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maryknoopmyers
Jun 27, 2012, 03:58 PM
We got a 9 week old puppy from a friend maybe a week ago she had worms so we gave her deworming Med.Saturday she threw up Tuesday and won't eat since Tuesday she will drink but she only sleeps and we have no money to take her to the vet right now... what can I do?

JudyKayTee
Jun 27, 2012, 04:37 PM
We got a 9 week old puppy from a friend maybe a week ago she had worms so we gave her deworming Med.Saturday she threw up Tuesday and won't eat since Tuesday she will drink but she only sleeps and we have no money to take her to the vet right now..... what can I do?


I don't like do it yourself/over the counter medicating.

At any rate - Parvo?

And here comes the lecture - when you get a pet you are responsible for another life. That includes medical bills. Here are your choices - watch her suffer and die or stand up, do what you have to do, get medical help for her. For all I know (and I don't know what worming medication you used or where you got it) YOU overdosed her. You have internet access - cancel it and pay the Vet bills.

If you can't afford the dog and its bills turn it over to a rescue, the SPCA, someone who can assess its suffering and treat it.

Let's see - she's done nothing but sleep and vomit for 48 hours. Yes, she NEEDS to see a Vet.

These questions get posted all the time - how did you intend to pay for her vaccinations? Is your friend the breeder? A back yard breeder? I worked for a rescue. I get involved every now and then. I'm the person who worries about, pays for, cries over the pet you couldn't afford - but got anyway.

I got another call today about another owner who "can't afford" the bills. My house is full. I'll have trouble sleeping tonight. Are you losing sleep over "your" puppy"? I note you aren't even sure when you GOT the dog ("maybe").

Alty
Jun 27, 2012, 07:26 PM
Either take her to the vet or give her back to the friend that gave her to you. A dog isn't a toy. You've only had this dog for a week. It's only 9 weeks old. It needs shots, it needs to be spayed or neutered, and you can't even afford to take it to the vet when it's obviously ill.

If you can't afford the vet, you shouldn't have a pet.

JudyKayTee
Jun 27, 2012, 07:40 PM
Either take her to the vet or give her back to the friend that gave her to you. A dog isn't a toy. You've only had this dog for a week. It's only 9 weeks old. It needs shots, it needs to be spayed or neutered, and you can't even afford to take it to the vet when it's obviously ill.

If you can't afford the vet, you shouldn't have a pet.


"Maybe" a week - maybe longer or shorter. OP doesn't know.

And who knows what the worming medicine was OR if the dog had worms.

Disgusted.

Alty
Jun 27, 2012, 07:45 PM
"Maybe" a week - maybe longer or shorter. OP doesn't know.

And who knows what the worming medicine was OR if the dog had worms.

Disgusted.

I'm more than disgusted.

I'm sick of people getting pets and then saying they can't afford a vet. This puppy has only been in the family for a week, or maybe a bit longer. How did they plan on getting the 3 sets of shots the puppy will need starting at around 7 weeks of age (I doubt this pup has even had the first set of shots), and then every 3-4 weeks after. Then the spay or neuter at 6 months. The first year, if the dog is healthy, is the most expensive, but only a week later it's already "we can't afford the vet". :(

This puppy should already have been to the vet for shots. Now it's sick and it's the same old "we can't afford the vet". Then why the hell did you get a dog?

This puppy deserves the best care it can get. If you can't afford to give it that care then give it to someone that can and will.

maryknoopmyers
Jun 27, 2012, 08:41 PM
OK so I am sorry I worded the thing wrong first she started acting odd last night when I said something about money I mentioned this minute I have been on the phone with the vet she goes in tomorrow when I get paid. I was just trying to find a little help to make her comfy till then I have other dogs that are health and have all there shots I'm am sorry I worded it wrong so be fore you people go crazy but thank you I'm glad I did not to depend on any of you for help thank God my vet was there so screw all of you and yourself rituesness

Wondergirl
Jun 27, 2012, 08:47 PM
Self-righteousness??

"we have no money to take her to the vet right now."

maryknoopmyers
Jun 27, 2012, 09:03 PM
I posted the? So I can get advice before I got paid Im worried about her and was wondering if someone could have helped me before I had money to take her to the vet but instead I got people being rude and mean I would have worded it better but this is my first time using ask.

Wondergirl
Jun 27, 2012, 09:08 PM
I posted the? so I can get advice before I got paid Im worried about her and was wondering if someone could of helped me before I had money to take her to the vet but instead I got people being rude and mean I would of worded it better but this is my first time using ask.
It would have helped if you would have told us the ENTIRE situation and not just say you have a sick pup but no money to take him to the vet. You posted the "full story" only after members got upset.

Every day we read questions exactly like yours about dogs and cats and hamsters and guinea pig -- the owner buys the animal at a pet store and then has no money for medical needs, so the animal suffers and dies. The other day an owner left her guinea pig unprotected out in the rain for two days and then wondered why it was dying. We are here trying to help the animals, not for uncaring owners. If you care, more power to you!

Alty
Jun 27, 2012, 09:20 PM
If you had told us that you were planning on going to the vet when you got paid, our responses would have been different.

That's not what you posted.

You posted;


We got a 9 week old puppy from a friend maybe a week ago she had worms so we gave her deworming Med.Saturday she threw up Tuesday and won't eat since Tuesday she will drink but she only sleeps and we have no money to take her to the vet right now..... what can I do?

We can only go by what you posted. Self righteous? No. We care about your dog. That's all. If you can't accept that, then I'll say to you what you said to us;


so screw all of u

Don't expect an apology. We base our advice on what you post. Don't give all the info, and you get what you get. My only concern is for your dog, I couldn't care less about you and your attitude.

maryknoopmyers
Jun 27, 2012, 09:24 PM
OK what can I do for her tonight?

Alty
Jun 27, 2012, 09:32 PM
Is she peeing and pooing?

Try giving her chicken and rice. It's a safe food alternative, and most dogs won't be able to resist it. It will get something into her tummy.

Is she vomiting? Diarrhea?

You said she is drinking. How much?

maryknoopmyers
Jun 27, 2012, 09:50 PM
She is peeing and pooping she Won't take chicken and every time she gets up about 2 hours she drinks just a little then goes back to sleep just got off the phone with the emergency vet they told us to give a little pancake syrup on her tongue for a boSt Oh and yes vomit and diarrhea

Alty
Jun 27, 2012, 10:01 PM
Have you checked her gums? Check for dehydration. If she has diarrhea and vomiting, then even drinking a lot won't help.

I would highly suggest getting pedialyte, give that until you see the vet tomorrow, first thing tomorrow. Pedialyte is used to prevent dehydration in infants, and is perfectly safe for dogs.

The main concern is parvo, especially in a pup this age.

The pancake syrup is a good suggestion, and can boost her up, but right now she needs the hydration more than anything.

Please keep us posted, and I wish you the best of luck. But vet tomorrow first thing. If this is parvo, the sooner you seek treatment, the higher the odds of survival.

maryknoopmyers
Jun 27, 2012, 10:13 PM
OK thank you I will let you know how the vet goes

Alty
Jun 27, 2012, 10:19 PM
OK thank you I will let you know how the vet goes

Please let me know. I do hope everything works out.

I'm sorry if I was harsh, but if you read the other posts in the dog forum, most people come here expecting us to diagnose and treat their dog. We simply can't do that. Not even a vet can give a diagnosis online. It's not possible. I've been here for 4 years. After a while you get a bit jaded.

I do understand not having a lot of money, and vets are not cheap. But, if your dog is very ill, not eating, vomiting, diarrhea, then the vet really is your only option. I've been in this position, and I begged, borrowed, and sold things in order to get my pets the care they needed.

I'm glad you came back, and I'm glad that you listened. I hope you don't think I was being mean just to be mean. I love all animals, and their well being is my only concern, but I did lie. I care about the owners as well, and I hope that everything works out for you and your puppy.

maryknoopmyers
Jun 27, 2012, 10:41 PM
Thank you.

JudyKayTee
Jun 27, 2012, 10:56 PM
OK so I am sorry I worded the thing wrong first she started acting odd last night when I said something about money I mentioned this minute I have been on the phone with the vet she goes in tomorrow when I get paid. I was just trying to find a little help to make her comfy till then I have other dogs that r health and have all there shots I'm am sorry I worded it wrong so be fore u people go crazy but thank u I'm glad I did not to depend on any of u for help thank God my vet was there so screw all of u and ur self rituesness


I judge by what is written, not what's in your heart.

I can't read your mind or intentions. The whole "screw you" comment is unnecessary.

I'm glad she got sick 2 days before you got paid and not 7.

MelanieRay
Jun 28, 2012, 09:22 AM
Please let me know how your trip to the vet went. Me and my side of the road pup went through something similar except the worm part. It turned out OK for us,I hope it does for you as well.

maryknoopmyers
Jun 28, 2012, 02:08 PM
Our visit to the vet... they treating her as if she has parvo she is on fluid every 8 12 hours she's on antibodies and something for her swelling she got two shots one really had her yelping we are going to mix chic

JudyKayTee
Jun 28, 2012, 02:13 PM
Does your friend have the rest of the litter?

Do you have money for her continuing care? Parvo can be expensive!

Alty
Jun 28, 2012, 03:20 PM
Our visit to the vet... they treating her as if she has parvo she is on fluid every 8 12 hours she's on antibodies and something for her swelling she got two shots one really had her yelping we are going to mix chic

What tests did they do? Parvo cannot be diagnoses on sight alone, or symptoms.

Is she at the vet clinic, or at home with you?

JudyKayTee
Jun 28, 2012, 03:58 PM
What tests did they do? Parvo cannot be diagnoses on sight alone, or symptoms.

Is she at the vet clinic, or at home with you?

I wonder if the worming medicine sort of pushed the puppy's health over the edge? Any medication when Parvo is suspected is not recommended.

I'm not blaming - I'm just wondering how the previous owner "presented" the puppy's health - ?

Alty
Jun 28, 2012, 03:59 PM
I wonder if the worming medicine sort of pushed the puppy's health over the edge? Any medication when Parvo is suspected is not recommended.

I'm not blaming - I'm just wondering how the previous owner "presented" the puppy's health - ?

That is a huge concern. I do hope the OP told the vet that the dog had recently been given de-worming meds. That would be very important information for the vet to know when diagnosing and treating the pup.

JudyKayTee
Jun 28, 2012, 04:08 PM
That is a huge concern. I do hope the OP told the vet that the dog had recently been given de-worming meds. That would be very important information for the vet to know when diagnosing and treating the pup.


I just posted that Gretchen has an ear infection and the Doctor would NOT give her her annual shots. She doesn't have a fever.

There was a case in downstate NY where people bought the wormer at a "everything for a buck" or whatever they are called store - and the medication killed the puppy. As I recall it had something toxic in it, made in China.

And, of course, imported into and sold in the US.

(My puppy says hello to your puppy. We are leading parallel lives.)

Alty
Jun 28, 2012, 04:24 PM
(My puppy says hello to your puppy. We are leading parallel lives.)

If only you were closer, our puppies could be playing together. I would warn you that our Rascal is well named. He really is a little Rascal, but getting bigger every day. He's bigger than Chewy (our beagle) now. Much to Chewy's dismay. :)

maryknoopmyers
Jun 29, 2012, 07:42 PM
She is doing a lot better she's eating and more active now we think she will be OK.

Alty
Jun 29, 2012, 09:19 PM
She is doing a lot better she's eating and more active now we think she will be OK.

She was diagnosed with parvo yesterday but is fine today?

Something doesn't add up here.

LadySam
Jun 29, 2012, 11:48 PM
I agree something doesn't quite add up.
OP says she is on something for her swelling----what part of the puppy is swollen?
And I don't see that an "actual" diagnosis is mentioned they're treating "as if" the pup has parvo, leaving me to wonder exactly what diagnostics were done.
The shot that had her yelping was likely cerenia (my best guess, because of the nausea) or an antibiotic injection.
To the OP-rehydrating can often times produce a rebound effect of feeling suddenly much better and then waning again so watch for any signs that the pup begins to feel poorly again and keep up with giving the pedialyte.
There seem to be a lot of details missing here, however I do hope your pup continues to do well and gets better.

JudyKayTee
Jun 30, 2012, 05:54 AM
Unfortunately - because a lot of time was spent on this thread - I believe none of this. Rather than continuing to post information which doesn't make sense I would think OP would just walk away - but apparently not.

Sorry - senses are tingling and have been (as you know).

Diagnosis is questionable, puppy eating and feeling well the next day. Sorry, I'm not buying it.

Hopefully OP will come back and prove me wrong.

I doubt it.

LadySam
Jun 30, 2012, 06:42 AM
I agree, diagnosis is questionable at best.
Not so sure about this one myself and I am almost always willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

Miss Lala
Jan 4, 2013, 08:18 PM
WOW who are you people?? One of you said "I only JUDGE by your words" Who are you to place Judgment on ANYONE? This person came on this page asking for HELP... So OK... you stated she needed to take her pup to the Vet.. That was good advice but when you started BADGERING her you made me sick!! Im sure someone had this happen to their dog & could give her advice on what to do. Its bad enough that her pup was sick & instead of getting help she gets BASHED... WOW.. My heart goes out to the pups owner.. I know you love your dog or you wouldn't have reached out for help. I hope your dog gets well & Im sorry these people were so mean to you. You are a good person cause even when they jumped all over you in LEFT field... you still tried to engage with them... better you than me cause I would have come back in a dif way!! Good Luck!! GOD bless!!

Alty
Jan 4, 2013, 08:30 PM
WOW who are you people??? One of you said "I only JUDGE by your words" Who are you to place Judgment on ANYONE ?? This person came on this page asking for HELP...So ok...you stated she needed to take her pup to the Vet..That was good advice but when you started BADGERING her you made me sick !!!! Im sure someone had this happen to their dog & could give her advice on what to do. Its bad enough that her pup was sick & instead of getting help she gets BASHED...WOW..My heart goes out to the pups owner..I know you love your dog or you wouldnt have reached out for help. I hope your dog gets well & Im sorry these people were so mean to you. You are a good person cause even when they jumped all over you in LEFT field ...you still tried to engage with them...better you than me cause I would have come back in a dif way !!! Good Luck !!! GOD bless !!!

You know what makes me sick? People that get a dog when they have no way at all to take care of it when it gets sick. This owner had the pup for a week. A 9 week old pup. A young puppy needs 3 sets of shots in the first year, but the owner can't even afford to take it to the vet when it's possibly dying?

No, there is no advice anyone could have given other than to go to the vet. We can't diagnose over the internet. The only answer was to go to the vet, and frankly I'm sick and tired of people getting animals they can't afford to take care of.

My heart goes out to the puppy, because he had no choice in this. He relies on the person that brought him into their home, to take care of his needs. He has no option. The owner does.

If you can't afford a vet, don't get a pet. I won't sugar coat it, it is what it is, and it's about farking time everyone realized it. Enough animals die each year, all because of irresponsible owners. Enough is enough.

God bless the poor dog that probably died because of an irresponsible owner. :(

Miss Lala
Jan 4, 2013, 08:44 PM
What's better? A person getting a dog with no $$ (money) to take it to the Vet. OR... A dog being KILLED in a shelter due to "over crowding" Hummm... I think a chance at life is waaaaaay better than being killed!! Now I know this post wasn't about shelters and such, but IM just saying??

Alty
Jan 4, 2013, 09:04 PM
Whats better? A person getting a dog with no $$ (money) to take it to the Vet. OR... A dog being KILLED in a shelter due to "over crowding" Hummm... I think a chance at life is waaaaaay better than being killed !!! Now I know this post wasnt about shelters and such,,but IM just saying ?????

This was a 9 week old puppy. Puppies very rarely die in shelters, they're the first ones adopted. Also, where did you read that this was a rescue?

Frankly, I'd rather be humanely euthanized then die a slow painful death. Have you ever seen a dog die from parvo? Being killed in a shelter is much preferable to dying from parvo because your owner can't afford vet care, even though she just purchased you.

I volunteered in a shelter for years. Don't try to play the shelter card with me. I have more rescues then you've likely ever seen in one room.

This isn't about rescuing a shelter dog, it's about doing what you promised to do when taking on a pet, which is to provide it with the required health care, food, shots, etc. If your dog is dying, in pain, then you go to the vet.

This is not an opinion thread. The vet is the only answer, and if you need to be berated so that you'll do the right thing, so be it. I really could care less about the human beings that come here looking for a magic cure that doesn't exist. My only concern is the pets that don't have a choice or a voice.

When I say "you" I mean anyone that comes here looking for a diagnosis instead of doing the right thing and going to the vet.

Lucky098
Jan 4, 2013, 09:14 PM
LoL Did Miss LaLa seriously say that a pet is better off living with a person who cannot afford any type of veterinary care? Seriously??

Dying from parvo is said to be the worse belly ache you would ever experience. The intestines are sloughing the lining and your body cannot absorb any nutrients. Anything that you eat or drink comes up automatically and if you don't vomit, you get to experience the worse case of diarrhea possible.

I agree with Alty.. if you were given two choices of being placed in a home with a person who hasn't any money while you are severely SICK.. or be put to sleep in a shelter.. I would take the shelter.

Pets are expensive. They cost you money.

Alty
Jan 4, 2013, 09:21 PM
LoL Did Miss LaLa seriously say that a pet is better off living with a person who cannot afford any type of veterinary care?? Seriously????

Dying from parvo is said to be the worse belly ache you would ever experience. The intestines are sloughing the lining and your body cannot absorb any nutrients. Anything that you eat or drink comes up automatically and if you don't vomit, you get to experience the worse case of diarrhea possible.

I agree with Alty..if you were given two choices of being placed in a home with a person who hasn't any money while you are severely SICK.. or be put to sleep in a shelter.. I would take the shelter.

Pets are expensive. They cost you money.

She seriously did say it.

I find it funny that we're the mean ones because we care about the dog and tell the OP to go to the vet.

We're horrible human beings, we should be given 100 lashes with a wet noodle. We actually care about the dog, and expect the human that adopted it to do the right thing. How dare we?

Lucky098
Jan 4, 2013, 09:43 PM
I think its sad. I know people who get puppies or dogs or cats, etc. have the best intentions.. but the hard reality is.. you need to have some type of back up plan in case a pet does get sick.

What's really opened my eyes with the whole vet care cost thing.. is if you go into the vet and just have them look at the pet.. the huge cost everyone is dreading might not be that big... some vets will work with you, some won't.. But most of them will work with your budget.

Parvo is a scary thing. And if its bad enough, puppies typically do die. If the owners catch it early enough, treatments are given that can be done at home cutting the huge expense of hospitalization. But people avoid the vet clinic and end up with a dead dog or a huge @$$ bill.

I wish people would understand that pets cost money. Vaccines, even if you do them yourself, cost money.. spaying and neutering costs money (look up low cost spay/neuter clinics! They exist!) and god-forbid if the pet gets sick.. They just simply cost money. If you can hardly afford yourself, than Don't get a pet.. or have kids...

Alty
Jan 4, 2013, 10:15 PM
Oh I hear you.

I can't say that we're rich, we're not by any means. We make ends meet, but there's really not a lot of extra left over. But, our pets are cared for. No, Chewy and Rascal are not yet neutered, but that's happening very soon, sooner then they'd like. But, if any of my pets are sick, it's to the vet we go, even if I have to beg, borrow, sell my car. Whatever it takes.

Both Rascal and Chewy are up to date on their shots. All the bunnies except Oreo, are fixed. Oreo isn't because she's too old. She was found wandering the streets. I took her in to get fixed, but was advised against doing the surgery because of her age. But she's the only one out of 4 that isn't fixed. Marty the bird gets the care she needs, and if she were sick, she'd be going to the vet. The fish, I can't say I'd be going to the vet if one of them became ill. Heck, how would you even go about doing that? ;)

The thing is, I took these animals on, it was my choice, not theirs. It's my responsibility to look after them, and it takes more than giving a cup of food and some water ever day.

Miss Lala
Jan 5, 2013, 08:52 AM
OK... this is the last post I will make on this subject... In shelters all over the USA dogs & cats are KILLED due to over population( reality )... thank God there are many "No Kill Shelters" The point I was trying to make was... A Dog has a better chance to LIVE if they have a person that LOVES them... feeds & waters them Daily.. Vs going to a kill Shelter... That is my feeling & you had the nerve to Judge ME on how I Feel?? All of you High on the horse judgmental folks need a LIFE!! ( I am talking about a well at the time pup)

Lucky098
Jan 5, 2013, 10:02 AM
Ok Miss Lala, you're not telling us new information. A lot of people know that many pets are homeless and are in shelters, but that doesn't mean that those pets are going to be better off in a home where the family does not value their lives and health.

I don't understand why you are so upset. Have you ever had a puppy with parvo? Seen a puppy with parvo? If you did, than you would understand that there are no miracle medicines that you can purchase at the grocery store or walmart that is going to cure that pup. Even the herbal natural medicines that are said to help cure parvo cost $50.. that's still a lot of money for some people.

What would you suggest someone to do with a sick pet? Would you just pat them on the back and say, "at least it wasn't put to sleep in a shelter". Not only bad, but very poor advise.

If you have no knowledge of a situation, than you have no right to give advise. And that is not judging you, that's just pure fact.

You sound very young as well... maybe you need to experience life more before you come back to this site.

mogrann
Jan 5, 2013, 11:07 AM
I read the whole thread and frankly you make me sick. Yes it is great that people adopt animals. Yes animals are being put to sleep daily in shelters. Yes animals get sick and cost money.
Some facts for you from my personal experience.
1. If you can not afford vet check ups and emergencies maybe your time would be better spent fostering the animals so there are more room in shelters.
2. If you can't afford a vet how will you get the pet spayed or neutered to prevent more animals from being put to sleep? Interesting you now become part of the problem
3. Most people will move heaven and earth for their pet. Even having to consider rehoming if they can not afford the surgery the dog may need. (I had to consider that for Owen thankfully the complete rest for 6 weeks worked and no surgery).
4. Have you listened to the people who work the front lines about what a dog goes through with no treatment for Parvo. How in the hell is that humane? To me that is animal abuse beyond belief. How can anyone let their pet suffer and not take it to the vet or to a shelter.
5. How dare you come on here and disrespect the experts like you have? Thankfully they care more about the animals than your stupid feelings. That is a true animal lover and yes I have gotten lectures from them before when I did not listen to the advice. I took it though as I had the brains to understand they cared about my dog and what was right for him.

To the experts there are true animal lovers that appreciate you all and are thankful for you. Please remember us and ignore the people who just come here to complain because you did not tell them it was all right to allow their dog to suffer.
Ps this whole post is directed to that Miss Lala or whatever her name is.

Alty
Jan 5, 2013, 04:55 PM
OK...this is the last post I will make on this subject...In shelters all over the USA dogs & cats are KILLED due to over population( reality )...thank God there are many "No Kill Shelters" The point I was trying to make was...A Dog has a better chance to LIVE if they have a person that LOVES them ...feeds & waters them Daily..Vs going to a kill Shelter...That is my feeling & you had the nerve to Judge ME on how I Feel ??? All of you High on the horse judgmental folks need a LIFE !!!( I am talking about a well at the time pup)

Which well at the time pup are you talking about? Did you read this thread, the one you posted on, the one you came down on all of us for. The OP (original poster) said the pup had parvo. This was not a well pup at the time. It was very ill.

I know about the shelters, why are you posting about shelters? The puppy on this thread was given to the lady from a friend. It wasn't a rescue, any more than it was well.

We have the nerve to judge you? Seriously? You came here, and for your very first post on this site, you judged us! But when we come back to defend ourselves, to tell you why we posted what we did, you come back time and time again to berate what we posted. Lady, if you don't want people judging you, then don't judge them.

JudyKayTee
Jan 6, 2013, 11:49 AM
I suspect this is not "La la's" first post. I suspect it's her first post under this name.
Seems odd that out of all the posts which are similar this one is targeted.

Once again someone who is judging "us" right from the beginning complains about "judgments" made by long-term, experienced and educated members.

I happen to disagree that it is better for a dog to die a slow, painful death due to the owner's lack of funds but great love for the dog than have the dog euthanized. I do note that "La la" is experienced enough on boards to use trigger words such as "killed" rather than non-trigger words such as "euthanized."
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Alty
Jan 6, 2013, 02:56 PM
I suspect this is not "La la's" first post. I suspect it's her first post under this name.
Seems odd that out of all the posts which are similar this one is targeted.

Once again someone who is judging "us" right from the beginning complains about "judgments" made by long-term, experienced and educated members.

I happen to disagree that it is better for a dog to die a slow, painful death due to the owner's lack of funds but great love for the dog than have the dog euthanized. I do note that "La la" is experienced enough on boards to use trigger words such as "killed" rather than non-trigger words such as "euthanized."
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Want to bet that Lala and the OP are one and the same?

I wanted to make that bet the minute Lala posted.

JudyKayTee
Jan 6, 2013, 05:09 PM
The bet is on!