah blah blah. That's what I mean.

Feel free to provide such evidence other than "blah blah blah." But since you can't, you might try discussing the issue for a change instead of your usual, undeserved personal digs.

I was discussing tom's point. I guess you'd better tell him to shut it.

Karma you know you can't tell a racist he's racist anymore than you can tell an egotist he's up himself

And the pot tells the kettle it's black yet again.

There's that word again

Black? Is that a dog whistle?

I was discussing tom's point. I guess you'd better tell him to shut it.

In other words, you got nuthin'. Just blowing smoke as usual.

Well some sort of whistle

This guy Scott is a fan of DeMint so he gets the same as the rest of the right wingers from the left.

This guy Scott is a fan of DeMint so he gets the same as the rest of the right wingers fromthe left.

You mean like this from Amos Brown, a host of a religious radio station in Indianapolis?

Hello again,

Why DID you trot out your lone black senator?? No, really? I want to know... Was it to show us how INCLUSIVE you are? I think it WAS. Was it to show us how you've LEARNED from past mistakes? Seriously. I don't know what your motivation is.

I BELIEVE that his selection as a replacement senator is meant to SHOW black folk, and/or liberal folk, just how far to the CENTER your party can move. They should LIKE you now. Or something...

Now, of course, comes your Tea Party black token. You know how I KNOW he's a token?? It's simple, really. He was put into office by WHITE people. He enjoys NO support from his own community... So, he doesn't represent black people at all. He represents what WHITE people THINK about black people. Come to think of it, we have one of those on the Supreme Court.

excon

You mean like this from Amos Brown, a host of a religious radio station in Indianapolis?Did you tweet him back? Or post your displeasure on his website? Or contact the radio station to voice your opinion?

Did you tweet him back? Or post your displeasure on his website? Or contact the radio station to voice your opinion?

Is it any of your business? No.

Hello again,

Why DID you trot out your lone black senator??? No, really? I wanna know... Was it to show us how INCLUSIVE you are? I think it WAS. Was it to show us how you've LEARNED from past mistakes? Seriously. I don't know what your motivation is.

I BELIEVE that his selection as a replacement senator is meant to SHOW black folk, and/or liberal folk, just how far to the CENTER your party can move. They should LIKE you now. Or something...

Now, of course, comes your Tea Party black token. You know how I KNOW he's a token??? It's simple, really. He was put into office by WHITE people. He enjoys NO support from his own community... So, he doesn't represent black people at all. He represents what WHITE people THINK about black people. Come to think of it, we have one of those on the Supreme Court.

excon

Wow, just wow. You have sunk to levels I would not have expected from you. So you actually believe there is a litmus test for being black. Wow.

Is it any of your business? No.I guess it's an example of why republicans are so impotent at making change happen. As opposed to going right to the source to try to effect change they seem to choose to rage in anonymous fashions.

I guess it's an example of why republicans are so impotent at making change happen. As opposed to going right to the source to try to effect change they seem to choose to rage in anonymous fashions.

As opposed to you, who lives for making assumptions. Come to reality, NK, you might like it.

Hello again,

Why DID you trot out your lone black senator??? No, really? I wanna know... Was it to show us how INCLUSIVE you are? I think it WAS. Was it to show us how you've LEARNED from past mistakes? Seriously. I don't know what your motivation is.

I BELIEVE that his selection as a replacement senator is meant to SHOW black folk, and/or liberal folk, just how far to the CENTER your party can move. They should LIKE you now. Or something...

Now, of course, comes your Tea Party black token. You know how I KNOW he's a token??? It's simple, really. He was put into office by WHITE people. He enjoys NO support from his own community... So, he doesn't represent black people at all. He represents what WHITE people THINK about black people. Come to think of it, we have one of those on the Supreme Court.

excon

The real question is... why is it that any Black who doesn't toe the liberal line is considered a token ?

As opposed to you, who lives for making assumptions. Come to reality, NK, you might like it.Just recently I helped a local group overturn a zoning ruling to preserve agricultural land in my city. I act instead of rant and rage on a website which will make no difference at all.

Just recently I helped a local group overturn a zoning ruling to preserve agricultural land in my city. I act instead of rant and rage on a website which will make no difference at all.

And just how would you what I do outside of here, are you stalking me there, too?

I mentioned the options in a previous post but you dismissed them.

Speaking of stalking - have you noticed that tom shows up every time you post? Creepy eh?

I mentioned the options in a previous post but you dismissed them.

I didn't dismiss your options, I dismissed you. There's a difference.

A non-answer is a non-answer I guess.

Well I'm off to play with my kids in the snow.

Hello again, Steve:


So Republicans just hate black people, is that it?Uhhhh, looks that way to me..

North Carolina judge (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/20/nation/la-na-racial-justice-20120421) vacates death penalty under racial justice law. WITHOUT missing a beat, the right wing controlled legislature (http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/11/30/north-carolina-senate-rewrites-racial-justice-act-gov-urged-to-veto-changes/) votes to repeal it.

They don't discriminate down there, do they?

Excon

Hello again, Steve:

Uhhhh, looks that way to me..

North Carolina judge (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/20/nation/la-na-racial-justice-20120421) vacates death penalty under racial justice law. WITHOUT missing a beat, the right wing controlled legislature (http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/11/30/north-carolina-senate-rewrites-racial-justice-act-gov-urged-to-veto-changes/) votes to repeal it.

They don't discriminate down there, do they?

excon

Zzzzzzzzzz...

Speech lives in Texas where every body they execute is GUILTY, whether they did it, or NOT!