Former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich that is, convicted on 17 of 20 counts (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-blagojevich-jurors-going-into-their-10th-day-20110627,0,620170.story)for trying to sell Obama's Senate seat. The Democrat culture of corruption continues...

It was either him or the case moved up the ladder to the
Obots or the crimial enterprise Daley organization.

Hopefully Blago will feel free to discuss with Fitz the depth of corruption in the State Machine.

What's Tony Rezko doing these days ? Who sent you ?

I won't say anything about the many crimes of the now-imprisoned previous Republican governor George Ryan.

I won't say anything about the many crimes of the now-imprisoned previous Republican governor George Ryan.Yes there are tons of corrupt republicans too but that's not important now I guess. Plus I keep trying to figure what an "obot" is, it's used extensively in this forum.

Why don't you get it purged ?

A definition of the word would suffice I guess.

a little bit of deduction here karma the word obviously comes from removal of the "R" from robot indicating a mechanical and programmed response by persons associated with Obama, the "o" in obot. Short of saying they are clones this is about as close as you get to mindless. The rest of the word may refer to the nether regions of a person's anatomy, suggesting they are of little value. I guess it's a way of defining democrats as backwoods, buck toothed, shoeless, morons. Having said that I'm not sure what tea party says about republicans, just plain idiots I guess

I guess it's a way of defining democrats as backwoods, buck toothed, shoeless, morons. Having said that I'm not sure what tea party says about republicans, just plain idiots I guess
No, no, no. Obots = shiny silver metal, mechanical, following directions from an energy source (i.e. programmed), mindless, produce occasional monotonous beeping. The tea partiers are the backwoods...

We Illinoisans are looking forward to the first photos of Blago from prison when sporting his buzzcut.

Sorry wondergirl I thought I said that. So an obot can't be backward but can it be forward?

sorry wondergirl I thought I said that. So an obot can't be backward but can it be forward?
Wouldn't obots be the future and modern?

Don't remember when I heard it first.. Maybe it was in Mother Jones . I'll give you the definition from Larry Johnson at No Quarter blog.


An Obot is an Obama Robot, programmed to see Obama as good and pure, incapable of evil, and a hero who must be robustly defended from criticism.

In this posting the Obots were in the inner circle of the White House ;Rhambo and Valeri Jarrett . They were willing to sacrifice Blago to save those 2 .
When Blago realizes he's the patsy (he was stunned yesterday that he had been convicted ) he and Rezko will start singing like canaries .

The Democrat culture of corruption continues...Hello Steve:

I don't know.. I didn't blame the Republicans when Ensign unzipped his pants... I didn't blame the Republicans when the wide stance guy tried to pick up a stranger... I didn't blame the Republicans when their guy tried to pick up congressional pages...

That's because liberals are MUCH better people than wingers...

excon

Hello Steve:

I dunno.. I didn't blame the Republicans when Ensign unzipped his pants.... I didn't blame the Republicans when the wide stance guy tried to pick up a stranger... I didn't blame the Republicans when their guy tried to pick up congressional pages....

That's because liberals are MUCH better people than wingers....

exconAgreed. It would seem that liberals see people as individuals, not groups that need to be demonized.

Ummm .Speech started using the phrase when Pelosi started using the phrase Republican "Culture of Corruption "
Culture of corruption - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_corruption)

How soon they forget .

That was 2006, this is 2011.

Yes five years makes such a difference

Yes five years makes such a differenceAgreed, in the US it's hard to find a non-corrupt politician.

I dunno.. I didn't blame the Republicans when Ensign unzipped his pants.... I didn't blame the Republicans when the wide stance guy tried to pick up a stranger... I didn't blame the Republicans when their guy tried to pick up congressional pages....

Such short memories, except for tom that is - he hit the nail on the head. I could have just continued one of the threads, it's a long story.

The Democratic "culture of corruption" (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/democratic-culture-corruption-268962.html)

Democrat culture of corruption continues? (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/democrat-culture-corruption-continues-318010.html)

Such short memories, except for tom that is - he hit the nail on the head. No he didn't. He's just trying to prove to you that two wrongs make a right - which is not the case. Can we not glorify the wrongdoings and instead praise the good deeds?

Canada has more political corruption than it should have (http://www.thewhig.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2180687&archive=true)

Political Scandals in Canada (http://integrite.org/information/law/88-political-scandals-in-canada.html)

Canada's Top Ten Political Scandals (http://www.history.ca/content/ContentDetail.aspx?ContentId=228)

Up the skirt or in the till: Top ten scandals in Canadian political history (http://www.history.ca/content/ContentDetail.aspx?ContentId=228)

The Juiciest Canadian Political Scandal We’ve Ever Heard Of (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/04/lets-look-now-at-the.html)

No he didn't. He's just trying to prove to you that two wrongs make a right - which is not the case. Can we not glorify the wrongdoings and instead praise the good deeds?

I'm breaking my new rule and responding to you. Funny you should say that after this comment:


Agreed, in the US it's hard to find a non-corrupt politician.

The Democrat culture of corruption continues...Hello again, Steve:

Ok, let's TALK about corruption.. The Republicans are WILLING to put the country into DEFAULT because they THINK it will benefit them POLITICALLY... They don't care about the financial devastation that it will cause, and, if it does, they'll blame the Democrats... They ONLY care about POWER and they think that screwing the country will be GOOD for them...

They ARE playing Russian Roulette with YOUR future. Now, THAT'S corruption!!

excon

Ex, that's politics. But if you want to go there, the left wants to spend us into oblivion, THAT"S corruption.

Hello again, Steve:

Didn't somebody say something about MEMORIES here in this thread?? I think they DID...

What you FAIL to remember, Steve, is that the LEFT gave your righty, George W. Bush a SURPLUS of money... That REALLY happened. I remember if you don't, and I'll REMIND you of it whenever necessary...

So, the current DEVASTATION the country is going through was created by the RIGHT WING GEORGE W. BUSH...

Now, you can chant the mantra of the right wing as long as you want, but I'm here to bring you back to reality.

Your turn.

excon

There are multiple ways that Blago can appeal . For one thing ,Jesse Jackson Jr's lawyers met with the judge before Jackson was questioned to go over with the judge the questions it was permissible to question Jackson about .

There was no evidence produced that proved Blago was doing this for his own gain. He believed ;and I tend to agree with him ,that this was the corrupt system he inherited . To him it was business as ususal in Illinois/Chitown.

The question I have is will this conviction loosen his tongue ? There is a cast of characters in this plot who have not gotten sufficient scrutiny...
Rezko and Stuart Levine
Rhambo
Jarrett
Jackson Jr.
Pat Quinn "the reform Governor " and his sidekick Jack Lavin(yeah they isn't immune from this )
President Obama .

He believed ;and I tend to agree with him ,that this was the corrupt system he inherited .
Ignorance of the law is no defense. Neither is "he did it so I can too."

Hello again, tom, and you too, Steve:

I'm getting from you and Steve BOTH recently with his post about the "hands off" stance he believes the media has about Obama...

Do you really believe there's some deep dark secret about Obama that everybody is hiding?? You DO think he's a Muslin plant, don't you?

excon

Don't think I've ever accused him of being a secret Muslim, but I do think he's corrupt and useless.

I'm getting from you and Steve BOTH recently with his post about the "hands off" stance he believes the media has about Obama...

Tell me ;why the media silence over Gunwalker ? Why has the media not explored the details of the attempt to get Valerie Jarrett Obama's old Senate seat ?


Do you really believe there's some deep dark secret about Obama that everybody is hiding?? You DO think he's a Muslin plant, don't you?


Nope ,I think he can't stand religion. He went to a Christian church on his way up because it was expedient to go to that church in the town he chose to cut his political teeth in. Since he became President I see no evidence of a passion for anything except his golf game.

Tell me ;why the media silence over Gunwalker ? Why has the media not explored the details of the attempt to get Valerie Jarrett Obama's old Senate seat ?Hello again, tom:

Gunwalker?? The story about how he sent guns to the narcos. I read about it. No silence there. Did thy go APE like both you and I think they should?? No, but I think they should gone APE when Obama DIDN'T prosecute Bush...

Valerie Jarrett's old seat? I don't know that it IS a story... But, my question for you, is, if it IS a story, WHY doesn't Brietbart investigate?? Are you saying that the lame stream media is the ONLY game in town? They are the ONLY ones who can uncover a story?? Hannity can't?? O'Reilly can't? The limpdude can't?? Rightwingers can't crack the Obama inner circle, but the lame stream media CAN?? There's not ONE rightwing investigative journalist out there?? Not ONE??

Dude?

excon

Nope ,I think he can't stand religion. He went to a Christian church on his way up because it was expedient to go to that church in the town he chose to cut his political teeth in. Since he became President I see no evidence of a passion for anything except his golf game.And this is why atheism is the most maligned minority. It should not mater one iota what religion a civil servant is nor should he favour one over another.

I see no evidence of a passion for anything except his golf game.Hello again, tom:

I don't know.. He LOVES them drones... Seems to me, you'd like him for his LOVE of drones, because that kind of LOVE is a very right wing kind of LOVE... He even LOVE those drones more than George W. Bush LOVED 'em. Doesn't that count?? Nahhh, it doesn't.

Could it be, that NO matter WHAT he does, you ain't going to like it?? I think so... Republicans started cap and trade - but when Obama liked it - you sh*tcanned it. Republicans started the Dream Act - but when Obama liked it - you sh*tcanned it. Republicans were for a mandate - but when Obama liked it - you sh*canned it. Republicans LOVE war - but when Obama likes it - you sound positively LIBERAL.

excon

Since he became President I see no evidence of a passion for anything except his golf game.
And if the cameras would follow him and his family to and from church every Sunday morning (with Obama waving merrily to and shaking hands with the other parishioners), then what would you say?

Bush attended church infrequently during his eight years as President and did not belong to a Washington congregation.

I can't speak to what Republicans have done . As for me :
I never supported cap and trade
I never supported a health care mandate .
You keep on trying to peg me with postions I don't take . Nice try.

I have been generally supportive of his executions of the war against jihadistan although I know his heart is not in it. I certainly have supported the expanded use of the drones .
My only critique of Libya was that he waited too long ;and then defied even the minimum criteria of his Constitutional requirement to get Congressional approval .

I think his strategergy in Afghanistan is muddled . Why surge if you are not going to let the troops do the job ? Why call Afghanistan the 'necessary war ' during the campaign and decide from the git-go to only demonstrate a show of force before retreat ?

I stand by what I said above . He has not taken the lead on ANY of his intitative either domestic or foreign . He treats his involvement in international affairs as an inconvenient burden ;and he has deferred his priority agendas to the likes of Pelosi and now Biden.

You know why the White House doesn't want him involved in the debt ceiling negotiations . They think he;d screw them up .But he'd better get involved soon. Biden's tax increases are a non-starter . There is no way they can force the House to give in on that .

Double post.

They don't because he doesn't . Bush attended church every Sunday and there was no such demonstration .
Not true.

They don't because he doesn't . Bush attended church every Sunday and there was no such demonstration .
Not true.
Correct... for the record . I have never accused the President of being a Muslim AND.. I would have a worse opinion of him if he had attended Rev Wright's church and believed the garbage Rev Wright spoke. My opinion of his lack of religion gives him the benefit of the doubt.

Ex has this habit of making statements and attributing them as my opinion/belief. That was just one of many on his last response.

Speaking of not mattering what religion someone is...

Anti-Mormon bias persists, notably among Democrats (http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/06/anti-mormon-bias-persists-notably-among-democrats)

Surely not, libs are better than that. Right ex?

Surely not, libs are better than that. Right ex?Hello tom:

Nahhh. The libs I know have disdain for all religions equally.

excon

That's an odd article, usually Romney doesn't make it out of the gate because the GOP doesn't vet due to his mormonism.
Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney#2002_gubernatorial_campaign)

The candidate's Mormon religion was also viewed with suspicion and skepticism by some in the Evangelical portion of the party;[132] polls indicated that about a quarter of Republican voters, and a quarter of voters overall, said they were less likely to vote for a candidate who was a Mormon.[133][134]
Also Pew Forum: How the Public Perceives Romney, Mormons (http://pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Public-Perceives-Romney-Mormons.aspx)

There are virtually no partisan differences in overall views of Mormons; slightly more than half of all Republicans (54%), Democrats (53%) and independents (55%) express favorable views.

There are larger differences, though, across religious groups. Solid majorities of white mainline Protestants (62%) and white non-Hispanic Catholics (59%) express favorable opinions of Mormons. But among white evangelical Protestants, just 46% have a positive impression of Mormons, while 39% have an unfavorable opinion.

Hello tom:

Nahhh. The libs I know have disdain for all religions equally.

Hello George, I don't doubt it.

Do you really believe there's some deep dark secret about Obama that everybody is hiding?? You DO think he's a Muslin plant, don't you?

Nah, they're just liars - anything to gain and keep power. You remember he was drawing the troops down in Afghanistan because it was one of the options presented to him by Petraeus? Well either the White House lied (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/general-reveals-obama-ignored-militarys-advice-afghanistan_575902.html?nopager=1) to us or Lieutenant General John Allen lied to congress.


Lieutenant General John Allen told the Senate Armed Services Committee today that the Afghanistan decision President Obama announced last week was not among the range of options the military provided to the commander in chief. Allen’s testimony directly contradicts claims from senior Obama administration officials from a background briefing before the president’s announcement.
Obama and John Allen

In response to questioning from Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Allen testified that Obama’s decision on the pace and size of Afghanistan withdrawals was “a more aggressive option than that which was presented.”

Graham pressed him. “My question is: Was that a option?”

Allen: “It was not.”

Allen's claim, which came under oath, contradicts the line the White House had been providing reporters over the past week—that Obama simply chose one option among several presented by General David Petraeus. In a conference call last Wednesday, June 22, a reporter asked senior Obama administration officials about those options. “Did General Petraeus specifically endorse this plan, or was it one of the options that General Petraeus gave to the president?”

The senior administration official twice claimed that the Obama decision was within the range of options the military presented to Obama. “In terms of General Petraeus, I think that, consistent with our approach to this, General Petraeus presented the president with a range of options for pursuing this drawdown. There were certainly options that went beyond what the president settled on in terms of the length of time that it would take to recover the surge and the pace that troops would come out – so there were options that would have kept troops in Afghanistan longer at a higher number. That said, the president’s decision was fully within the range of options that were presented to him and he has the full support of his national security team.”

The official later came back to the question and reiterated his claim. “So to your first question I would certainly – I would certainly characterize it that way. There were a range. Some of those options would not have removed troops as fast as the president chose to do, but the president’s decision was fully in the range of options the president considered.”

I knew that didn't sound like Petraeus, shame on this White House for hiding behind him for this purely political decision.

Obama see Petraeus as a rival ;just like he saw Huntsman. So he brought them in ,gave them jobs to keep his enemies closer.
Petraeus was given a mission Obama knew he would sabotage. Now the left is bleating that the General is leaving AfPakia a failure.
Afghan Troop Withdrawal: Beginning Of The End For Petraeus Counterinsurgency Strategy (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/22/afghan-counterinsurgency-ends-david-petraeus_n_882328.html)

Same with Huntsman . He will forever be branded "Obama's Ambassador to China".