View Full Version : FBI fingerprint results when record expunged? Help!
CC1212
Jul 13, 2012, 06:37 PM
When I was 20 I plead no contest to petty theft, but was never fingerprinted or arrested. I was escorted to my vehicle and given a ticket. I showed up to court, I gave my plea and did 1 year probation and that was that. In 2010, I had my record expunged (in California) and all was well. It's been 11 years since that conviction and ever since getting my record expunged, I have had no issues with background checks, fingerprinting, etc... even when I worked at Wells Fargo earlier this year, I had no issues. I recently was offered a job where the fingerprinting is going to the FBI database and I still haven't heard anything... so my question is, what is going to show up to the university where I was hired on my FBI fingerprinting record?
I would greatly appreciate your help. Thank you!
wakagashira893
Jul 13, 2012, 06:41 PM
The only people that have access to those types of files are government agencies and the military clearance bureaus.
CC1212
Jul 13, 2012, 06:43 PM
Universities handle federal and classified information... so, won't they see my expunged conviction?
Fr_Chuck
Jul 13, 2012, 07:33 PM
If the job requires a government security clearance and/or national security rating, yes the explunged record will show up.
First fingerprint only proves who you are, fingerprints is not connected directly to criminal records, they can run your criminal record without fingerprints, Fingerprints show if you were ever fingerprinted under another name and may have a record under another name.
The government NCIC records is ran after the finger prints gives them any additional names to run.
Next your conviction. It is a matter of your understanding of the terms, being given a ticket is a form of "arrest" a ticket is a summons to appear for a crime it is a form of being charged. So of course you were charged, you could not have done a plea deal if you were not charged. I know you were not thrown to the ground, handcuffed, taken to the station, but you were charged in the "friendly" manner with a ticket.
CC1212
Jul 13, 2012, 08:19 PM
I'm not getting a security clearance or a security rating... I'm just getting run through the system. This job doesn't require having a security clearance...
wakagashira893
Jul 17, 2012, 07:36 PM
I'm not getting a security clearance or a security rating...I'm just getting run through the system. This job doesn't require having a security clearance...
Unfortunately, California does not really have an "expungement"
If you had the charge expunged, it means that you were convicted, and the conviction was later thrown out.
So that will still show up, and legally, YES you can say that you were never convicted, but it WILL come up.
If you were living in a different state, the laws are quite different, and how they seal records and what not are always different.
Now, as far as schools go, they too, have to pay for background checks, unless you're going to, say, westpoint, or some government associated college.
It's unlikely that your school will run it.
wakagashira893
Jul 17, 2012, 07:37 PM
And one more thing, background checks really only go back 10 years, so it will not show up anyway, even if you didn't have it expunged.
Fr_Chuck
Jul 17, 2012, 07:49 PM
and one more thing, background checks really only go back 10 years, so it will not show up anyways, even if you didn't have it expunged.
Sorry, no, background checks go back forever, 20, 30, 50 years. Once in the record it is always in the record, Unless a company asks for a restricted time frame, they get all of the record
destardi
Apr 21, 2013, 04:26 PM
"background checks only go back 10 years"... not for criminal background and NOT FOR BANKS!
They're your entire adult life.
10 years is the cutoff for employment background check.