Log in

View Full Version : Stay classy Rand Paul supporters!


spitvenom
Oct 26, 2010, 06:21 AM
Raw Video: Rand Paul supporter stomps protester (http://news.yahoo.com/video/politics-15749652/22639340)

NeedKarma
Oct 26, 2010, 06:32 AM
Yep, that's making the news around here also.

tomder55
Oct 26, 2010, 06:57 AM
Nasty .An assault report was filed but there have been no arrests. I expect there will be.
Also at the rally a Paul supporter who recently had foot surgury was assaulted by a Conway supporter and had her surgical incision opened. She also has filed charges.
So what happened ? There were 2 fights at the debate of a heated political campaign.
Come on man! How many incidents like this happen at a Phillies or Eagles game ?

spitvenom
Oct 26, 2010, 07:06 AM
So you are saying it is OK for people to have their head and feet stomped on at a debate because drunks do it at sporting events?

tomder55
Oct 26, 2010, 07:10 AM
... not at all . I'm just saying it happens at gatherings of passionate people. Ever see one of those South Korean parliament sessions ? I hope I don't have to cite all the times in our history that our leaders got violent with each other .

excon
Oct 26, 2010, 07:14 AM
Stay classy Rand Paul supportersHello spit:

A contradiction in terms if I've ever heard one.

excon

spitvenom
Oct 26, 2010, 07:14 AM
I am passionate when I go to a sixers game or phillies game (I don't go to eagles games) and not once have I ever hurt anyone. It is a disgrace for ANYONE to behave like this. Big man kicking a woman when she is down.

speechlesstx
Oct 26, 2010, 07:18 AM
That was ugly and stupid.

P.S. I don't go to Eagles games any more either. I don't want to be assaulted, spit on, cursed out, have beer spilled on me or otherwise be around Eagles fans. I may not want to go to Cowboys games either, they suck so bad. Congrats to the Gnats.

tomder55
Oct 26, 2010, 07:22 AM
I am passionate when I go to a sixers game or phillies game (I don't go to eagles games) and not once have I ever hurt anyone. It is a disgrace for ANYONE to behave like this. Big man kicking a woman when she is down.



Agreed . But do you think it says anything at all about the candidate ? No . I've seen emotions erupt at village meetings over issue much more insignificant than the ones being debated .

I also could say that the Move-on women was trying to provoke a response by attempting to give Rand Paul the silly plaque . But of course the guy assaulting her should be charged.

excon
Oct 26, 2010, 07:34 AM
But do you think it says anything at all about the candidate ?Hello again, tom:

Yes, I do. Just like I think the arrest of the reporter says a lot about Joe Miller. Just like I think the misbehavior of our troops says a lot about George W. Bush. The policies of these people give tacit approval for their minions to ACT the way they do.. I was a sailor. My men would NEVER have behaved the way George Bush's troops did IF they DIDN'T have "permission" from the top.

If somebody gets shot at a Sharron Angle rally, I'll blame HER too. She believes that if you don't get your way, SHOOT. Certainly, her supporters do too.

excon

tomder55
Oct 26, 2010, 07:40 AM
Yeah Yeah... I get it . Rand Paul is Willie Stark and all his supporters are unsophisticated hayseeds who when they aren't beating up Move-on women are sittlng at home with the cousin they married ,clinging to their guns and religion ,and drinking moonshine.

excon
Oct 26, 2010, 08:01 AM
Hello again, tom:

Nailed it! This IS West Virginia we're talking about here.

excon

speechlesstx
Oct 26, 2010, 09:34 AM
Hello again, tom:

Nailed it! This IS West Virginia we're talking about here.

excon

I thought it was Kentucky.

excon
Oct 26, 2010, 09:37 AM
I thought it was Kentucky.Hello again, Steve:

Ok.

excon

cdad
Oct 26, 2010, 01:17 PM
What was she saying before all this took place? Anything can look bad if its done right.

excon
Oct 26, 2010, 01:28 PM
What was she saying before all this took place? Anything can look bad if its done right.Hello dad:

As a respected member of the law board, you should know that it makes NO difference WHAT she was saying. Sticks and stones and all that stuff...

I don't know. Doesn't anybody in the Tea Party think it's uncouth to hit a woman no matter WHAT she says?? Are they THAT out of touch?

excon

cdad
Oct 26, 2010, 01:31 PM
Hello dad:

As a respected member of the law board, you should know that it makes NO difference WHAT she was saying. Sticks and stones and all that stuff. I dunno. Doesn't anybody in the Tea Party think it's uncouth to hit a woman no matter WHAT she says???? Are they THAT out of touch?

excon

I was just asking. And yes it does matter what was said beforehand. Im not saying what we saw on the video was right at all. But there are nutjobs cropping up everywhere lately. I was just curious.

spitvenom
Oct 26, 2010, 01:40 PM
Califdadof3 I copied this from cbsnews (it was the first link that came up)
The woman, Lauren Valle, is affiliated with the liberal group MoveOn.org. As the Louisville Courier Journal reports, she said later she was trying to give Paul a satiric award from "RepubliCorp," which was meant to sarcastically thank Paul for merging political speech and the interests of big business. She was trying to get her picture taken with him while presenting the award.

cdad
Oct 26, 2010, 01:52 PM
Califdadof3 I copied this from cbsnews (it was the first link that came up)
The woman, Lauren Valle, is affiliated with the liberal group MoveOn.org. As the Louisville Courier Journal reports, she said later she was trying to give Paul a satiric award from "RepubliCorp," which was meant to sarcastically thank Paul for merging political speech and the interests of big business. She was trying to get her picture taken with him while presenting the award.

I saw that too when I followed up on it. To me that's a dangerous thing to be doing. When your wearing a wig and trying to be saterical at a function such as that. People get nervous when they are focused on by strangers.

Doesn't justify it Im just saying.

excon
Oct 26, 2010, 02:03 PM
To me thats a dangerous thing to be doing.

Doesnt justify it Im just saying.Hello again, dad:

It's true. Political action IS dangerous. Shortly after I returned from Vietnam, and was still very much a supporter of that war, I went to an anti war march - NOT to march, but to see just who those hippies were. I wore my uniform, and was standing on the curb when the riot broke out. Didn't matter to the cops. They STILL beat me with their night sticks...

Not long after, I gave up my support for that war.

excon

cdad
Oct 26, 2010, 02:08 PM
Hello again, dad:

It's true. Political action IS dangerous. Shortly after I returned from Vietnam, and was still very much a supporter of that war, I went to an anti war march - NOT to march, but to see just who those hippies were. I wore my uniform, and was standing on the curb when the riot broke out. Didn't matter to the cops. They STILL beat me with their night sticks...

Not long after, I gave up my support for that war.

excon

Im sorry you had to go through that. Many veterans from that war weren't treated as they should have been.

On a side not: If you were attending a rally for someone you support and a person comes rushing from the crowd towards your candidate. I think alarms would start going off in your head.

excon
Oct 26, 2010, 02:16 PM
If you were attending a rally for someone you support and a person comes rushing from the crowd towards your candidate. I think alarms would start going off in your head.Hello again, dad:

Oh, I UNDERSTAND vigilantism. That's why I don't go to those events. I'm subject to throw things.

excon

smoothy
Oct 26, 2010, 04:23 PM
Idiots on the lefty propaganda stations that call themselves NETWORK stations are claiming her head was stomped on when its abundently clear it was her shoulder in the very videos they were playing... and they ignore the fact she is a left wing whack job that goes globetrotting getting in trouble... No innocent victim that witch is. She got EXACTLY what she went trying to find, she went to cause trouble... and she found it from people not afraid of her worthless kind.. Personally she should have REALLY gotten seroiusly stomped...

excon
Oct 26, 2010, 04:43 PM
The law is the law....how do you think you became an excon? Seriously. Didn't learn anything from that?
Personally she should have REALLY gotten seroiusly stomped...Hello again, smoothy:

Spoken like a true Tea Partier, a real gentleman, and the person who just told me the law is the law. Dude!

excon

smoothy
Oct 26, 2010, 04:49 PM
That *itch is no innocent, nice person... she is a well known and documented troublemaker... she deserved getting her butt kicked by people exercizing THEIR free speech rights, you know.. exactly like Greenpeace does... you did know she was part of that group? Got anything to say about their tactics?

Oh... you mean like Liberals treat Obama Protesters?

Man Arrested For Holding ?Impeach Obama? Sign >> Four Winds 10 - fourwinds10.com (http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/law_enforcement_and_police/news.php?q=1283100650) So much for freedom of speech when the Messiah is involved as the target.

excon
Oct 26, 2010, 04:58 PM
Oh...you mean like Liberals treat Obama Protesters?Hello again, smoothy:

The reason you LOSE arguments is because you think beating the sh*t out of a woman cause she carried a sign, is equivalent to some guy being arrested cause he carried a sign... You're sense of BALANCE is wayyy out of whack.. But, that's how you Tea Partiers are. I'm used to it.

excon

tomder55
Oct 26, 2010, 04:59 PM
Yeah it isn't no big thing someone rushing a candidate or shoving a camera in their face...

But I remember a day in 1968 when Bobby Kennedy was trying to leave the hall after winning the California primary.. and was being jostled by attendees...

Nuff said .

smoothy
Oct 26, 2010, 05:21 PM
yeah it aint no big thing someone rushing a candidate or shoving a camera in their face ....

But I remember a day in 1968 when Bobby Kennedy was trying to leave the hall after winning the California primary ..and was being jostled by attendees .......

nuff said .Exactly... but ex will argue that's a talking point...

smoothy
Oct 26, 2010, 05:23 PM
Hello again, smoothy:

The reason you LOSE arguments is because you think beating the sh*t out of a woman cause she carried a sign, is equivalent to some guy being arrested cause he carried a sign.... You're sense of BALANCE is wayyy out of whack.. But, that's how you Tea Partiers are. I'm used to it.

excon

Liberals try to change the topic when they are caught... like the arrest of the Obama protestor who very much UNLIKE this nutcase woman at the Rand Paul event... was doing nothing threatening.
And unlike the typical lies the left wing media contantly spews with Democrat Propaganda... the video shows nobody ever stepped on her head... Not even her neck... the video clearly shows the shoulder after she rushed a Political Candidtate in disguise... but the Democrats don't care about facts when they can just lie and despite video evidence of the contrary.. will believe like sheeple just what they are told to believe by their handlers.

excon
Oct 26, 2010, 05:26 PM
Exactly.....but ex will argue thats a talking point...Hello again, smoothy:

No. That's an argument, and a good one too. If only you could tell the difference??

excon

smoothy
Oct 26, 2010, 05:29 PM
Hello again, smoothy:

No. That's an argument, and a good one too. If only you could tell the difference???

exconOh its clear... if YOU say it, its an argument... If I say it then it's a talking point...


What did I get wrong about that?

excon
Oct 26, 2010, 05:48 PM
What did I get wrong about that?Hello again, smoothy:

Ok, I'll give this a shot. Anything tom says that RELATES to the discussion at hand, IS an argument.. Anything tom says that has NOTHING to do with the discussion at hand, but is instead, a general put down of his opponents SIDE is a talking point.

excon

tomder55
Oct 27, 2010, 02:37 AM
I've often been accused of "liberally" engaging in both.

smoothy
Oct 27, 2010, 04:38 AM
Hello again, smoothy:

Ok, I'll give this a shot. Anything tom says that RELATES to the discussion at hand, IS an argument.. Anything tom says that has NOTHING to do with the discussion at hand, but is instead, a general put down of his opponents SIDE is a talking point.

exconAnd that differs from much of your posts exactly how?

excon
Oct 27, 2010, 05:05 AM
And that differs from much of your posts exactly how?Hello again, smoothy:

I'm sorry you don't pay more attention... It COULD be a good discussion if you did. The facts are, that tom, Steve and I relate with each other totally DIFFERENT than you and I do. The difference is OBVIOUS, but NOT to you. I can't teach you how to argue here. I've tried. It doesn't work. You just don't know how to do it, and you're not willing to learn.

I know that WHATEVER I say here, you're going to HEAR something different... But, let me ask you this? Do you notice that when you and I get into things, tom and Steve DON'T come to your rescue?? Do you wonder WHY?? I don't. Do you wonder WHY the arguments I have with tom and Steve DON'T devolve into these shouting matches?? I don't.

It's because we do it substantially DIFFERENT than you and I do, and you're unable to see the distinction. I don't know why. It's been pointed out to you time and time again, but you don't/cant get it. Bummer. No, really. It's a BUMMER, because I LOVE to argue, and I can't with you.

Tom and Steve watch you and me from the sidelines.. They don't say anything. Now, might be good time for them to weigh in...

excon

tomder55
Oct 27, 2010, 05:37 AM
Now, might be good time for them to weigh in...
I don't questions someone's stated credentials for starters .
I have no reason to think Ex did not serve the country and have no reason to dispute his contention that he holds security clearance. I know of people who kept them well after their military service was through . So that part was a pretty pointless exchange.

I'll just say that after a certain point there is a futility in engaging in debates that devolve into endless regurgitation of things previously stated ,and personal comments against the opponent in the exchange. I generally bow out at that point and leave the counterpoint unchallenged . Anyone reading the exchange should be able to divine why .

spitvenom
Oct 27, 2010, 05:48 AM
Here is what I think is funny Tom makes a big deal about two guys (I believe Thugs was the word he used) one with a baton who harmed no at a polling location. But when a tea bagger stomps on a lady's shoulder THEN head (and YES his foot was on her head watch the video again tea bagger smooth) it was passion's running high. Who are the real Thugs here!

tomder55
Oct 27, 2010, 05:57 AM
Spit . I think I made the distinction in my Bobby Kennedy comment .

In the case of the NBP thugs ,they were intimidating voters going into a polling place. (and here I thought voters rights were a liberal cause )

In the Rand Paul case ,the women was approaching the candidate looking for a reaction I believe that is similar to what transpired . I found out the "teabagger" was in some way associated with the Paul campaign and had reacted to what he thought was a security risk. He went way over the line with the stomp ,and if you read my earlier comments on this op ,I made it very clear that I though he should be charged .

Now let's go back to the example I gave of the Phillies and Eagles games. What do you suppose happens to a fan ,who runs out onto the field of play ,by the security personel ? It isn't pretty .They generally do their theraputic massaging where no cell phones are present .

smoothy
Oct 27, 2010, 06:00 AM
Hello again, smoothy:

I'm sorry you don't pay more attention... It COULD be a good discussion if you did. The facts are, that tom, Steve and I relate with each other totally DIFFERENT than you and I do. The difference is OBVIOUS, but NOT to you. I can't teach you how to argue here. I've tried. It doesn't work. You just don't know how to do it, and you're not willing to learn.

I know that WHATEVER I say here, you're going to HEAR something different... But, lemme ask you this? Do you notice that when you and I get into things, tom and Steve DON'T come to your rescue???? Do you wonder WHY??? I don't. Do you wonder WHY the arguments I have with tom and Steve DON'T devolve into these shouting matches???? I don't.

It's because we do it substantially DIFFERENT than you and I do, and you're unable to see the distinction. I dunno why. It's been pointed out to you time and time again, but you don't/cant get it. Bummer. No, really. It's a BUMMER, because I LOVE to argue, and I can't with you.

Tom and Steve watch you and me from the sidelines.. They don't say anything. Now, might be good time for them to weigh in...

exconI am not asking Tom and Steve to come to my aid... nor do I care if they do or not... its up to them.

You have a pretty distorted view of things... you just can't stand when someone doesn't buy into your perspective.

I have seen things first hand from a perspective NONE of you have... and many times I really can't go into why and how I do. Not because I would'n't like to... but because I can't and won't get into trouble to attempt to satisfy someone who can't see the forrest for the trees.

The problem is YOU have two sets of standards... one you follow... and another for everyone else that doesn't agree with you. You know if YOU held your own side to the same standards you expect my side to meet... you would find far less issues exist.

NeedKarma
Oct 27, 2010, 06:02 AM
I have seen things first hand from a perspective NONE of you have....and many times I really can't go into why and how I do. Not because I would'n't like to....but because I can't and won't get into trouble That's what I normally hear on the internet from someone who rarely leaves their house.

smoothy
Oct 27, 2010, 06:08 AM
That's what I normally hear on the internet from someone who rarely leaves their house.

As opposed to someone who has been in over half the Embassies in DC and is on a first name basis in many of those, and most Federal buildings here? And NOT the lobbies.

excon
Oct 27, 2010, 06:12 AM
I have seen things first hand from a perspective NONE of you have.....Hello again, smoothy:

You know what?? It's statements like this that diminish your credibility. You have NO IDEA who you're addressing, yet you have the balls to QUESTION their background, all the while touting your own. You can't WIN an argument by "arguing" it. You simply say, trust me, I know things you don't. And, that's supposed to shut us up. How old are you, 12??

Dude!

I'm done with you.

excon

smoothy
Oct 27, 2010, 06:26 AM
Hello again, smoothy:

You know what??? It's statements like this that diminish your credibility. You have NO IDEA who you're addressing, yet you have the balls to QUESTION their background, all the while touting your own. You can't WIN an argument by "arguing" it. You simply say, trust me, I know things you don't. And, that's supposed to shut us up. How old are you, 12???

Dude!

I'm done with you.

excon

Yeah... Mr. West coast Democrat . Knows weverything... authorities on all topics... Likely never even been in a government facility since leaving the military... and even then only where the public goes dealing only with those who deal with the public...

How old are you. 6? Grow up man... YOU don't have a clue as to what I actually do... where I have actually worked... what I have actually done the last 30 years... yet YOU are the one here making assertations that I know nothing and YOU know everything...

The Country does not revolve around what is happening on the West Coast... nor does the country as a whole share your west coast values.


YOU got caught in a lie where you stated in a thread YOU had a current Clearance... then many posts later you said it was over 35 years ago... a piddly Secret clearance in the Army doesn't make you a damn expert on clearances. And classified material, much less what the repercussions are and should be.

If you actually had a clue... you would have a passing grasp as to why some things can not be said... some things can not be detailed... but then of course... anything that is spewed from a left wing Media that originates from the Messiah is completely beyond reproach much less doubt.

Heaven forbid you ever once... admit to being wrong about anything...

Look at your own posts... you can not Ever be questioned... you are perfect... you know everything. Nobody merits questioning anything you ever post...

That's where we differ... I don't believe everything I see on the news... because I've actually seen many things before they have put their spin on it... You just take their word for it because a liberal news reporter would to a democrat... never lie, or twist the facts... and refuse to accept it when proof of it is provided.

Dan Rather Got caught... Katie Curic Does it too... The did it to Sarah Palin... over and over again... while giving a free ride to Michele Obama even when she is CAUGHT electioneering a polling place against the law...


Want to talk hypocrisy... take a look in the mirror... try acting to the same standards yourself that you are demanding others do. And try demanding your political party do the same. I saw more honesty out of Pravda during the USSR period than from the Democrat party in general today. And that wasn't much.

spitvenom
Oct 27, 2010, 07:23 AM
A side from the ONE time someone got tased. What happens is they go to the built in holding cell in the stadium and then to the judge who also has a court room built in the stadium and they are processed according to the law all before the 4th qtr or 9th inning

tomder55
Oct 27, 2010, 07:59 AM
Yes that is what you know officially happens .But I bet there are no camera's recording what happens from the field to the judge's chambers . I guarantee there is no sympathy for the trespasser . All they have to do is view video of the Monica Seles stabbing or the Nancy Kerrigan attack to understand the implications . I have heard stories of Meadowland guards who are proficient with the theraputic massage. I hear Vegas security people are good at it too.

spitvenom
Oct 27, 2010, 08:21 AM
I can tell you without doubt when my jackass uncle ran onto the field at the old Veterans stadium he didn't get roughed up. They cuffed him threw him in the cell went to the judge and then was released.

tomder55
Oct 27, 2010, 08:33 AM
So you don't understand then why security guards would take whatever step is necessary to protect the person they are hired to protect ? The stomp was excessive and should be treated as such. But everything that happened before was reasonable regardless of the gender of the person. Does anyone recall the gender of the would-be assassins of Gerald Ford ?

smoothy
Oct 27, 2010, 11:16 AM
. Does anyone recall the gender of the would-be assassins of Gerald Ford ?Yes... I remember the event, from when it happened (tv... no I wasn't there)... I also remember the name... without having to Google it. Lets see who else can...

spitvenom
Oct 27, 2010, 11:27 AM
Only problem is Tom HE WASN'T A SECURITY GUARD!! He was simply a volunteer. Gerry Ford was before my time old guys :p

smoothy
Oct 27, 2010, 12:08 PM
I was in the 9th grade during the time of the assassination attempt(s) on Ford, there was two, September 5, 1975 as well as September 22, 1975, both by left wing whack job Californian women. I was old enough to remember it on the news.

You don't HAVE to be a security guard or a Cop to stop what you believe is apparently a crime attempt. Happens quite often in fact. Sure some people sit back and watch... others take action.

spitvenom
Oct 28, 2010, 09:40 AM
1975 I wasn't even sperm yet! But there was no crime being committed. You know what they say about people who assume.

tomder55
Oct 28, 2010, 10:19 AM
Only problem is Tom HE WASN'T A SECURITY GUARD!! He was simply a volunteer. Gerry Ford was before my time old guys :p

LA RAM lineman Rosie Grier ,Rafer Johnson, an Olympic champion ,and author George Plimpton were volunteers working for the Bobby Kennedy campaign the night he was assassinated . They helped take down Sirhan Sirhan after he murdered Kennedy.

I'll stick to my assertion

The stomp was excessive and should be treated as such. But everything that happened before was reasonable regardless of the gender of the person.
New video shows she was shoving her prop into Paul's SUV before he even had a chance to get out. She was pushed away and persisted in her attempts to get in his face. (Remember... that is what the President advised his supporters to do.
YouTube - Obama Says "Argue With Neighbors, Get In Their Face" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCMDur9CDZ4) )
Laura Valle got what she wanted anyway. She is a veteran cast member in the street theater of the absurd.


By the way ;when Sarah Jane Moore tried to assassinate Ford ,a disabled Marine Oliver Sipple stopped the attempt. Squeeky Fromm ,a Charles Manson follower also tried to kill him. For her attempt she dressed up like a nun. Laura Valle was also disguised from the reports I've read. I'd wager you would know of these attempts on Ford's life if they had succeeded .

spitvenom
Oct 28, 2010, 11:42 AM
Yes obama did say argue with them and get in their face. But nothing about stepping on their face (yes I know it wasn't her face)

slapshot_oi
Oct 29, 2010, 06:17 AM
Kentucky Stomper Wants An Apology From Woman He Assaulted (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/kentucky-stomper-wants-an-apology-from-woman-he-assaulted.php)

Lol.. . Sorry but this is so shameless and brazen that I have to laugh.

excon
Oct 29, 2010, 06:25 AM
Hello again slap,

Do you know what's MORE shameless than that?? Rand Paul is going to win.

excon

speechlesstx
Oct 29, 2010, 07:02 AM
Hello again slap,

Do you know what's MORE shameless than that???? Rand Paul is going to win.

And taking this to its 'logical' conclusion means Kentuckians are nothing but a bunch of jackbooted thugs and Paul is their Hitler.

excon
Oct 29, 2010, 07:21 AM
And taking this to its 'logical' conclusion means Kentuckians are nothing but a bunch of jackbooted thugs and Paul is their Hitler.Hello Steve:

I didn't use those words. In fact, nobody did. But if Kentuckians don't throw Paul under the bus, they SUPPORT the despicable behavior exhibited by Rand's PAID employees. You can draw your own conclusions about what that means...

My conclusion?? He's TOO quick to use power. Same thing with Miller. I don't want those kinds of people to be in a position to use ANY power. They're DANGEROUS! Yes, I think the people they hire DO exactly what they're HIRED to do.

But, no. I don't throw the H word around. It would diminish the lives of 6,000,000 of my lanzmen.

excon

tomder55
Oct 29, 2010, 07:37 AM
These Soros paid Republicorp people are agent provocateurs instructed in the art of the street theater of the absurd .
MoveOn.org Political Action: Democracy in Action (http://www.moveon.org/team/campaigns/republicorp/#two)


In Arizona there is a video of one of them choking a conservative supporter at a rally . It's funny how slow this video is on it's path to the dinosaur enemedia . But you can find it on various conservative web sites including
MoveOn 'Republicorp' Activist Chokes Conservative Protester at Arizona Rally | The Blaze (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/moveon-republicorp-activist-chokes-conservative-protester-at-arizona-rally/)

excon
Oct 29, 2010, 08:05 AM
These Soros paid Republicorp people are agent provocateurs instructed in the art of the street theater of the absurd Hello again, tom:

Those Foxnews and D*ck Armey supported Tea Party provocateurs that disrupted the town hall meetings early in this administration, were pretty absurd too.

We ALL have our way of making a point... Yawn...

excon

tomder55
Oct 29, 2010, 08:33 AM
So you would agree then that if Arizonans don't throw Democrat Gabrielle Gifford under the bus, they SUPPORT the despicable behavior exhibited by the paid agent of Republicorp working on her behalf at the Arizona rally ?

speechlesstx
Oct 29, 2010, 08:34 AM
I didn't use those words. In fact, nobody did.

I've been reading them all week, stirred up by columns like this one by Amanda Terkel (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/28/rise-far-right-violence-elections_n_775326.html).

Some of the comments:


nypapajoe 16 hours ago (6:54 PM)

Republicorps has their sights on developing a Fascist government!


MimiGardner 3 hours ago (8:13 AM)

Between Angle, Miller and Rand, it's sounding like Germany in 1933.


shoegazing 2 hours ago (9:46 AM)

I think the poster is more concerned with the general fate of USA than winning a freaking midterm election. IF today's America resembles Germany in 1933, who says she won't degenerate into 1939's Germany?


MichaelMcKLA 7 hours ago (4:45 AM)

Here come the stormtroopers. You teagaggers stocking up on jackboots?


Bob Lachman 10 hours ago (1:38 AM)

This Is America Today.
It's facism pure and simple. These "Tea Party" candidates are behaving like the brownshirts did in Germany when Hitler came to power.


Kealadi 14 hours ago (9:46 PM)

It is time to read the message the stomping incident is saying: "Profitt over People." Anybody else put two and two together? If incidents like these don't get demands for human justice then this country is set to go the way of 30's Germany.

They're all over the liberal blogs this week. They seriously need some therapy or some xanax at the least.

tomder55
Oct 29, 2010, 08:53 AM
It's been one of the themes over at Chris Matthew's 'soft ball' MSNBC show this week . I've heard him say it at least twice.

excon
Oct 29, 2010, 08:56 AM
So you would agree then that if Arizonans don't throw Democrat Gabrielle Gifford under the bus, they SUPPORT the despicable behavior exhibited by the paid agent of Republicorp working on her behalf at the Arizona rally ?Hello tom:

No. Not at all.

If the situation were the SAME, I would. But, they're not. They're not even close. Being paid by some OTHER organization to work "on her behalf" is substantially DIFFERENT than being a PAID Rand Paul worker. That means somebody from the CAMPAIGN, that Rand Paul is in charge of, HIRED this schmuck... Looks to me, like Rand Paul is accountable for that.

However, Gabrielle Gifford didn't hire this guy. She has NOTHING to do with him except that he, or the organization he WORKS FOR, supports her. She's not accountable for that. Certainly, moveon.org should fire the guy. But, to throw her under the bus because of what moveon.org did, is bizarre.

excon

excon
Oct 29, 2010, 09:31 AM
I've been reading them all week, Hello again, Steve:

I'm sorry. I meant HERE. Since you inferred about it being said, I thought you meant HERE. I don't read the entire web, and I can't be responsible for what they say anyway.

To think I should be is loony. I stand by what I say, and what I say only.

excon

speechlesstx
Oct 29, 2010, 09:54 AM
Hello again, Steve:

I'm sorry. I meant HERE. Since you inferred about it being said, I thought you meant HERE. I don't read the entire web, and I can't be responsible for what they say anyway.

To think I should be is loony. I stand by what I say, and what I say only

And we speak of current events outside of AMHD and not sourced only from Fox News. This is something you should be aware of because it's darned ugly out there in the leftosphere. But hey, I'll be the first to donate toward a mass distribution of Xanax to liberals... they're going to need it even more Wednesday.

excon
Oct 29, 2010, 10:03 AM
they're going to need it even more Wednesday.Hello again, Steve:

It IS more fun to be in the opposition, so I'm looking forward to it.

Chris Wallace of Fox News, asks over and over again, of his favorite Republicans, "where are you gonna cut?"... No answers ever come... When that reality plays out, the Republicans are going to be thrown out again.

excon

speechlesstx
Nov 9, 2010, 10:37 AM
After weeks of liberal outrage and fear mongering over Tea Party violence, 2nd amendment solutions and the revival of 1938 Germany here in America, the left is getting in on the act.

Dylan Ratigan at MSNBC, the network that wondered if Sharron Angle's rhetoric had gotten too extreme, was entertaining the idea of armed revolution (http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/09/msnbcs-dylan-ratigan-ted-rall-call-for-violent-revolution/)with Ted Rall.

"The people have an obligation to revolt when their government fails," said Rall. Unless of course you're a Tea Party.

I'm curious how many of those formerly decrying 2nd amendment solutions are going to join Rall's crusade.

NeedKarma
Nov 9, 2010, 10:40 AM
Who cares about a political cartoonist? He shouldn't have been on the air for that rhetoric. Same rules for both sides.

speechlesstx
Nov 9, 2010, 11:13 AM
This is not just any cartoonist, and it doesn't bother you that an MSNBC host seems interested in armed revolution?

smoothy
Nov 9, 2010, 11:46 AM
Who cares about a political cartoonist? He shouldn't have been on the air for that rhetoric. Same rules for both sides.

If that's the case... half of the lefty main stream media should be fired.

NeedKarma
Nov 9, 2010, 12:00 PM
If thats the case....half of the lefty main stream media should be fired.
Ok, as long as half as the righty media is as well. That's basically my point.

smoothy
Nov 9, 2010, 12:17 PM
Ok, as long as half as the righty media is as well. That's basically my point.

The right doesn't HAVE control over anywhere nrear half the media... and newspapers. And that's the problem. The left has control of a lions share.

Look at how they portrayed Female republicans... Look at Dan Rather. Even after the fabricated "evidence" was shown for what it was he still would not admit what his agenda really was.

Yeah he got "fired" to look like they did something but he is STILL on the air... and Katie Curic is still on the air after the hack job she did.

That list is really pretty long... A lib says something and they are happy with a few days paid suspension... let a Consrvative do it and they want them off the air forever.

Maybe they were a victim of alien abductions and they got an anal probe once too often or something...

NeedKarma
Nov 9, 2010, 12:24 PM
You do love the anal talk. LOL!

smoothy
Nov 9, 2010, 12:26 PM
You do love the anal talk. LOL!

THat South Park episode is a classic... what can I say. I laugh so hard when I see that one I can hardly breath.