A couple dozen so-called "patriotic millionaires" descended on Capitol Hill to lobby for higher taxes (http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/17/patriotic-millionaires-demand-higher-taxes-but-unwilling-to-pay-up-video/#ixzz1dz3xLu00) on the 1 percent.


The Daily Caller attended their press conference with an iPad, which displayed the Treasury Department’s donation page, to find out if any of the “patriotic millionaires” were willing to put their money where their mouth is.

Apparently patriotism is no longer voluntary, one must "hold hands" as a group and force your patriotism on others.

Want to bet Obama isn't willing to hand over any of his 10+ Million dollar fortune... Or Buffet or the Kennedys... or Soros. Or the overpaid Hollywood types...

Hello:

Yeah, those lefties... But, wait a gol darn minute. There's a righty on board... Tom Colburn drank the koolaid. (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/opinion/required-reading-from-senator-tom-coburn.html). Wassa matta?

excon

Yep, Coburn made the call. Has nothing to do with my post, but yes he did. I personally thought the excuses were hilarious, and apparently their "patriotism" comes at a much higher price than they're willing to pay.

I particularly enjoyed the first guy who said he is "considerably higher in the hierarchy" than the 1 percent mentioning all the talk about paying your "fair share" and "shared sacrifice".

He said he hadn't actually seen anybody asking people like him to make that sacrifice. Well, she did ask if he'd like to donate a few thousand dollars and he said "no I wouldn't".

Of course not, they don't want to pay their "fair share." Maybe they just want the occupiers off their backs?

Hello again, Steve:

I got to tell you, your argument that they should send money or they're phoney, harkens back to your argument that as long as Al Gore doesn't walk to his engagements, he's a phoney too...

Uhhhh, those arguments don't float with me.. It's not cause I don't like 'em.. They just make no sense..

excon

I wonder why Governor Cuomo won't reinstall the NY State millionaires tax ? I wonder if it has something to do with business lost ?

In Andy's own words :



“You are kidding yourself if you think you can be one of the highest-taxed states in the nation, have a reputation for being anti-business -- and have a rosy economic future.”

Hello again, tom:

Yeah... You can make the old same tired arguments... I'm just saying that the normal solidarity shown by the right wing, has some serious members breaking ranks. Trouble is a brewing...

excon

I've never said the Goracle should walk everywhere, but these guys are hypocrites, plain and simple.

The Repubics are falling into the same Dem trap they always fall for. Essentially it comes down to this... fake temporary spending cuts in exchange for permanent tax increases. I agree with Coburn . There are gimmicks that should not be allowed . Cool crack down on those and leave the marginal rates alone.

Hi Tom it seems you are determined not to help your nation out of the spending /revenue problem it has. Over a lot of years too much money was borrowed and not enough revenue was raised, so now it is time to stop mortgaging the future and you just won't suck it. The generation who must pay the price is the present one and even the rich say so.

The simple answer Clete is too much money has been spent. Stop spending nearly $4 trillion a year. A tax on the rich that rakes in a whopping $70 billion means nothing to a $1.3 trillion deficit so it's difficult enough to take these "patriotic millionaires" seriously even before they all declined to donate to the Treasury.

Clete All Americans can be proud that this week we surpassed the $15 trillion debt threshold . Talk about a death wish !Do you really think raising taxes will make a dent in that ? Even with the Dems saying we should do more stimulus spending ? Even with them in denial of the upcoming collapse of the entitlement system their heroes have constructed ?

Reagan and Art Laffer proved in the 1980s that if you lower tax rates back to reasonable levels that you expand the work force and the tax base. Your outmoded Keynesian economics has a record of failure going back to the Great Depression.
Now if you have one method that has a proven record of success ;and one that has a long history of failure... which one would you choose ?

Its all about Ideology...

A liberal would rather drag a country into failure in the name of their ideology... than admit they are wrong and take reasonible steps to fix the problem.

Its all about Ideology...

A conservative would rather drag a country into failure in the name of their ideology... than admit they are wrong and take reasonible steps to fix the problem.

Its all about Ideology....

A conservative would rather drag a country into failure in the name of their ideology...than admit they are wrong and take reasonible steps to fix the problem.

Name one example in history THAT has ever happened... there is a huge list of failed lefty countries... and the list is growing by the day. Greece, Italy, Ireland and Portugal will be the latest ones where the entitlement mentality refuses to make way for common sense and reason. That's the Core of OUR problems... AND Europes problems. Everyone demands handouts and expects someone else to pay for them.

Hello again, smoothy:

I'll give you this... You represent your side well.. Half truths and outright falsehoods ARE the way of the right...

excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I'll give you this... You represent your side well.. Half truths and outright falsehoods ARE the way of the right...

And yet which most transparent administration ever tried to codify lying (http://my.firedoglake.com/wendydavis/2011/10/27/obama-doj-trying-to-codify-lying-to-judges-over-foia-requested-docs-now-wtf/) to the American people?

Hello again, Steve:

Shall I bring up how your wing LIED about Obama's "we've been a little bit lazy" comment?? They LIED, and LIED, and then LIED some more.

excon

President Barack Obama on American Business: "We've Been a Little Bit Lazy" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4gl3Kc6QOg)

Obama saying it on camera... in his own words.

And from a CNN feed.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/13/obama_us_has_been_lazy_about_attracting_new_busine ss.html

Hello again, Steve:

Shall I bring up how your wing LIED about Obama's "we've been a little bit lazy" comment??? They LIED, and LIED, and then LIED some more.

excon

Should I bring up all the lies about Bush? My how our memories are short. Still, only one side - the side that promised the most transparency ever (a big fat lie) - tried to codify lying.

Obama saying it on camera...in his own words.Hello again, smoothy:

Here's the LIE.. In your own link, you see that Obama WASN'T talking about the American worker. He was talking about American corporations going after over seas business...

But, when you take his remarks out of context to make it APPEAR as though Obama was dissing Americans, as Romney and Perry did, it's a LIE. It REALLY is. Look here (http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/nov/17/rick-perry/rick-perry-says-barack-obama-thinks-americans-are-/) and here (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/romney-criticizes-obama-for-criticizing-u-s/).

Now, I know you ain't going to get this. But the posts are there for the world to see, and I don't post for YOU anyway.

excon

Where did he say that... he was talking about americans in general.

where did he say that.....he was talking about americans in general.Hello again, smoothy:

I'll PRINT (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2011-11-17/obama-lazy-comment-romney-perry/51271866/1)the words out for your perusal.. Maybe that'll help. Probably not, huh?
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"Well, this is an issue, generally. I think it's important to remember that the United States is still the largest recipient of foreign investment in the world. And there are a lot of things that make foreign investors see the U.S. as a great opportunity — our stability, our openness, our innovative free market culture.

But we've been a little bit lazy, I think, over the last couple of decades. We've kind of taken for granted — well, people will want to come here and we aren't out there hungry, selling America and trying to attract new business into America."
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Let me say again, unequivocally, what Romney and Perry did was LIE through their teeth - as in LYING!

excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I'll PRINT (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2011-11-17/obama-lazy-comment-romney-perry/51271866/1)the words out for your perusal.. Maybe that'll help. Probably not, huh?
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"Well, this is an issue, generally. I think it's important to remember that the United States is still the largest recipient of foreign investment in the world. And there are a lot of things that make foreign investors see the U.S. as a great opportunity — our stability, our openness, our innovative free market culture.

But we've been a little bit lazy, I think, over the last couple of decades. We've kind of taken for granted — well, people will want to come here and we aren't out there hungry, selling America and trying to attract new business into America."
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Let me say again, unequivocally, what Romney and Perry did was LIE through their teeth - as in LYING!

excon

I saw the speech live... its really clear what he said... and he was taking another swipe at Americans just like he did on his world apology tour.

This wasn't an isolated incident... He's been doing it since before he got elected.


THe lefties tried to "explain" his honesty when he told Joe the Plumber he intended to "Spread the Wealth"... he's done nothing but hide his own wealth while bashing everyone else that makes over $75K a year ever since.