Hello wingers:

One of the complaints about Obama was his lack of experience.. Do you REALLY want to put ANOTHER rookie in the White House?

excon

Herman Cain has a lot more experience than Obama has... he has successfully turned around and ran a number of businesses.

He actually knows what it takes, Obam on the other hand has yet to run anything successfully.

Witness the current economy as an example of a dismal failure.

Herman Cain has a lot more experience than Obama has...he has sucessfully turned around and ran a number of businesses.Hello smoothy:

I'm more concerned with how he handled his recent crisis, and how that effects his ability to run the free world..

Instead of LEADING, he looked like a deer caught in the headlights. He KNEW the story was out there. Early on, HE could have released the information and put HIS spin on it... Why did he think it WOULDN'T come out? That too, causes me concern.. He's running for the leader of the free world. OF COURSE, it would come out. That he was surprised by the exposure, causes me even more concern.. He was informed 10 days before the article was published that it would be. He STILL didn't prepare. He stumbled, and stumbled, and stumbled.. Now, he thinks he can set the agenda with the press. That isn't realistic. That he THINKS he CAN, is more troublesome than ever.

I don't want him doing this with the Iranians or the Chinese, or frankly ANYBODY. You shouldn't either...

excon

Hello smoothy:

I'm more concerned with how he handled his recent crisis, and how that effects his ability to run the free world..

Instead of LEADING, he looked like a deer caught in the headlights. He KNEW the story was out there. Early on, HE could have released the information and put HIS spin on it... Why did he think it WOULDN'T come out? That too, causes me concern.. He's running for the leader of the free world. OF COURSE, it would come out. That he was surprised by the exposure, causes me even more concern.. He was informed 10 days before the article was published that it would be. He STILL didn't prepare. He stumbled, and stumbled, and stumbled.. Now, he thinks he can set the agenda with the press. That isn't realistic. That he THINKS he CAN, is more troublesome than ever.

I don't want him doing this with the Iranians or the Chinese, or frankly ANYBODY. You shouldn't either...

excon

I think it's a witch hunt... and nothing more. Nobody had the courage to come forward... they violated the confidentiality agreement just by talking about it, did they think it only applied to one party?

Its certainly hasn't been handled any worse than it was under Clinton... where the women accussing him are rape were visciously attacked by the media... at least they had the courage to show their faces so everyone knew WHO was actually making the accusations...

I'm not sold on Cain. His experience is and was much more extensive than the President's .But,I have great concerns about his answers to foreign policy questions ;and the fact that he has not done the ground work necessary to prove himself a serious candidate.

I think with the coming IAEA report on Iran that foreign policy will take center stage real soon.

Obama made up for the lack of experience by somehow managing to get his organization in place in the key caucus states. Cain has done almost no organizing I'm aware of .

Hello again, tom:

I don't believe even HE thought he'd be where he is. He just wanted to sell books, or increase his speaking fees. Maybe he thought he had a shot as a FOX News guy or even, God forbid, the Vice Presidency.

You've got to be worried over there. Romney is GOING to be your candidate.. You can call him Bob Dole, or you can call him John McCain, but he's what you've got. IF you rally to his cause, he'll BEAT Obama... But, I don't think you will. Do you?

excon

Yes he most likely will be the candidate ;and I will have no choice but to support him .

But make no mistake ; the best case the Republicans have are watered down with a Romney candidacy.

Romney in the end can only make the case that he'd be a better manager of the nanny state than the President .

His " Johnny come lately " positions on entitlements and tax reform don't fool me at all .

His " Johnny come lately " positions on entitlements and tax reform don't fool me at all .Hello again, tom:

Since they're interchangeable, I wonder if the right wing of your party would rather hold their nose and let Obama win, so they can run a REAL conservative in 2016, or put up with Romney for 8 years.

excon

I would not advise that... I already stated what was at stake. Judges don't have expiration dates unfortunately... nor does the bureaucratic infiltration.

Also they are not interchangeable... Romney is a mini-me. Obama is a true believer in progressivism (force change ) .

Obama is a true believer in progressivism.Hello tom:

From your lips to Gods ear.

excon

Cain certainly bumbled his harassment crisis, but the latest one that Allred paraded out? A witness says she was seen hugging Cain at a Tea Party event a month ago (http://www.suntimes.com/8592168-417/sneed-witness-says-cain-accuser-hugged-him-during-tea-party-meeting-a-month-ago.html). I wonder how much she was paid to try and ruin the man's reputation and by who?

Hello again, Steve:

I HATE Gloria Allred. If I didn't think this was a hit job before, I do now. It's even possible that this new accuser is on the hook to Axelrod for $3 grand (https://w3.courtlink.lexisnexis.com/cookcounty/Finddock.asp?DocketKey=CAAJ0MB0BFIICG0MD). This is getting stinkier and stinkier..

excon

I'm telling you, it's a racist plot.

November 7, 2011 (MUNDELEIN, Ill. ) (WLS) -- Sharon Bialek, who lives in suburban Mundelein, said Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain reached under her skirt 14 years ago when she was asked him about a job.
In this Intelligence Report: Who is Sharon Bialek? The Chicago-area woman has an extensive corporate and personal history in the area going back to the early 1990s.
It was her hope for a new job that Bialek says brought her to Herman Cain that day in 1997. Bialek's resume and a trail of public records indicates that changing jobs has been a regular occurrence for the Chicagoan. She has worked for at least nine different employers over the past 17 years and appears to have struggled financially.
The public record on Bialek begins in 1991 when she filed personal bankruptcy for the first time while living in Des Plaines .
Between 1993 and 1996 Bialek worked for four different companies in promotion and marketing positions.
In 1996, and part of 1997, Bialek was at the National Restaurant Association. After being let go from that job in mid-1997, she says that she went to Washington , D.C. to meet with Cain, president of the association, because she needed a job.
In 1999, Bialek's son Nicholas was born and a paternity lawsuit was filed by the father, a media executive.
In 2001 came Bialek's second personal bankruptcy, filed after sizable legal bills. That year she was hired by WGN radio where she worked until 2004 when she took a marketing job and then a job at WCKG radio.
Along the way, according to her attorney, Bialek also held positions with Revlon and Easter Seals.
Bialek currently lives in Mundelein with fiancé Mark Harwood

Who is Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain accuser Sharon Bialek? Chicago area woman accuses Cain of reaching under her skirt | abc7chicago.com (http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=8422203)

Imaging what James Carville would do with that narrative.

When similar revelations come out for the time he was CEO of Godfathers Pizza or in the Fed Reserve then I'll believe this is a pattern of behavior. I have yet to hear any of his peers at any of those organizations say this type of behavior was in character . Did he just decide to become a deviant predator when he went to NRA ? Not likely .

With Gloria Alred a law suit is right around the corner ;and I think that's the reason for this . She took out Meg Whitman last election cycle because her domestic help had a fake SS card .

Hello again, tom:

The important thing is NOT whether he's guilty or not, or whether this is a hatchet job or not. The important thing is that the episode DESTROYED his candidacy.

But, like I said earlier, even HE didn't think it would get that far. It's best for everybody, except Obama.

excon

The important thing indeed is if he did it . It's very important that if he loses on this issue that it be the truth.

I was listening on the radio this morning... this so-called victim has declaired bankruptcy, and has been through almost as many jobs since that so-called event as years that have passed.

Her claims are highly suspect and I bet the result of someone in the Democrat party greasing her palms to get her to make such a fool out of herself. She has a financial motive to make false claims.

Besides... if there was any truth to her claims... why did she never file a complaint much less a lawsuit?

The important thing indeed is if he did it . It's very important that if he loses on this issue that it be the truth.Hello tom:

Well, that's not something we'll ever know.

excon

Yeah... there's no DNA or a stain on a dress ,

I am now begging Cain to drop out. It has nothing to do with 9-9-9 or the bs sex scandal. He just doesn't have a clue about the issues related to foreign policy. His canned answer of "I'll rely on my experts " doesn't cut it. Almost certainly ,as President, he would have to make a call his experts don't agree with. He has to have the basic knowledge to make those calls . He doesn't have it and seems curiously uninterested in it.
He needs to step out of the way and let the legitimate candidates step up .

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/herman-cain-stumbles-badly-on-libya-question/2011/11/14/gIQADxpoLN_blog.html?hpid=z1

HC is a shill for the Koch bros.

And Obama is a shill for Soros . So what ?

People got their panties in a knot when Caine stumbled...

But ignored when Obama did it..

Obama Speech - Teleprompter Goes Out - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc)


CURL: Obama's stumbling, bumbling 1-term presidency - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/16/curl-obamas-stumbling-bumbling-1-term-presidency/?page=all)

Gee... Obama does it... nothing... they even dream up excuses for him.

Caine does it... and the namecalling starts.

People got their panties in a knot when Caine stumbled.....

But ignored when Obama did it..Hello smoothy:

What's your point?? We should replace one ignoramus with another?? That'd be swell..

excon

LOL, put 'em both on stage together and see who stumbles the most. To be fair though, Cain has been stumbling over a lot of things, but he has 999 down pat. They all never stumble over NEIN-NEIN-NEIN, in the congress either.

No wonder conservatives love him.

Letterman figured out why Perry and Cain hesitated and stumbled: Both were wearing red ties at the time.

LOL, put 'em both on stage together and see who stumbles the most. To be fair though, Cain has been stumbling over a lot of things, but he has 999 down pat. They all never stumble over NEIN-NEIN-NEIN, in the congress either.

No wonder conservatives love him.



Do it without a Teleprompter and NO prewritten answers and questions that aren't leaked in advance, and its Obama that's going to gag on his own tongue.

Obama has put his foot in his mouth every time he has had to speak off the cuff without reading the speech someone else wrote for him.

I will go along with those conditions, and raise you one, let HC have Bachmann, and Perry on the stage too, so he can make them all look like the idiots they really are at the same time.

Obama can't make PeeWee Herman look look an idiot after the last 3 years.

But the best debates, no scripts... questions REALLY kept secret until the debate, no teleprompters... no wireless receivers to be fed answers... no monologs, otherwise its just a propaganda show, and not a real debate.

Anything to spice up the clown circus that the GOP is putting on, and they already know the questions.

I beg your pardon, Gingrich has done a pretty good job of making everyone look like idiots, including the moderators (http://www.therightscoop.com/newt-yes-we-kill-american-citizens-if-they-are-overseas-terrorists/).

The Newtster is a sly old dog, always has been. The shenanigans he pulls are unprecedented in modern politics. He needs no TelePrompter for sure, and can answer any question that don't concern his self interests or morals. Both are one and the same, hence, are off limits. Just ask him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich#Ethics_sanctions

Anything to spice up the clown circus that the GOP is putting on, and they already know the questions.

They are all smarter than Obama... even Ron Paul.

Why don't you call this fellow Cain stumblebum and move on? You have got to have smarter people than this, but then GWB got elected

I'm waiting for someone to notice Huntsman standing in the back row.

Why don't you call this fellow Cain stumblebum and move on? you have got to have smarter people than this, but then GWB got elected
Bush was smarter than John Kerry and AL Gore who he beat...

Nobody has seen Obamas grades because they are declared national secrets, so I bet they are so low he's ashamed to show them. That means he was far less intelligent than Bush. At least Bush had a clue about a lot of things.

I'm waiting for someone to notice Huntsman standing in the back row.

He doesn't throw red meat to the slobbering dogs, to bad real credentials don't count.

He doesn't throw red meat to the slobbering dogs, to bad real credentials don't count.

They didn't count the last Presidential election... or Obama would never have been elected.

they are all smarter than obama....even ron paul.

Wrong... again!


Bush was smarter than John Kerry and AL Gore who he beat....

Nobody has seen Obamas grades because they are declared national secrets, so I bet they are so low he's ashamed to show them. That means he was far less intelligent than Bush. At least Bush had a clue about a lot of things.

... And yet again!

wrong..........again!

Prove it... I haven't seen Obama do ANYTHING yet that was smart.

He hasn't even proven he got passing grades at Harvard... he's ashamed to show them.

They said that about the birth certificate, and Trump ate crow while HE hunted down OBL.

That was pretty smart.

Prove it.....Hello smoothy:

Well, he knows where Libya is.

excon

Hello smoothy:

Well, he knows where Libya is.

excon
He doesn't grasp what the war powers act requires however.

They said that about the birth certificate, and Trump ate crow while HE hunted down OBL.

That was pretty smart.

It was faked... how hard it it to fake a document, and hid it through a low quality photo...

If it was real he wouldn't have spent 2 million dollars fighting releasing it...

SO where are his college transcripts anyway? Why are they such great national secrets Wikileaks couldn't even get them?

He must be smart if he can hide all those things you want that proves he is a dumb a$$.

He must be smart if he can hide all those things you want that proves he is a dumb a$$.

It doesn't take any intelligence... all you need is money to pay someone to hide stuff or fight attempts to release it for you.

Well he does have money..

I'm waiting for someone to notice Huntsman standing in the back row.

He should've gotten a fairer shake . But then again McCotter wasn't given the time of day and he was the best in the field .

Please let this birther stuff drop already . It never was a legit issue and the more it is forwarded the more ridiculous it sounds.
There is a wealth of real reasons to kick the President out . Let's field a candidate that can address that .

Well he does have money...............!

Something better than 10 million dollars stuffed away in banks. What he ever did to earn that is a mystery for the ages however.

Please let this birther stuff drop already . It never was a legit issue and the more it is forwarded the more rediculous it sounds.
Unfortunately for you it's what the right wingers believe.

P.S: it's spelled "ridiculous".

Just like Obamacare is... ridiculous that anyone thinks it would work or is even wanted by most people since the polls prove it isn't.

Unfortunately for you it's what the right wingers believe.

P.S: it's spelled "ridiculous".

Yet tom and I have both been refuting the birther crap for a long time, ever since it began with the anti-McCain birthers. Left-wingers believed Bush was installing a theocracy. A couple of prominent libs went public with a widely held belief that Bush was going to cancel the 2008 election. This summer the media played along with the ridiculous notion that certain Republicans were "Dominionists." So for every silly conspiracy you find on the right I'm sure I can find 3 on the left.

That's the problem with assigning one person's belief to a whole grouip - it makes your next argument less beliveable due to the broad generalization that you've already erroneously assigned. I did it as a parody, I don't really believe that's what all right-wingers think, just a few who have let the dogma take over their independent reasoning.

You have pull... tell adminstrators to put in a spell check feature .Either that or don't waste your time proof reading my posts .

You have pull....tell adminstrators to put in a spell check feature .Either that or don't waste your time proof reading my posts .
There IS a spell check feature. It was restored.

Thanks, didn't realize that .

thanks, didn't realize that .I forgive you. I was just trying to help you. Not sure why you think I have "pull" here, I don't get special favours.

How do you figure you're helping me by pointing out typo/spelling errors ?

The same way our teachers helped us by pointing out our spelling errors. :-)

how do you figure you're helping me by pointing out typo/spelling errors ?
We want you to look as good as you sound. I can quietly correct them now as the Head Content Manager. ;).

Of course, I can correct NK too for typos/errors. :D

Of course, I can correct NK too for typos/errors.If you can find them you can fix them. :-) I am admittedly a crappy typist. [I added no commas in those previous sentences due to extreme fear.]

We want you to look as good as you sound. I can quietly correct them now as the Head Content Manager. ;).

Of course, I can correct NK too for typos/errors. :D

Interested to hear what the role of a content manager is here. :confused:

Have fun reading this: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/active-members/improve-quality-content-management-team-597147.html

I was in the THICK of that thread, NK. You think I'm just sittin' here painting my nails?? :)

Maybe I should edit the current events threads today and see if anyone notices. Naaaaaaaaaah, typos show passion.

Have fun reading this: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/active-members/improve-quality-content-management-team-597147.html

Oh my God.

Oh my God.
And that was two months ago (and longer). Can you imagine how much water has gone under the bridge since then?

Welll... that's time I'll never get back . As flawed as my spelling and construct might be... what I do here is authentic unedited commentary on the events of the day. I would think that this board could be an asset to the site if properly marketted . I can name a few opinion sites on the net that do very well... and mind you ;those sites generally don't offer a diverse opinion base.

what I do here is authentic unedited commentary on the events of the day. I would think that this board could be an asset to the site if properly marketted .Hello again, tom:

**greenie**

excon

welll ...that's time I'll never get back . As flawed as my spelling and construct might be ...what I do here is authentic unedited commentary on the events of the day. I would think that this board could be an asset to the site if properly marketted . I can name a few opinion sites on the net that do very well...and mind you ;those sites generally don't offer a diverse opinion base.
I've visited some of those sites and become a member of others. You're right. This site beats them all. And your writing makes you who you are and gives your writing value and authenticity -- and I won't mess with that.

Leo Panetta... too stupid to be Sec Defense ?

"we face the threats from rising powers - China, India, others - that we have to always be aware of and try to make sure that we always have sufficient force protection out there in the Pacific to make sure they know we're never going anywhere."


US defence secretary Leon Panetta goofs up, says India is an 'emerging threat' - The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/US-defence-secretary-Leon-Panetta-goofs-up-says-India-is-an-emerging-threat/articleshow/10781790.cms)

Between him thinking that India is a threat to us and the President thinking Hawaii is in Asia(as opposed to being one of the 57 states )... Herman Cain appears to be in good company.

Cain is on Letterman tonight.

He's toast . I can't support someone as unsure about the foreign policy issues as he is . It's not that he doesn't know all the details... no one does . It's just that he needs enough rudimentary understanding of the issues that he can make decisions that are counter to the best advice of his advisors .

Anyone who knows the issues in the Cuban Missiles crisis realizes that Kennedy had to stand firm against the best advice of his experts .

Between him thinking that India is a threat to us and the President thinking Hawaii is in Asia(as opposed to being one of the 57 states ) .... Herman Cain appears to be in good company.Hello tom:

I thought you'd be able to tell the difference between a mistake and true ignorance... No, huh? That ain't good. Was it ignorance, or was it a pause?

excon

Its ignorance to not know there aren't 57 states... ask any third grader.

Its ignorance to not know there aren't 57 states.....ask any third grader.
snopes.com: Barack Obama and 57 States (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp)

snopes.com: Barack Obama and 57 States (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp)

That's total BS... many videos exist of him saying that in speeches... several different times he did it... they have been posted before... just do a Google...

He did it on camera.. time and time again. No mater what some Obama supporting editor tries to con the public into.

I've never related it to him referring to the OIC. I just made fun of him for not knowing off the top of his head how many states we have.

thats total BS....many videos exist of him saying that in speeches.....several differnt times he did it...they have been posted before....just do a google...

He did it on camera..time and time again. no mater what some Obama supporting editor tries to con the public into.It happened once. The rest of a fabrication in your mind.

And Panetta identified India as a threat only once too .

I actually give him a pass on it because he was attempting to defend the miitary budget.

Of course the boy is confused he is not a native american, he may not even know where Alaska is after all he thinks it is part of Hawaii but be assured of this he has now heard of the Asia/Pacific and will put all his efforts into conquering it for the american people

That has to be better than Cain who seems to know his name and little else.

Quote by paraclete;
of course the boy is confused he is not a native american,
Born in Hawaii, of an American mother, makes him American born, and the only native Americans here are American Indians, and to further supply you with MORE facts, the term "boy" when applied to a Black American, president or not is a RED FLAG for RACIST thinking by the user.

So which is it just so we can be clear, are you a RACIST, misinformed, or just plain... tired and mistyped.


he may not even know where Alaska is afterall he thinks it is part of Hawaii
Show me the facts to back up such an absurd statement, or is this an attempt at humor that I am taking out of CONTEXT.


but be assured of this he has now heard of the Asia/Pacific and will put all his efforts into conquering it for the american people
You meant conquering through economic means RIGHT??


That has to be better than Cain who seems to know his name and little else.
He knows PIZZA, and that's a point of respect in America, but I do agree, as far as a president goes... NO WAY!

It happened once. The rest of a fabrication in your mind.

So just because the DNC says that they expect everyone to believe it...

They also say a lot of things... like Pelosi never committed inside trading... Clinton never had sex with Monica Lewinsky... and a thousand other claims with zero basis in fact.

A true liberal believes them just because they say so...

The rest of us have seen the speeches... he was a media whore for years... on TV nearly every day. He put his foot in his mouth many times.

Born in Hawaii, of an American mother, makes him American born, and the only native Americans here are American Indians, and to further supply you with MORE facts, the term "boy" when applied to a Black American, president or not is a RED FLAG for RACIST thinking by the user.

The ordinary meaning of the term native is a person born in a particular place, so all you have proved is that BO is a native american as perhaps are you. Who is being racist now. We make no distinction here when we describe people, an Australian is an Australian, and American is an American but an Englishman will always be a pommy


So which is it just so we can be clear, are you a RACIST, misinformed, or just plain... tired and mistyped.

Boy as in young, inexperienced, do I have to teach you the meaning of the english language? I live in a land where I can call a man a boy and it might be considered a compliment. We are not so thin skinned. As Don Lane said to Muhhamud Ali on national television "I like the boy". Just because you have corrupted the language over there does not mean that those of us who hold the language as a native tongue, there is that objectionable word again, have to fall in line with you.



Show me the facts to back up such an absurd statement, or is this an attempt at humor that I am taking out of CONTEXT.

Here is one place where his words indicating this or something similar, but demonstrating a lack of knowledge of US geography and political organisation are evident
http//: www.snopes.com: Barack Obama and 57 States
Here is another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws


You meant conquering through economic means RIGHT??
No it is apparent that positioning forward bases demonstrates more than economic intent. This is why the Chinese are developing a blue wter fleet, to counter the US presence off their shores



He knows PIZZA, and that's a point of respect in America, but I do agree, as far as a president goes... NO WAY!

Yes Tal it is clear from the size of your wastelines you respect pizza more than people. So how about climbing down off your high horse and taking that bugger out of your nose so we can have a sane conversation without the overtones?

In the U.S. a native American is an American Indian. A native-born American is someone born in this country.

Paraclete, you and tal are from two different countries. Even though English is a common tongue, the semantics and shades of meaning are a mile wide.

Calling a black man "boy" in this country is a racist insult.

I guess we all have made mistakes, misspoken, or misunderstood. It happens, but I doubt seriously if our President has a problem in geography, local or global. Nor is he naïve about the self interests of China, or any other country, and sorry if what we do makes your neighbors, and trading partners nervous.

And you can switch from English, to Chinese any time you want to and get the Chinese to protect you from us. That's up to you. I see us as a deterrent to both China, and IRAN and North Korea. As well as protecting our interests and partners in the region, of which Australia is but ONE!

But my personal apology for placing you with the conservative, elitist, snobs, who hide behind language to poke their fingers in eyes of those they feel superior to. Perhaps I was showing my disdain for those who are trying to be the most influential leader in the world, yet appear as babbling, bozos in a circus of stupidity.

And Herman Cain is starting to look like a ringmaster, not a leader.

Its ignorance to not know there aren't 57 states.....ask any third grader.

It's always better to claim you don't know something than to admit you don't know anything.

Tut

But my personal apology for placing you with the conservative, elitist, snobs, who hide behind language to poke their fingers in eyes of those they feel superior to. Perhaps I was showing my disdain for those who are trying to be the most influential leader in the world, yet appear as babbling, bozos in a circus of stupidity. Hello tal:

No need to apologize. Our friend clete, knows perfectly well what BOY means, and he does indeed HIDE out when called out on it... He and I have been round this tree before..

excon

Hello tal:

No need to apologize. Our friend clete, knows perfectly well what BOY means, and he does indeed HIDE out when called out on it... He and I have been round this tree before..

excon

Which tree is that, Ex, the old Oak tree or the Cherry tree George Washington cut down? So Old Fog Horn Leghorn isn't popular in america any more, he certainly knew what boy meant, and I notice that Martin Luther King wasn't afraid to use the word negro, but you wouldn't use it today, too afraid of being racist. What a bunch of hypocrites.

Every time you describe someone you refer to that persons race and yet you say you are not racist, What a thin venier. When I refer to someone I don't refer to their race unless I am pointing out some unique characteristic

Your hatred is palatable, and comes across loud and clear.

and to further supply you with MORE facts, the term "boy" when applied to a Black American, president or not is a RED FLAG for RACIST thinking by the user.

Kind of like calling him "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy", or “light-skinned... with no Negro dialect (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/01/the-juiciest-revelations-in-game-change/33226/), unless he wanted to have one." Or how about "A few years ago this guy would have been getting us coffee (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0110/Teddys_anger.html)"?

Hello again, Steve:

Actually, the remarks are WAYYY different... Your side has difficulty with the MENTION of the words race, or black, or negro. You think if you don't mention them, that makes you free of racism. And, because the other side does mention them, because it realizes that racism is STILL with us, THEY'RE the racists for saying so...

What you NEED to do, is examine the two statements - calling a black man BOY, or complimenting him EVEN if done inarticulately, and see if they're the same... If you think they are, you're a good Republican.. If you don't, you're a good human.

excon

Hello again, Steve:

Actually, the remarks are WAYYY different... Your side has difficulty with the MENTION of the words race, or black, or negro. You think if you don't mention them, that makes you free of racism.

Damned if do and damned if you don't. That's hardly fair don't you think?


And, because the other side does, because it realizes that racism is STILL with us, THEY'RE the racists for saying so...

Their racists get a pass so again we're damned if we do and damned if we don't.


What you NEED to do, is examine the two statements - calling a black man BOY, or complimenting him EVEN if done inarticulately, and see if they're the same... If you think they are, you're a good Republican.. If you don't, you're a good human.

Nah, I'll give Clete the benefit of the doubt for not being from around here, that makes me reasonable. Being human is to make mistakes.

I will be honest in that I wanted to know the truth, and not just assume or presume, what clete was conveying. I know sometimes our remarks are not taken in the spirit they are given, and while I can give the benefit of doubt, I don't have a problem with asking to make sure.

I'm human too.

Gosh, are we about ready to sing Kum-ba-ya around here today? By the way, nice job beating up on my team, I just need 25 from my TE tonight to win.

Singing is cool, tis the season... and I wish you could see me sitting on pins and needles waiting to see the game tonight, we don't need a repeat of the last time, at least I sure don't.

I was on pins and needles watching the Cowboys game yesterday, weren't you?

Were the Bears playing the Cowboys?

Naw, but I was about to chew my toenails off. Darn near fainted when Washington missed that FG. What took the cake was the Eagles/Giants. No team had ever won this year when the threw 3 INT's. Go figure.

Were the Bears playing the Cowboys?

My Bears kicked the Chargers a$$!! Cutler is out for the season though, I hear. Darn, just when he was getting warmed up!

Naw, but I was about to chew my toenails off. Darn near fainted when Washington missed that FG. What took the cake was the Eagles/Giants. No team had ever won this year when the threw 3 INT's. Go figure.

I knew there was a score I was missing this morning. I didn't get to see the game last night and our paper must not have either. So the Iggles did beat the Gnats. Oh tom, that puts the Cowboys in first for now thanks to the division tiebreaker advantage.

Don't remind me...
I was upset enough watching the Skins outplay the Boys and the kicker blowing 2 fg. But at least at 4PM I was saying 'the Boys isn't that tough '.

Then the Gnats couldn't match the intensity of the Eagles playing like it was a must win game... even after they put Eli on his butt on an uncalled late hit ;and after DeSean Jackson tossed the ball at the Gnats Defensive coordinator and taunted the whole bench;and Cullen Jenkins knocked out DJ Ware with a helmet-to-helmet hit.

Frankly the Eagles slapped the Gnats on national TV and the gnats said 'thank you may I have another '. Jackson after his taunt only returned a punt into the red zone setting up a TD to ex Gnat Steve Smith.

Yeah the Gnats need to beat the Boys twice because of the division tie breakers... but not to worry . The Gnats won't survive the next 2 weeks... back to back Saints and Packers.

Cutler is out for the season though, I hear. Darn, just when he was getting warmed up

6 weeks .
Da Bears D can keep them in games .But obviously that's a tough division this year.

I just heard the Bears were calling the old bear killer Brett Favre, to save the season.

WOW! I just won my second game, maybe it's the start of a roll!?

Frankly the Eagles slapped the Gnats on national tv and the gnats said 'thank you may I have another '.

Good to see someone besides the Cowboys saying that.

I just heard the Bears were calling the old bear killer Brett Favre, to save the season.

WOW! I just won my second game, maybe its the start of a roll!!??

That's OK, this week I get my starting QB - Brees, my ace RB - Foster, my starting TE - Graham, and a starting WR - Mike Wallace back. I plan on taking my loss out on Spit this week.