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harish_______
Apr 5, 2011, 02:37 AM
I am loving her for the past six years.. I proposed her in the second year itself. I come across many problems. I tried suicide two times also. She ask me to convert into muslim as she is a muslim girl. I doesn't want to convert but I must marry her. Both of us parents must agree for our marriage. What I must do further.. Can any one help me?I'm waiting for your answer..

smoothy
Apr 5, 2011, 04:30 AM
Don't convert... if she respected you, SHE would convert or respect your choice of religion.

If you change it only gets worse after that.

Personally... I suspect she really isn't the right person to marry.

I think its infatuation... not true love. If she loved you, she would accept you and not demand YOU abandon your faith.

ajwain
Apr 14, 2011, 11:48 AM
Your problem is a tough one but don't EVER risk your precious life for anyone or anything! 6 years is a long time.. now at this stage do you really want to marry her?if yes then try convincing both parents.. if they still r d same you have to decide whether you both r ready to get married against all odds.. or no

melissa7294
Apr 24, 2011, 09:57 AM
Try to convince them without changing your religon
Do some research and explain furthermore to her and her parents.
Seek interesting information about them and expand it with them
Prove you can understand and act like one without changing your identity for anyone.
And as you know, muslims require flowers and confetionary ( good sweets ) to go with you and your parents for the proposal at their home.
The most thing they like is for the man to peel or ask the wife to have fruits or offer tea. It seems cheesy but its just one time ;)

shyladym
May 15, 2011, 01:00 PM
Hi harish. Am sorry to tell you that a muslim girl is not allowed to marry a guy from a different religion. If you love her please try to do some research about islam and I promise you that you will love the religion. I was very sad when I read your story. So I will pray for you that you will get your love insha'allah with the help of allah subhanallah wata'allah! You are not a muslim other wise I could tell you to pray istikhara namaaz and with the help of this namaaz you would have been able to know whether she will be in your destiny or not. Bt anyway gudluck:|

Fr_Chuck
May 15, 2011, 02:07 PM
You and her are not going to marry unless she is willing to go against her family. It is time to be realistic and move on

smoothy
May 15, 2011, 02:14 PM
There never has been, and never will be any woman worth changing your religion for. Because no woman that expects YOU to change for her, rather than she change for you is worth having. And actually no person that has to change at all... is the right person for anyone. There are over 3.5 BILLION women on the earth. There are LOTS that are FAR better than her.

Why doesn't SHE convert to your religion? Ask her... what makes HER so special that SHE can't change? Right... she is a pompous @ss if SHE won't do what she demands you do and not worth having.

shyladym
May 16, 2011, 01:32 AM
Just do what your heart is telling you. Don't listen to anyone.
Go to this website and you will know y she is not allowed to marry a non muslim boy. Gudluck

shyladym
May 16, 2011, 01:37 AM
Interfaith Marriages – Why can?t a Muslim Woman marry a non-Muslim Man? Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny? [55:13] (http://ebrahimsaifuddin.wordpress.com/2006/11/07/interfaith-marriages-why-can%E2%80%99t-a-muslim-woman-marry-a-non-muslim-man/)
Marrying non-Muslims: the legal ruling (http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=2267&CATE=10)
Sorry 4got to write down the URL.

I also found this question on Google

Why can't a Muslim woman marry a non-Muslim man?
Posted byAdministrator on Friday, September 06 @ 17:29:39 AST
Contributed by Administrator

Written By: Shiekh Jasem Al- Mutawa'
Translated By: IslamWay Sisters Team

More than 500 women attended the Swiss Muslim woman conference in Newchatle, Switzerland. The conference addressed some very interesting lectures, one of which was called “understanding psychologies”, another one called “ how did prophet Mohamed Salla Allah Allih Wa Salam handle his marital problems”.

And the conference was concluded with “Round Table”, a special session for discussing the problems facing Muslim families in Switzerland, France, and Italy. Among the attendances, there were Muslim women of Arabic origin, European origin, and new converts.

The conference management was remarkably excellent. A special hall was dedicated to the women who have babies with them. And there were three special places for day care.

The conference duration was just one day, but it was better than a hundred days with its distinctive programs and events. What I noticed most was that, the new the converts, and those who are still thinking about converting to Islam, were facing difficulties in solving their social problems.

One of them said: “I want to convert to Islam, but I don't want to wear hijab”.

A second one said: “you are talking about raising kids in Islam, and I'm a new convert, I don't have the knowledge, or the ability to raise my kids in an Islamic way... so what do I do?”

A third one said: “why is it permissible for a Muslim man to marry a Christian or a Jewish woman, and in the same time, it is forbidden that a Muslim woman marries an infidel?”

A forth one said: “my husband is a political refugee, and we are so busy with our financial problems, we don't have enough time to raise our kids in the proper way”.

After that we started discussing these problems through lectures, and side discussions. In this article, I discuss only one issue, that is, why doesn't Islam treat man, and woman evenly? Islam forbids a Muslim woman from marrying a non-Muslim man, and allows a Muslim man to marry a Christian or a Jewish woman.

During the conversation, I started by explaining that the main principle in Islam is the equality in belief between the husband and his wife. This equality and consistency help in making their marriage successful.

Allowing a Muslim man to marry a Christian or a Jewish woman, is an exceptional rule applied under special circumstances. And when a Muslim man marries a Christian or a Jewish woman, there is no problem, because he believes in all prophets, and all holy books. There will be no problem between him and his wife in this matter, especially that his religion -Islam- commands him to be fair with his wife even if she were Christian or Jewish. And any Muslim man going through such marriage should have strong belief in his faith, and should strongly abide by his religion.

The reason for forbidding a Muslim woman from marrying a non-Muslim, is that a Christian or a Jewish man believes only in his prophet, and doesn't believe in prophet Mohamed Salla Allah Allih Wa Salam or any of the other prophets (blessing be upon them).

For example, when this Muslim woman, tries to teach her kids to love and respect all prophets and believe in all of them, her non-Muslim husband will not agree, because he believes only in his prophet. He will interfere in the way she raises her kids, and prevents her from raising them in an Islamic way. And here comes the real problem, because she will have only two options, whether she leaves the whole thing as it is, and does nothing about it -which will be an insult to her religion- or she argues about the matter, and this will sure lead to more marital problems.

On the other hand, there will be no such problems between a Muslim husband, and a non Muslim wife, because if this wife tried to teach her kids to love and believe in her prophet, her Muslim husband will not refuse that because he already believes in her prophet and all prophets. This is why Islam allows the marriage between Muslim man and non-Muslim woman, and forbids the marriage between Muslim woman, and non-Muslim man. Because Islam respects the marital relationship and wants to guarantee its stability, not because it respects men, and disrespects women …

Discussing these issues with the westerners is so important, so that they get to know Islam better, and understand the logic behind social rules, and issues.

One of the nice stories mentioned in the conference, was a story of a Muslim girl when her school was celebrating Christmas. She was blamed for not celebrating her prophet's birthday as they do. Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala inspired her with a very smart answer. She said to her teachers and her friends, “you believe only in one prophet, but we Muslims, respect and believe in all prophets. If we tried to celebrate all the prophets' birthdays then everyday of the year would be a feast for us.” They were all astounded by her brilliant answer.

??????? (http://www.almutawa.info)

shyladym
May 16, 2011, 01:44 AM
Why a Muslim Woman Is Not Allowed to Marry a Non-Muslim Man | Zawaj.com (http://www.zawaj.com/why-a-muslim-woman-cannot-marry-a-non-muslim/)

Try this 1. sorry 4 posting all of this to you but I want you to be able to make the right dicision as soon as possible. Because I know how you feel.

J_9
May 16, 2011, 04:32 AM
Don't convert....if she respected you, SHE would convert or respect your choice of religion.



If HE respected her, he would convert or respect her choice of religion. This isn't the turn of the century where women have to obey their men! It's a two-way street these days.

NeedKarma
May 16, 2011, 04:38 AM
I bet the answers here would be different if she was asking him to convert to christianity. :)

smoothy
May 16, 2011, 04:52 AM
If HE respected her, he would convert or respect her choice of religion. This isn't the turn of the century where women have to obey their men! It's a two-way street these days.

Keep in mind its HER that's demanding the change in this thread... not him (that's why its worded that way). I'd say the same if it was the other way around as well.

If she (he) can't respect HIS (her) religion... she (he) will never respect him (her). First its his (her) religion... then it will be his (her) family... then his (her) friends... then what next?

That does go both ways, I agree. Nobody should be demanding anyone convert.

smoothy
May 16, 2011, 05:58 AM
I bet the answers here would be different if she was asking him to convert to christianity. :)

Personally... it doesn't matter WHAT either persons religion (or lack thereof) is. If you or they can't accept the other person for who they are and what their beliefs are NOW. Then they shouldn't even think about dating much less marriage.

A persons beliefs are deeply personal, and part of who they are. And nobody should be demanding the other person change theirs when they themselves aren't willing to do the same. And as I have commented on in response to J_9's answer... it goes both ways.

shyladym
May 16, 2011, 07:38 AM
Personally.....it doesn't matter WHAT either persons religion (or lack thereof) is. If you or they can't accept the other person for who they are and what their beliefs are NOW. Then they shouldn't even think about dating much less marriage.

A persons beliefs are deeply personal, and part of who they are. and nobody should be demanding the other person change theirs when they themselves aren't willing to do the same. And as I have commented on in response to J_9's answer...it goes both ways.

In islam it DOES matter what religion your partner is. Actuallt why are WE discussing about religions?

Harish and his girlfriend should decide whether Harish should convert or not! I am telling harish that if he is not going to convert, than he should forget the girl at all.

smoothy
May 16, 2011, 07:52 AM
In islam it DOES matter what religion your partner is. Actuallt y are WE discussing about religions?

Harish and his girlfriend should decide wether Harish should convert or not! I am telling harish that if he is not going to convert, than he should 4get the girl at all.


I don't completely disagree with you. Where I differ is I don't believe anyone should walk away from their own faith (whatever that may be), or their family or friends for another person, at any other persons demand. And he should forget her because of that. Which is not much different than your advice.

Since its HER that has the issue in this thread (AND it is equally true if the roles are reversed) she should be just as willing to convert to another religion as she is to insist HE be the one to convert. How about they BOTH convert to a different one neither is part of now? Like Buddhist... Bahia, etc... take your pick. Or take the "None of the Above" option and become Atheists.

You don't pick someone then demand they change everything to suit your wants... you pick someone that is already what you are looking for.

This is really about a relationship and it could just as easily be some issue other than religion, it could be his choice in humor, his friends, how he likes to dress, what food he likes... anything. And in every case... its the same. You love and accept someone for who and what they are NOW... or find someone else that you will. And this is a REALLY common problem with younger people.


Problem is while religion IS being discussed... this is not the Islam forum. And there ARE other valid viewpoints than just the Muslim one. We don't know what faith he is right now and it really doesn't matter. I'm not taking a pro OR a CON stance on either sides religion. And as of me making this post... its still in the : Family & People > Marriage : forum, in case it ever ends up moved.


Marriage is a partnership... walk into it with one assuming they make ALL the decisions, and ALL the choices... the other person is going to be really, really unhappy in time. And that is true no matter what the faith is... and equally true for Atheists as well.

And trust me... even people in arraigned marriages think that way too, because I know a few people in those. Close friends in fact.

My wife and I aren't of the same faith. And neither of us has asked or expected the other to convert. And in 20 years its never been an issue for either of us.

I do know a few Muslims with non-Muslim spouses that are happily married. And a couple that are married to other Muslims and aren't at all happy. Its not the religion... its the person that determines that. The same argument can be made about the Burqua or just a scarf. I know many Muslim women that refuse to wear them( in fact all of the Muslim women I know don't). They say its NOT required. Its all in who is claiming what they can and can't do.

JudyKayTee
May 16, 2011, 08:06 AM
Why a Muslim Woman Is Not Allowed to Marry a Non-Muslim Man | Zawaj.com (http://www.zawaj.com/why-a-muslim-woman-cannot-marry-a-non-muslim/)

try this 1. sry 4 posting all of this 2 u but i want u to be able to make the right dicision as soon as possible. because i know how u feel.


Please stop using text speak on the adult boards - it is unnecessary and distracting. It is also against the rules of AMHD.

shyladym
May 22, 2011, 01:14 PM
Sorry I didn't know that there were rules about it. I'll keep it in mind ;-)