Facts;
1. A man got shoot in the back on a sidewalk on his way home.
2. The bullet goes straight through his body and comes out of his chest.
3. The weapon was a S&W .357 Magnum 4 barrel revolver, 158 Full Metal
Jacket bullet.
4. Its winter time so the victim got a lots of clothes on him, the bullet
goes through his; t-shirt, shirt, costume, folded tie, coat, scarf.

Question:
Should there be any bloodstains on the sidewalk or should all his clothes
stop the bloodstains and just the bullet comes out of his chest?

Its about 50 bloodstains in different sizes, from rice size - cent size, on
a spot 17 ft x 8ft.

Best regards
Lennart Remstam

How close was the shooter?

The gun was 30 cm from his back or 1 ft, no bloodstains came out of his back, only from his chest.

LR

There would be bloodstains on the sidewalk.

There would be bloodstains on the sidewalk.

Thank you for answering, I can agree that it should be bloodstains on the
sidewalk, but to me it sounds a lot, to many stains and to big. I mean if he was naked or only had a T-shirt on how many bloodstains would it be then and how far would they
go? Is there any archives to check this?

This is from the crime scene.
Palmemordet polisen fakta (http://www.itdemokrati.nu/page35c.html) page41 or
The technical crime report from the national police (http://www.itdemokrati.nu/page78.html) or
It's windy (http://www.itdemokrati.nu/page86.html)
You can see the mark that the crime scene investigator has done,
the bloodstains are on a spot 17x8 ft, and it's about 50 stains, size on the
stains are from rice size to cent coin size.
To me it sounds a lot, that so many blood drops passes through his
winter clothes, t-shirt, shirt, costume, folded tie, coat, scarf.
I can accept it if it was summertime and the victim
only had a t-shirt on.

What I think is that the victim hold
his hand on the his chest where the bullet comes out, like this;
Blood pool part 1 (http://www.itdemokrati.nu/page83.html)
It sounds more reasonably to me, then the blood drops only have
to pass through thin gloves. See my reconstruction movie;
YouTube - Rekonstruktion av Palmemordet del II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96t2gCkn3i8&feature=channel_video_title)

Is there any archives where its possible to study this, as I see it it's got to
be a limit where the only thing that comes out is the bullet and the
lesser clothes the more bloodstains comes out.

Lennart Remstam
Thank.

The shooter is VERY close, and the gun is VERY powerful.

What I think is that the victim hold
his hand on the his chest where the bullet comes out
He would do that only AFTER he had been shot and after blood would have been spattered onto the sidewalk in front of him. Holding his hand on his chest would staunch the flow of blood down his shirt and pants, but not prevent the initial spattering when his hand was NOT on his chest.

it's got to
be a limit where the only thing that comes out is the bullet and the
lesser clothes the more bloodstains comes out.
Why a limit?

He would do that only AFTER he had been shot and after blood would have been spattered onto the sidewalk in front of him. Holding his hand on his chest would staunch the flow of blood down his shirt and pants, but not prevent the initial spattering when his hand was NOT on his chest.
The bullet went straight through his body, this is from the autopsy.
The technical crime report from the national police (http://www.itdemokrati.nu/page78.html)
He is kind of dead when the bullet comes out of his chest so he can't move his hands, he just fall down.

The bullet went straight through his body, this is from the autopsy.
The technical crime report from the national police (http://www.itdemokrati.nu/page78.html)
He is kind of dead when the bullet comes out of his chest so he can't move his hands, he just fall down.
There is plenty of time for the blood to follow the bullet out of his body and spatter on the sidewalk before he even begins to crumple and fall over and die. His hands may jerk at his sides or involuntarily go to the wound, but it's too late to prevent blood from leaving his body.

The main piece of evidence for the blood spatter in front of him is the closeness of the shooter and the weapon to his body.

Why a limit?
See it this way;

You got 2 plastic bottles full of blood, one is covered with
Winter clothes the other one got no cover, it's naked.
You shoot a bullet straight through them, one at a time.

Question;
Do you think it will be the same amount of blood around
Them when you examen the area around them?

Lennhart,

I have had no luck using the translation capacity of Google in order to review the autopsy finding (or other report) involved.

I find your query very interesting and based on available/presented evidence think it is related to trajectory.

I notice various cross-references in your citations and haven't checked them.

I enjoy this type of investigation, it was my career for the past 15 years (ie, postmortem reconstruction), have no objection to educational ends, but would like to know more of your interest and need in order to determine if I may be of further assitance.

Is this for school, for a forensics course?

Who is your victim?

Thank you DrBill100.
I been working on this case the last 12 years and it's about the Swedish Prime minister
Olof Palmes death back in 1986. I been doing a reconstruction (animation and website)
About the murder execution according to all the forensic science a could find.
It's a reward on almost 10 million dollars on this case.

I found out strange things and specially this bloodstains, to me it sounds strange that so
Much blood is following the bullet out through his clothes, as I see it the clothes more or less
Are working as a membrane and stops the blood but not the bullet.

I don't have this experience so that's why I need an answer from somebody with experience
Who knows what his talking about. The best thing would be to look at similar cases where
People more or less been executed with winter clothes on, but where do I find them?

Another question, I think one of the bullets broke this branch, what do you think?
The branch is broken (http://www.itdemokrati.nu/page80.html)

Best regards
Lennart Remstam

Who is your victim?


The assassination of the Swedish Prime minister Olof Palme back in
1986. If you solve the case you got million dollars more in you pocket.
Olof Palme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olof_Palme)

This is my investigation, there is some physic, math(forensic science) that
Is wrong from the police as I see it, correct me if I'm wrong.

For example this branch, is it a bullet who made this, is it possible to reconstruct
This happening?
The branch is broken (http://www.itdemokrati.nu/page80.html)

Thank you

Like to pick this up tomorrow. See it is retrospective and without urgency. Interesting however.