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Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 03:19 AM
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How is your mono treatment now? Just wondering if there is any side effect such as irregular white patches. Hope to hear.

Regards

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 04:56 AM
OK, Thank you.But how can I contact her?

JudyKayTee
Aug 6, 2012, 05:13 AM
ok, Thank you.But how can I contact her?


You can't - this is an anonymous site. No one is going to furnish anyone's personal information to you.

That's the difference between a chat site and a Q and A board.

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 05:14 AM
I see.Thank you!

JudyKayTee
Aug 6, 2012, 05:24 AM
I see.Thank you!


Why don't you just ask whatever your question is and see who answers you?

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 05:28 AM
Because 90% comments are against it.I really want to know those who used it ; not from a conjectural/ hypothesis.

JudyKayTee
Aug 6, 2012, 05:55 AM
Because 90% comments are against it.I really want to know those who used it ; not from a conjectural/ hypothesis.


People are honest - they do their research and post what they have learned.

Why do you think people are "against" monobenzone if they don't believe it's dangerous?

I'm not arguing with you - the skin lightening boards (like the religious boards) seem to erupt (routinely) into angry responses.

I don't understand why people lighten (I truly don't), why they don't want to hear other people's opinions and/or why they would use a product which is believed to be dangerous.

Can we discuss this without arguing? I would like to hear your thoughts.

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 07:53 AM
Sorry, I am not here to discuss it conjecturally. I am looking for some real evidences. I met many online regarding this and their claims were just bogus.

JudyKayTee
Aug 6, 2012, 08:06 AM
sorry, I am not here to discuss it conjecturally. I am looking for some real evidences. I met many online regarding this and their claims were just bogus.


This is a Q and A site - if you prefer to only ask and not answer, that's your prerogative.

I see nothing conjectural about a discussion based on scientific evidence and a specific product. I see nothing indicating guesswork.

Physicians and scientists have posted their experiences and the results of their testing - how is that conjecture.

If you use the AMHD "search" feature you will find over 100 threads - here are just a few based on actual experience: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-lightening/lightening-skin-monobenzone-has-messed-skin-up-188828.html; https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-lightening/lightening-skin-monobenzone-has-messed-skin-up-188828.html; https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-lightening/lightening-skin-monobenzone-has-messed-skin-up-188828.html.

michaeljr
Aug 6, 2012, 04:47 PM
Personal message to one member posted for the whole site to see screams bogus.

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 06:22 PM
True, They may be dermatologists or pharmacists but my beef is to find out who has used it. Physicians always talk about conjecturally even if they don't have solid evidence. Usage of monobenzone and its supposed nature of 'disfiguring the skin or irregular white patches' are not evidence based reports always. You may not find a real case study. If they are doctors,it doesn't mean I or we are simpletons. In fact, I have studied well beyond than a medical student does.

Another stumbling point is how to find a real 'subject' to this case online. How to believe them is a 50-50% (hypothetical) case too. However, taking up risk may give some salient information because it is based on evidence. I am just bottlenecked to collect this info anyway than from a doctor's view point which I already know.


Doctors always need to rely upon knowledge-based views than evidence-based view which is unavailable to them.Unfortunately, all they have is a materia medica or a source and they are puppets of that source. However, I need to scrutnize a real client and find out it whether it is fake or genuine (by using linguistic patterns to detect lies).

Thank you for your input by the bye.

JudyKayTee
Aug 6, 2012, 06:27 PM
Personal message to one member posted for the whole site to see screams bogus.


You're right - there is an intent here.

I am going to ask a Mod if it's appropriate to close.

J_9
Aug 6, 2012, 06:31 PM
Personal message to one member posted for the whole site to see screams bogus.

So, you will accept the advice given by an anonymous individual? The reason we don't permit questions and answers via PM is so that we can be sure the advice given is legitimate.

J_9
Aug 6, 2012, 06:34 PM
Doctors always need to rely upon knowledge-based views than evidence-based view which is unavailable to them. Incorrect, we practice on evidence-based practice. Knowledge is handy, but evidence is key.

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 06:36 PM
I checked your links by the way. It may be a legit one but she has no pictrue to support it. All she said there is I am gloomy so I can't upload a picture ( can't believe it 100%). Secondly, monobenzone creams are supposed to use it continuously than stopping it suddently once you see patches.It is quite clear that she stopped using it.what she is going to lose once she stops it by the way? If she'd used it continuously,he patches would have even out. Unfortunately, her case can't even take it up seriously because no evidence(photo).Even if she submits, how could we make sure it is not photoshopED ? I have some others who used the same cream for longer period and got patches but she used it regulary.As a result, all those disappeared. Now she is using it occasionally to maintain the level. However, I need to hear from other clients.

michaeljr
Aug 6, 2012, 06:49 PM
So, you will accept the advice given by an anonymous individual? The reason we don't permit questions and answers via PM is so that we can be sure the advice given is legitimate.

Like I said, posting a question publicly but soliciting only an answer from a single particular member, in effect, discrediting everyone else, screams bogus.

Perhaps it is to draw attention (advertise) the named member's past posts? Shady.

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 06:53 PM
Ok, Group A- doctors or so called experts

Group B - real clients


If I can analyze them, I will choose 'The Group B' because it is more direct. It is not easy when doctors are not researches but they rely their inspection on ' some researches' and then their council's verdict on it. So,basically it is not that direct. I do not believe any doctor's opinion ( I am so sceptic). I may consider some expert opinion/s though. However,it doesn't mean I need to be an underdog of their suggestions.

I am looking for someone who is a real client than a doctor. Yet, I need to figure out their usage and its frequency. This is an inquest than a conquest ( to me). I must remain analytical and unbiased.

Doctors normally push their clients with their knowledge based opinions. Until a case is diagnosed, all the tools are hypothetical.What else more? Some diagnoses have been found as faulty too. Unfortunately,our medical science's excellency is not accurate; more or less they are helpless in some terminal conditions/situations.I am also aware that medical experts endeavour their best to deliver accuracy.

J_9
Aug 6, 2012, 06:54 PM
Like I said, posting a question publicly but soliciting only an answer from a single particular member, in effect, discrediting everyone else, screams bogus.


Yes, it would if it were done in PM. When posting a question here the answers can come from any number of people not just a "single particular member.



Perhaps it is to draw attention (advertise) the named member's past posts? Shady.

Anyone advertising is quickly banned from the site.

JudyKayTee
Aug 6, 2012, 06:54 PM
I checked your links btw. It may be a legit one but she has no pictrue to support it. All she said there is I am gloomy so I can't upload a picture ( can't believe it 100%). Secondly, monobenzone creams are supposed to use it continuously than stopping it suddently once you see patches.It is quite clear that she stopped using it.what she is gonna lose once she stops it btw? If she'd used it continuously,he patches would have even out. unfortunately, her case can't even take it up seriously because no evidence(photo).Even if she submits, how could we make sure it is not photoshopED ? I have some others who used the same cream for longer period of time and got patches but she used it regulary.As a result, all those disappeared. Now she is using it occassionally to maintain the level. However, I need to hear from other clients.


What is your big "need" to hear from other clients?

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 06:55 PM
So, you will accept the advice given by an anonymous individual? The reason we don't permit questions and answers via PM is so that we can be sure the advice given is legitimate.

I won't. I am just looking for a real client. Then,it is my duty to scrutinize whether they are real or fake. After that, I have to find out their method of using it.

michaeljr
Aug 6, 2012, 06:56 PM
How can the subject of this question count as a "group" testimonial if she or he is only one person?

J_9
Aug 6, 2012, 06:56 PM
I checked your links btw. Our "links" are simply random links provided by Google.

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 07:00 PM
What is your big "need" to hear from other clients?

Client based info is needed. That's all. I already have extensive data for ' medical views about monobenzone'. The other side is not balanced yet. No offence intended.

michaeljr
Aug 6, 2012, 07:01 PM
Yes, it would if it were done in PM. When posting a question here the answers can come from any number of people not just a "single particular member.


Are we even allowed to post a message directed at a particular member?

Am I allowed to ask "Hi MaryJane123, how is your vitiligo treatment with Monobenzone product going?" or something along the lines?

Would be good to know to avoid possible infractions, thanks.

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 07:02 PM
How can the subject of this question count as a "group" testimonial if she or he is only one person?
Off topic! I am here to find out someone who used or are using monobenzone. Thank you for your patience.

J_9
Aug 6, 2012, 07:03 PM
Are we even allowed to post a message directed at a particular member?

Am I allowed to ask "Hi MaryJane123, how is your vitiligo treatment with Monobenzone product going?" or something along the lines?

Would be good to know to avoid possible infractions, thanks.

That's perfectly fine! But remember to check the dates of the posts and the post count of the member. Many people are one hit wonders here, and threads/posts that are over 6 months or so old will get little response.

Also, if you have to ask a question, please make your own thread and don't piggyback it on to someone else's thread.

michaeljr
Aug 6, 2012, 07:09 PM
Thanks, I think the question I had was asking if this type of question is permissible. So it is, thanks.

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 07:10 PM
Personal message to one member posted for the whole site to see screams bogus.

I actually posted it under the sheralcrow's thread; I don't know how it appeared separate.If you think, I have a spurious intent behind this, please close this forum as I am only looking for real clients. Still, I have many more to go and search. If you are inept to answer as a client, then do not. I never begged to answer me as I am ONLY looking for a real user. I hope you do understand my perspective. BTW, Please do not underestimate others even if you are a doctor.Perhaps, 'others' may have been more than a doctor too. So truce:)

michaeljr
Aug 6, 2012, 07:21 PM
I actually posted it under the sheralcrow's thread; i don't know how it appeared separate.

That's weird.

You might need incredible patience. When I joined 5 years ago some people who gave advice with multiple posts minutes apart, sounded like monobenzone was the holy grail of skin lightening as well as had finally found the closely guarded secret fountain of youth, and like they would be around for follow-up support.

But disappeared just as soon as their posting rampages ended. Such also summates my own experience. May you come to a conclusion as informative as is wise.

At least the topic and your goal is clear now.

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 07:31 PM
Like I said, posting a question publicly but soliciting only an answer from a single particular member, in effect, discrediting everyone else, screams bogus.
Perhaps it is to draw attention (advertise) the named member's past posts? Shady.


I am not looking for a single member but monobenzone users (which is in plural).I am not looking for some advices or not interested in from those who don't use it. If I don't have my volition to seek info,why we need forums for? This is my question and if you are the user, please comment it.If you are not, you can still comment but that will be invalid to me ( it is my right to take which one is correct). Thank you!

Jethroh
Aug 6, 2012, 07:33 PM
Michaeljr, I am not looking for a perfect answer in one day. Did I say that? How quick it is for you to generalize and conclude it up.

michaeljr
Aug 6, 2012, 07:35 PM
I just dug up some testimonials, depends if you have vitiligo and your starting skin type. Guess it worked for this guy because he wasn't black or terribly dark to begin with?

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-lightening/monobenzone-benzylarbutin-total-permanent-depigmentation-normal-skin-pics-211660.html

Some said its fake but I wondered why would he take all his light skin pictures with shades on, unless he knew he was taking "after" shots to share online?
Or, it was a scam to sell. Not totally clear but I'm erring toward the latter also because I tried their products back in the day and it was so sloppy, homemaid and inconsistent.