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CluelessKitty
Jul 24, 2012, 02:06 PM
A friend of mine is using my address as his release destination next month. What should I expect as far as the initial "inspection" goes? What criteria am I expected to meet? Does it include my personal areas such as my bedroom? (my friend will be sleeping on the sofa). How soon after his release info is submitted will DOC be here to check things out? I'm not crazy about the idea of someone snooping around in my life regardless of rather or not I have anything to hide- it just seems like an invasion of privacy, so I'd like some idea of what I'm getting myself into by agreeing to this arrangement. Thanks in advance

ali18ninja
Jul 24, 2012, 02:18 PM
It is an invasion of YOUR privacy but not his. If you're willing to allow that then that's great for your friend. If YOU have something in YOUR bedroom that he cannot have, they will arrest him.

What can you expect? Well they'll knock on your door and ask to come in. If they (usually two or three officers) are anything like my probation officers, they'll simply "look" around. They don't even search for anything. They just look for anything suspicious or illegal. You can't have a single beer bottle or can around the house. Mine don't even search the other bedrooms or bathroom. They just look around the living room, look inside the fridge, and look around my room. But you shouldn't expect any of this. What you SHOULD expect is for them to look in every room, every closet, maybe move a few things, check the fridge, take a look around the house, and ask you about certain items of question.

CluelessKitty
Jul 24, 2012, 02:30 PM
Hypothetically speaking , suppose I smoke marijuana but not around my children and they were to spot a marijuana pipe in my bedroom that is kept out of my kids' range of vision but not a bigger persons. Would they be likely to make a case for CPS out of it? Not to be harsh but I'm not overly concerned with changing my lifestyle for the sake of my friend - I feel he was a little out of line to even request this but I'd like to help him out- just not at the expense of my family's well being

CluelessKitty
Jul 24, 2012, 02:34 PM
It is an invasion of YOUR privacy but not his. If you're willing to allow that then that's great for your friend. If YOU have something in YOUR bedroom that he cannot have, they will arrest him.

What can you expect? Well they'll knock on your door and ask to come in. If they (usually two or three officers) are anything like my probation officers, they'll simply "look" around. They don't even search for anything. They just look for anything suspicious or illegal. You can't have a single beer bottle or can around the house. Mine don't even search the other bedrooms or bathroom. They just look around the living room, look inside the fridge, and look around my room. But you shouldn't expect any of this. What you SHOULD expect is for them to look in every room, every closet, maybe move a few things, check the fridge, take a look around the house, and ask you about certain items of question.
CluelessKitty — New Member
Today 09:30 PM
Hypothetically speaking , suppose I smoke marijuana but not around my children and they were to spot a marijuana pipe in my bedroom that is kept out of my kids' range of vision but not a bigger persons. Would they be likely to make a case for CPS out of it? Not to be harsh but I'm not overly concerned with changing my lifestyle for the sake of my friend - I feel he was a little out of line to even request this but I'd like to help him out- just not at the expense of my family's well beingReply

Fr_Chuck
Jul 24, 2012, 02:42 PM
The PO can go into any room of the home and look and search. You can not have a gun in the home since the other person will have access to it. ( don't even start it will be in your room, does not matter

If they find pot in the home, they will revoke him at once, and most likely call the police to have you changed also.

excon
Jul 25, 2012, 04:03 AM
Hello C:

The PO can come in ANYTIME and search the ENTIRE house, and they DO. Your ROOM too. Oh, yeah.. They bring four or five big cops along with them...

excon

AK lawyer
Jul 25, 2012, 05:28 AM
Hypothetically speaking , suppose I smoke marijuana but not around my children and they were to spot a marijuana pipe in my bedroom that is kept out of my kids' range of vision but not a bigger persons. Would they be likely to make a case for CPS out of it? Not to be harsh but I'm not overly concerned with changing my lifestyle for the sake of my friend - I feel he was a little out of line to even request this but I'd like to help him out- just not at the expense of my family's well being

Hypothetically speaking, possession of drug paraphernalia is a crime in many places. If so not only could CPS get involved, you could be arrested.

If you are so concerned about your family's well-being, loose the drug habit.

And if you are not sure about helping your friend, don't.

J_9
Jul 25, 2012, 06:48 AM
Hypothetically speaking , suppose I smoke marijuana but not around my children and they were to spot a marijuana pipe in my bedroom that is kept out of my kids' range of vision but not a bigger persons. Would they be likely to make a case for CPS out of it?

Yes, that is a case for CPS. Illegal drug use is a cause to remove children from your care.

excon
Jul 25, 2012, 06:55 AM
Hello again, C:

I applaud you for trying to help your friend.. I just don't know if I'd put myself at so much risk to do so... Maybe you could offer first and last on a cheap apartment. In the long run, that MIGHT be a cheaper alternative to what you're considering.

excon

J_9
Jul 25, 2012, 07:04 AM
In the end you have to choose what is more important to you. This convict or your kids.

excon
Jul 25, 2012, 07:19 AM
This convict or your kids.Hello, my friend, J:

I don't think the choice is QUITE as stark as that... Of course, they'll make an appointment for the initial visit, and they may never return. Just because the PO CAN search the house doesn't mean they WILL. It ISN'T something they routinely do. Maybe her friend is a really good guy. Maybe he'll cruise on probation.. Maybe he'll even wash a dish or two.

We've given her the facts... Let's leave it at that.

excon

J_9
Jul 25, 2012, 07:21 AM
Oh, but it CAN be as stark as that. My MIL works for the court system and determines when, how, or if the children can remain in the custody of the parents.

J_9
Jul 25, 2012, 07:22 AM
As much as this person wants to help, and I applaud her for that, it could come back to bite her in the arse if she is indeed indulging in so-called illegal drug activity.

excon
Jul 25, 2012, 07:25 AM
Oh, but it CAN be as stark as that. My MIL works for the court system and determines when, how, or if the children can remain in the custody of the parents.Hello again, J:

I don't disagree. But that would only happen AFTER pot is found. I'm just saying, that depending on how her friend behaves, it's a pretty remote possibility.

excon

J_9
Jul 25, 2012, 07:31 AM
In my location, I don't know where the OP is, if there is a convict that is to live in a home where there are children, CPS will become involved to insure the children(s) well-being prior to the convict being allowed to live at the location. Home studies are done to insure that the children are not subjected to illegal activities.

JudyKayTee
Jul 25, 2012, 09:54 AM
Oh, but it CAN be as stark as that. My MIL works for the court system and determines when, how, or if the children can remain in the custody of the parents.


- as does my sister.

Sorry I'm not writing more but I have post AMHD traumatic syndrome.

CluelessKitty
Jul 25, 2012, 01:40 PM
Hello again, C:

I applaud you for trying to help your friend.. I just don't know if I'd put myself at so much risk to do so... Maybe you could offer first and last on a cheap apartment. In the long run, that MIGHT be a cheaper alternative to what you're considering.

excon
Thanks, you offered the most useful (and fairest) insight into my HYPOTHETICAL situation

JudyKayTee
Jul 25, 2012, 01:45 PM
Thanks, you offered the most useful (and fairest) insight into my HYPOTHETICAL situation


This is hypothetical? "A friend of mine IS USING my address as his release destination next month. What should I expect as far as the initial "inspection" goes? What criteria am I expected to meet?"

"I'm not overly concerned with changing my lifestyle for the sake of my friend ..."

CluelessKitty
Jul 26, 2012, 01:19 AM
This is hypothetical? "A friend of mine IS USING my address as his release destination next month. What should I expect as far as the initial "inspection" goes? What criteria am I expected to meet?"

"I'm not overly concerned with changing my lifestyle for the sake of my friend ..."
And the point you wish make is..

CluelessKitty
Jul 26, 2012, 01:31 AM
This is hypothetical? "A friend of mine IS USING my address as his release destination next month. What should I expect as far as the initial "inspection" goes? What criteria am I expected to meet?"

"I'm not overly concerned with changing my lifestyle for the sake of my friend ..."
And the point you wish to make is..

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 04:53 AM
and the point you wish to make is....?


I understood this the first time you posted it - it's either hypothetical or it's not. I wonder why you started with a true life scenario and then switched to hypothetical.

When the question is not true it's very easy for the person asking to continue to switch the circumstances. When it's a true situation the facts of the matter are the facts of the matter.

ali18ninja
Jul 26, 2012, 08:54 AM
Whether the question is hypocritical or not is irrelevant. She got the answers she was looking for. It's not our business to wonder whether the situation or pieces of it are hypocritical.

J_9
Jul 26, 2012, 09:18 AM
Whether the question is hypocritical

Hypocritical?

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 09:59 AM
Hypocritical?


I missed it! (Either way, for this I did research and asked my sister?)

Fr_Chuck
Jul 26, 2012, 10:13 AM
Whether the question is hypocritical or not is irrelevant. She got the answers she was looking for. It's not our business to wonder whether the situation or pieces of it are hypocritical.


Actually it is, if this is a child making up a story, or if it is someone trying to get their criminal justice homework done all makes a difference.

Most of us are very busy people, who are professionals in law, law enforcement and the courts. We are here to help REAL PEOPLE, with REAL QUESTIONS. Not made up stories,

And the issue with made up stories, they will change the story as you try to answer, wasting more time.

Fr_Chuck
Jul 26, 2012, 10:17 AM
and the point you wish to make is....?

The point is you now are afraid even on the board to admit pot is being used in your home. Guess you did not think about it when you first posted qu are qestion. So now changing the story, That question was not made it, it is obvious real questionr.

Please don't try and weasle your way out.
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If you ever want any expert on this board to ever take time to help you, you are either honest or basically no one with any knowledge will waste time on you again.

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 10:26 AM
Whether the question is hypocritical or not is irrelevant. She got the answers she was looking for. It's not our business to wonder whether the situation or pieces of it are hypocritical.


Really? Why doesn't it matter? It's not "our" business?

People rely on the legal info they get here. Next person in the same situation isn't going to realize that the information kept shifting.

Did you read what FrChuck said?

Please don't attempt to dictate how/what questions should be addressed.

tickle
Jul 26, 2012, 01:56 PM
Whether the question is hypocritical or not is irrelevant. She got the answers she was looking for. It's not our business to wonder whether the situation or pieces of it are hypocritical.

Hypocritical... JKT said HYPOTHETICAL. You really have to start reading properly and not jumping to conclusions.

I really have a problem with your judgmental attitude; please don't dictate how we are to answer posts.

JKT is a respected member of our community.

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 02:04 PM
hypocritical.....JKT said HYPOTHETICAL. You really have to start reading properly and not jumping to conclusions.

I really have a problem with your judgmental attitude; please dont dictate how we are to answer posts.

JKT is a respected member of our community.


Thanks, Tickle - I'm getting a hard time over here, too - https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/fitness/flatten-belly-687120-2.html#post3211187

CluelessKitty
Jul 26, 2012, 04:09 PM
The point is you now are afraid even on the board to admit pot is being used in your home. Guess you did not think about it when you first posted qu are qestion. So now changing the story, That question was not made it, it is obvious real questionr.

Please don't try and weasle your way out.
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If you ever want any expert on this board to ever take time to help you, you are either honest or basicly no one with any knowledge will waste time on you again.FYI, I DO smoke pot and I'm not the least bit afraid to say so. It's not like I expect to find a police officer at my door with a warrant for my arrest because of something I post here. Give me a break... I chose to use a hypothetical situation so that the answers I received wouldn't be tainted with bias as yours were.

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 04:13 PM
FYI, I DO smoke pot and I'm not the least bit afraid to say so. It's not like I expect to find a police officer at my door with a warrant for my arrest because of something I post here. Give me a break...I chose to use a hypothetical situation so that the answers I received wouldn't be tainted with bias as yours were.

It's not bias - it's the law.

Also - the fact that you are admittedly a pot smoker DOES change the advice.

So - next time pay an Attorney for the same advice.

Fr_Chuck
Jul 26, 2012, 04:43 PM
Answers without the proper facts get incorrect answers, if people

And no one cares if you smoke pot, you may break the law if you wish, that is why people ask questoins here about what to do when they break the law

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 04:44 PM
Answers without the proper facts get incorrect answers, if people

And no one cares if you smoke pot, you may break the law if you wish, that is why people ask questoins here about what to do when they break the law


Thus the name, clueless kitty.