View Full Version : I know my house is haunted what do I do?
cyndiaquarius
Nov 3, 2011, 08:12 AM
I was awoken this morning at 4:20 a.M. To my bedroom door closing real hard and I look over and there is a figure standing over my husband staring at him.I thought is was my son so I asked him what do you want ?It vanished I freaked never the less .I jumped up ran through the house flipping on every light and checking every door .The t.V. Was on in my room there was plenty of light.I know it was there.this is not the first weird thing to happen.I have been woken up by someone shaking me.and no one was there but me .I have felt someone touch me.noone there.I need to get them to leave how do I do this?
hauntinghelper
Nov 3, 2011, 01:44 PM
The best way to have them leave is to understand what they really are. You cannot fight what you do not know. I know of what you describe... I have a friend who has had this experience several times, even to the point of being choked by it. Every time this has happened to him it was made to go by the authority found in Jesus Christ. This is a demon and I for one would not like it staying in my home. If you are a spiritually mature born-again Christian, this authority is rightfully yours to use. If not, my advice is for you to find an experienced ministry that understands what is really going on in your home. There may be a reason it is able to be there... or it may have been there before you moved in... either way it can be dealt with through Jesus.
britt098
Nov 6, 2011, 06:59 PM
Next time you have an experience with this "unknown thing" very firmly tell them they have to leave. That it is your house and not theirs. Don't ask it to leave, TELL IT!
hauntinghelper
Nov 6, 2011, 08:12 PM
Not everybody has the right to tell it that. You're setting them up for failure in that wording.
RanWiz
Nov 6, 2011, 08:27 PM
Not everybody has the right to tell it that. You're setting them up for failure in that wording.
I strongly disagree! Since it is very probable that the 'vision' is not real - that is: there is no such thing as spirits in the first place - the act of confronting what you think is a spirit with a demand to leave is a psychological act: a strong one toward reclaiming control of your life. If you let others, such as a person who claims to be able to rid your house or your life of demons, enter your life, and gain control of your life, you then have a greater problem than any 'spirit'. The historical record of charlatans in the business of defrauding vulnerable and unsuspecting marks is long and illustrious. The historical record of PROVEN spiritual hauntings = ZERO. Best advice anyone can give: "GET REAL". ;)
martinizing2
Nov 6, 2011, 10:44 PM
I strongly disagree!! Since it is very probable that the 'vision' is not real - that is: there is no such thing as spirits in the first place - the act of confronting what you think is a spirit with a demand to leave is a psychological act: a strong one toward reclaiming control of your life. If you let others, such as a person who claims to be able to rid your house or your life of demons, enter your life, and gain control of your life, you then have a greater problem than any 'spirit'. The historical record of charlatans in the business of defrauding vulnerable and unsuspecting marks is long and illustrious. The historical record of PROVEN spiritual hauntings = ZERO. Best advice anyone can give: "GET REAL". ;)
Get real is good advice . Especially if you are highly informed and up to date on it.
From what research or education did you find proof that spirits or ghosts or demons or whatever name is you choose to call them , do not exist ?
Making demands of your antagonist and reclaiming your life can be effective in many ways including being strictly psychological .
Phonies , hacks , quacks , charlatans, con men and others have preyed upon the masses all through history and done so in the guise of fortune tellers, prophets, doctors, teachers , ghost busters and on and on and on.
The record of proven "haunting " , possessions , paranormal activity, call it what you will is long and documented by universities , well respected and highly educated members of the various seminaries and various clergies and members of the scientific communities all over the world will disagree with you.
The Exorcist story that Blatty wrote is based on a case documented by Doctors, professors from the local university, all of the priests and their assistants that took part in it , family members and friends and employees of the family and others ,and sworn by all to be a true and accurate accounting of the events.
And of course it was altered for movie , the child was male and did not kill anyone , but did speak in languages that he did not know or even heard in his 8 years on Earth and that was just the start of an ordeal that lasted months not weeks as the movie portrayed.
A Texas university documented the events of a woman who was beaten and sexually assaulted by unseen and unknown entities in the presence of her family , the police, the researchers from the university and her boyfriend and the doctors who treated her.
And the list started with the earliest man and continues today.
For you make the statement there are none, demonstrates your lack of actually looking into it yourself and believing the skeptics and debunkers who have as many charlatans among them as any group.
I have experienced the paranormal myself and my greatest wish is to be able to take some of the people like you (not implying anything negative) but who are so convinced it is not real , and experience what I and others did .
I was a skeptic and doubted things like ghosts existed and all could be explained if researched well. It cannot.
I don't care who believes me or not. I know what I experienced , saw, and witnessed is unbelievable , But it happened.
RanWiz
Nov 7, 2011, 06:10 AM
I understand that you've had 'sightings' -- I have too. But sometime after the sighting I came to understand that my event could be explained in psychological terms, and that there was no evidence to prove the existence of the 'ghost' I saw. Personal observations are the LEAST reliable (as has been proven in court cases over and over again). Also, When having a sighting, we 'freak' over it - which includes the release of ADRENALIN in large quantities into our blood stream. Note that adrenalin breaks down immediately into many chemical signals (pentapeptides = look them up!) including 'enkhephalin' (spelling?) a pain killer 1000 times more powerful than morphene. The overall effect of the adrenalin release is to make 'sightings' far less reliable - and often introduce delusions.
Bottom line: personal sightings can not be counted as good 'evidence' of paranormal events for this (and other reasons, such as possibility of hoaxing.)
Note that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof". Also be certain that the burden of proof for any claim lies with the claimant. For you (anyone) to say, "You can't disprove ghosts," is not helpful to get us down the path of TRUE KNOWLEDGE. If you (anyone) claims that there are spirits, then you have to supply the proof.
SO: let's get specific. Your info about the Exorcist incident - unknown to me much beyond the movie. But I'll try to do some research on that one incident. Do you have detail info on it? Such as Names, affidavits, other 'not-subjective' evidence, such as film, or artifacts?
RanWiz
Nov 7, 2011, 06:11 AM
I understand that you've had 'sightings' -- I have too. But sometime after the sighting I came to understand that my event could be explained in psychological terms, and that there was no evidence to prove the existence of the 'ghost' I saw. Personal observations are the LEAST reliable (as has been proven in court cases over and over again). Also, When having a sighting, we 'freak' over it - which includes the release of ADRENALIN in large quantities into our blood stream. Note that adrenalin breaks down immediately into many chemical signals (pentapeptides = look them up!) including 'enkhephalin' (spelling?) a pain killer 1000 times more powerful than morphene. The overall effect of the adrenalin release is to make 'sightings' far less reliable - and often introduce delusions.
Bottom line: personal sightings can not be counted as good 'evidence' of paranormal events for this (and other reasons, such as possibility of hoaxing.)
== Note that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof". Also be certain that the burden of proof for any claim lies with the claimant. For you (anyone) to say, "You can't disprove ghosts," is not helpful to get us down the path of TRUE KNOWLEDGE. If you (anyone) claims that there are spirits, then you have to supply the proof. ==
SO: let's get specific. Your info about the Exorcist incident - unknown to me much beyond the movie. But I'll try to do some research on that one incident. Do you have detail info on it? Such as Names, affidavits, other 'not-subjective' evidence, such as film, or artifacts?
hauntinghelper
Nov 7, 2011, 06:52 AM
Yes, some experiences CAN be explained way... and it is hard to PROVE spiritual manifestations... mainly because you're always going to have somebody somewhere that simply doesn't believe the proof offered. What it really comes down to is the individual experience. There are some things people go through where they KNOW they just experienced something paranormal. It's the same as Christianity... I've had that born again experience... there is nothing anybody could ever say that could convince me otherwise that the God of the Bible is not real and true. Can I prove God to someone, usually no, because it is an individual walk and experience... but due to the things I have experienced I know it is real. People all too often are trying to mix spirituality and science, which don't really mix as we cannot measure spiritual manifestations according to our natural laws... they operate beyond that. Telling the OP to "get real" does not help there situation at all.
RanWiz
Nov 7, 2011, 07:52 AM
Sorry - I only know the 'known' universe... as far as can be told, there is no other. I have to have real world proof. Read Descartes. It used to be that everyone knew that the earth was flat, stationary, and at the center of things. To say different would get you killed! Of course they were all wrong. Would you take medicine that had not been tested with 'scientific' methods? No one would if they knew what they were about. Same should apply to ALL 'known' facts. I do that in my world.
martinizing2
Nov 7, 2011, 08:35 AM
I am glad that your sighting has been explained as a psychological event and that you understand it . That must have brought you some peace.
I am very aware of the mind and body responding to fear and uncertainty by releasing adrenalin . I know the effects of adrenalin heighten your awareness and can cause exaggerated input and cause augmented memories to formulate.
But not the same memories at the same time in from 2 to 6 people witnessing the events.
The adrenalin did not cause the physical damage to the furniture or holes in the wall and floor . Large holes that would be caused by something like an 18 lb. wrecking hammer being smashed into sheetrock walls and fibreboard floors. Only no hammer or person was there. But the damage was observed as it was happening.
The physical evidence cannot be refuted .
A person being struck by a "cloud " you watch form from the ceiling and it makes a handprint shaped swelling that turns into a bruise and causes a nosebleed are not explained by anything I am aware of . I was told that the reason I could not move a muscle , even to talk was due to panic.
But it was not a panic reaction that smashed the cigarettes in my shirt pocket and the BIC lighter in my pants pocket.
With my arms were pinned at my sides and my legs to the bed with enough added downward force to crack a 1x3 mattress slat like a toothpick I am sure I didn't do it.
But people who weren't there and experienced nothing have tried to give me explanations saying my explanation is impossible so it must be something else.
I agree with it should be an impossibility .
I have been trying to find out why it isn't ever since. And will continue to do so until I draw my last breath or find the answer.
I am not preaching nor promoting belief in ghosts nor trying to gain anything but knowledge for my own peace of mind. Along with hopefully some ability to help others sort their impossibilities out.
I will find the documentation I mentioned in my previous post and provide it for any interested person.
martinizing2
Nov 7, 2011, 08:42 AM
We have mega hijacked this thread so please put any further posts in the Paranormal discussions thread I have opened.
Click the category" Paranormal Phenomena " and you will see the "Discussions " thread.
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martinizing2
Nov 7, 2011, 11:55 PM
[Edit # 2 wow quick work there Ben, I'm impressed.
jattrisky
Dec 8, 2011, 04:30 AM
Go to the nearest sikh temple and arrange an "Akhand Path" (Prayer) at your house... then see the results... Just try it and you will forget everything else.