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mansew
Apr 2, 2011, 12:04 AM
Two men armed with a bat and couldn't tell what other object the other one had entered my son's house going fron room to room lookingn for him

mansew
Apr 2, 2011, 12:16 AM
My son was gone but two men one armed with a bat and the other one armed with an unknown object entered my son's house during the night going from room to room and then barged into my other son's room demanding to know where my other son was at and then left the house. What legal action can they take? The cops said that it is up to the DA whether to issue a warrant. They did get a liscene number from the vehicle.

tickle
Apr 2, 2011, 02:32 AM
And no one called the police ? How do you know it was two men, and how do you know they had a bat? Of course its unlawful to enter a house without permission.

Tick

tickle
Apr 2, 2011, 02:38 AM
Issue a warrant for who? Do you know the men? If no one knows who the men were, how can the police do anything?

Tick

ScottGem
Apr 2, 2011, 04:40 AM
They report it to the police who will investigate. The police will present the case to the DA for prosecution if they find sufficient evidence to identify and capture the perps.

excon
Apr 2, 2011, 05:48 AM
Hello m:

Where I live the cops would throw the perps in JAIL, and then let the DA make his decision... I don't know why your cops are such pu$$y's. I'd call the chief and ask him.

excon

AK lawyer
Apr 2, 2011, 11:01 AM
two men armed with a bat and couldn't tell what other object the other one had entered my son's house going fron room to room lookingn for him

And what do you want to know?

AK lawyer
Apr 2, 2011, 11:08 AM
This is one of those "are we there yet?" situations. The authorities are working on it. Be patient.

I suspect that your son, the one who was not there, has a pretty good idea who these gentlemen are.

Fr_Chuck
Apr 2, 2011, 12:25 PM
So why are they looking for brother ?
How did they get in, did they have a key, did someone give them permission to enter the house, Did they break a door down, break a glass in a window.

Where you in the house when it happened ?

How old are the "boys"

Fr_Chuck
Apr 2, 2011, 12:27 PM
Two separate threads merged

mansew
Apr 3, 2011, 07:47 AM
They live in a rent house while going to college and one son was out with the other roommate while the other was in his room asleep and yes the front door was unlocked. This all stems from a young lady friend. I live over two hours away and will make the trip Monday to go visit with the police dept to see where they are with the case. I feel that the police are lazy because they have not question the peeps yet. The bad thing about all of this is that my younger son that these two peeps were looking for sleeps with a pistol and is majoring in criminal law to become a game warden. This could,ve gotten out of hand real quick and he might have had to live with a bad situation for the rest of his life if he was in his bed when these two punks broke in. My son,s girlfriend identified one of the peeps by a pic on Facebook that I will present to the cops Monday. Every cop where I live at all said the same thing, if the boys had an idea who the peeps were ,they would go pick them up for questioning, I feel like this has not happen yet, I will let y'all know after my visit

mansew
Apr 3, 2011, 07:48 AM
21 and 25

mansew
Apr 3, 2011, 07:54 AM
I'm afraid that the DA won't do anything just like the police maybe they will since my sons girl friend can identified now

ScottGem
Apr 3, 2011, 07:55 AM
Umm "peeps" are little marshmellow chicks. I assume you mean perps.

Frankly, I'm having a real hard time understanding this. You seem to think you know why this happened. But haven't explained that. What are the "sleeps" they were looking for? What does your son wanting to be a Game Warden have anything to do with this?

P.S. Please use the Answer options below for follow-up questions or info, not the Comments.

excon
Apr 3, 2011, 08:00 AM
I live over two hours away and will make the trip Monday to go visit with the police dept to see where they are with the case. I feel that the police are lazy because they have not question the peeps yet.Hello again, m:

If you're having trouble with CLERKS, you DON'T resolve it WITH the clerks. You take it up with their BOSS. That's the CHIEF. If you don't see him, you're whistling Dixie.

I, too, would be interested in the answers to Scotts question.

excon

AK lawyer
Apr 3, 2011, 05:30 PM
... younger son that these two peeps were looking for sleeps with a pistol ... he might of had to live with a bad situation for the rest of his life if he was in his bed when these two punks broke in. ...

How so?
If I happen to have a postol under my pillow when a couple of guys break into my house armed with baseball bats, I wouldn't hesitate for a second. It's called self defense.

Fr_Chuck
Apr 3, 2011, 06:41 PM
Of course why is the front door unlocked, and we still don't know why they are looking for this other person. And of course my opinion of sleeping with a loaded gun is that it shows a real lack of responsible behavior, most likely a girlfriend, or the younger brother is going to be the victim when he is startled one night

mansew
Apr 5, 2011, 10:13 AM
He use to date this girl that this boyfriend now is seeing and we do not know the reason as of yet why they broke or so called walked in. I visited with the police and they questioned the two men and old girlfriend and just about got a full confession and sent it to the DA. He has always wanted to go into some type of law forcement and is trying to get accepted into the game warden academy. I disagree with Chuck's comment on the lack of responsibility having a gun next to his bed. He is licenced to have the gun and that is why I mentioned about the game warden business and that is why he has a gun

AK lawyer
Apr 5, 2011, 10:26 AM
... He is licenced to have the gun and that is why I mentioned about the game warden business and that is why he has a gun

So he is LEO wannabe and that's why he has a gun? :rolleyes:

Please understand, I don't think he need an excuse to own a gun. But the fact that he hopes to be a game warden someday doesn't explain why he thinks he needs it now.

tickle
Apr 5, 2011, 03:44 PM
So he is LEO wannabe and that's why he has a gun? :rolleyes:

Please understand, I don't think he need an excuse to own a gun. But the fact that he hopes to be a game warden someday doesn't explain why he thinks he needs it now.
Yes, that was kind of strange. He wants to be a game warden, so keeps a pistol under his pillow. Game wardens don't carry guns in Ontario; they do however carry a lot of laws and regulations why someone is not licensed to shoot deer or moose out of season.

I have no idea why this thread has gone so long because we are all going around in circles and his dad doesn't really know what he talking about.


Tick

ScottGem
Apr 5, 2011, 04:38 PM
He use to date this girl that this boyfriend now is seeing and we do not know the reason as of yet why they broke or so called walked in. I visited with the police and they questioned the two men and old girlfriend and just about got a full confession and sent it to the DA. He has always wanted to go into some type of law forcement and is trying to get accepted into the game warden academy. I disagree with Chuck's comment on the lack of responsibility having a gun next to his bed. He is licenced to have the gun and that is why I mentioned about the game warden business and that is why he has a gun

First, I asked you to use the Answer options not Comments for followups.

Second, it will help us help you if you try to explain things more fully. You still haven't really explained what happened. What I'm understanding is that two people walked into your son's house and one of them was the boyfriend of his old girlfriend. It is not clear what actually happened while they were in the house.

As to your son having a gun, licensed or not, with good reason or not has absolutely no bearing on this case unless the gun was used during the break-in.

mansew
Apr 6, 2011, 05:52 AM
OK hope this clears it up. The girl called my son last night and this is what she told him. She said that they were at a cook out drinking beer and she was telling them about their relationship when they were dating. She told them that he never would take up for her if someone made a comment about her, so I guess they wanted to show her that they would and we feel that is the reason for the break in. I know that you are not fans of having a gun by the bed,I'm not really a fan either, but that is the profession that he is pursueing and that is the reason he has the gun. I only mentioned it because if he were there when this happened it could've gone bad in a short time. As for your comment Tickle, you might be right about me not knowing what I'm talking about,but you know just as much as I do right now. The police will not comment until it is brought to the DA so they tell me. We heard that the warrant has been issued with a 10m bond tied to it.(This is what the girl said last night) I am supposed to call the Sgt. Today for an update.

mansew
Apr 6, 2011, 06:49 AM
Scott, nothing happened in the house, they went from room to room looking for my youngest and then they opened the one room where my other son was sleeping and started yelling and wanting to know where my youngest was at. The son that was sleeping got up and started towards his door and that was when one of the men started towards him and then he ran back into his room and shut the door until he heard them walk out of the house.

martinizing2
Apr 6, 2011, 08:05 AM
I too sleep with a gun within reach .
I need no other reason than it is my right to do so.

If I am getting this ; the girlfriend seems to have gotten her currant boyfriend all fired up to prove he would stand up for her, because she said your youngest son did not when they were together.

So probably "under the influence" they were going to teach your boy a lesson in defending women by beating him with a bat and other unknown object.

So they went to his house walked in and searched for him , without permission to enter.

If this is close to correct they should be in jail for B&E at least.

Had this happened at my home they would have been in a mortuary .
When an armed stranger walks into your home you have the right to defend yourself and anyone there.

And a bat is no match for a Desert Eagle .50 cal.

mansew
Apr 6, 2011, 11:41 AM
Thank you Martinizing2 I spoke with the DA today and spounds like they are on top of everything