View Full Version : I want to know the breed of my female dog
kris.1423
May 8, 2012, 08:50 AM
But I need to know if she is a full blooded Brindle American Pit,or at least what her bloodline is.. she's still a puppy but I'd like to know sooner rather than later.. a picture is attatched.
JudyKayTee
May 8, 2012, 08:56 AM
No one can tell from a picture and the puppies are not "full blooded" unless you have papers for her and the father.
Thousands of puppies are put down every day. What is exceptional about her that her puppies would be valuable?
Have you any experience in breeding?
My dog died recently, and I looked for a puppy. There are literally thousands available, all sizes, all breeds, all homeless and unwanted. I saw entire litters. I saw dogs that had been in foster care for years and are never going to be adopted. I saw puppies that were sick or handicapped because no one tested the parents to see if they were healthy. I had to say, "Okay, I'll take you but not you."
I saw good dogs that were homeless because people couldn't find homes for the puppies or people took them and couldn't handle a puppy or people chained them to a doghouse. I saw "look alike" breeds with no papers - and people who wanted a papered dog weren't interested.
I saw a lot of pain and unhappiness and bleak lives.
Why are you breeding a dog with no papers, no value to anyone who wants a papered dog, when thousands of other good puppies are homeless?
Your dog is undoubtedly terrific, a good dog - but an unknown breed and one of thousands.
I have always had rescues. I actually worked in rescue. I volunteer (started recently) at a local shelter. I try not to lecture but I see the dogs turned away because the shelter is full. I see abused and neglected dogs.
One of those abused/neglected dogs could very well by one of your dog's puppies.
Please think it over.
kris.1423
May 8, 2012, 09:05 AM
No but a close friend of ours bred three litters including the litter our dog came from.however we don't have any paper work which is why we were wondering if there's a way to tell if she is indeed full blooded like our friend said she was.
kris.1423
May 8, 2012, 09:07 AM
& also we plan on keeping all the dogs of the litter.and we never said we were going to definitely breed her.she's only a puppy and we were just curious.
Cat1864
May 8, 2012, 10:20 AM
As Judy said, without papers from a reputable breeder you can't know.
If you know the breeder, they are the only one who can show or give you proof of your animal's breeding. If they do not have papers on the dam (to use a censor friendly term) and dog, then your animal will not be recognized and you cannot know.
If they are papered but your friend didn't register the litter or provide papers then your friend gave/sold you a pet. The animal was not meant to be bred. They may know of defects in the litter that shouldn't be passed on to future generations. If this was the third litter from the dam in a short period, the pups could have issues due to mom being over-bred. Many don't realize just what pregnancy takes out of the dam.
Why would you want her to have a litter? Dogs do not need to breed to be happy. In some cases breeding changes a female's behavior and attitude toward others. It can prolong her life to have her spayed.
If you do breed her, wait until she is at least two years old.
She is a puppy. She is a companion. Love her what she is. Don't try to make her the foundation for satisfying any desire you have to fill your home with dogs.
Lucky098
May 8, 2012, 11:44 AM
You could do a DNA test to see if the dog is pure bred. Although, from my own personal experience, I wasn't impressed with the results. The test came back on my pure bred German pointer as a Heinz 57 mutt that might have shorthair and boxer in it.
The thing with breeding, is you should breed to better your breed period. There are so many homeless pit bulls, pit bulls waiting to be euthanized at a shelter and many more sing tortured as abused in the privacy I homes.. I see no purpose for 8 more lives to enter this earth with such poor statistics at them living a long, healthy life. I know you are going to breed with the best intentions, but there is no way to ensure they get the perfect home. This breed is not for beginner dog owners, and that is who purchases them. The state of Maryland recently banned this breed and their mixes state wide. This is not a kind world to bring pit puppies into.
Also, if you are questioning her to be purebred, she most likely isn't pure. Pure bred dogs are unmistakably recognizable. If your dog is not pure bred, don't breed it. The world doesn't need anymore mutts.
One more thing. What is the intention of you dog? A breeding animal? Or a pet? If she is a pet, do the right thing for her health and spay her. Spaying her reduces the risk of breast cancer and internal infections that are life threatening, such as pyometra. Breeding your dog just once can cause severe behavior changes and your sweet, happy dog can turn into a grump.
If you do plan to breed, save up at least $2000 for emergency c-sections, vaccinations and of course puppy food.
Please reconsider your decision to breed. But if you do choose to breed, do it right.
Lucky098
May 8, 2012, 11:53 AM
Sorry for the typos... Answered from my phone and autocorrect does it's own things sometimes ;-)
kris.1423
May 8, 2012, 01:21 PM
Well since you would like to know.I said,if we do breed her we would want to keep them but since we don't know if in fact will breed her it isn't set in stone. And we have a farm,and my husband has a very good job.if we wanted to,we could have a whole litter.its well within our means.. it is our business.and I never claimed to be experienced.if I was I wouldn't be here asking a question.I clearly stated that I 'heard' there is a difference in behavior.and if there was I think I should know if there is in fact a difference.its as simple as that.and you should know we can't even rescue sick dogs here in my town anymore since you want to throw that in my face.
JudyKayTee
May 8, 2012, 01:40 PM
I have no idea what "we can't even rescue sick dogs here in my town anymore" has to do with any of this. No one has suggested that "sick" dogs should be rehomed, fostered or anything else. I didn't realize your dog is/was sick.
You need to know if your dog is a full Pit or not in order to know whether your children will be safe around her. Here is some non-PETA reading for you -
Here’s info on the four million dogs and cats euthanized every year, one every eight seconds - Pet Overpopulation : The Humane Society of the United States (http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/pet_overpopulation/)
Here’s info on the American Pit Bull Terrier - American Pit Bull Terrier, Pit Bulls, Pitbulls (http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanpitbull.htm) From my understanding people mistakenly describe dogs as Pit Bulls when actually they can be an American Staffordshire Terrier, a Staffordshire Bull Terrier OR an American Pit Bull Terrier.
Here’s info on whether American Pit Bull Terriers are good with children - American Pit Bull Terrier, Pit Bulls, Pitbulls (http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanpitbull.htm) It states pretty clearly that behavior is based on the dog, not the breed, which is clearly not what you have "heard." Heres's an AMHD thread about dogs, AKC, "mutts": https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-member-discussions/dog-breed-debate-purebred-designer-breed-591590.html
You asked whether anyone can tell if your dog is a "full blooded brindle" (which I think is a color, not a breed) American pit from a photo. The answer, as you will see if you look at the sites I posted, is no.
The photo didn't post.
JudyKayTee
May 8, 2012, 01:54 PM
You could do a DNA test to see if the dog is pure bred. Although, from my own personal experience, I wasn't impressed with the results. The test came back on my pure bred German pointer as a Heinz 57 mutt that might have shorthair and boxer in it.
This is the second time I've heard this. The first time it was an AKC GSD - and the result came back as some sort of lab and collie mix!
Good info, good answer.
(Meanwhile someone is making money on the testing.)
kris.1423
May 8, 2012, 02:01 PM
At this point I'm really done with this conversation. There was a mention of why I would want to have a litter when there are dying dogs out there.
Aurora_Bell
May 8, 2012, 02:04 PM
There is no such thing as a "full blooded pit" or a "half blooded pit". Because I have to deal with so many wonderful dogs being put down to BSL, I have learned that it's really best to NOT label your dog a "pit bull". Breed specific legislation (BSL) almost always restricts "Pit Bulls". We hear that term so often without really understanding what it means. "Pit Bull" is not actually a breed, but rather a label used to describe many breeds. Typically, these five breeds come to mind:
American Bulldog
American Pit Bull Terrier
American Staffordshire Terrier
Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Bull Terrier
Mini Bull Terrier
kris.1423
May 8, 2012, 02:22 PM
Well thank you aurora.that was an even better answer to my question than I could have asked for.
mogrann
May 8, 2012, 02:35 PM
Yes brindle is a color as Owen is a pure bred Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog. He has papers and that is why I can call him a pure bred. He is a brindle and has been mistaken for a pit bull numerous times. Owen was bought to be used for breeding and I have educated myself and he is now fixed. Please educate yourself on the horrors that pit bulls and pit bull mixes face in this world. The others that have answered your questions know their stuff. They don't worry about your feelings but rather on what is best for the dog. Please listen to what they are telling you and realize they have your dogs best interest at heart.
mogrann
May 8, 2012, 02:37 PM
Also wish I knew the address of the web site that shows you pictures of "pit bulls" and asks you to pick out the ones that are pit bulls. The results can shock you when you realize how many dogs are labeled as such and are not actually pit bulls.
kris.1423
May 8, 2012, 02:45 PM
I never doubted what they were saying to be true. But my point has been I was simply asking a question of her bloodline. Even though the question says 'i want to breed her'(which in fact was a typo) that does not mean that I am actually going to breed her.my dog is just a pup and I'm simply curious.had they given me the same answers you or aurora had given I would have said thank you and not had to waste so much of my time.so thank you very much.
JudyKayTee
May 8, 2012, 04:42 PM
"They" did give you the same answers. You just didn't want to listen to "them." In fact, you resorted to profanity and persoal insults to prove your point. Your question was either a type or someone changed it. You stated both. Which is it?
Time to close?