View Full Version : Trust the pharma industry?
QLP
Jan 23, 2011, 09:07 AM
Alliance for Human Research Protection - 1991-2010 Enormous Scale of Pharma Criminal Fraud Settlements (http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/744/9/)
YouTube - Bad Medicine: The Glaxo Case (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJh9o-MCPXw)
excon
Jan 23, 2011, 09:17 AM
Hello Q:
What you observe is a direct result of DEREGULATION. There needs to be RULES, and TOUGH regulators on the beat.
excon
tomder55
Jan 23, 2011, 09:55 AM
If there was a lack of regulation and enforcement ,how do you account for all those criminal cases and settlements of violations of the False Claims Act (FCA) ?
excon
Jan 23, 2011, 10:04 AM
Hello tom:
The key isn't the cases they made, but the ones they DIDN'T. Letting Big Pharma screw us over, as Q points out, is one of them...
The idea behind us paying the HIGH COST of our MEDICINE, is the guarantee that our MEDICINE is PURE... But, if Big Pharma is going to act like a third world enterprise, we should be paying third world prices...
excon
tomder55
Jan 23, 2011, 10:22 AM
No problem . Shut down the domestic pharmaceutical industry and import medicines from China .
excon
Jan 23, 2011, 10:50 AM
no problem . Shut down the domestic pharmaceutical industry and import medicines from China .Hello again, tom:
Wow! Your right wing knee jerked... Clearly, you believe that any attempt to REGULATE an industry, is an attempt to shut it down... Sounds like Glenn Beck paranoia, to me.
We need RULES. You LIKE rules, too, as long as they have to do with my PERSONAL life. But, rules for business?? Nahhh... DUDE!
By the way, the problem Q pointed out isn't with our DOMESTIC industry. It's when our DOMESTIC industry was shipped overseas... Evidently our DOMESTIC wages were too high to pay... But our DOMESTIC prices weren't too much to charge... DUDE!
excon
cdad
Jan 23, 2011, 11:04 AM
Purity didn't seem to be the problem as much as overcharging the government and trying to maintain a monopoly. That is what triggered most of the fines.
QLP
Jan 23, 2011, 12:08 PM
Purity didnt seem to be the problem as much as overcharging the government and trying to maintain a monopoly. That is what triggered most of the fines.
PharmaGossip: Glaxo to pay out $750m over impure drugs lawsuit - The Independent (http://pharmagossip.blogspot.com/2010/10/glaxo-to-pay-out-750m-over-impure-drugs.html)
Cholesterol Lowering Drug Side Effects, Danger of Lipitor, the Cholesterol Lowering Drug (http://www.thepeopleschemist.com/view_stinky.php?stinky_id=4)
tomder55
Jan 24, 2011, 04:36 AM
By the way, the problem Q pointed out isn't with our DOMESTIC industry. It's when our DOMESTIC industry was shipped overseas
And GSK is a Brit company . Yes it's our FDA that did the investigation . The plant was in Puerto Rico which is subject to our laws.
That is one of the reasons they slashed 4000 jobs... mostly from North America. By the way Glaxo shut down the Cidra PR plant in 2009 .60 Minutes' interview with Cheryl Eckard (who deservedly got a lot of the settlement money because she was wrongfully canned ) was... umm.. timely .
QLP
Jan 24, 2011, 04:56 AM
It's by no means a problem only over there in the USA. Governements around the world are playing monkey to the great organ grinder of big pharma.
Controversy over vaccine trial files | Irish Examiner (http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/controversy-over-vaccine-trial-files-142986.html)