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KimberCareBear
Feb 2, 2011, 03:06 PM
Please read my whole post before passing judgement... Sorry I know it's long but I'm a detail oriented person.

So here's my situation... Boyfriend of almost 2 years is in jail, no idea when he's getting out. Got kicked out of our apartment, and had to move back in with my parents. (Very emotionally unhealthy for me with psycho mom.) Now we're in debt, and working 30 hours with 2 lousy minimum wage jobs is taking a toll. I don't feel like I'm getting anywhere even though I work my *** off. My boyfriend moved here for me from out of state, and he wants to be a welder, and he's damn good at it. So before he went to jail he was taking more than full time college to get his certificate, and I have every intention of making him go back instead of doing part time school to get a lousy job like mine to keep us living because he feel like he's not being a full man if he's not supporting me. (And in my area, jobs are in very, very high demand) That means I made the choice to put aside my dreams and ambitions of going to school and becoming a tattoo artist to support us, something I've been talking about for years. The issue- no time with work, and not enough money. We just scrape by, and there's never any money for us to go out places and have fun, and unfortunately our relationship suffers from it when we spend night after night after night at home. It's very stressful. And I feel like we deserve to live better and not have to eat top ramen once a day and watch a movie every night until our careers start making us money to live off comfortably of instead of just my minimum wage jobs that suck.

I've been considering dancing as a temporary job, because if I was good, I could walk away with more than $1000 on a good night, and not have to do anything that crosses the boundaries we would set. I know that in many relationships, this would be an awful idea because of the trust issues it would cause, and I've read a lot of stuff that says you can't expect a normal relationship with a "stripper" for many reasons. But I don't feel like I'm like that.
What I'm like: I am an incredibly faithful person, I seriously NEVER flirt, or lead guys on in any way. I have an amazing boyfriend and I want to be with him until we're old and withered. He used to be an insanely jealous person, but isn't anymore, and I think that's because he's finally got a girlfriend that he can actually trust. I'm actually mostly bisexual and have little interest in men, no matter how hot they think they are. I like women much more, but I would never even consider cheating on him. We have a healthy sexual relationship where he'll just let me make out with attractive women on occasion because he trusts me. I would never abuse it. I think that stripping is job that makes women into objects, but that's kind of the point. It's selling sex appeal and in a good club, neither the dancer nor the client is going to think of it otherwise. My boyfriend and I think strip clubs are pretty harmless. And I've read that most of the women that work there are just normal women with husbands, boyfriends, kids, and have financial trouble. There's always the ones that are just in it for the ego boost or the money or whatnot too. But I'm not one of them.

What my boundaries and safety precautions would be: There are lots of clubs in my city. Some trashy where dancers rubbing their tits on your face and dry humping you or worse during lap dances is probably the norm. And then there are classier places where there are strict "no touching" rules that are enforced, but there is still contact anyway. Ultimately it's up to the dancer to keep the rules, but I think a lot has to do with the club these girls work at.
I would take one of our older male friends to case out the classier clubs in my area, and ask them important questions like about their bouncers, rules of contact with clients, and if and when their dancers are expected to be fully naked. And I would talk at least one dancer there too to get a feel for what kind of a place it is.
I can handle being completely naked a couple times a night for a minute on stage if need be. I would not be OK with being completely naked for a lap dance, no amount of money could make me show my crotch to a creepy guy that isn't at least a stage length away. I wouldn't do anything that I wouldn't be OK with my boyfriend having done to him while getting a lap dance. I feel like if my boyfriend could trust me to follow that rule then it wouldn't be too bad. Even if people offered me a lot more money to do something that crossed my boundaries I wouldn't do it, I don't care if I wouldn't make as much money as the other girls. I would be in it for the money but I can still have dignity and self respect and choose who and what happens during a lap dance.
I know that I would be able to think of it just as a job, I wouldn't be genuinely interested in the guys I would flirt with, ever. I think I would be able to get over the fact that I'm exposing myself, if my boyfriend could get over it too. I feel like the chance to jump start our lives up to speed again is probably worth it. Yes it's an "easy" way out in some people's opinion, but it would be challenging and the money would be rewarding. I don't want to hurt my boyfriend though. I know it would hurt quite a bit probably at first, but the question is if he would be able to get over that other guys would see my body. Yes it does make me feel guilty, but I want to get on with our lives.

I guess what my main question is, do you think my logic is genuinely twisted? I want to know if I'm crazy for even considering this. Sometimes I feel like I am. But the big bonuses, it feels like they could be worth it.

joypulv
Feb 2, 2011, 03:16 PM
One key question first: is he in jail or out? You say he is in, then talk about him as though he is out. I would think twice, three times, about stripping while he's in there thinking about you. Also, how is it you don't know how long he'll be in? Is he still waiting trial?

KimberCareBear
Feb 2, 2011, 03:19 PM
He is currently in jail :( I can't even talk to him for the next month and a half either because I was arrested too. He's still waiting for his trial on March 11, he could come home or be in there for a long time, too early to tell.

Oh and I don't intend on making any kind of decision until I can talk to him face to face.

Fr_Chuck
Feb 2, 2011, 08:17 PM
First from the business side, if you have never done this before, can you even get hired at the more "up scale" places.

And leading men on is how you make the bigger money.
Also what your friend can not tell you, is what cut of the tips the house will take, do you get a cut from the drinks, or at least from your drink.

joypulv
Feb 2, 2011, 09:08 PM
Then there's the risk. No matter how classy the place, you can run into crazies and stalkers, or demands from management (not necessarily owners) for special favors for clients or for moving drugs, or get caught in a drug raid or sting, or get mugged on the way to your car at 2 in the morning. If you are on probation, you have to be careful, not just with the PO, but with people who know they can use you because of it. If your boyfriend gets in a fight with some guy who won't let you get to your car, he could end up back in jail. The list goes on. But you probably know all this...

KimberCareBear
Feb 2, 2011, 09:39 PM
To Chuck,
I have been doing research about the clubs in my area, and there are a whole lot of them. I am not going to pretend like I am an experienced or talented pole dancer that can do the splits or do acrobatics on the pole, but I am very confident in my dancing abilities. I think I will be able to audition and get a job at a place I like. My friends tell me that I am a good dancer, and that I have my own unique style that's very flowy and attractive, and when I'm in my room it's very easy to make it look sexy.
I'm not being conceited or anything, but I think I have the right looks and personality to do good in the business. I know clubs like a veriety of women, and most of them aren't super models. My face is very classy and beautiful, and I don't wear makeup like eye liner, blush, lip stick, thick coverup, or any of that, I look better without it. I'm short, '5 "3, and lost a lost of weight because of depression with my boyfriend being in jail so I weigh 105 lbs. now. Honestly I think I look too skinny now so I'm working out to get toned for my boyfriend because I know he's been working out a lot in jail and I want to surprise him with my awesome body. :) Maybe that was too much info, I don't know lol. I have C cups, girls tell me I have amazing boobs all the time, we used to be into some things so you haha. And am not a pole I have nice hips and legs. I feel like I'm going into too much detail about what I look like but I guess I'm just trying to boost my confidence. I think I could get a job at a classy place, but probably not the very best ones. I would try for a nice places, and if I couldn't get into one I wouldn't do it.

KimberCareBear
Feb 2, 2011, 09:59 PM
To Joypulv,
I hadn't even considered if I was put on probation, thanks for the reminder.
Not saying that shady stuff like that doesn't happen, but I'm a strong willed person who can stand up for myself. I'm not afraid to put people in their place (at first nicely if it was pretty innocent, and then more direct, and then I wouldn't even bother with them especially if they were drunk or creepy). Drunk people are my biggest fear, because I bet some of the guys get excited and want to see if they can push their boundaries. I haven't thought that one all the way through yet either. I have to think about how it would effect me, and my boyfriend to have drunken guys get too friendly. Honestly though I don't know how bad it gets or how often because I've never seen it happen or personally know any strippers.
I can stay out of drugs hard drugs just fine, and I don't really like drinking alcohol, I'm under 21 so I can't drink legally anyway.
I would pick a club with bouncers that look out for the girls by walking them to their car or taxi, and walk around the club to watch for inappropriate things that the clients or dancers do. I would like to get hired at one of these ones optimally if I decided to go for it later on down the road.

answerme_tender
Feb 3, 2011, 01:06 PM
Well at my age I am going to play devil advocate here.

First: I don't care what you boyfriend says about your stripping, his jealousy will get the best of him. Or should I say his imagination could start playing tricks on him. The money might sound good to him in the beginning, but boy let him think or even if he gets out see's another man making goo-goo eye's at his girlfriend all those macho man feelings are going to come to a head!!

Second: I appreciate that you advise that you are blunt-upfront woman, and have no fear to say it the way it is. But, unfortuantely until you actually get into dancing in a club will you really see what happens behind the scenes. You might be the toughtest 5ft 3inch 103lb woman there is, but remember at your size there is a hugh chance that someone who is a lot bigger is not going to take NO for answer rather it be sexually, distributing drugs, or giving bigger cut of your tips!! To be honest I am more concerned that you would not see or hear someone come up behind you while entering or leaving the club. There is only a small hair string between freaky and being an out and out preverted monster willing to do whatever it takes to get what he wants.

Take care